Work-needing packages report for Jul 29, 2005

2005-07-28 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 214 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 116 (new: 7) Total number of packages request

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-28 Thread Clément Stenac
Hello, > If you go to review all description, please check the technical parts > also. Sure, thanks for the reminder. I added it to the wiki page I think the interface is now ready for the work to begin. However, very few people replied. Someone suggested an announcement should be sent to d-d-a.

Re: meanin of sid tag

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 02:38:19AM +0200, Mathias Weyland wrote: > I don't understand what the 'sid' tag is for and who is allowed to set it. > Bug #318692 and #320218 have been assigned to the packages xlib-dev, > bookmarkbridge and 3ddesktop. Both of those bugs deal with changing > build-deps fo

Bug#320397: ITP: nepim -- A tool for measuring available network bandwidth between two hosts

2005-07-28 Thread Ian Wienand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ian Wienand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: nepim Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Everton da Silva Marques <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.nongnu.org/nepim/ * License : GPL Description : A tool for measu

meanin of sid tag

2005-07-28 Thread Mathias Weyland
Hi I don't understand what the 'sid' tag is for and who is allowed to set it. Bug #318692 and #320218 have been assigned to the packages xlib-dev, bookmarkbridge and 3ddesktop. Both of those bugs deal with changing build-deps for Xorg. Since we already have a 3ddesktop package with fixed depende

Re: ..last mirror update was a week ago, what's going on???

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 02:31:01AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..last mirror update was a week ago, what's going on??? > ..and, yeah, gg:"Debian mirror update" "21-Jul-2005" etc > finds _lotsa_ noise. > ..whether this mirror update lapse is planned or not, a wee > mention here on d-m and and

..last mirror update was a week ago, what's going on???

2005-07-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
Ok, ..last mirror update was a week ago, what's going on??? I get: ftp-master.debian.org 21-Jul-2005 21:00 29 ftp.de.debian.org 21-Jul-2005 22:24 29 syncproxy.eu.debian.org 21-Jul-2005 21:54 29 etc, on _all_ mirrors I've chked. ..and, yeah, gg:"Debian mirror update" "21-Jul-2005" et

Bug#320387: ITP: pyicq-t -- ICQ Transport for Jabber, implemented with Python and Twisted

2005-07-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pyicq-t Version : 0.6-1 Upstream Author : Daniel Henninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pyicq-t.blathersource.org/ * License : GPL Description : ICQ T

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think static libs have outlived their usefulness in Debian for the > most part; but using this to justify creating whole *new* packages for > static linking would just be insane. The dependencies of -dev packages > are just not that big a deal to war

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 07:06:34AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > > - Don't ship .la files in the -dev package; don't depend on any other -dev > > > packages except those whose headers you need. This gives optimal > > > results > > > for shared linking by pruning all unnecessary build-depen

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > - Don't ship .la files in the -dev package; don't depend on any other -dev > > packages except those whose headers you need. This gives optimal results > > for shared linking by pruning all unnecessary build-dependencies and > > dependencies; but it also screws over anyone trying to

Re: Packages descriptions review

2005-07-28 Thread Michael Bramer
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 08:55:23PM +0200, Clément Stenac wrote: > Hello, > > Following the recent discussion about packages descriptions (see > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/07/msg01074.html and later), > and based on Lars Wirzenius' idea, I started working on preparing a > general rev

Re: Problemes with the debian archives or apt?

2005-07-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 22:34 +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > I think it'd be nice to have some status (HTML) page that lists all > current issues. Perhaps on the wiki[1] so that it *can* actually be updated by most who want to inform about issues? Kind regards, Philipp Kern [1] http://wiki.debi

DDPO: excuses broken? (Was: Re: bugs2ldap gateway down - wnpp, bts.turmzimmer.net broken)

2005-07-28 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 10:47:50PM +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > I'll just use this thread for another question regarding qa.debian.org. What for? This only confuses people... This is not related at all. > Could someone tell me why: > http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?gpg_key=13FEFC4

Re: bugs2ldap gateway down - wnpp, bts.turmzimmer.net broken

2005-07-28 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 10:38:58PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > on request of Ryan Murray I stopped the bugs2ldap-gateway on > bugs.debian.org. I'll move that gateway to some other host as soon as I > have time. At least the following services are broken by that: > - the wnpp bug list > - bts.turm

bugs2ldap gateway down - wnpp, bts.turmzimmer.net broken

2005-07-28 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, on request of Ryan Murray I stopped the bugs2ldap-gateway on bugs.debian.org. I'll move that gateway to some other host as soon as I have time. At least the following services are broken by that: - the wnpp bug list - bts.turmzimmer.net I am sorry for that. I'll follow up as soon as this serv

Re: Problemes with the debian archives or apt?

2005-07-28 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 7/28/05, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, the Info about relocation did give the impression that the > service were expected to return on monday. The fact of having services > down for two more days was unexpected and not explained in the Info > about its finish. > > As usual,

Re: Problemes with the debian archives or apt?

