Re: your mail

2005-09-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:13:22AM +0200, Talal Al-Azem wrote: > Hello. I have recently installed emacs-bidi on suse 9.1, kde 3.2.3. Then you're on the wrong list. This is a list about Debian Development, not about SuSE user support. For the latter, please go to http://portal.suse.com/ -- The a

Re: Is gcc-3.4 in the unstable chroot on crest.debian.org OK?

2005-09-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:20:30PM -0700, Rob Browning wrote: > If I compile a trivial foo.c in the unstable chroot with gcc-3.4, and > then immediately try to run it, it segfaults. You've hit #327780. m68k-build: could anyone with root on crest please downgrade binutils in all chroots to a worki

Re: Reviving the Debian FAQ

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:13:23AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I object to the notion that > > | Testing is intended for Debian developers. If you are not a Debian > > | developer, then install unstable as opposed to testing. > > which rather permea

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 12:03 +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: > > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam > > Before you do that: Yeah, I know there are packages that should not be closed, probably, and they could just hide from the view and be closed. What I really trust is

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 07:50 +0200, Martin Samuelsson wrote: > Wouldn't it make more sense to close bugs that hasn't recieved more info > in X days than bugs that had their initial post in Y days? > > Some packages are trickier than others to create and may therefor take > more time. As long as peo

Re: Reviving the Debian FAQ

2005-09-14 Thread Miles Bader
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I object to the notion that > > | Testing is intended for Debian developers. If you are not a Debian > | developer, then install unstable as opposed to testing. > > which rather permeates the document. Yeah I agree, that's pretty wacky notion. Regardl

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Vedran Furac wrote: > Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in > debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/ffmpeg.html? Only ffmpeg-dev is in Debian as ffmpeg upstream recommends static linking due to not having fixed the API/AB

Re: KDE ABI transition woes: linking both old and new libstdc++ ?'

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 21:04:36 +0200, Adeodato Simó uttered > There's known trouble with this check linda producing false positives. > Just upload if no binary of yours DT_NEEDs libstdc++5. > Is there really? This is the first I've heard of it, keeping in mind I'm ignoring #179926. Please file

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2005-09-14 Thread Talal Al-Azem
Hello. I have recently installed emacs-bidi on suse 9.1, kde 3.2.3. I have it running, but when I try to type in Arabic script in the right-to-left, it doesn’t appear correctly…i.e. don’t see anything on the screen, but I see the cursor moving. Any ideas? Thanks, and sorry for what must be such

Re: Apps linked with old libstdc++ dlopening modules linked with the new one

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 03:39:35PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:47:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > [...really interesting and insightful explanation snipped...] > > So: g++ is embedding an unversioned weak symbol in the library in some > > cases, which causes the lin

Is gcc-3.4 in the unstable chroot on crest.debian.org OK?

2005-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
If I compile a trivial foo.c in the unstable chroot with gcc-3.4, and then immediately try to run it, it segfaults. If I then exit the chroot and re-enter, it runs fine. (base)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mkdir test (base)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dchroot unstable Executing shell in chroot: /org/chroo

Managing users and groups within multiple devel chroots.

2005-09-14 Thread Rob Browning
Is it possible to configure a set of chroots (woody, sarge, whatever) so that all of the chroot passwd/group DBs will stay in sync with each other and with the host DB automaticall, so that, for example, a useradd, usermod, or userdel, will automatically affect all of the DBs simultaneously and sa

Re: KDE ABI transition woes: linking both old and new libstdc++ ?'

2005-09-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, José Luis Tallón wrote: > Well... this binaries *are* linked against both libstdc++5 *and* > libstdc++6 ... Probably something you are linking to still needs to undergo the C++ transition. Depending on what it is, just NMU its ass off... -- "One disk to rule them all, One

Re: KDE ABI transition woes: linking both old and new libstdc++ ?'

