Re: intend-to-implement: script to obtain Debian Source

2005-04-10 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > | I second suggestion given at #250202 and like to see "unpacked" and > > | "patched" targets to hit Policy 4.8. > > > > If so, it should be «unpack» and «patch» to match the build and > > install targets. > > Note that there are existing packages that use 'unpack' and 'patch' > targets

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: There are a lot differences between linda and lintian, especially the programming language. A very important difference. This might result in several further applications doing the very same job (more or less) for several other programming languages (Rub

Re: duplicate functionality in packages [was: lintian & linda]

2005-04-10 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:33:24PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: [mjp: I sure didn't write this, but that's how it's been attributed...] > > Whenever someone submits an ITP for the software A, whose functionality > > is already provided in Debian by B, t

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sometimes there is the case that major design decisions are > too different from the original source so there is no other > way. but is this the case with lintian and linda? Yes. linda is written in Python and lintian in Perl. That's a major difference and

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Hi Bernd, * [ 10-04-05 - 23:33 ] Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot differences between linda and lintian, especially the > programming language. We would like to know which are these differences. :) Nico's original question was "why are there linda and lintian?". ht

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 16:30 (CDT), Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see plenty : I have a mini daemon on one of my accounts that I really > need. but since I'm not root on the machine, I need to be able to use > @reboot to restart No you don't. See my reply to Wesley. Steve -- Steve

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 14:24 (CDT), "Wesley J. Landaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know, that's not accessible to users, only the admin. OTOH, I can't > > think of any really good reason that user needs to do something > > *automatically* on reboot. > > Perhaps user-run services? So run a script e

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Sure, but only if two projects have at least some differences; in 'The > Cathedral and the Bazaar' popclient becomes fetchmail. There are a lot differences between linda and lintian, especially the programming language. Which is if course a big point if

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:26:43PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Sure, but only if two projects have at least some differences; in 'The > > Cathedral and the Bazaar' popclient becomes fetchmail. > > > > Whenever someone submits an ITP for the software A, whose functionality > > is already provided

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> I know, that's not accessible to users, only the admin. OTOH, I can't > think of any really good reason that user needs to do something > *automatically* on reboot. I see plenty : I have a mini daemon on one of my accounts that I really need. but since I'm not root on the machine, I need to be

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Emanuele, * Emanuele Rocca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-10 23:01]: > * [ 10-04-05 - 20:28 ] Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > Ok thats a reason. But why not merge these projects now? I > > > really recommend this because in my

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Bernd, * Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-10 22:17]: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Ok thats a reason. But why not merge these projects now? I > > really recommend this because in my opinion this are two > > projects which do the same job twice which is in my eye

Re: Accepted 855resolution 0.3-4 (i386 source)

2005-04-10 Thread Aurelien Jarno
> Changes: > 855resolution (0.3-4) unstable; urgency=low > . >* Add kfreebsd-i386 for supported architecture. > (from Aurelien's request) Thanks ! -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian GNU/Linux developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' [EMAIL PR

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Emanuele Rocca
Hi Bernd, * [ 10-04-05 - 20:28 ] Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Ok thats a reason. But why not merge these projects now? I > > really recommend this because in my opinion this are two > > projects which do the same job twice which is

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Sunday 10 April 2005 12:08, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > > > significantly easier than

Re: lintian & linda

2005-04-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Ok thats a reason. But why not merge these projects now? I > really recommend this because in my opinion this are two > projects which do the same job twice which is in my eyes > contraproductive. Actually that is how open source works. I often also feel

Re: acenic firmware rewrite

2005-04-10 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > As long as they don't copy any protected code you'll be fine. Wouter Verhelst writes: > That's the problem, I'm afraid. It's not unlikely that you'll have this > 'great idea' which in reality is something you remember from reading the > original source, but not remembering that this is

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-05, 10:55 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > > significantly easier than "0 0 * * *" but apparently some people get all > > sweaty

Re: acenic firmware rewrite

2005-04-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 12:44:00PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Peter 'p2' De Schrijver writes: > > Or do you think it would be ok if the same people read the existing > > non-free sources and reimplement its functionality in a new free > > firmware? > > As long as they don't copy any protected cod

Re: lintian & linda (was: Automatic testing of Debian packages)

2005-04-10 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Emanuele, * Emanuele Rocca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-10 19:21]: > * [ 08-04-05 - 15:38 ] Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is another thing that I don't understand often. Why > > are there linda and lintian? > > In my opinion this makes things difficulter. Both have to >

Re: acenic firmware rewrite

2005-04-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 07:26:09PM +0200, Peter 'p2' De Schrijver wrote: > Sure. That's ok. I was more thinking of someone reading the existing > firmware sources, writing a spec and a second person/group implementing > the new free firmware based on the spec. AFAICS the implementors and the > spec

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-10 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Apr 8, 2005 12:05 AM, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Expect people to whine. I personally don't see why "@daily" is > significantly easier than "0 0 * * *" but apparently some people get all > sweaty if they have to type an asterisk. what about the "@reboot" extension? I think th

Re: openswan 2.3.1 is now available - Call for Help

2005-04-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Hi Yas, Am Sonntag, 10. April 2005 15:57 schrieb Yaacov Akiba Slama: > openswan 2.2.0-4 still crashes when using 2.3.1 (your package from > http://www.gibraltar.at/~rene/openswan/) as roadwarrior. Yes, I have also noticed that and can currently reproduce it here on my system. I have already bomba

Re: lintian & linda (was: Automatic testing of Debian packages)

2005-04-10 Thread Emanuele Rocca
* [ 08-04-05 - 15:38 ] Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is another thing that I don't understand often. Why > are there linda and lintian? > In my opinion this makes things difficulter. Both have to > coordinate themselves and keep their policy rules up to > date. [...] > The on

Re: Why do we still have this on the distribution?

2005-04-10 Thread Roger Lynn
Martin Schulze wrote: > FWIW: This would mean to remove all of Mozilla and friends, since they > don't receive any security support upstream, and neither the maintainer > or the security team are in a position to backport all fixes and correcte > all stuff in the older versions. (upstream does onl

Upload of new stuff to unstable

2005-04-10 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello, I renamed libtagcoll-dev to libtagcoll1-dev and libdebtags-dev to libdebtags1-dev, and I'm considering uploading to unstable in a day or two: - it's too late for it to go in sid (good!) - it doesn't break existing stuff (it's a new package) - I can upload improved debtags and debtags-ed

Re: openswan 2.3.1 is now available - Call for Help

2005-04-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Am Sonntag, 10. April 2005 06:59 schrieb Paul TBBle Hampson: > I just tried openswan-modules-source under 2.6.10 with make-kpkg, and it > installed > /lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o > instead of > /lib/modules/2.6.10/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.ko Thanks for the hint - I have fixed a type a

Re: Bug#303986: ITP: soundconverter -- convert sound files to other formats

2005-04-10 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello > * Package name: soundconverter > Version : 0.7.1 > Upstream Author : Gautier Portet > * URL : http://soundconverter.berlios.de/ > * License : GPL v2 > Description : convert sound files to other formats What about "converts between different sound

Re: Automatic testing of Debian packages

2005-04-10 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hello When it comes to testing you have to ask yourself what you want to test. We have a couple of different types of tests: * Component test: Tests if a program component (object, function etc) is working as specified. Normally this kind of tests are implemented in the same programming la

Bug#303986: ITP: soundconverter -- convert sound files to other formats

2005-04-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: soundconverter Version : 0.7.1 Upstream Author : Gautier Portet * URL : http://soundconverter.berlios.de/ * License : GPL v2 Description : convert sound files to ot