2005-07-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:05:05 +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 08:57:20AM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: >> I notive that for about a week there is NO package upgrade in sid. This >> is realy unusual. >> >> Is there any problem with the package servers

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It doesn't exist; I think it's a great idea. Perhaps a tool named > dh_libtool, which populates a substvar named ${libtool:Depends}? Sounds good to me. I'm going to be leaving my current job in a few weeks and taking several weeks off between jobs. I

Re: problem installing libmotif-dev on debian sarge stable

2005-07-28 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 07:24 am, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote: > Hi. I am trying to install the development files for motif but i get this: > > porter:~# apt-get install libmotif-dev What do you get if you chase dependencies by hand by running: apt-get install libmotif-dev xlibs-dev Da

Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 22:00 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Ron Johnson] > > Soon after you put it in Experimental, installed it, for that very > > reason. > > I got a parse error on this one. I suspect you are unaware that the > HTTP option is available in unstable, version 1.30. Yes. But

Re: Bug#320067: ITP: vamps -- Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams by selectively copying audio and subpicture tracks and by re-quantizing the embedded elementary video stream.

2005-07-28 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 09:57 -0400, Eric Cooper wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:09:18AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > ti, 2005-07-26 kello 21:36 +0200, Moratti Claudio kirjoitti: > > > Description : Vamps evaporates DVD compliant MPEG2 program streams > > > by selectively copying audio

Re: Please participate in popularity-contest

2005-07-28 Thread Philip Ross
Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: Graham Wilson wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: There might eb cases where it harms but those should be the minority. Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron installed by default would mess somet

Re: doomsday not DFSG (was Re: ITP: doomsday - greatly improved engine to play doom, doom2, heretic and hexen)

2005-07-28 Thread Alexander Fieroch
Jon Dowland wrote: I've added the original ITPer to the CC list, as he hasn't contributed to this thread (and so I don't know if he reads -devel). Alexander, your ITP has generated a bit of discussion: see . Thanks. Indeed I didn

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Greenland
On 28-Jul-05, 03:02 (CDT), Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > fact 1: shared library > > gcc -lnewt a.c Right. No problem. > fact 2: static library > > gcc -lslang -lnewt a.c Right, Just like it's always been on Unix systems. > fact 3: libtool library > libtool tries to impleme

Re: libxml++2.10

2005-07-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> Hi Nikita, > > Am Donnerstag, den 28.07.2005, 12:04 +0400 schrieb Nikita V. > > Youshchenko: > > > I talked to upstream and they > > > said, the ABI broke during the development unintentionally, but we > > > should better stick to libxml++2.6-2.10.0 and recompile the > > > dependent packages. >

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Stephen Frost
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > It doesn't exist; I think it's a great idea. Perhaps a tool named > dh_libtool, which populates a substvar named ${libtool:Depends}? This sounds reasonable to me; I appriciate that it's a libtool-specific thing and not a blanket policy. :) > FWIW, de

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 08:29:52AM -0400, Jay Berkenbilt wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Leave the .la files in place; -dev packages need to depend on -dev > > packages corresponding to those runtime dependencies that are also built > > using libtool. This is the stat

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Jay Berkenbilt
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Leave the .la files in place; -dev packages need to depend on -dev > packages corresponding to those runtime dependencies that are also built > using libtool. This is the status quo. If we do this (which I think we should for now), I would sugges

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Stephen Frost
* Junichi Uekawa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > - Option 4 (requires volunteers): fix libtool > > Blankly stating that libtool needs to be 'fixed' > because it is 'broken' is not very helpful. > Would you care to explain what needs to be fixed and why > it is broken? Good working examples would

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Stephen Frost
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 08:57:51PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 07:20:44PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > libtool is broken in this regard and needs to be fixed to survive

Re: libxml++2.10

2005-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 10:49:07AM +0200, Daniel Holbach wrote: > Hi Nikita, > Am Donnerstag, den 28.07.2005, 12:04 +0400 schrieb Nikita V. > Youshchenko: > > > I talked to upstream and they > > > said, the ABI broke during the development unintentionally, but we > > > should better stick to libx

Re: libxml++2.10

2005-07-28 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hi Nikita, Am Donnerstag, den 28.07.2005, 12:04 +0400 schrieb Nikita V. Youshchenko: > > I talked to upstream and they > > said, the ABI broke during the development unintentionally, but we > > should better stick to libxml++2.6-2.10.0 and recompile the dependent > > packages. > > Is 2.10 backwa

Re: SUMMARY: Re: shared library -dev package naming proposal

2005-07-28 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > - Kill the .la files and .a files. Drop support for static linking. Not > > something that should be done lightly and without prior project-wide > > discussion. > > - Leave the .la files in place; -dev packages need to depend on -dev > > packages corresponding to those runtime depe

Re: libxml++2.10

2005-07-28 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> > For one of our internal projects, libxml++2.6 was too old. > > So I've created a package for libxml++2.10, using debian/ dir for the > > latest libxml++2.6 package. > > I packaged it for Ubuntu - libxml++2.6 and libxml++2.10 were never > designed to be installable parallely. I believe my packa

Re: Documentation of alioth?

2005-07-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Raphael Hertzog: > Now haydn is running sarge so it's relatively easy to duplicate alioth > on a local (virtual) machine (before the mixture of woody/sarge was > suboptimal). You have the sources and the packages running on alioth... > you can provide patches that apply to Alioth's version of gf

Re: Problemes with the debian archives or apt?

2005-07-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Klaus Ethgen: > I notive that for about a week there is NO package upgrade in sid. This > is realy unusual. A server at the heart of the archive update process has been relocated. It is expected that this work has been completed (see debian-devel-announce), so regular development should contin

Re: Problemes with the debian archives or apt?

2005-07-28 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Thu, Jul 28, 2005 at 08:57:20AM +0200, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Hello, Hi. > I notive that for about a week there is NO package upgrade in sid. This > is realy unusual. > > Is there any problem with the package servers or with apt (version > 0.6.38)? Two of Debian's machines were being moved i