* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-19 17:43]:
> I agree that this might be a good idea. debian-wnpp is quite
> cluttered with all the control messages from the BTS.
>
> What do other people think of this? Do you want a shorter WNPP
> posting with only new entries on -devel?
FWIW, t
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"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> At this point, there seem to be quite a
> few people who agree that the FSF's stance ("copyright-based license")
> and the far-from-novel one that you advance ("unilateral license /
> donee beneficiaries") are untenable in the jurisdictions with w
On 5/19/05, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip arguments that might have been worthy of rebuttal on
debian-legal five months ago]
I'm not trying to be snotty about this, but if you want to engage in
the debate about the proper legal framework in which to understand the
GPL, I thi
* Wesley J. Landaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-19 18:08]:
> One suggestion might be to include both new entries, and entries
> that are about to be requested for removal. That seems like it might
> be useful. What do you think?
There isn't really a way to find out entries which are going to be
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Um, it is true that the rules for interpreting the meaning of licenses
>> are more or less the same as the rules for interpreting contracts. It
>> does not follow that licenses are therefore contracts.
>
> The words "license" and "contract" are
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On 5/19/05, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > An action for copyright
> > infringement, or any similar proceeding under droit d'auteur for
> > instance, will look at the GPL (like any other license agreement) only
> > through th
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Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 07:34:46PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
>> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 12:18:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> > The detection of binary NMUs is currently, among others, using the
>> > debian version of a package and
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"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> An action for copyright
> infringement, or any similar proceeding under droit d'auteur for
> instance, will look at the GPL (like any other license agreement) only
> through the lens of contract law. IANAL, TINLA. I don't believe you
> have succ
"Michael K. Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The FAQ is not merely an "interesting commentary" -- it is the
> published stance of the FSF, to which its General Counsel refers all
> inquiries. Although I am not legally qualified to judge, I believe
> that he can have no reasonable basis unde
Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> /bin/mount foo:whatever /bin
>
> I was considering commenting on this, I think if you want to start
> going down this track it would be simpler to write/adapt a script that
> automatically creates an initramfs.
Yes, this is surely true. When I had t
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> "Thomas" == Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Thomas> sbin is for things that should be in root's path. The
Thomas> executables in question are ones that shouldn't be in
Thomas> anyone's path. (The standard example is programs started
Thomas> only by inetd.)
On 5/19/05, Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps that is indeed what you would do. I don't consider lawyers to
> be the only persons capable of reading the law for themselves. They
> are the only ones authorized to offer certain forms of legal advice
> and legal representation,
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 07:34:46PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 12:18:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > The detection of binary NMUs is currently, among others, using the
> > debian version of a package and guessing from its form. What is a
> > binary NMU
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Hi Martin,
On Thursday 19 May 2005 10:28, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) is an important part of
> our infrastructure used to discuss packages to be added to the archive
> and, in particular, to look for new or additional maintainers for
> existing packages.
On 5/19/05, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip Raul's honest and polite response]
> I've been objecting to the nature of the generalizations you've been
> making. In other words, I see you asserting that things which are
> sometimes true must always be true.
>
> In the case of the "cont
On 5/19/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://web.archive.org/web/20041130014304/http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
> http://web.archive.org/web/20041105024302/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
Thanks, Roberto. The (moderately) explicit bit I had in mind is in
> > For the record, I disagree that this faq is "patently false".
> >
> > It is, in places, a bit simplistic, but I wouldn't advise anyone
> > delve into those fine points of law unless they've retained
> > the services of a lawyer (at which point the FAQ is merely
> > an interesting commentary --
* Igor Stroh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-20 01:18]:
> >Has there been any agreement about what to do with cantus and cantus3?
> >Since you're the maintainer of cantus3 and you suggest it's removal,
> >can you go ahead and file a bug report on ftp.d.o?
>
> I don't like the idea of removing cantus3
Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Igor Stroh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-06 22:10]:
From what I can tell, cantus3 doesn't actually provide all of the
functionality originally present in cantus.
And it won't either -- the upstream is unresponsive and seems to
have no interest neither in incorporating bug f
Michael K. Edwards wrote:
> not. Does anyone happen to have a six-month-old copy of the FSF FAQ?
>
>From 11-2004:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041130014304/http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20041105024302/http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
-Roberto
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On 5/19/05, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > For the record, I disagree that this faq is "patently false".
> > >
> > > It is, in places, a bit simplistic, but I wouldn't advise anyone
> > > delve into those fine points of law unless they've retained
> > > the services of a lawyer (at wh
On Thu, 19 May 2005 11:58:47 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Did the move change anything?
