Re: SONAME and package version question

2005-06-22 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Roberto C. Sanchez [Wed, Jun 22 2005, 12:41:08PM]: > On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:32:04AM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > > > > You will also need to be careful about when you run dh_makeshlibs if you > > manually set the version numbers. > > > > In debian/rules, I have this: > > # shared

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-22 Thread Jim Crilly
On 06/22/05 12:02:53PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:22:33 -0400 (EDT), Freddie Unpenstein <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: > > >> > - inetd begone! -> xinetd (better mechanism to control DoS, > >> > separation, etc.) > > >> xinetd begone. There is no justification for us

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Frost wrote: :: Based on the requirements it seems unlikely Debian :: would be able to afford to pay for hosting very :: long with our current donation income amounts. :: Gigabit network connections and associated rack space :: is cheaper than

Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

2005-06-22 Thread Joey Hess
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Finally, it reports problems against the state of the directory > tree at the last distribution compared with the state without > the packages having been installed. It would be useful if it could report the same problems in the intermediate dis

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 23 June 2005 07:17, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, it is, if every suggestion for "improvement" is a poor one. Lack > > > of good ideas does not justify bad ones; not having any good ideas does > > > not invalidate or in any way reduce the value of pointing out the

Received: lines in email from Debian servers

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
Could the Debian mail servers be reconfigured to put more information in the Received: lines? Below is a sample from the headers of a mail sent to me by gluck. You will note that my server logs that the envelope recipient was [EMAIL PROTECTED] while gluck puts no such data in the log entry. T

Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

2005-06-22 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2005-06-20 kello 16:47 +0100, Paul Brossier kirjoitti: > how about an optional debian/package.piuparts file that would contain > the syntax to make runtime tests? this would allow to check that > executables can be run, and possibly that their result is consistent. it > could even be used to de

Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

2005-06-22 Thread Lars Wirzenius
la, 2005-06-18 kello 22:53 -0400, Joey Hess kirjoitti: > I want to run a test that installs each package in woody in turn, > upgrades them to sarge, then to sid, then purges it, then looks for > /usr/doc and /usr/info stuff that is were produced during the package's > install or upgrade and not rem

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-22 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 13:09 +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > That would make the "you forgot this, and this or this" > useless in my opinion. > What do you think? I would write this patch, if you agree. > Regards Nico You could write the patch, file a wishlist bug against reportbug and send it to the bu

Re: Question about replacing obsolete packages.

2005-06-22 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 17:43 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I was planning on adopting iceme and icepref. However, both are no > longer active upstream. They are now modules of the IceWM Control Panel > (IceWMCP). I will package IceWMCP soon. However, I would like to > ensure that users with

Question about replacing obsolete packages.

2005-06-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I was planning on adopting iceme and icepref. However, both are no longer active upstream. They are now modules of the IceWM Control Panel (IceWMCP). I will package IceWMCP soon. However, I would like to ensure that users with iceme or icepref currently installed see icewmcp as the "next versio

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 07:19:44PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 09:21, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 05:58:11PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > > Rejecting every suggestion for an improvement is not helpful. > > > > Yes, it is, if ever

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2005-06-22 Thread jack
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/22/2005, 06:47:05 PM: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Format: 1.7 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:52:46 +0200 > Source: libdbd-pg-perl > Binary: libdbd-pg-perl > Architecture: source i386 > Version: 1.42-0sarge1 > Distribution: sta

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unfortunatly the CCCP is currently maxed out on power in its existing > racks, so is not taking new clients, unless one moves. Is this true for its "sister sites" too? The web page says they have sites in Seattle, Chicago, Toronto, and Washington. Thomas

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 6/22/05, Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Olaf van der Spek] > > I've been wondering, would it be an idea (for the long-term) to use > > (more) distributed ... or p2p concepts to reduce the dependency and > > load on central servers? > > Please give some specific examples of wha

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Olaf van der Spek] > I've been wondering, would it be an idea (for the long-term) to use > (more) distributed ... or p2p concepts to reduce the dependency and > load on central servers? Please give some specific examples of what you mean. Debian services are already distributed across a wide ra

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 6/22/05, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If you think you could offer hosting under these conditions, please > > send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I can't offer hosting, but I do have a suggestion (though perhaps it's > already

Re: raidtools2 -> mdadm change: woes and problems

2005-06-22 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 11:16, Brian May wrote: > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.e >n.html#s-mdadm > The documentation said that there was no need for a config file, and I > never used a 2.2 kernel, so the paragraphs starting with "If your RAID > array was

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-22 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:22:33 -0400 (EDT), Freddie Unpenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > - inetd begone! -> xinetd (better mechanism to control DoS, >> > separation, etc.) >> xinetd begone. There is no justification for using anything >> resembling inetd on a modern system. > What planet

Re: SONAME and package version question

2005-06-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 10:32:04AM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > > You will also need to be careful about when you run dh_makeshlibs if you > manually set the version numbers. > In debian/rules, I have this: # shared library versions, option 1 version=0.2.6 major=0 Is that what I need to change?

