Hi,
thanks for all the comments. I will do tests with gcc-4.x and, if the
regression is still there, file a bug report upstream.
Heiko
On Saturday 10 December 2005 20:03, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
> Heiko Müller wrote:
> > Dear Thiemo,
> > we very much appreciate your work on the gcc-2.95 debian packa
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Christian Perrier wrote:
> > (hey, this is why "desktop" installs the whole bloat of KDE *AND* Gnome ).
>
> It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might
> have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a
> kind
Hi all,
I'm new to the group and am seeking your advice on my Debian Linux C++
programming problem with named pipes.
Two programs are involved. One is myProgram.cc, which reads user's
input from keyboard and prints to the screen. The other program
is main.cc, which wants to communicate with myPro
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This mail is a reminder for the next D-I team monthly meeting which is
scheduled for tomorrow Wednesday Dec. 14th 21:00UTC.
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Joey Hess wrote:
> Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > Or at least fall back to the other IPs if the first one gives an
> > > error?
> > I hope that this already happens...
>
> apt doesn't know anything about round robin dns, and especially with
> secure apt, if one mirror gets out of s
[Peter Samuelson]
> Hm. That brings up the minor point of whether N should ever be
> anything but (2 * nest_level).
Or if you consider nest_level to be zero-based, (2 + 2 * nest_level).
It occurs to me, though, that some might prefer the raw presentation
look of (2 + 3 * nest_level). I migh
[Daniel Burrows]
> (1) The first line begins with N >= 2 spaces,
> (3) Each subsequent line begins with at least N + 2 spaces.
Hm. That brings up the minor point of whether N should ever be
anything but (2 * nest_level).
I don't feel strongly about that one, though.
Also, in the Best P
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>> Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > The attached text is a first draft of a proposed exten
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> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > Extensions to the syntax of Description blocks:
> >
> > As mentioned above, all lines beginning with two or more spaces are
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> > The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
> > Description field to explicit
Hello,Since, I am not 'valid' poster of this list, my mail me
be blocked by listadmin! I asked DWN to report for foss.in/2005
conference in India and Debian activity during event. Joey can answer
about this post. Thanks Joey to encourage me.
Background:
foss.in/2005 was earlier known as Linux Ba
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 05:49:02PM -0600, Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
was heard to say:
>
> [Daniel Burrows]
> > (1) The first line begins with N > 2 spaces,
>
> Don't you mean N >= 2?
>
> > (2) The first non-space character of the first line is a bullet
> > character, and
> >
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
> Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
> syntax allows list items to be treated specially by frontends (for
> instance, bullet charac
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 06:38:59PM -0500, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
> > Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The exte
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Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
> Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists.
That's quite a complex document for something I believe should be
quite simple.
[Daniel Burrows]
> (1) The first line begins with N > 2 spaces,
Don't you mean N >= 2?
> (2) The first non-space character of the first line is a bullet
> character, and
>
> (3) Each subsequent line begins with at least N + 1 + M spaces,
> where M is the number of spaces immed
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 03:09:52PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
> Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
wow! that's quite a document. i'm glad to see that people are
focusing on the Really Big pro
The attached text is a first draft of a proposed extension to the
Description field to explicitly handle bulleted lists. The extended
syntax allows list items to be treated specially by frontends (for
instance, bullet characters can be replaced with graphics, and the
body of the list item can be
#include
* Joey Hess [Mon, Dec 12 2005, 03:53:02PM]:
> This kind of disconnect between what an installed Debian system actually
> does, what some developers think it does, and results like Debian
> developers passing out Ubuntu CDs instead of contributing more fixes to
> Debian is intensely frust
David Nusinow wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:37:31PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote:
>
>>David Moreno Garza wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What are you talking about Debian Style?
>>
>>Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
>>All those little things that would make a user say
Em Seg, 2005-12-12 às 23:37 +0200, Linas Zvirblis escreveu:
> David Moreno Garza wrote:
>
> > What are you talking about Debian Style?
>
> Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
> All those little things that would make a user say "Yep, that's Debian".
The desk
Nathanael Nerode wrote:
> This is an omnibus reply. Sorry about the thread-breaking, but I'm on
> yet *another* computer, and I can't seem to find a mailer which
> respects the In-Reply-To headers from the web pages or lets me add my
> own.
Off-topic, but Moz Thunderbird in Debian at least does t
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 11:37:31PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote:
> David Moreno Garza wrote:
>
> >What are you talking about Debian Style?
>
> Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
> All those little things that would make a user say "Yep, that's Debian".
Check
David Moreno Garza wrote:
What are you talking about Debian Style?
Color scheme, artwork (default wallpaper, login screen, even CD covers).
All those little things that would make a user say "Yep, that's Debian".
