Re: Some bits of experience gained from handling upgrade-reports.

2005-06-09 Thread Stephen Birch
Bill Just out of curiosity, when testing the upgrade procedure how do you select the mix of packages installed prior to the upgrade? Steve Bill Allombert([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-09 22:53: > Hello Debian developers, > > [Please store this mail in a safe place and read it when you have > reco

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:04:20PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > >On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Adam Majer wrote: > >>Also, the testing seems to be now unfrozen except for base. Does the > >>base freeze have anything to do with the new C++ ABI? > >No, it's more a leftover of the freeze

Re: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/software/security/selinux.xhtml

2005-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005 00:20:31 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:42:00PM +0100, antoine wrote: >> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 20:20 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> > manoj, hi, >> > >> > i am delighted to see the above web page re:

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:08:08 +1200, Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 08/06/05, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [Nigel Jones] >> > if "coreutils" is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then >> > the user gets no choice... >> >> One think is depending on the librar

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >Hi folks, I have a noob question for you. I maintain the Cogito package >(my first), and it wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. The >GNU Interactive Tools package (git) also wants to install an executable >as /usr/bin/git. To avoid this conflict I made co

Re: namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-09 Thread Ben Finney
On 09-Jun-2005, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > The cogito /usr/bin/git is a tiny little helper script hardly worth > its inode, but it's in the upstream package and I dont want to > remove it or rename it. Care to expand on why you don't wish to rename or remove the conflicting Cogito file? It may h

Re: Keysigning without physically meeting ... thoughts?

2005-06-09 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ron Johnson dijo [Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 05:48:46AM -0500]: > > A while ago, in an IRC discussion, it was revealed that a notary in the > > US doesn't mean as much as it does in Europe. > > > > AIUI, in the US, a notary is just some extra title a lot of secretaries > > have, so that they can make so

Re: hijacking libhtml-mason-perl

2005-06-09 Thread Joshua Kwan
Hi Eric, Eric Dorland wrote: > I'm pretty interested in this package as well, and I'm willing to > sponsor you. I'm currently interning together with Charles, and it will probably be a fair bit more convenient for me to sponsor him instead. Thanks for offering, though. -- Joshua Kwan signatur

Re: Debian 3.1r0 CD/DVD image problem

2005-06-09 Thread Kenneth Stailey
--- Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Can't the remainder of the third DVD be filled up with multimedia > >> propoganda files or other fluff? > > Or 3vil planz for world domination? > If all elve fails fill it up with pr0n. ;) We have to uphold the maxim: Data Expands To Fill All Existi

Re: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/software/security/selinux.xhtml

2005-06-09 Thread antoine
> i was under the impression, from the above, that somehow > debian cannot run selinux/uml. I haven't tried selinux on my debian uml instances. > i was therefore recommending an alternative that is, by > comparison, just... okay: xen takes a source code download, > two kernel compiles, create

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Santiago Vila wrote: >On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Adam Majer wrote: > > > >>Also, the testing seems to be now unfrozen except for base. Does the >>base freeze have anything to do with the new C++ ABI? >> >> > >No, it's more a leftover of the freeze process. I asked Steve today >about this. He says b

Re: kernel security bug #307900

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > woody's kernels are vulnerable to CAN-2004-1235, a uselib() race > condition. > > Will this be fixed for Woody? > I thought the plan was to provide security support for Woody for > another year? AFAIK, there is no security support for Woody kernels for some time now.

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Bill Allombert wrote: >On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > >>The time frame of the C++ ABI changed is not yet fixed. We will >>certainly need some time to get the toolchain in shape to start the >>transition. In the meantime you can check the new compilers in >>

namespace conflict != package Conflict?

2005-06-09 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Hi folks, I have a noob question for you. I maintain the Cogito package (my first), and it wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. The GNU Interactive Tools package (git) also wants to install an executable as /usr/bin/git. To avoid this conflict I made cogito Conflict with git. I have

Re: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/software/security/selinux.xhtml

2005-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:42:00PM +0100, antoine wrote: > On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 20:20 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > manoj, hi, > > > > i am delighted to see the above web page re: selinux. > Err? never seen it before :) > > > > i notice you mention that there is an effort und

inconsistent newlines while configuring packages?

