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The minutes of the now monthly D-I (Debian Installer) team IRC meeting
are now available from the Debian Installer Meetings wiki page:
http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianInstallerMeetings
Minutes:
http://people.debian.org/~bubulle/d-i/irc-meeting-20050917/minutes
Log:
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On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:10:00AM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry for being concerned with usability issues (hence average joe) while
> dealing with the way debian works. I guess that only ubuntu-devel was
> interested by this message then.
I'm not saying that.
What I'm saying is th
Hello,
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 07:43:43PM -0400, Faré wrote:
> Dear Debian developers,
>
> here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy:
>
> PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/
> PROPOSAL 2: ~/.etc/${package_name}/
> PROPOSAL 3: ~/.run/ ~/.lib/ ~/.share, etc.
>
>
I like yo
On Saturday 17 September 2005 12:46, Andreas Fester wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what exactly are you trying to do? Note that the AVR tools are also
> in the debian archive, so unless you want to modify the sources
> a simple "aptitude install simulavr" should be sufficient.
>
> Otherwise, you should have a lo
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> The new hotplug subsystem cannot handle blacklisting anymore, and now
> delegates it to modprobe.
> modprobe uses a different syntax, so the old /etc/hotplug/blacklist*
> files are not supported anymore.
What about user-installed blacklists? Will the new
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:52:09PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote:
> Here's the code, hardcoded paths and all:
> http://return.false.org/~drow/fuse/shadow-etc.c
Slightly better, but not much:
http://return.false.org/~drow/fuse/
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Sami Dalouche wrote:
> Let's take, for example, Skype's example. It is not available in
> non-free/universe, but some people may still be interested in downloading it,
Once debian-unoffical.org supports Ubuntu, just get users to put
debian-unofficial.org in their /etc/apt/sources.list. They claim
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 06:29:12AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote:
>
> [Ernestas V.]
> > Perhaps hard/symlinking original /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow and
> > /etc/group to chrooted environments would help?
>
> Symlinks won't work. Think about what a chroot environment *is*.
>
> Hardlinks will only w
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 18:24 -0400, Andres Salomon wrote:
> * libxml-ruby - Ruby interface to libxml
> * libxslt-ruby - Ruby interface to libxslt
These may be maintained by the pkg-ruby-extras team.
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Sami Dalouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
OK, may be an overkill.
But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which
is not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download
several .debs in order to install a single software ?
Skype should se
Sami Dalouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OK, may be an overkill.
> But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which
> is not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download
> several .debs in order to install a single software ?
Skype should set up their ow
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 19:07 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:21:21PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Faré wrote:
> > > PROPOSAL 3: ~/.run/ ~/.lib/ ~/.share, etc.
> > > Programs that insist to install stuff in the user's directory (such as
> > > openoffice, gimp, etc.), or tha
Hi,
Sorry for being concerned with usability issues (hence average joe) while
dealing with the way debian works. I guess that only ubuntu-devel was
interested by this message then.
I am not claiming that synaptic is hard to use, (it can even be easier in some
use cases), I am just claiming that a
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 08:21:21PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Faré wrote:
> > PROPOSAL 3: ~/.run/ ~/.lib/ ~/.share, etc.
> > Programs that insist to install stuff in the user's directory (such as
> > openoffice, gimp, etc.), or that have runtime files (such as emacs'
> > .saves-*) should put this
Faré wrote:
> PROPOSAL 3: ~/.run/ ~/.lib/ ~/.share, etc.
> Programs that insist to install stuff in the user's directory (such as
> openoffice, gimp, etc.), or that have runtime files (such as emacs'
> .saves-*) should put this stuff in a proper hierarchy that mirrors the
> categories of the FHS, o
1/ Who are we?
The Debonaras project (http://www.debonaras.org) is a group of Linux
developers who have created the beginnings of a big-endian ARM (armeb)
port of Debian. We have built 2500+ stable packages so far (see
http://ftp.debonaras.org).