A user should get the same visual feeling whether he chose GNOME or KDE
for h
On Monday 12 December 2005 21:25, Joey Hess wrote:
> It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might
> have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a
> kind of experiment just to see how long it takes for someone to notice
> and what traspires if they do
On 20:25 Mon 12 Dec 2005, Simon Richter wrote:
> This is also related to the clash of the two approaches ("multiuser
> system with capable admin" versus "single-user personal system where all
> users need admin priviledge to associate to new APs as they roam with
> their laptop"). What we need i
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Or at least fall back to the other IPs if the first one gives an
> > error?
> I hope that this already happens...
apt doesn't know anything about round robin dns, and especially with
secure apt, if one mirror gets out of sync things break horribly. This
recently happened wi
On 21:01 Mon 12 Dec 2005, Linas Zvirblis wrote:
> Replying to Christian Perrier.
>
> I see what you mean. But who is going to create The Debian Style? Maybe
> a contest is needed?
What are you talking about Debian Style?
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Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> was heard to say:
> > >-default sound setup
> >
> > Sound is symptomatic of a much larger class of problems, namely that
> > there is no system service that forwards resources other than display
On 15:03 Sun 11 Dec 2005, George Wright wrote:
> * on Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 12:21:28PM +1000, Bradley Marshall wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure if this is the right process to follow, so please
> > let me know if there's something else I should be doing.
>
> ditto for me - shall I fill in an ITA? I'm not
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:25:49PM +0100, Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> >-default sound setup
>
> Sound is symptomatic of a much larger class of problems, namely that
> there is no system service that forwards resources other than display
> and keyboard to the user curre
Christian Perrier wrote:
> (hey, this is why "desktop" installs the whole bloat of KDE *AND* Gnome ).
It's possible that this statement is false, and that some change might
have been made in this area under less than clear circumstances as a
kind of experiment just to see how long it takes for so
Dear fellow developers and contributors,
This is a reminder that the bug squashing period I announced on
24 Nov 2005 is ending this coming Wednesday, 11:59 CET.
For more information, please see
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg00019.html
Kind regards,
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Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Right, well, as noted, it's generally a fairly low priority to get
> packages added to P-a-s -- even though it's an eventual goal, the waste
> just really isn't so much (in the usual case) to warrant a rush job. So
> from that standpoint, as long as th
Hi,
Christian Perrier wrote:
From the D-I team point of view: there are certainly tons of things to
improve in our default installs, especially when we exit the real
domain of D-I and enter the domain of general setup of a default
system.
The point is that this is not the a task for d-i. If a
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 10:46:10AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Even if the current software isn't publically available for whatever
> reason (personally, I'm putting my money on "hacked into place over time
> and not particularly easy to massage into a form someone else could run,"
That's one pa
Replying to Christian Perrier.
I see what you mean. But who is going to create The Debian Style? Maybe
a contest is needed?
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Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ok, lets take an example: Where is the source thrown at you for
> www.debian.org?
> It isn't. You have to ask around, get to know or dig deep along the
> links to find cvs.debian.org.
Funny, I just did a Google search for
site:www.debian.or
Quoting Linas Zvirblis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than
> >doing it a different way!
>
> But doesn't Ubuntu use Debian installer?
Yes, but they don't use tasksel...which is the one installing a
"desktop" task.
>From the D-I team point of
Hi,
Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
But what would you gain from that? In my experience, the mirrors are
fast enough to saturate anything but the fastest (100Mb) links.
I think the idea is
a) load-balancing over multiple DSL lines
b) checking a bunch of apt-proxy servers whether they can provide the
Hi Ivan!
You wrote:
>
> As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_
> files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
> 'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5
> different servers, with one connection to each se
Ivan Adams wrote:
My goal is using more bandwidth with apt-proxy servers on my friends, who
have other internet connection.
And I want to download first packet from my internet and second packet at
the same time from the apt-proxy with my friend internet connection.
Now, I can only download all
My goal is using more bandwidth with apt-proxy servers on my friends, who have other internet connection.And I want to download first packet from my internet and second packet at the same time from the apt-proxy with my friend internet connection.
Now, I can only download all packets from my intern
On 12/12/05, Ivan Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_
> > files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
> > 'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5
> > different servers, with one
As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5different servers, with one connection to each server active at atime.That is what I mean ...
Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than
doing it a different way!
But doesn't Ubuntu use Debian installer?
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also sprach Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.12.12.1405 +0100]:
> I don't understand why for Etch, if a user chooses "Desktop" during
> tasksel, they shouldn't get the just works[tm] experience.
Yeah, and let's draw from the work by the Ubuntu guys, rather than
doing it a different way!
>
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Henning Makholm wrote:
> As far as I read the proposal, it is about downloading _different_
> files from different mirrors - if you have 25 packages to get for your
> 'apt-get update' operation, download 5 packages from each of 5
> different servers, with one connection to each
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: netgen
Version : 4.4
Upstream Author : Joachim Schoeberl
* URL : http://www.hpfem.jku.at/netgen/ngs44.tar.gz
* License : LGPL
Description : automatic 3d tetrahedral
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:52:09PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > True, but that's not what's being asked here. If multiple URLs could
> > serve requests for a single repository---i.e., if you've got both
> > deb http://ftp1.CC.debian.org/debia
Hi,
I intend to request the removal of the gtksee package from
the archive. So let me explain why.