2005-06-09 Thread Justin Pryzby
After doing a recent dist-upgrade, I see: $ fg sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Setting up libgphoto2-2 (2.1.5-6) ... Setting up libgphoto2-port0 (2.1.5-6) ... Setting up libxv-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-13) ... Setting up libxi-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-13) ... Setting up g++-3.3 (3.3.5-13) ... Setting up g++-3.4 (3

Re: freetype package

2005-06-09 Thread Arne Götje (高盛華)
On Thursday 09 June 2005 21:42, Will Newton wrote: > This package hasn't had a maintainer upload in 12 months. It is > currently at version 2.1.7 whilst upstream is in the process of > releasing 2.1.10. These new releases include some quite critical > bugfixes and visual improvements. > > Is this p

Re: http://www.golden-gryphon.com/software/security/selinux.xhtml

2005-06-09 Thread antoine
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 20:20 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > manoj, hi, > > i am delighted to see the above web page re: selinux. Err? > > i notice you mention that there is an effort underway to make > a uml-selinux. > > perhaps i should mention that it is utterly trivial to set up

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Joey Hess
Andreas Gredler wrote: > Is there a way to handle this? Could a kernel be patched to read data > from multiple floppy disks? I know that this question sounds a little > bit stupid, but floppies still seem to be the most reliable way to boot. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/boot>ls -l vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-386 -rw-r

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Raphaël Pinson
Le Jeudi 9 Juin 2005 07:13, Marc Haber a écrit : > Hi, > > as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator > doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at > fault. "As we all know" ? I read Planet Debian on Akregator using the RSS and it works great ... What'

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Adam Majer wrote: > Also, the testing seems to be now unfrozen except for base. Does the > base freeze have anything to do with the new C++ ABI? No, it's more a leftover of the freeze process. I asked Steve today about this. He says base packages will be unfrozen again in a fe

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Marc Haber [Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:13:45 +0200]: > Hi, Hi, (cc'ing Mako, the current Planet Debian maintainer) > as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator > doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at > fault. > Does Debian have something like an "

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Andreas Gredler
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:24:12PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relatively short notice prior to etch > > release, so no need to worry about now. > > Relatively short notice of several months, even ignoring problems we > currently can't

Re: hijacking libhtml-mason-perl

2005-06-09 Thread Julian Mehnle
Charles Fry wrote: > [...] I have already packaged the new upstream release of > libhtml-mason-perl. Could you make the prepared package available for download in advance? That would be great! Julian. pgpUAPiI9FbmW.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: kernel security bug #307900

2005-06-09 Thread Olaf van der Spek
> woody's kernels are vulnerable to CAN-2004-1235, a uselib() race condition. Will this be fixed for Woody? I thought the plan was to provide security support for Woody for another year? -- Olaf van der Spek http://xccu.sf.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il giorno gio, 09-06-2005 alle 19:06 +0200, Frans Pop ha scritto: > On Thursday 09 June 2005 18:45, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Jun 09, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relatively short notice prior to > > > etch release, so no need to worry about

http://www.golden-gryphon.com/software/security/selinux.xhtml

2005-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
manoj, hi, i am delighted to see the above web page re: selinux. i notice you mention that there is an effort underway to make a uml-selinux. perhaps i should mention that it is utterly trivial to set up a xen system with a guest domain running pretty much any kind of kernel - including selinux

heeeeeaaaave! debian releases: the solution to windows viruses!

2005-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
uhhn... is it just me, or has the world's internet traffic just taken a major performance degradation over the past few days? roll up roll up, get yorr anti-virus sofwarz here - right from a debian mirror. all you have to do is get the debian developers to do _another_ major release. noo more pr

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:44:30PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, wrong. completely wrong. in the debian kernel builds (as arranged i believe by manoj), the default option for the selinux kernel module is "selinux=0". that

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Matthias Klose wrote: > We will send an update with a detailed schedule, when the toolchain is > ready for the change. I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused. Is unstable frozen *now*? If yes, is the toolchain being updated now? I'm assuming the change mostly involve moving gcc-defaults to poi

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
> "humberto" == Humberto Massa Guimarães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: humberto> * John Hasler :: >> Wouter Verhelst writes: > In practice, many third-party >> applications will make assumptions > about the availability and >> configuration of runlevels... >> >> Seems to

