Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org)

2005-09-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
la, 2005-09-03 kello 01:34 +0200, Andreas Schuldei kirjoitti: > The wiki markup languages of twiki and moin-moin are not > compatible. Still it would be nice to have some content moved > from the old .net wiki to the new .org one. wiki.debian.net seems to be running kwiki, not twiki, in case that

Re: Work-needing packages report for Sep 2, 2005

2005-09-02 Thread Ben Burton
> Yes, those are the titles of those bugs *now*, after I noticed the > problem in the list. Check the original bug titles as submitted. :) FWIW, this was due to an issue with reportbug which was recently fixed (#323801). b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "uns

Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org)

2005-09-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 01:34 +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > The wiki markup languages of twiki and moin-moin are not > compatible. Still it would be nice to have some content moved > from the old .net wiki to the new .org one. (the debconf team for > one is interested in using the features of moin

Re: How coldplug works

2005-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 23, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (#100) How coldplug works Update: coldplug is being reimplemented in C and will become part of udev, so there will not be further developement of the package in this form. If you installed coldplug, please purge it and install hotplug again. --

Do we still need libc5?

2005-09-02 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Hi all, Debian unstable & testing still carry around libc5, and some associated packages like altgcc, libdb1, ld.so and a few others. Is there nowadays still a use for these packages? Does the amount of usage warrant the efforts it take to maintain these rather outdated packages? I get a mixed re

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-02 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> Would it be acceptable to reject or drop more non-spam? (We could >I am uncomfortable with dropping any mail, but I encourage a sensible >policy to reject spam. Sorry if I did not make it clear before, we already are dumping 100,000 mess

migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org)

2005-09-02 Thread Andreas Schuldei
The wiki markup languages of twiki and moin-moin are not compatible. Still it would be nice to have some content moved from the old .net wiki to the new .org one. (the debconf team for one is interested in using the features of moin-moin for easier cooperation and to keep the existing pages.) The

Re: a place for a package directory in root

2005-09-02 Thread Joerg Sommer
Hello Steve, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:11:31PM +, Joerg Sommer wrote: >> It seems there is a misunderstanding. bootchart is a shell script that is >> started as init (kernel prompt init=/sbin/bootchart), which then forks >> the real init to start th

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

2005-09-02 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:55:23PM +0200, Wouter van Heyst wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > >> I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant: the people you are >> trying to convince already believe in what you are saying. >> I suspect that Yavor inte

Re: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 06:51:20PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:04:27AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> But no one has yet answered my question: *why* are there ABI > >> differences between the gnutls and openssl builds? > To the best of my knowledge (I could be w

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

2005-09-02 Thread Wouter van Heyst
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant: the people you are > trying to convince already believe in what you are saying. > I suspect that Yavor interpeted this as: the people you are trying to > convince don't care. > >

Re: a place for a package directory in root

2005-09-02 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Steve Langasek [Thu, 01 Sep 2005 23:03:21 -0700]: > >> Hrm. If this information is all just being copied to the real >> filesystem at the end of the boot process anyway, why does it need to >> write it out to disk instead

Bug#326398: ITP: joomla -- new content management system created by the former mambo team

2005-09-02 Thread David Moreno Garza
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: joomla Version : 1.0 (not released yet) Upstream Author : Joomla Core Team (http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/13/29/) * URL

Bug#326397: ITP: joomla -- new content management system created by the former mambo team

2005-09-02 Thread David Moreno Garza
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: joomla Version : 1.0 (not released yet) Upstream Author : Joomla Core Team (http://www.joomla.org/content/blogcategory/13/29/) * URL : http://www.joomla.org/ * License

Re: use of {} shell wildcards in debian/rules

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
Please fix your broken From: header. On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 05:44:26PM +0300, Delian Delchev wrote: > Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:17:30PM +0100, Toby White wrote: > >>Since they are Makefiles, there is no convention (is there?) for specifying > >>which shell shoul

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

2005-09-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > > >parse error. > > > >1. Yavor Doganov says something. > >2. Wouter Verhelst: Yeah. _We_ know. > >3. Yavor Doganov: Is suddenly "sad" that Wouter (seems to) agree(s). > > > >WTF? > > I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter mean

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

2005-09-02 Thread Joe Smith
parse error. 1. Yavor Doganov says something. 2. Wouter Verhelst: Yeah. _We_ know. 3. Yavor Doganov: Is suddenly "sad" that Wouter (seems to) agree(s). WTF? I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant: the people you are trying to convince already believe in what you are saying.

