Re: splitting a source package into 2 source packages

2005-03-02 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 10:04:03PM +0200, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote: > > istr the same thing, and was thinking that this might be the case. > > since i don't suppose the ftp-master __ are going to come out > > of hiding just to answer this question, i guess i'll upload, find out, > > a

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Henning Glawe
On Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 10:16:53PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command line > > > length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place. > > > > > > This will be fixed once dpkg is librarified. > > > > Er, no, it won't. > > > > That part o

Info and statistics about the project

2005-03-02 Thread Maykel Moya
Don't know whether the appropiate list for this post should be debian-users or this. March 25, a Congress of Free Software will take place at UCI, here in Cuba. I'd been preparing myself to give a talk about the Debian Project. Have found tons of info disgregated across the net. But, particularil

Re: resources for packaging

2005-03-02 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > I was looking for a more generic approach, I guess. One that breaks down > the basic concepts, caveats, concerns, etc. Looking at it now, I realize > Free Software and commercial software will have different emphasises, even > at this level. For one

RE: resources for packaging

2005-03-02 Thread Gilbert, Joseph
> > I take it from your "exporting our code" statement that your software > will be Free Software? (It makes a difference because your packaging > strategy will be different depending on whether or not the software is > com > > -- > Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Physics Department > WWW:

Re: resources for packaging

2005-03-02 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Gilbert, Joseph wrote: > We are looking at now exporting our code and making it useful to a wider > client base. This obviously will mean that the software packages will have > to be built as .deb, .rpms, tarballs and whatever else will be needed. I > have been told that I will likely be respons

Re: Problems with - and ' in some man-pages

2005-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 12:11:16AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ke, 2005-03-02 kello 22:45 +0100, Bernd Eckenfels kirjoitti: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > Unicode. If people want to use Unicode, this is fine; > > > Unicode and utf-8 exist to be used, after all. However, >

Re: resources for packaging

2005-03-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 15:19 -0800, Gilbert, Joseph wrote: > Hi guys, > > I work for a software company that up until now has developed software, > mostly written in Java, that is deployed inhouse to servers that are > administering internally. > > We are looking at now exporting our code and maki

resources for packaging

2005-03-02 Thread Gilbert, Joseph
Hi guys, I work for a software company that up until now has developed software, mostly written in Java, that is deployed inhouse to servers that are administering internally. We are looking at now exporting our code and making it useful to a wider client base. This obviously will mean that the

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-03-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:20:29PM -0500, Brendan wrote: > On Friday 25 February 2005 05:39 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software,

Re: Bug#297606: ITP: unionfs -- Stackable Unification File System

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 04:42:15PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Paul Hampson [Wed, Mar 02 2005, 08:05:14PM]: > > > I've used this, but briefly, in NetBSD. So maybe I'm missing something > > > when I ask: how is this different from "mount --bind" in kernels 2.4 and > > > up? > It

Re: Problems with - and ' in some man-pages

2005-03-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2005-03-02 kello 22:45 +0100, Bernd Eckenfels kirjoitti: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Unicode. If people want to use Unicode, this is fine; > > Unicode and utf-8 exist to be used, after all. However, > > restricted character sets (mainly ascii and Latin-1) > > offer several

Re: Problems with - and ' in some man-pages

2005-03-02 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Unicode. If people want to use Unicode, this is fine; > Unicode and utf-8 exist to be used, after all. However, > restricted character sets (mainly ascii and Latin-1) > offer several real practical benefits I dont think it is fine to use the wrong char

Re: fftw3 non-pic k7 optimisations

2005-03-02 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 07:25:00PM +, Paul Brossier wrote: > On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 05:16:50PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Paul Brossier: > > > > > Two questions: > > > - can anyone spot what in these codelets causes the non-pic ? > > > > Tables of constants are addressed directly, n

RE: Problems with - and ' in some man-pages

2005-03-02 Thread Julian Mehnle
Thaddeus H. Black wrote: > Eric Lavarde writes, > > in some man pages ... the dashes and single quotes are > > not really what they look like, but some other unicode > > letter. This has two major drawbacks: > > - search for options become nearly impossible > > ... > > You illustrate well the fund

Re: Problems with - and ' in some man-pages

2005-03-02 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
Eric Lavarde writes, > in some man pages ... the dashes and single quotes are > not really what they look like, but some other unicode > letter. This has two major drawbacks: > - search for options become nearly impossible > ... You illustrate well the fundamental problem with indiscriminate us

Re: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache

2005-03-02 Thread Adam Conrad
Theodore Ts'o said: > > My system (currently running unstable, but it from the your description > it sounds like it may be happening on sarge as well) has an > apache2/mysql/php4 combination which blows up the moment you try to open > a connection to a mysql database. Are you sure you're note expe

Re: fftw3 non-pic k7 optimisations

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Brossier
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 05:16:50PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Paul Brossier: > > > Two questions: > > - can anyone spot what in these codelets causes the non-pic ? > > Tables of constants are addressed directly, not in some IP-relative > way. thanks, i thought this could be sort of a prob

Re: Example for use of dh_strip --dbg-package=... and CDBS?