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 09, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, and it seems they have the maintainers interested in > maintaining 2.4. The main issue is not maintaining kernel images, but supporting them in other packages. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#312605: [SPAM?]: Bug#312605 acknowledged by developer (Re: Bug#312605: percent sign in debian package names)

2005-06-09 Thread Holger Klawitter
Hi Adam, > Of course not. Don't escape the filename when placing it into Packages.gz. > Use the unescaped form. As a low bandwidth user I was ending up "apt-get update"ing one host at a high bandwidth place and creating a mirror from the resulting apt-archive for further local distribution. I

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:24:12PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relatively short notice prior to etch > > release, so no need to worry about now. > Relatively short notice of several months, even ignoring problems we > currently can't s

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-09 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:45:42AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > What I've decided to do with X.Org is a compromise. I'm using the Ubuntu > > packages as a base, but I've spent the last month doing as careful an > > audit of them as I can, comparing them to the XFree86 packaging, and > > reverti

Bug#312700: ITP: kchmviewer -- chm viewer for KDE

2005-06-09 Thread Tommaso Moroni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tommaso Moroni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kchmviewer Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Georgy Yunaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://kchmviewer.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Description : chm viewer for K

Re: Vancouver prpopsal (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting John Goerzen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I am glad to have discussions take place at Debconf. In-person meetings > are a great way to brainstorm and reach some consensus. But I am wary > about decisions being reached there, or in IRC, or wherever only a > minority of Debian developers can par

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?Humberto_Massa_Guimar=E3es?=
* John Hasler :: > Wouter Verhelst writes: > > In practice, many third-party applications will make assumptions > > about the availability and configuration of runlevels... > > Seems to me that the most likely such assumption is that the > runlevels are Red Hat-like. IOW, the most likely assumpt

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Joey Hess
Adrian von Bidder wrote: > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relatively short notice prior to etch > release, so no need to worry about now. Relatively short notice of several months, even ignoring problems we currently can't solve such as 2.6 not fitting on floppies for the installer, at least.

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread John Hasler
Wouter Verhelst writes: > In practice, many third-party applications will make assumptions about > the availability and configuration of runlevels... Seems to me that the most likely such assumption is that the runlevels are Red Hat-like. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:36:25AM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > I'm sorry, this turned out to be very long-winded, but since many people > are interested in what's going on with X.Org, I may as well explain to a > larger audience than debian-x what's in store. Thanks for bringing concrete inform

Bug#312605: marked as done (percent sign in debian package names)

2005-06-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Processed: Re: Bug#312605: percent sign in debian package names

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Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Rich Walker may or may not have written... > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> How common was that problem you were trying to solve, again? > Presumably, you never used an S3 video card. > (Locks up on leaving X in many card/X permutations). IME (one S3 ViRGE), that's

Re: freetype package

2005-06-09 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
* Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-09 14:42:26 +0100]: > > This package hasn't had a maintainer upload in 12 months. It is currently at > version 2.1.7 whilst upstream is in the process of releasing 2.1.10. These > new releases include some quite critical bugfixes and visual improvement

Re: Bug#311997: ITP: gaim-latex -- gaim plugin wich translate LaTeX code into image in conversation

2005-06-09 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Nicolas Schoonbroodt wrote: > chdir("/tmp") > system("latex -interaction=nonstopmode " FILE_TEX) > system("dvips -o" FILE_PS " -E " FILE_DVI) > system("convert " FILE_PS " " FILE_PNG) > > and finaly a I do a > system("rm -rf /tmp/GaimTeX.*") somewhere This is still a security problem, this time

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 09 June 2005 18:45, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 09, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relatively short notice prior to > > etch release, so no need to worry about now. > > It would be too late, because at that time we would have wasted

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23.32, Roger Leigh wrote: > Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23:02, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> Existing installs are already configured with debconf. Their > >> /etc/locale.gen will not be touched. > >> > >> If you do dpkg-reconfigure locales,

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 09, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dropping 2.4 can easily be done on relatively short notice prior to etch > release, so no need to worry about now. It would be too late, because at that time we would have wasted a couple of years trying to support them. This kind of decis