2005-09-14 Thread José Luis Tallón
Adeodato Simó wrote: >* José Luis Tallón [Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:58:47 +0200]: > >Hi, > > (Was the direct mail necessary?) > > > >>Any advice on how to proceed with this?? I have already succesfully >>uploaded *one* package, but Linda complained loudly on the rest... >>some library not already tra

Re: Apps linked with old libstdc++ dlopening modules linked with the new one

2005-09-14 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:47:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > so, the problem is caused by template instantiation shoving > this symbol into the library that uses it > the two possible solutions are (a) stop doing that, or (b) > version the symbol > so that's a g++ bu

Re: KDE ABI transition woes: linking both old and new libstdc++ ?'

2005-09-14 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello *, On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:58:47PM +0200, José Luis Tallón wrote: > I am rebuilding my KDE packages for upload, so as to fulfil the > requirements of the C++ ABI transition in Sid, and i am encountering a > serious(IMVHO) problem: binaries get linked to *both* libstdc++5 (old > versio

Re: KDE ABI transition woes: linking both old and new libstdc++ ?'

2005-09-14 Thread Adeodato Simó
* José Luis Tallón [Wed, 14 Sep 2005 20:58:47 +0200]: Hi, (Was the direct mail necessary?) > Any advice on how to proceed with this?? I have already succesfully > uploaded *one* package, but Linda complained loudly on the rest... > some library not already transitioned??? There's known trou

KDE ABI transition woes: linking both old and new libstdc++ ?'

2005-09-14 Thread José Luis Tallón
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! I am rebuilding my KDE packages for upload, so as to fulfil the requirements of the C++ ABI transition in Sid, and i am encountering a serious(IMVHO) problem: binaries get linked to *both* libstdc++5 (old version) and libstdc++6 (new version,

Re: SSL Root Ceritficate

2005-09-14 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 08:43:19PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > as nm.debian.org is now using https i would like to know, where i could > find the public part of the SSL root certificate of spi-inc.org > online. http://www.spi-inc.org/secretary/ -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

SSL Root Ceritficate

2005-09-14 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, as nm.debian.org is now using https i would like to know, where i could find the public part of the SSL root certificate of spi-inc.org online. Greetings Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HDAPS Package, Someone In?

2005-09-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > I'm interested in maintaining (and using) your drivers and utilities. If you ever need a co-maintainer, just drop me a note. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the

Re: HDAPS Package, Someone In?

2005-09-14 Thread Luigi Gangitano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alejandro, Il giorno 14/set/05, alle ore 18:21, Alejandro Bonilla ha scritto: Can someone help me with making a deb package for the hdaps-utils? (hdaps.sf.net) Download section / then click on IBM HDAPS Source Download. We are on the process

HDAPS Package, Someone In?

2005-09-14 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
Hi, I "manage" the HDAPS driver for the IBM ThinkPad's with the Active Protection system. Now that our driver is in mainline -git (Thanks to Robert Love), we might want to consider people to start making packages for our utils. Basically I have seen the whole semi-god process that

Re: Apps linked with old libstdc++ dlopening modules linked with the new one

2005-09-14 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 04:47:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: [...really interesting and insightful explanation snipped...] > So: g++ is embedding an unversioned weak symbol in the library in some > cases, which causes the linker to resolve it to the version from the lib > used by the app, not

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Marillat
Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christian Marillat wrote: >> Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] >> Package already in Debian : gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg > > Ops, then it should be closed. > > Btw. why then mencoder, can't be packaged? Why are only ffmpeg -dev in Normaly, encode

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Vedran Furac
Christian Marillat wrote: > Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>David Moreno Garza wrote: >> >>>On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > > [...] > > >>- note that there is software that probably can't be packaged: >> >>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.c

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Christian Marillat
Vedran Furac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Moreno Garza wrote: >> On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [...] > - note that there is software that probably can't be packaged: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=203211 > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bu

Re: Apps linked with old libstdc++ dlopening modules linked with the new one

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:39:55AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:33:17AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:31:55PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > > > > > > > > Applications linked with libstdc++5 and using GTK segfault when using > > > > SCIM[1] as

Re: Removing non-free documentation from main

2005-09-14 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 01:06:57PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > >Known non-free documentation licenses are: > > - GFDL (at least up the current version 1.2) > > - CC licenses (at least up to the current version 2.5) > > - OPL and OpenContent License > > - the current lice