2005-03-02 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
fltk1.1 does this. Here's its rules file: #!/usr/bin/make -f include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/buildcore.mk include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/autotools.mk include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk # The original definition also includes -fno-exceptions, which we # might as well punt so that throw

Re: mplayer, the time has come

2005-03-02 Thread Brendan
On Friday 25 February 2005 05:39 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 10:36 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Feb 25, giskard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > many people who I know, especially artists who use free software, often > > > use the reproduction in ascii art (new kind of art).

Re: Example for use of dh_strip --dbg-package=... and CDBS?

2005-03-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 02 mars 2005 Ã 19:35 +0100, W. Borgert a Ãcrit : > Hi, > > are there any CDBS based packages using dh_strip with the > --dbg-package option? I tried, but no /usr/lib/debug/ > directory is created. I'm using debhelper 4.2.30 with > cdbs 0.4.26-1.1. Many thanks in advance! I'm using

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-05, 07:55 (CST), Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would be nice for occasional no-X booting, e.g. for debugging. But > then there's still single user mode for that, so "wasting" a whole > runlevel for it doesn't seem so useful. The "nox" boot parameter seems > much less int

Re: I/O hardware, control of external transistors

2005-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-05, 11:32 (CST), jim stockford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We want software control over three different transistors > (screwed to the inside of the case). >We're having trouble figuring out what features (in the > kernel, or device drivers, or external commands, or some > packag

Example for use of dh_strip --dbg-package=... and CDBS?

2005-03-02 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, are there any CDBS based packages using dh_strip with the --dbg-package option? I tried, but no /usr/lib/debug/ directory is created. I'm using debhelper 4.2.30 with cdbs 0.4.26-1.1. Many thanks in advance! Cheers, WB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsu

I/O hardware, control of external transistors

2005-03-02 Thread jim stockford
Hiya, I'm with a team building custom PC 104 form factor, low power computers for remote locations. The CPU is Pentium II class, the OS is Debian Linux. We want software control over three different transistors (screwed to the inside of the case). We're having trouble figuring out what fea

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Er, hardly. libdpkg will contain *extremely* low-level stuff. > Reading/writing debs(ar/tar/gzip/bzip/checksum stuff). It won't contain > higher-level anything. The active development seems to disagree with you... -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 09:59 -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > Er, hardly. libdpkg will contain *extremely* low-level stuff. > Reading/writing debs(ar/tar/gzip/bzip/checksum stuff). > No, that's in libdeb (or libdpkg-deb, haven't quite decided the name of it, yet). If you'd bothered to pay any attentio

Re: fftw3 non-pic k7 optimisations

2005-03-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Paul Brossier: > Two questions: > - can anyone spot what in these codelets causes the non-pic ? Tables of constants are addressed directly, not in some IP-relative way. > - how much can it hurt to have this non-pic in fftw3 ? It shouldn't matter much if all PIC code is grouped together in t

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Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? > Easy enough for me in my system. It would be nice to have a standard way > of telling the system to not start X on any Debian system while keeping > X start up being the default without the

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Adam Heath > > | On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | > | > apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command > | > line length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place. > | > > | > This will be fixed once dpkg is librarif

Re: Bug#297606: ITP: unionfs -- Stackable Unification File System

2005-03-02 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Paul Hampson [Wed, Mar 02 2005, 08:05:14PM]: > > I've used this, but briefly, in NetBSD. So maybe I'm missing something > > when I ask: how is this different from "mount --bind" in kernels 2.4 and up? It is different. --bind does only 1:1 copy (files are written to the source dire

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Tim Cutts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2 Mar 2005, at 2:58 pm, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: [No need to CC me, I'm on the list] Em Qua, 2005-03-02 às 07:06 +0100, Michael Koch escreveu: I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say "don't start X", too, although most times I do w

fftw3 non-pic k7 optimisations

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Brossier
Hi all, I am trying to get rid of fftw3 non position independant code brought on i386 by the --enable-k7 configure flag. As dropping these K7 optimisations gets rid of the non-pic, the problem seems to lie in dft/k7/codelets/, which are generated by ocaml scripts found in genfft-k7/. Two question