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Joey Hess
Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I can't offer hosting, but I do have a suggestion (though perhaps it's > already been considered and rejected). We could perhaps take > advantage of the California Community Colocation Project, which offers > free colocation for non-profits and individuals. Unfortunat

Re: SONAME and package version question

2005-06-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 11:14 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez a écrit : > I am working on packaging the ROTE library so that I can depend on it > for anyterm. I need to package version 0.2.6 + the CVS from 20050511. > I have created a patch between the 0.2.6 release and the 20050511 CVS. > > Without

Re: SONAME and package version question

2005-06-22 Thread Adam Majer
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >I am working on packaging the ROTE library so that I can depend on it >for anyterm. I need to package version 0.2.6 + the CVS from 20050511. >I have created a patch between the 0.2.6 release and the 20050511 CVS. > >Without the patch, the relevant contents of the .deb a

Wanted: co-maintainer(s) for dovecot

2005-06-22 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Now that sarge has released, I really want to move to the 1-0stable series of the dovecot IMAP/POP3 server in sid. However being really busy with various things I thought it might be prudent to get one or more co-maintainers to help out so it can get done quickly. (Though there are a couple o

SONAME and package version question

2005-06-22 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I am working on packaging the ROTE library so that I can depend on it for anyterm. I need to package version 0.2.6 + the CVS from 20050511. I have created a patch between the 0.2.6 release and the 20050511 CVS. Without the patch, the relevant contents of the .deb are: $ dpkg -c librote0_0.2.6-1_

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 11:43:53AM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Wed, June 22, 2005 11:36, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > "Thijs Kinkhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Wed, June 22, 2005 10:25, James Troup wrote: > >>> o be a donation, i.e. gratis. Debian can't pay for it's own hostin

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 07:48:11AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Nico Golde] > > what about including the possibility of an RFS in reportbug? > > I think this would be a good idea because I often see RFS > > requests which are totally stupid. > Well, either way, I'd suggest a separate script.

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jonas Meurer] > paying for any parts of infrastructure would delete the independance > from donations. debian was never depending on any donations, for > good reasons. if we change this, the next step will be that some > monstrous companies offer deals to us: "We give you money, you give > us XY

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-22 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Nico Golde] > what about including the possibility of an RFS in reportbug? > I think this would be a good idea because I often see RFS > requests which are totally stupid. Encouraging people so inexperienced as to post stupid RFSes to upload *more* things to Debian is not particularly productive

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 22/06/2005 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Wed, June 22, 2005 10:25, James Troup wrote: > > o be a donation, i.e. gratis. Debian can't pay for it's own hosting. > > I was wondering about this statement. Debian receives monetary donations > and owns quite a lot of money - wouldn't paying for critic

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-22 Thread Freddie Unpenstein
> > - inetd begone! -> xinetd (better mechanism to control DoS, > > separation, etc.) > xinetd begone. There is no justification for using anything > resembling inetd on a modern system. What planet do you live on? I want MORE use of inetd, not less. I want to be able to select a service, a

Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-22 Thread Nico Golde
Hi, what about including the possibility of an RFS in reportbug? I think this would be a good idea because I often see RFS requests which are totally stupid. If we would include it in reportbug everybody can use a template (for example similiar to the ITP template) and reportbug could check if ther

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Stephen Frost
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, June 22, 2005 11:36, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > I think the point is that we ask for a donation before we spend money > > on it. > > Sure, but the statement quoted above rules it out entirely. "can't pay" is > pretty definitive. I'm wonder

Re: Bug#315298: ITP: yaird -- Yet Another mkInitRD

2005-06-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 22, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe I am thinking too much in the future, but I would really like to > see yaird in Debian be able to use klibc in Debian for all the user > tools (I believe there is already an ITP for klibc). People are working on this. -- ciao, Marco signa

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 07:21:52PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Monday 20 June 2005 21:45, "Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyway, the major problem now are the @packages.debian.org addresses, I > > have ~20 of them and most days they account for 1/3 to 1/2 of all the > > spam I r

