Work-needing packages report for Sep 9, 2005

2005-09-08 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 194 (new: 0) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 86 (new: 0) Total number of packages requeste

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:00:54AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 08, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Indeed, the "choice of venue is a fee" argument is just that: an > > > opinion which has at best no clear roots in the DFSG, therefore it > > > cannot make a license non-free.

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Bug#254248: What are the differences between cdebootstrap and debootstrap?

2005-09-08 Thread Rogério Brito
Package: cdebootstrap Version: 0.3.4 Followup-For: Bug #254248 I was a bit surprised to see a bug like 254248 being tagged as won't fix. I had the very same question as the original poster of the bug and I see that the package maintainer has taken similar actions to patches (see bug #231711), wit

Re: It is 23:53, do you know whether your package (un)installs cleanly?

2005-09-08 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2005-09-04 kello 11:32 -0400, Joey Hess kirjoitti: > Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > That's what I wanted to say, but, alas, it doesn't work. debootstrap > > fails to create an etch or sid chroot for me at the moment. > > It does if you run it with --resolve-deps. Indeed it does. Mea culpa. I have

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is nothing wrong with this, and I'm not a fan of choice of venue > > clauses either, but they should try to modify the DFSG then. > Could you explain why DFSG#5 couldn't be invoked in this case? It does not work this way. If you beli

Bug#327276: ITP: italc -- Intelligent Teaching And Learning with Computers

2005-09-08 Thread Florian Ragwitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Ragwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: italc Version : 0.9.6.2 Upstream Author : Tobias Dörffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : italc.sf.net * License : GPL Description : Intelligent Teaching And Learning wi

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Dalibor Topic
Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:58:32PM +0200, Yorick Cool wrote: >> >>>On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: > > >The application of the > United Nations Convention on Contracts for the In

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 09 septembre 2005 à 00:00 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > > Yeah, but there is certainly more than a single person arguing that we > > should > > not distribute software with such licence. > There is nothing wrong with this, and I'm not a fan of choice of venue > clauses either, but th

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 08, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Indeed, the "choice of venue is a fee" argument is just that: an > > opinion which has at best no clear roots in the DFSG, therefore it > > cannot make a license non-free. > Yeah, but there is certainly more than a single person arguing that we

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 08:21:57PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 08, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2) Any argument i may have are only the lame repetition of the opinion of > > a > > single person here on debian-legal. > Indeed, the "choice of venue is a fee" argument is

Processed: new address

2005-09-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > submitter 170477 ! Bug#170477: xmltex: can't make DVI/PS from DocBook orderedlist/itemizedlist Changed Bug submitter from Jean-Philippe Guérard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to Jean-Philippe Guérard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > submitter 53121 ! Bug#53121: There is

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 08, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2) Any argument i may have are only the lame repetition of the opinion of a > single person here on debian-legal. Indeed, the "choice of venue is a fee" argument is just that: an opinion which has at best no clear roots in the DFSG, therefore

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 08:57:59PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 08 September 2005 20:24, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > > On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote: > > > --cut-- > > > > > > > Yeah, well, i d

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 08 September 2005 20:24, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote: > > --cut-- > > > > > Yeah, well, i did an apt-get install star and looked at the copyright > > > file, so i am n

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 06:24:34PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > > On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote: > > --cut-- > > > Yeah, well, i did an apt-get install star and looked at the copyright > > > file, > > > s

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote: > --cut-- > > Yeah, well, i did an apt-get install star and looked at the copyright file, > > so i am not sure what facts i have to believe then. > > > > > http://packages.debia

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:58:32PM +0200, Yorick Cool wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: The application of the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods is

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Yorick Cool
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 05:04:00PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: Lionel> Lionel> >>> The application of the Lionel> >>>United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale Lionel> >>>of Goods is expressly excluded. Lionel> Lionel> Yes, but what does it *say*? What are the

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:58:32PM +0200, Yorick Cool wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: >>> The application of the >>>United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale >>>of Goods is expressly excluded. >> That's my favourite bit of la

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Yorick Cool
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: Dalibor> > The application of the Dalibor> >United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale Dalibor> >of Goods is expressly excluded. Dalibor> Dalibor> [snip] Dalibor> Dalibor> That's my favourite bit of lawy

Re: Debian OpenSolaris port, exchange with Sun folks in webforum/MailingList

2005-09-08 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 02:06:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Do we really think it's a good idea to approve of giving copyright >> holders extra leverage for such lawsuits in their license, and just >> hope that none of these copyrights ever wind up

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Dalibor Topic
Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: Sven Luther wrote: Notice that we already accepted a CDDLed program in debian, namely the star packages which comes with this clause : 9. MISCELLANEOUS. [snip] The application of the United Nations Conve