Re: launchd and lookupd

2005-06-09 Thread muzzle
I really feel that Debian is all about freedom of choice. launchd is a great tool and you should be able to use it if you want to, so including it in Debian is a Good Idea, IMHO of course. You should not decide for _other_ people what will suit their needs. BTW someone could create a very interesti

Bug#312698: ITP: urlgrabber -- advanced URL grabbing package for python

2005-06-09 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: urlgrabber Version : 2.9.6 Upstream Author : Michael D. Stenner and Ryan Tomayko * URL : http://linux.duke.edu/projects/urlgrabber/ * License : LGPL Description

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 19.51, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 07, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In my wishlist there is NO support of 2.4 kernels > > > > Hmm. I've never verified this myself, however until recently it was > > often claimed that 2.6 is still quite a bit worse tha

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 07-Jun-05, 12:51 (CDT), Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 07, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In my wishlist there is NO support of 2.4 kernels > > Hmm. I've never verified this myself, however until recently it was often > > claimed that 2.6 is still quit

Processed: Re: Bug#312605: percent sign in debian package names

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Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:18:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 10:53 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > Now, that is why we have runlevel 1. But in most cases, wasting > > runlevels to things that could just as easily be fixed by ending the > > attempts to start is si

Re: problems with public keys

2005-06-09 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Adam, * Adam D. Barratt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-09 15:47]: > "Nico Golde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote, Wednesday, June 08, 2005 9:52 AM > > > My qa page http://qa.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > looks like this: > > General information for Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (click to > > collapse) >

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-09 Thread David Nusinow
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:07:11AM -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:12:02AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > I didn't say "always", but so far we have done this with every package > modified by Ubuntu. However, the situation with X.org seems quite different > to me, given your ex

Re: hijacking libhtml-mason-perl

2005-06-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Charles Fry: > I discussed the matter with Joshua Kwan, who recommended that I send > this email, asking whether or not it would be acceptable for me to > hijack the abandoned libhtml-mason-perl package. Don't forget to coordinate uploads with the request-tracker folks, for whom libhtml-mason-p

Re: Debian AMD64 Sarge released

2005-06-09 Thread Rafael Rodríguez
Any approximate time for that event? :) Rafael Rodríguez El Jueves, 9 de Junio de 2005 13:29, Joerg Jaspert escribió: >  We > will continue to track these two releases until AMD64 is in Debian

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-09 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > I didn't say "always", but so far we have done this with every package > modified by Ubuntu. However, the situation with X.org seems quite different > to me, given your explanation that the packages were created independently. My x.org example is somewhat theoretical, FWIW

Bug#312660: ITP: shish -- the diet shell

2005-06-09 Thread Michael Prokop
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Prokop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: shish Version : 0.7-pre3 Upstream Author : Roman Senn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.blah.ch/shish/ * License : GPL Description : the diet shell shish is a

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 12:54:06 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >On Jun 09, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator >> doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at >> fault. >Yes. The (former?) Pla

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread John Hasler
Frank Lenaerts writes: > The proposal however, indicates that a runlevel would be dedicated to > X. In my setup, this would mean that my application server would have to > run in this dedicated X runlevel because xdm happens to be started there. The proposal would do nothing to prevent you from co

Re: Vancouver prpopsal (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-09 Thread John Goerzen
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:05:17AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > By reading the Debconf5 participant list, I bet that much of these > will lead to heavy discussions at Debconf and you will have a lot of > opportunities to debate them. Just remind that one just cannot be as > rude in real life a

Bug#312662 submitter address changed (setting proper submitter)

2005-06-09 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
The submitter address recorded for your Bug report #312662: irssi: per-network recoding support would be nice has been changed. The new submitter address for this report is Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. This change was made by Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. If it was incorrect, please co

Re: freetype package

2005-06-09 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:42:26PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > > This package hasn't had a maintainer upload in 12 months. It is currently at > version 2.1.7 whilst upstream is in the process of releasing 2.1.10. These > new releases include some quite critical bugfixes and visual improvements.

freetype package

2005-06-09 Thread Will Newton
This package hasn't had a maintainer upload in 12 months. It is currently at version 2.1.7 whilst upstream is in the process of releasing 2.1.10. These new releases include some quite critical bugfixes and visual improvements. Is this package being actively maintained? I volunteer to help out w