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 19:23, "Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 22, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why not just block mail sent to the packages.debian.org addresses? > > No-one sends real mail to them anyway so they are just a free pass for > > spammers. > > Mainl

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 19:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I am ok with anti-spam measures which enable a well-behaving false > >> positive sender to know they have run afoul, and in which the > >> maintainers of the mechanism promise to try and adjust the system so > >> t

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, June 22, 2005 11:36, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > "Thijs Kinkhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Wed, June 22, 2005 10:25, James Troup wrote: >>> o be a donation, i.e. gratis. Debian can't pay for it's own hosting. >> >> I was wondering about this statement. Debian receives monetary d

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
"Thijs Kinkhorst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, June 22, 2005 10:25, James Troup wrote: >> o be a donation, i.e. gratis. Debian can't pay for it's own hosting. > > I was wondering about this statement. Debian receives monetary donations > and owns quite a lot of money - wouldn't paying fo

Re: Bug#315298: ITP: yaird -- Yet Another mkInitRD

2005-06-22 Thread Brian May
> "Jonas" == Jonas Smedegaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jonas> YAIRD is a sysfs-based initrd builder. It determines Jonas> which modules to load based on the same algorithms as Jonas> hotplug. Unlike Debian's stock initrd-tools, the kernel Jonas> being booted need not suppo

Re: raidtools2 -> mdadm change: woes and problems

2005-06-22 Thread Brian May
> "Martin" == Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martin> * Clemens Schwaighofer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-21 Martin> 14:44]: >> Are there any kind of documents describing how to move from >> raidtools safely to mdadm without loosing a raid? Martin> http://www

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 21 June 2005 01:46, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > You could help by listing the anti-spam measures that you consider to be >> > acceptable. Rejecting every suggestion for an i

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 22, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not just block mail sent to the packages.debian.org addresses? No-one > sends real mail to them anyway so they are just a free pass for spammers. Mainly because I do not know if I can do it without creating backscatter, and I will not /de

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Monday 20 June 2005 21:45, "Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, the major problem now are the @packages.debian.org addresses, I > have ~20 of them and most days they account for 1/3 to 1/2 of all the > spam I receive (and almost all of it could be blocked with the CBL). Why not j

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 01:46, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You could help by listing the anti-spam measures that you consider to be > > acceptable. Rejecting every suggestion for an improvement is not > > helpful. > > I am ok with

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 09:21, Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 05:58:11PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Rejecting every suggestion for an improvement is not helpful. > > Yes, it is, if every suggestion for "improvement" is a poor one. Lack > of good ideas does

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, June 22, 2005 10:25, James Troup wrote: > o be a donation, i.e. gratis. Debian can't pay for it's own hosting. I was wondering about this statement. Debian receives monetary donations and owns quite a lot of money - wouldn't paying for critical parts of infrastructure like ftpmaster be mo

Bug#315373: ITP: openvanilla -- An input method and output filter framework.

2005-06-22 Thread Tsung-Hsiang Chang
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Tsung-Hsiang Chang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: openvanilla Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : Lukhnos D. Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kang-ming Liu, Weizhong Yang, Tian-jian Jiang, Meng-juei Hsieh

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-22 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you think you could offer hosting under these conditions, please > send details to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't offer hosting, but I do have a suggestion (though perhaps it's already been considered and rejected). We could perhaps take advantage of the C

Re: setting up a pppoe server

2005-06-22 Thread Ivan Adams
you can use pptpd (poptop). But I prefer pppoe. The main thing is connectiong server to RADIUS (freeradius) server. This RADIUS can use MYSQL. You can use web scripts (PHP-using same MYSQL tables) to add users, set quote ... and everything you want. DO NOT use PAP authentication becouse passwords

Bug#315366: ITP: php-cache-lite -- PHP PEAR module for a lite cache system

2005-06-22 Thread Charles Fry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: php-cache-lite Version : 1.4.1 Upstream Author : Fabien Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Cache_Lite/ * License : LGPL Description : PHP PE

Bug#315368: ITP: php-pager -- PHP PEAR module for paging

2005-06-22 Thread Charles Fry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Fry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: php-pager Version : 2.3.2 Upstream Author : Lorenzo Alberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and Richard Heyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pear.php.net/package/Pager * License

Re: KDE apps up for adoption

2005-06-22 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mer 22 Juin 2005 02:52, Ben Burton a écrit : > Hi all, > > Since my spare time is not what it used to be, I have put a few KDE > apps up for adoption this morning: > > kdbg (#315336) -- graphical debugger interface > kprof (#315337) -- visual tool to help analyse profiling results > kbear