Re: Debian OpenSolaris port, exchange with Sun folks in webforum/MailingList

2005-09-08 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I get the feeling that it is not the freeness of them which is an issue, they > don't really make the software more or less free after all, since they enter > in account only if the licence is broken, There's your mistake. A choice-of-venue clause become

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:53:12PM +0300, George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote: > --cut-- > > Yeah, well, i did an apt-get install star and looked at the copyright file, > > so i am not sure what facts i have to believe then. > > > > > http://packages.debia

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:55:56PM +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > >Notice that we already accepted a CDDLed program in debian, namely the star > >packages which comes with this clause : > > > >9. MISCELLANEOUS. > > [snip] > > > The application of the > >United Nations Conv

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Dalibor Topic
Sven Luther wrote: Notice that we already accepted a CDDLed program in debian, namely the star packages which comes with this clause : 9. MISCELLANEOUS. [snip] The application of the United Nations Convention on Contracts for the International Sale of Goods is expressly excluded.

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread George Danchev
On Thursday 08 September 2005 16:21, Sven Luther wrote: --cut-- > Yeah, well, i did an apt-get install star and looked at the copyright file, > so i am not sure what facts i have to believe then. > > > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/s/star/star_1.4a17-3/star > >.copyright > > > > T

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 03:10:56PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Sven Luther schrieb: > > > Notice that we already accepted a CDDLed program in debian, namely the star > > packages which comes with this clause : > > Wrong. Well, i installed the package in sid (star 1.5a60-2), and looked at /usr/

Re: CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Sven Luther schrieb: > Notice that we already accepted a CDDLed program in debian, namely the star > packages which comes with this clause : Wrong. > So, i wonder why it was accepted, if it was non-free. But maybe we just passed > it up silently and didn't notice ? Who was the ftp-master respons

CDDL, OpenSolaris, Choice-of-venue and the star package ...

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 02:06:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:14:50AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 02:48:15PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:47:59PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > > > > > These two do not app

Re: email error message from d.o may be better

2005-09-08 Thread Adeodato Simó
* A Mennucc [Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:45:51 +0200]: > hi Hi, > I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of > debian-68k@lists.debian.org ; the error message that I got > was strange (in particular, the two lines > procmail: Error while writing to "DeadLog" > procmail: Error while writing

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-08 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
(I am not a lawyer, but I play one on TV) On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:11:29PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Thomas Bushnell writes: >>> Not quite correct. You are buing not just the right to read it; you are >>> also buying the physical copy, and y

Re: snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-08 Thread A Mennucc
Andreas Barth wrote: * A Mennucc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050908 13:39]: (maybe I do not properly understand how the transition unstable -> testing goes , but...) my packages from source libprinterconf, see http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libprinterconf are waiting for snmpkit

email error message from d.o may be better

2005-09-08 Thread A Mennucc
hi I sent an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of debian-68k@lists.debian.org ; the error message that I got was strange (in particular, the two lines procmail: Error while writing to "DeadLog" procmail: Error while writing to "/var/mail/debian" look as if there is a misconfiguration somewh

Re: snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-08 Thread Andreas Barth
* A Mennucc ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050908 13:39]: > (maybe I do not properly understand how the transition unstable -> testing > goes , but...) > > my packages from source libprinterconf, see > http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libprinterconf > are waiting for snmpkit to go into testi

snmpkit stuck in unstable ?

2005-09-08 Thread A Mennucc
hi people (maybe I do not properly understand how the transition unstable -> testing goes , but...) my packages from source libprinterconf, see http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=libprinterconf are waiting for snmpkit to go into testing; at the same time, my packages from source

Re: Re: Which CD is a package on?

2005-09-08 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:21:17PM -0400, Mike O'Connor wrote: > > (00:58:29) *cheal:* cd contents > > (00:58:29) *dpkg:* To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo > > template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see > > the list of packages that are contained in

Re: Debian OpenSolaris port, exchange with Sun folks in webforum/MailingList

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 02:06:12AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:14:50AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 02:48:15PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:47:59PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > > > > > These two do not app

Re: Debian OpenSolaris port, exchange with Sun folks in webforum/MailingList

2005-09-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 10:14:50AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 02:48:15PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:47:59PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > > > > These two do not appear to be compatible (unless you think a license > > > > can be "free" w

Re: Debian OpenSolaris port, exchange with Sun folks in webforum/MailingList

2005-09-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 02:48:15PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:47:59PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > > > These two do not appear to be compatible (unless you think a license > > > can be "free" with a venue choice that you do not consider "sane"), so > > > I must

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata

2005-09-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 06:13:57PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I wrote: > >> In some jurisdictions lending is an exclusive right of the copyright > >> owner. > > > > Thomas Bushnell writes: > >> Can you be specific with references please? > > >