No:
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On 5/19/05, Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The GPL is anomalous in that the drafter has published a widely
> believed, but patently false, set of claims about its legal basis in
> the "FSF FAQ".
For the record, I disagree that this faq is "patently false".
It is, in places, a bi
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| > How about posting the announcements to -devel (instead of -d-a)? If
| > only new entries are included, it wouldn't hurt much for those who are
| > not interested.
|
| I'd like to see them continue on -d-a. There are times when I just
| can't handle -devel and unsub completel
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Anthony Towns [Thu, 19 May 2005 15:38:11 +1000]:
>> Adeodato Simó wrote:
>> > As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source
>> > field if the name of the source package is different from the name of
>> > the binary package be
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 05:28:50PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) is an important part of
> our infrastructure used to discuss packages to be added to the archive
> and, in particular, to look for new or additional maintainers for
> existing packages.
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 17:43 +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-19 18:40]:
> > How about posting the announcements to -devel (instead of -d-a)? If
> > only new entries are included, it wouldn't hurt much for those who
> > are not interested.
>
> I agree t
On 5/19/05, Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/19/05, Michael K. Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The GPL is anomalous in that the drafter has published a widely
> > believed, but patently false, set of claims about its legal basis in
> > the "FSF FAQ".
>
> For the record, I disag
On 5/18/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Point taken. However, the GPL clearly states the conditions in
> section 6:
>
> 6. Each time you redistribute the Program (or any work based on the
> Program), the recipient automatically receives a license from the
> original licensor
Hi,
On Thursday 19 May 2005 18:43, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> What do other people think of this? Do you want a shorter WNPP
> posting with only new entries on -devel?
less frequent, maybe every four weeks ? i've got wnpp-alert in my cron for
weekly mails - if people reaaally care, they can put
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[1st RC issue - dpkg removes symlinks when upgrading from 3.23]
As discussed before in some corner cases we can do nothing except
for showing the user an explanation what happened which has been
done in 4.1.11a-2 and 4.0.24-10.
[2nd RC issue - statically linked db3]
> The new bug #30896
On Wednesday 18 May 2005 02:47, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Is there a difference in packages removed if you run "aptitude install
> aptitude" instead of "aptitude install aptitude dpkg"? I don't see any
> reason why dpkg needs to be upgraded first, unlike aptitude.
No, makes no real difference. I st
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On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 12:18:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> The detection of binary NMUs is currently, among others, using the
> debian version of a package and guessing from its form. What is a
> binary NMU and what not is not aparent from the Packages file. It has
> been suggested to
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 18:40 +0200, Christoph Berg wrote:
> I always read the announcements to look for O or RFAs of packages I
> use, hence I appreciate the "only new entries" change.
Same here.
> However, from
> browsing the debian-wnpp archives, there's a lot more stuff there than
> I'm willing
* Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-19 18:40]:
> How about posting the announcements to -devel (instead of -d-a)? If
> only new entries are included, it wouldn't hurt much for those who
> are not interested.
I agree that this might be a good idea. debian-wnpp is quite
cluttered with all
Re: Martin Michlmayr in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have therefore decided to stop the weekly WNPP summaries to d-d-a
> and instead do the following:
>
> - send the weekly posting to debian-wnpp instead of d-d-a
>
> - only include new entries
I always read the announcements to look for O or RFAs o
* Anthony Towns [Thu, 19 May 2005 15:38:11 +1000]:
> Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source
> > field if the name of the source package is different from the name of
> > the binary package being described. This is an inconsistency that make
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 05:08:28PM +0200, GOMBAS Gabor wrote:
> On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 02:49:13AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > 3 does not sound so bad to me; it's arguably user error anyway to replace a
> > package-provided directory with a symlink in this manner
> If you consider this an us
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 02:49:13AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> 3 does not sound so bad to me; it's arguably user error anyway to replace a
> package-provided directory with a symlink in this manner
If you consider this an user error, then what is the officially blessed
way of relocating a pack
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David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It does not appear to be available under a DFSG-compatible license. ;)
> Even though the Song That Shall Not Be Named seems ancient, it's
> really only about 50 years old and still under copyright.
Tabs are not in
On Thursday 19 May 2005 13:24, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>
> anyone interested?
>
> > > 2. Erlang -- Concurrent programming language
> > > 3. erlang-doc-html -- HTML documentation for Erlang.
> > > 4. erlang-manpages -- Manpages for Erlang.
These are taken by François-Denis Gonthier.
> > > 5. w
[David Weinehall]
> Ehrm, I don't think having /usr/lib on a fat FS is an option anyway,
> considering its lacking file ownership/permission support and its
> filename munging...