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 13:21 +0200, Marco d'Itri a écrit : > On Jun 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Wrong. The problem is packages which need to interact with text files, > > > mail and usenet messages generated by broken software, and for which > > > assuming UTF-8 would

Re: irssi: per-network recoding support would be nice

2005-06-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 09, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd like too see recoding suport per IRC network, since I believe it's > a common use case scenario. Last time I checked (0.8.10-rc5), only > per-channel recoding was supported. You need the charsetwars script. -- ciao, Marco signatur

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 10:53 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > At the time, I would have appreciated the > > opportunity to bootup in a runlevel that wouldn't try to start up the X > > environment until I had fixed the issue. > > Now, that is why we have runlevel 1. But in most cases, wasting

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 17:43 +1200, Nigel Jones a écrit : > > Did you know that all Debian kernels now have SELinux compiled in? > Yeah, thankfully, I build my own kernels... It seems that for many people, building your own kernel is still considered as a proof of virility. Great. > >

irssi: per-network recoding support would be nice

2005-06-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
Package: irssi Severity: wishlist * David Pashley [Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:54:13 +0100]: > On Jun 09, 2005 at 09:09, Tollef Fog Heen praised the llamas by saying: > > * Christian Perrier > > | > Again, do not mess with cultures you do not understand. > > | Do you have real examples? > > IRC. An e

Re: CDBS and /usr/share/doc links

2005-06-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Andreas Tille [Thu, 09 Jun 2005 12:00:20 +0200]: > Or is there even a hook for doing exactly what I want: Link to the doc > directory > of a dependant package? I use this in amarok: common-binary-post-install-arch:: for p in $(filter-out amarok,$(DEB_ALL_PACKAGES)); do \

Re: CDBS and /usr/share/doc links

2005-06-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 12:00 +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : > Intended layout: > > $ ls -l `pwd`/debian/tipptrainer-data-*/usr/share/doc > /home/tillea/debian-maintain/packages/tipptrainer/tipptrainer-0.6.0/debian/tipptrainer-data-de/usr/share/doc: > lrwxr-xr-x 1 tillea admin 11 2005-06-09 10:55

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
Matt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 01:13:16AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > to find their own (sometimes flawed) solution to a very common problem. > > Years using Linux: 10. Idem here > > Times I've absolutely needed an X-less boot when an XDM was installed: 0. Mine: 30 o

Re: CDBS and /usr/share/doc links

2005-06-09 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Josselin Mouette wrote: I'm doing this with cdbs in libpng3, just have a look at this package. Basically I'm using dh_link to create the links, and I deactivated dh_installchangelogs and dh_installdocs for the packages that want the symbolic link. DEB_INSTALL_DOCS_foo :

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:54:06PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 09, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator > > doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at > > fault. > Yes. The (former?) Planet Deb

Re: Why apt-get is not a proper software search engine (was Re: And now for something completely different... etch!)

2005-06-09 Thread George Danchev
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23:44, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Debtags might not cut it either, but might be an improvement over a free > keyword search which ends up turing the wron packages just because they > have the word used in the query. A good search function could: > > - use keywo

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 08, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Wrong. The problem is packages which need to interact with text files, > >> > mail and usenet messages generated by broken software, and for which > >> > assuming UTF-8 would be totally wrong. > >> This is completely orthogonal to making UTF

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 09, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator > doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at > fault. Yes. The (former?) Planet Debian maintainer believes that aggregators should deal with malformed XML st

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 09, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wrong. The problem is packages which need to interact with text files, > > mail and usenet messages generated by broken software, and for which > > assuming UTF-8 would be totally wrong. > Please come up with real-life examples. Most mail

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Simon Huggins
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 06:22:15PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 02:18:28PM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: > > I think having a target date, even a target month for release, would > > help everyone and reduce the posts to -release lately where people > > have finally crawled

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Enrico Zini
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:41:09AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:13:00AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Jun 07, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - - The locale codeset should be UTF-8 for all new installs by default. > > FFS! When will people learn to not