Re: Bug#325709: ITP: xmms2 -- XMMS2 is a redesign of the XMMS music player

2005-09-02 Thread Emanuele Rocca
* David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [2005-09-01 11:42 -0500]: > On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 08:52 -0400, Bryan Donlan wrote: > > The only thing shared between xmms1 and xmms2, really, is the name. Hey, they're both music players as well. :) > So is this a fork of XMMS? If not, I can't see a re

Re: Debian package and OpenSSL stuff

2005-09-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 07:07:02PM +0200, Jean-Philippe Garcia Ballester wrote: > Hi, > I heard OpenSSL's license is incompatible with GPL. Does this apply to > binary package only or both binary and source package? > The thing is, the library I'm packaging can use both libcrypto (from > Open

Re: bugs.d.o: usertags and user categories

2005-09-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Anthony Towns [2005.09.02.1852 +0200]: > Thanks particularly to Margarita Manterola and Erinn Clark for > acting as sounding boards and offering inspiration and advice, and > to other folks on #debian-women (Moray Allan, James Troup, David > Nusinow, Pascal Hakim, Hanna Wallach, Helen

Debian package and OpenSSL stuff

2005-09-02 Thread Jean-Philippe Garcia Ballester
Hi, I heard OpenSSL's license is incompatible with GPL. Does this apply to binary package only or both binary and source package? The thing is, the library I'm packaging can use both libcrypto (from OpenSSL) and libgcrypt, using ifdef. The binary package is built with libgcrypt support only.

Bug#326237: ITP: pyrss -- fetches rss feeds and notify registered jabber users

2005-09-02 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pyrss Version : 0.9.9.1-1 Upstream Author : Rafal Zawadzki * URL : http://pyrss.jabberstudio.org/ * License : GPL Description : fetches rss feeds and notify regi

Bug#326236: ITP: feedparser -- universal feed parser

2005-09-02 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: feedparser Version : 3.3-1 Upstream Author : Mark Pilgrim * URL : http://www.feedparser.org/ * License : Python license Description : universal feed parser Pyth

Re: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Richard Atterer
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:04:27AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > But no one has yet answered my question: *why* are there ABI > > differences between the gnutls and openssl builds? To the best of my knowledge (I could be wrong), ATM the only ABI difference is that when OpenSSL is used, curl_

Re: long long support on all archs?

2005-09-02 Thread Ben Pfaff
Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You could have written this with equal validity: > long int typedef long int64_t; Not a good idea, though, because C99 says this: 6.11.5 Storage-class specifiers 1The placement of a storage-class specifier other than at the beginning o

Re: Bug#326173: RFH: php-pspell

2005-09-02 Thread Brian Nelson
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 07:32:57AM +, OndÅ?ej SurÜ wrote: > there was three request to enable *spell extensions in php4/5 packages. > Currently nobody from PHP maintainers team wants to add more burden on > his shoulders, hence I request help from our fellow debian developers > to package pspe

Benita Hsueh/Toronto/IBM is out of Office

2005-09-02 Thread Benita Hsueh
I will be out of the office starting 08/27/2005 and will not return until 09/12/2005. I will have access to email. If you need immediate assistance, please contact Melody Ng. Benita. For NextWave Issues or questions, please contact Paul Rodriguez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#318590: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 02, Paul TBBle Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I've understood correctly, it is because curl expects the client program > or library to -lgnutls or -lopenssl and therefore provide the SSL symbols > to match the symbols which that build of the .so file is expecting. I hope not, this

Re: Bug#318590: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:04:27AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:24:18PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > >> - libcurl3 (GnuTLS, soname: libcurl.so.3) > But no one has yet answered my question: *why* are there ABI differences > between the gnutls and op

Re: use of {} shell wildcards in debian/rules

2005-09-02 Thread Delian Delchev
Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: >On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:17:30PM +0100, Toby White wrote: > > >>Since they are Makefiles, there is no convention (is there?) for specifying >>which shell should be used to execute commands. >> >> > >I use "export SHELL=/bin/bash" in the top of Makefiles where

Re: use of {} shell wildcards in debian/rules

2005-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:17:30PM +0100, Toby White wrote: > I have recently come across this behaviour while rebuilding > modxslt; in the debian/rules file, there are several instances > of the idiom: > > @cp -a $(CURDIR)/debian/libmodxslt0/usr/lib/libmodxslt0{.a,.la} \ >$(CURDIR)/debian

Re: use of {} shell wildcards in debian/rules

2005-09-02 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 03:17:30PM +0100, Toby White wrote: > Since they are Makefiles, there is no convention (is there?) for specifying > which shell should be used to execute commands. I use "export SHELL=/bin/bash" in the top of Makefiles where I use bashisms. I greatly prefer that over making

use of {} shell wildcards in debian/rules

2005-09-02 Thread Toby White
I have recently come across this behaviour while rebuilding modxslt; in the debian/rules file, there are several instances of the idiom: @cp -a $(CURDIR)/debian/libmodxslt0/usr/lib/libmodxslt0{.a,.la} \ $(CURDIR)/debian/libmodxslt0-dev/usr/lib Note the use of the {.a,.la} wildcards. While