Debonaras is targeted primarily at consumer devi
On Sunday 18 September 2005 17:43, Faré wrote:
> Dear Debian developers,
>
> here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy:
>
> PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/
> All packages that keep a per-user directories caches of data that need
> not be archived/backed up should put it i
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Martin Ferrari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: webxml
Version : 1.12-1
Upstream Author : Boulgakov Andrei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://webxml.sourceforge.net/
* License : GPL
Description : Simple form-base
Dear Debian developers,
here is a proposal I submit for inclusion in the debian policy:
PROPOSAL 1: ~/.cache/${package_name}/
All packages that keep a per-user directories caches of data that need
not be archived/backed up should put it in ~/.cache/${package_name}/
instead of wherever they put it
Thanks for the feedback, the improved script, etc.
I will fill the bug report.
Davi
Darren Salt wrote:
> I demand that Davi Leal may or may not have written...
>
> > I am missing the "js.msg" and "jsopcode.tbl" files in the
> > "libdevel/libsmjs-dev" development library package.
> >
> > The fil
Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have more than a few packages that I've been looking to get rid of for
> some time. No one's taken them, so I'm going to request the ftp masters
> drop some of them if no one takes them within the few weeks.
This is not the correct way to orphan a
Hi,
I have more than a few packages that I've been looking to get rid of for
some time. No one's taken them, so I'm going to request the ftp masters
drop some of them if no one takes them within the few weeks. These
packages are:
* messagewall - An SMTP proxy daemon, designed to help keep out u
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is as wrong as doign that for kernel drivers? What driver packages
do that? Look like I need to file some bugs..
Um, I don't recall. But IIRC we did in the past recommend people who
needed private kernel headers not included in the kernel
(Side note: What's this obsession with Joe User everyone has? If there's
something _you_ have a problem with when using Debian, shoot. Otherwise,
synaptic is very easy to use -- even to Joe User).
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:22:30PM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote:
> OK, may be an overkill.
> But what h
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 22:47 +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote:
> - Joe downloads a .mdeb (meta-deb) package on skype's website.
It would be easier to download deb, double-click it. App starts, makes a
copy of deb/moves deb to /var/lib/my-apt-repo, creates Packages.gz,
apt-get update, apt-get install pro
OK, may be an overkill.
But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which is not
available from debian's repository ?The user has to download several .debs in
order to install a single software ?
Sami Dalouche
Quoting Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Le dimanche 18 s
IMHO, the 'right' solution to do this is to have some file whcih describes
a normal apt archive and the package in it to install, and double clicking
it adds it to your apt sources, updates, and installs the package using apt,
then upgrades will be handled normally with update-notifier et al.
IIRC
Well, this "right" solution has 2 main problems :
- It needs some package to be installed on the box. This is workable, but
ubuntu/debian/others have to agree and install the necessary software to handle
this by default, otherwise it becomes useless.
- It doesn't handle offline installations.. Not
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Moratti Claudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: kleansweep
Version : 0.1.6
Upstream Author : Pawel Stolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://linux.bydg.org/~yogin/
* License : GPL
Description : Tool to reclaim
Le dimanche 18 septembre 2005 à 22:47 +0200, Sami Dalouche a écrit :
> Let's take, for example, Skype's example. It is not available in
> non-free/universe , but some people may still be interested in downloading it,
> be they linux experts or not. So what happens on a
> Debian/Ubuntu/MEPIS/whatev
Hi,
I'm crossposting between debian-devel and ubuntu-devel, but maybe some other
debian-based distributions may be interested as well. Feel free to forward..
This email is about sharing some thoughts about installing third party packages
inside on a debian box..
Let's take, for example, Skype's
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 04:20:32AM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > Your observation is somewhat correct. I think user oriented
> > distribution manual is collection of documents now. See list on
> > http://www.debian.org/doc .