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* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-03 14:54]:
> I intend to ask for removal of the following packages in the next
> few days unless someone is willing to step up as maintainer. All of
> these packages have been orphaned for over 60 days and have never
> been part of a stable release;
* Igor Stroh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-06 22:10]:
> >>From what I can tell, cantus3 doesn't actually provide all of the
> > functionality originally present in cantus.
>
> And it won't either -- the upstream is unresponsive and seems to
> have no interest neither in incorporating bug fixes nor
* Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-04 22:29]:
> Brent Fulgham has decided to give some packages away (mostly Erlang
> and Dylan related packages but also some others); the following
> mail is forwarded with permission from debian-private:
anyone interested?
> > 2. Erlang -- Concurre
Hello
On 2005-05-19 Steve Langasek wrote:
...
> > so we've come up with three options, none of which are great:
>
> > 1 the most recenty woody security update caused problems for some
> > people, and there's a package already waiting to go in to fix this
> > problem. we could put a fix into
On Thu, May 19, 2005 at 11:47:31AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
[snip]
> But the problem remains that you have to look at each dire entry in
> unhashed ext2/3, fat or minix.
Ehrm, I don't think having /usr/lib on a fat FS is an option anyway,
considering its lacking file ownership/permissio
Anthony Towns writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> The detection of binary NMUs is currently, among others, using the
>> debian version of a package and guessing from its form. What is a
>> binary NMU and what not is not aparent from the Packages file. It has
>> been suggested to insert Sourc
On 20050519T205101+1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Something equivalent to:
>
> cat /var/lib/dpkg/available |
> awk '/^Package:/ {P=$2;V=""}
> /^Version:/ {if (V=="") { V=$2; } }
> /^Source: .* (.*)/ {V=substr($3,2,length($3)-2)}
> /^Source:/ {P=$2}
> /^$/ {
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
The detection of binary NMUs is currently, among others, using the
debian version of a package and guessing from its form. What is a
binary NMU and what not is not aparent from the Packages file. It has
been suggested to insert Source: entries pointing to the original
so
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source
field if the name of the source package is different from the name of
the binary package being described.
Why not add a patch to grep-dctrl instead?
What patch would that be?
Something equivalent to:
> If it where used I would suggest replacing it with
> #include "/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL" (or a file inside the source)
> and patch to make it use plain text instead of crypted data.
Yep in fact it was used as it said, by using the -L switch for both wastesrv
and the admin command
wastes
Anthony Towns writes:
> Adeodato Simó wrote:
>> As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source
>> field if the name of the source package is different from the name of
>> the binary package being described. This is an inconsistency that makes
>> it a bit harder to m
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 14 May 2005 22:06:42 +0200, Martin Mewes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>>> So I need to ask here whether it would be a better idea to move
>>> mailing lists away from obviously broken, unmaintained and
>>> unsup
"Wesley J. Landaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Friday 13 May 2005 06:30, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
>> On Fri, May 13, 2005 at 02:20:02PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote:
>> > http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/waste/waste/license.cpp?rev=1.1&v
>> >iew=auto
>>
>> Has it ever occured to you
Hi Sean,
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 11:23:35AM -0400, sean finney wrote:
> the following upgrade paths work:
> mysql-server/woody -> mysql-server/sarge
> mysql-server/woody -> mysql-server/sarge -> mysql-server-4.1/sarge
> but this does not:
> mysql-server/woody -> mysql-server-4.1/sarge
> so at
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le jeudi 12 mai 2005 à 18:32 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG a écrit :
>> > You said it: there is a cache. After the first access, the directory
>> > will be in the cache. Making all of this a purely imaginary problem.
>>
>> The whole directory is in the
On 20050519T153811+1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > As you probably know, entries in the Packages file only have a Source
> > field if the name of the source package is different from the name of
> > the binary package being described. This is an inconsistency that makes
> >
* Bernd Eckenfels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050517 03:35]:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> >2. change the /etc/apt/sources.list to point to "stable"
> I wish all documentation is using the distribution names not the symbolic
> names. If you put "stable" in a file this will cause major
On Wednesday 18 of May 2005 17:23, sean finney wrote:
> - people often symlink the mysql datadir (/var/lib/mysql) and logdir
> (/var/log/mysql) to somewhere else, such as /usr/local
> - because these two directories are in the files.list of woody's
> mysql server, upgrading to packages in sarge
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rely on other packages to supply source or prebuild binaries. The
handling of those packages is inconsisten across the various packages
and, every now and
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