Re: Bug#318590: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:24:18PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > > - libcurl3 (GnuTLS, soname: libcurl.so.3) > > So the libcurl3 in sarge and etch will have ABI incompatibilities? > at the release time of etch this problem will regard only > external software. this kind of i

Re: Bug#318590: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:56:13AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Domenico Andreoli [Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:16:28 +0200]: > > > - libcurl3-dev (OpenSSL, depends: libssl-dev) > > - libcurl3-openssl-dev (GnuTLS, depends: libgnutls-dev) > > Obvious typo/whatever here, right? On Fri, Sep

Re: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:58:05AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:16:28AM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > > > ok, we are hooked into the libflac6 transition, let's start the curl one. > > > my wish is to upload curl 7.14.1 with the following package layout: > > > -

Re: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:56:13AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Domenico Andreoli [Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:16:28 +0200]: > > - libcurl3 (GnuTLS, soname: libcurl.so.3) > So the libcurl3 in sarge and etch will have ABI incompatibilities? If done right, I see no reason this should be

Re: Work-needing packages report for Sep 2, 2005

2005-09-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 02:49:32AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Yes, those are the titles of those bugs *now*, after I noticed the > problem in the list. Check the original bug titles as submitted. :) Ah, I see. Thanks for pointing this out! -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UN

Re: Interest in packaging GNU Shishi and GNU Generic Security Service?

2005-09-02 Thread Simon Josefsson
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The software area in which you're writing code is fairly mature and even > standardized. Pretty much everything that does SASL uses Cyrus SASL. It is not even that good, plenty of applications implement their own SASL code. A quick ldd $bin|grep sasl s

Re: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:16:28AM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > ok, we are hooked into the libflac6 transition, let's start the curl one. > my wish is to upload curl 7.14.1 with the following package layout: > - curl (OpenSSL, linked to libcurl-openssl.so.3) > - libcurl3

Re: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Domenico Andreoli [Fri, 02 Sep 2005 11:16:28 +0200]: > - libcurl3-dev (OpenSSL, depends: libssl-dev) > - libcurl3-openssl-dev (GnuTLS, depends: libgnutls-dev) Obvious typo/whatever here, right? > - libcurl3 (GnuTLS, soname: libcurl.so.3) So the libcurl3 in sarg

Re: Spam on the BTS (was: Spam on this list)

2005-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 01, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it be acceptable to reject or drop more non-spam? (We could I am uncomfortable with dropping any mail, but I encourage a sensible policy to reject spam. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Work-needing packages report for Sep 2, 2005

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 10:25:09AM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:26:09AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > The following packages have been orphaned: > >Kate (#325996), orphaned yesterday > >Konqueror (#325996), orphaned yesterday > >XMMS (#325995), orphaned

Re: Work-needing packages report for Sep 2, 2005

2005-09-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 02 September 2005 08:26, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested > through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the > last week. Something is wrong with this list: > The following packages have been o

Re: Work-needing packages report for Sep 2, 2005

2005-09-02 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 12:26:09AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The following packages have been orphaned: > >Kate (#325996), orphaned yesterday >Konqueror (#325996), orphaned yesterday >XMMS (#325995), orphaned yesterday >and (#325996), orphaned yesterday >for (#325996),

Re: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Domenico Andreoli
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:40:17PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 the mental interface of Daniel Stenberg told: > > > > The problem you have with libcurl and OpenSSL/GnuTLS is not strictly an > > "upstream problem". > > > > In the curl project there are some ideas floa

Re: Bug#325643: libcurl and moc

2005-09-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 30, Daniel Stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my view, there's only one available work-around for the short to mid > term, and that is to use a separate .so file for libcurl built with GnuTLS. We know that in the long term we want to use gnutls. So why should it not be the default fo

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-02 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, * Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-02 10:20]: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:03:26PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > What about using the msgid instead of the id so it would be > > possible to use your MUA to mark a mail as spam via a script > > which can be executed and calls the spam-repo

Bug#326173: RFH: php-pspell

2005-09-02 Thread Ondřej SurÜ
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Hi people, there was three request to enable *spell extensions in php4/5 packages. Currently nobody from PHP maintainers team wants to add more burden on his shoulders, hence I request help from our fellow debian developers to package pspell and aspell extensions as

Re: Spam on this list

2005-09-02 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem is that being too restrictive on spam also means getting > more false positives. Therefore one must find out how much more restrictive one can be without getting too restrictive. :D -- Stig Sandbeck Mathisen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: a place for a package directory in root

2005-09-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 08:53:19AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Steve Langasek [Thu, 01 Sep 2005 23:03:21 -0700]: > > Hrm. If this information is all just being copied to the real > > filesystem at the end of the boot process anyway, why does it need to > > write it out to disk instead of just