>
> I am well aware of that URL, and it's not ideal. Lots of things
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Samuel Mimram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: cairo-ocaml
Version : CVS
Upstream Author : Olivier Andrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cairographics.org/cairo_2docaml
* License : LGPL
Description : OCaml b
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: David Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: newton
Version : 0.0.9
Upstream Author : Dennis Craven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://newton.sourceforge.net
* License : GPL
Description : A desktop wiki applet f
Le dimanche 18 septembre 2005 à 02:22 +0300, Guillem Jover a écrit :
> > In this case, it is enough to do something like:
> > Build-Depends: type-handling, libasound2-dev | not+linux-gnu
>
> No, that's too late, the Build-Depends are analyzed before installing
> them. You'd need some kind of ugly
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Murillo Fernandes Bernardes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: hdaps-utils
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Yoni Rom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Robert Love <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://143.106.24.56/~bernarde/hdaps/debian/
* Licen
Hi!
When I started with Debian, I packaged several libraries which I am
upstream for. Since I don't actively develop these libraries
anymore[0], and they don't get much usage according to popcon, I'm
considering filing removal requests against ftp.d.o against them. The
libraries are:
* gql -- A C
I demand that Davi Leal may or may not have written...
> I am missing the "js.msg" and "jsopcode.tbl" files in the
> "libdevel/libsmjs-dev" development library package.
> The files are in the mozilla-thunderbird-dev and mozilla-dev packages, but
> not in the libsmjs-dev.
[snip]
> I have workarou
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 04:02:56PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Tomas Fasth wrote:
>
> >Well, I can and already do. But it doesn't make a difference because
> >pathan has been programmed to depend on the xerces source, not the
> >exported library interface. For example, thi
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:34:30PM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote:
> Berkeley DB XML sources provided by Sleepycat Software. The pathan
> build script require a path to the xerces source code tree. I have
AOL on all the comments about how bad is to have this kind of
dependencies.
Still, if you fail con
Hi,
Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (a.k.a. sarge)
I am missing the "js.msg" and "jsopcode.tbl" files in the
"libdevel/libsmjs-dev" development library package.
The files are in the mozilla-thunderbird-dev and mozilla-dev packages, but not
in the libsmjs-dev.
mail/mozilla-thunderbird-dev
usr/include
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 01:26:36PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le samedi 17 septembre 2005 à 06:36 -0500, Bill Allombert a écrit :
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:34:30PM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote:
> > > Pathan is a library that implements XPath functionality in c++. It
> > > is available both a
Michael Vogt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> We believe that the code is now "good" enough for wider testing. I
> have setup a repository for the patched version of apt with the pdiff
> support. Just add this line to your sources.list file:
> "deb http://people.debian.org/~mvo/apt/pdiffs/ /"
[.
Le samedi 17 septembre 2005 à 06:36 -0500, Bill Allombert a écrit :
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:34:30PM +0200, Tomas Fasth wrote:
> > Pathan is a library that implements XPath functionality in c++. It
> > is available both as a separate tarball as well as bundled with the
> > Berkeley DB XML sourc
Hi,
Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (a.k.a. sarge)
There is not development libraries available for the 2.2.23 OpenLDAP version.
I have read OpenLDAP must be used with care due to bugs. I am going to
develop an application using the C language. What libldap-dev and slapd
version do you advise me to use?.
The new hotplug subsystem cannot handle blacklisting anymore, and now
delegates it to modprobe.
modprobe uses a different syntax, so the old /etc/hotplug/blacklist*
files are not supported anymore.
Considering that the other distributions have no plans to keep
supporting hotplug-style blacklisting
On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 04:20:32AM +0100, Antony Gelberg wrote:
>
> There's rather a lot there.
Nay, that a tiny fraction of things which needs to be consideded. This
is one of the key reason behind why few bothered to contribute. So
changing this situation from bottom by offering better infr
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