I adopted the package in July 2004 and had a pretty active
assosiation with the upstream author.
During the time upstream authors absence became more and
more frequent and after some time he maile
Scripsit Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 1. We care about a large lot of people a lot more than we care for an
>individual's downloading speed
> 2. Thus we try to keep the mirror load down, and downloading hundreds of
>megabytes using multiple connections to multiple sou
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > use more than a single server by itself... I didn't think it common
> > > practice
> > > for large mirror to configure multi-megabyte windows...
> > TCP/IP windows? Or user bw shapin
On Dec 12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > use more than a single server by itself... I didn't think it common practice
> > for large mirror to configure multi-megabyte windows...
> TCP/IP windows? Or user bw shaping?
He means the TCP window size, and it *is* common pra
On Dec 12, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why not open 3 connections one to each host?
Why do?
> Or at least fall back to the other IPs if the first one gives an
> error?
I hope that this already happens...
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On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 08:52:04AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 06:53:47AM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote:
> >> Again: what can I do with such a list? See the list below.
> > Changes to the P-a-s list should be sent to the contac
(Dropping Josh and moving to -devel, as this is discussion is going
elsewhere)
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 01:59:05PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> However, some users just want a computer that works (the "plain
> users"). They don't want to have to learn too much about Linux or
> Debian, they just
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote:
> 2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE
> > servers...
>
> That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple servers
> all the time. To fe
Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> We don't want them to open multiple connections even to
> MULTIPLE servers...
>
>
> That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple servers all
>
Can have option in /etc/apt/apt.conf or apt-get (install || upgrade) with -? some char here for parallelism.And by default can be disabled ...
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:45:50AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On Dec 11, Charles Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > But if multiple URLs could satisfactorily serve requests for a single
>> > repository, only one of them is currently used.
>> Wh
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:22:37PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Heiko M?ller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > We found that gcc-2.95 -Os produces object code of acceptable quality
>> > within reasonable compilation times. gcc >=3 is less e
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> That's still a bit of time wasted, but it's not really bad. The really
> problematic version is when a package is downloaded, build-deps are
> installed, and /then/ sbuild figures out that some version isn't recent
> enough.
According to the intersection of the debcheck bui
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> That's still a bit of time wasted, but it's not really bad. The really
> problematic version is when a package is downloaded, build-deps are
> installed, and /then/ sbuild figures out that some version isn't recent
> enough.
According to the intersection of the debcheck bui
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 06:50:26PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> And when you try you get screamed at and flamed as witnessed in the
>> huge buildd flame fest the last time. Iirc some 3000 packages were
>> build outside the official buildd netwo
Thiemo Seufer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> [snip]
>> A similar issue I noted in the past is the big number of build failures
>> that don't get tagged 'Failed'. I tried working on classifying them, but
>> got bored so increadibly fast that I gave up, and decided for
Anthony Towns writes:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:40:11PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> Anthony Towns writes:
>> > Requeue requests are part of handling logs... You get a failed log, you
>> > analyse it to say "oh, that's a transient error due to other things"
>> > then you requeue it...
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> C'mon, this is a free software project. The obvious first step for
>>> providing better infrastructure would be to make that infrastructure
>>> publically
Anthony Towns writes:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:24:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> That sort of information is helpful to tell you when there is a problem,
> but that's only the first step. ATM, the corresponding thing would
> be to (gosh!) setup a webpage tracking whatever issue you
Anthony Towns writes:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 11:52:22AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
>> It got proposed because no one was able to give correct explanations
>> about why it hadn't been included.
>
> Heh. I'm almost morbidly curious enough to ask what you think the
> "correct" explanation of
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
why i'm still seeing lots of archived bugs in my packages? hmm..
also the http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ form does not work correctly.
I guess it is because bug #339141 is just open. It seems that nobody
really cares since 27 days.
Kind regards
2005/12/12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE servers...
That's odd though, because apt *does* open connections to multiple
servers all the time. To fetch packages lists, or if a package is only
available on one of the
hi,
why i'm still seeing lots of archived bugs in my packages? hmm..
also the http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ form does not work correctly.
please, what am i doing wrong?
i'm accessing the logs with the following url:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=curl
thank you
domenico
-
On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 08:52 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> So I followed the instructions at the top of that file and requested a
> P-a-s entry, after asking people here what to do. No response. Hm. I
> wasn't sure what to make of that -- maybe this request is too trivial to
> bother with, it's fi
Thanks ...We don't want them to open multiple connections even to MULTIPLE servers...
Steve M. Robbins writes:
> Howdy,
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 02:18:29AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>
> > We will get rid of g++-3.3 for the etch release and remove the
> > g++-3.3 package.
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 12:54:22AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
>
> > We would like to get rid of g
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