Re: Removing non-free documentation from main

2005-09-14 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:36:11AM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 168 lines which said: >Known non-free documentation licenses are: > - GFDL (at least up the current version 1.2) > - CC licenses (at least up to the current version 2.5) > - OPL an

Re: Bug#323227: new list: debian-planet to distribute planet.debian.org postings; archive to enable searching

2005-09-14 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050914 10:47]: > | Maybe, if you don't want your output to be found on the Internet, you > | should not make it available on the Internet? > I think there is a difference between putting it all in one place with > a public archive and having the content availa

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Vedran Furac
David Moreno Garza wrote: > On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:02 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > >>>But my intention was not to read the whole list and do this by hand! >>>This should be done by the same script which sends the sem automated >>>mails to the BTS. >> >>As there is a consensus that it is a goo

Re: Reviving the Debian FAQ

2005-09-14 Thread George Danchev
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 03:01, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: --cut-- > Yes, I know there are some documents which are better than the FAQ for some > issues (such as the Installation Manual or the Debian reference). But there > are several reasons why I believe this document should be

Re: Apps linked with old libstdc++ dlopening modules linked with the new one

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 09:33:17AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:12:13PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:31:55PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > > > > > > Applications linked with libstdc++5 and using GTK segfault when using > > > SCIM[1] as input m

Re: Reviving the Debian FAQ

2005-09-14 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:48:07AM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I've fixed some of a), b) or c) with the help of Santiago Vila who is doing > > the Spanish translation but more peer review is needed here. > > Note that the docum

Re: Reviving the Debian FAQ

2005-09-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I've fixed some of a), b) or c) with the help of Santiago Vila who is doing > the Spanish translation but more peer review is needed here. Note that the document at the official URL you quote is probably obsolete; it identifies itself

Re: Reviving the Debian FAQ

2005-09-14 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I am taking the liberty to write this even though I am not a DD. Hope > you would not mind. Anyone who has relevant points to make are welcome on the -devel lists. Only DDs can upload packages and vote, but that is about it. > http://people.corn

Re: wnpp situation

2005-09-14 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi David! You wrote: > Talking with adn on IRC, I've decided to launch an script that will > close every opened ITP and RFP bug on the BTS with a lifetime greater > than 600 days by tonight (or if anything goes wrong -I have an exam > tomorrow noon-, by tomorrow night). I'll point to documentatio

cdebootstrap wontfix tag abuse

2005-09-14 Thread Martin Samuelsson
Henning Makholm wrote: > I think this counts as abuse of the wontfix tag. Setting the tag is > *never* a substitute for explaining (or referencing an explanation of) > why one thinks the problem should not be solved. I encountered this bug now, and asked myself - what should one do? Obviously th

Re: Bug#323227: new list: debian-planet to distribute planet.debian.org postings; archive to enable searching

2005-09-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Martin Schulze | Maybe, if you don't want your output to be found on the Internet, you | should not make it available on the Internet? I think there is a difference between putting it all in one place with a public archive and having the content available, but not organised into a public archi

Re: dpkg -L dpkg-query -L do not find all the files from a package

2005-09-14 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 03:46:34AM +, The Fungi wrote: > On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 11:18:01PM -0400, Angelina Carlton wrote: > [...] > > I was told on #debian-devel that, yes it is in-precise, so I am just > > wondering why would it *not* list all the files? What defines if a file > > is included

Re: Apps linked with old libstdc++ dlopening modules linked with the new one

2005-09-14 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:12:13PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:31:55PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > > > > Applications linked with libstdc++5 and using GTK segfault when using > > SCIM[1] as input method, and neither GTK nor SCIM nor the apps seem to > > be to blame. >

Consultant advertisements on -devel (was: Developer support)

2005-09-14 Thread Steffen Joeris
> Just for the record: Credativ is surely a good company, but there are > a lot more companies offering Debian support. To keep them all from > publicly answering requests on mailing lists, thus cluttering them, it > would be nice if we could restrict ourselves to pointers to the > consultants page

Re: Sound-juicer not in testing?

2005-09-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 07:19:03AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I've just tried to upgrade my testing distro, and aptitude is happy to > remove gnome and all its dependents because the required version of > sound-juicer has not migrated yet. Does anyone know why? Because sound-juicer is tied up