CDBS and /usr/share/doc links

2005-06-09 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I wanted to switch to CDBS which makes the packaging awesome easy. One final problem was left for me when I tried to use implement the following multi binary package: Extract from control: Package: tipptrainer Architecture: any Depends: tipptrainer-data, ... ... Package: tipptrainer-data-d

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2005-06-09 kello 11:40 +0200, Pierre HABOUZIT kirjoitti: > AFAIK, it is a debianplanet bug since the source feeds it uses *are* > correctly escaped. I haven't bothered to investigate it often when the ampersand problem occurs, but on the couple of occasions I have, it has been a case of the

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-09 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:12:02AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > Without any clarification on your part, my interpretation remains unchanged. > > Ubuntu routinely imports all of the new code in the Debian archive, sorts > > out any necessary merging, and incorporates the chan

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:13:00AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 07, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > - - The locale codeset should be UTF-8 for all new installs by default. > FFS! When will people learn to not mess with other cultures they know > nothing about? > Feel free to ad

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Pierre HABOUZIT
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:13:45AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator > doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at > fault. > > Does Debian have something like an "xmltidy" program which can convert > the Pl

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 09 June 2005 09:59, Isaac Clerencia wrote: > I've read about this before, but I read Debian Panet with akregator > without any problem. ?? I use akregator too (1.0 beta 10) and every once in a while you get an icon indicating a feed cannot be read. Most of the time this will be fixed

Re: Canonical and Debian

2005-06-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:55:17AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 01:10:43PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > The primary question, I think, is whether one can be 100% sure whether a > > bug that results in an FTBFS on only one out of eleven platforms will > > not have any

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread David Pashley
On Jun 09, 2005 at 09:09, Tollef Fog Heen praised the llamas by saying: > * Christian Perrier > > | > Again, do not mess with cultures you do not understand. > | > | Do you have real examples? > > IRC. An example is the current irssi in Debian which doesn't do > recoding between different loca

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:58:32PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:34:26PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > Nobody. However, you're assuming that xdm et al will keep trying to > > start an X server, even if it fails. Luckily, the respective initscript

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Frank Lenaerts
on Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:30:26AM +0200, Wesley J. Landaker wrote about Re: And now for something completely different... etch!: > I don't often customize runlevels very much, but usually the first thing > I > do when I install a Debian system is remove all the xdm's from 2 and 3 > and > add th

Re: Vancouver prpopsal (was Re: Canonical and Debian)

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Perrier
> No, actually, at the time it was released it was presented as a fait > accompli. After it received a wide expression of distaste and disgust, That is your point of view and the way you read it. This is not the way I read it, so it's likely to be a matter of interpretation. > There has, to date

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Miros/law Baran
9.06.2005 pisze Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > | > Again, do not mess with cultures you do not understand. > | Do you have real examples? > IRC. An example is the current irssi in Debian which doesn't do > recoding between different locales. (And that is needed, since IRC > doesn't hav

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christian Perrier | > Again, do not mess with cultures you do not understand. | | Do you have real examples? IRC. An example is the current irssi in Debian which doesn't do recoding between different locales. (And that is needed, since IRC doesn't have a charset concept and there are still

Re: Planet Debian and Akregator

2005-06-09 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:13, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > as we all know, Planet Debian generates RSS feeds that Akregator > doesn't grok, and both packages point at the other one for being at > fault. > > Does Debian have something like an "xmltidy" program which can convert > the Planet Debian

Bug#312605: percent sign in debian package names

2005-06-09 Thread Holger Klawitter
Package: apt Package: general package management Version: up to 0.5.28.5 Hi there, I tried to put a collection of debian packages on a tomcat webserver along with a Packages.gz for easy retrieval via apt-get. However the retrieval does not work whenever a percent sign is part of the filename (a

LinuxTag conference: 2 free tickets available

2005-06-09 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello I have two free tickets for the LinuxTag in Karlsruhe / Germany this year, so if anybody wants to attend and has not yet got one, contact me. bye, -christian- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is Ubuntu a debian derivative or is it a fork?

2005-06-09 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This is a falacy, for example, I would never use any of these (IMHO > > useless at best and often damaging[1]) patch management systems (I know of > > two much better ones: subversion and arch), but this does not mean that I > > do not feed (and, as necessary, re-feed for

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