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 12:13 -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > * Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho > > > > | On 20050228T204520+, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > | > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 09:49:41PM +0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > > | > > On 20050228T164806+0

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
[No need to CC me, I'm on the list] Em Qua, 2005-03-02 Ãs 07:06 +0100, Michael Koch escreveu: > > I like the idea. I sometimes miss an easy way to say "don't start X", > > too, although most times I do want it to run. > > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? Easy enough for me in

Re: Bug#297637: ITP: html2latex -- HTML to LaTeX conversor

2005-03-02 Thread Antonio S. de A. Terceiro
Christoph Berg escreveu isso aí: > Re: y in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi "y", > > please use your real name to report bugs, *especially* wnpp bugs. It > feels very strange to imagine "y" maintaining Debian packages... Hi, I

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Michael Koch
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:45:26PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? > > Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead > or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Read th

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Olaf Conradi
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:53:30 +0100, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Christoph Berg > > | Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? > | > | Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead > | or else they w

Re: Bug#297637: ITP: html2latex -- HTML to LaTeX conversor

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: y in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi "y", please use your real name to report bugs, *especially* wnpp bugs. It feels very strange to imagine "y" maintaining Debian packages... Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Sean Perry in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >What would people think about adding a check on all the *dm managers (read > >kdm, gdm and friends) about cheking the kernel command line from > >/proc/cmdline > >and grep for nox? Would be neat :) > Should be easy for you to do locally and since the init

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Christoph Berg | Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? | | Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead | or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Removing just a single link is fine. They will only

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-02 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Michael Koch in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > is "rm /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm" not easy enough for you ? Please don't recommend rm'ing the S* links. Rename them to K* instead or else they will be recreated on the next upgrade. Christoph -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.df7cb.de/ signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Bug#297629: ITP: gallery2 -- web-based photo album written in PHP

2005-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Michael Schultheiss | There are upgrade paths from G1 to G2 but G2 is currently in alpha, soon | to be beta. I wouldn't want to replace the current G1 package with G2 | until G2 goes golden. Uploading to experimental sounds like a good idea, then. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: eleventh-hour transition for mysql-using packages related to apache

2005-03-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 05:03:26AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > As a result, in spite of the timing wrt the release, I'm proposing a > transition to libmysqlclient12 for a number of packages for sarge. The > packages listed below are those packages currently in sarge which either are > broken wi

PHP thread safety

2005-03-02 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
Hi. Some time ago php4 packages enabled thread safety feature. I did the same for php5 packages. Now, I'm little confused after I've benchmarked php5 with zts and non-zts option: The tests was made with apache2-prefork. The scripts were trivial 99bottles from well-known site and benchmarks/for

Bug#297688: ITP: libsmack-java -- An Open Source XMPP client library for instant messaging and presence

2005-03-02 Thread Jan Alonzo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Alonzo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsmack-java Version : 1.4.1 Upstream Author : Jive Software * URL : http://www.jivesoftware.org/smack/ * License : Apache License (v2.0) Desc

Re: ClearLooks theme availability for Debian GNOME

2005-03-02 Thread Miles Bader
Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For the record it isn't going to be the default, but the engine itself > is a contender. So what are they gonna change (for the default)? -Miles -- P.S. All information contained in the above letter is false, for reasons of military security. --

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050301T195602+0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Well, but why should a self-dependency be ever necessary? A self-dependency is an oxymoron, since a package cannot be simultaneously unconfigured and configured. For that reason, a self-dependency is always a no-op (as I wrote earlier, it is harmless

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20050301T144403+, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 20050301T122452+0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > >> apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command line > >> length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place. > > > I'

Re: Bug#297606: ITP: unionfs -- Stackable Unification File System

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Hampson
On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 09:48:52AM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Mar/01, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > unionfs is a Linux kernel driver that provides a unification file system > > which can appear to merge the contents of several directories > > (branches), while keeping their physical conte

Re: self-depending packages

2005-03-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Adam Heath | On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | | > apt invokes dpkg on the command line and due to maximum command | > line length it sometimes is split in an unfortunate place. | > | > This will be fixed once dpkg is librarified. | | Er, no, it won't. Please follow my mail-follow

Re: Bug#297606: ITP: unionfs -- Stackable Unification File System

2005-03-02 Thread Roberto Suarez Soto
On Mar/01, Eduard Bloch wrote: > unionfs is a Linux kernel driver that provides a unification file system > which can appear to merge the contents of several directories > (branches), while keeping their physical content separate. I've used this, but briefly, in NetBSD. So maybe I'm mi

Re: Bug#297233: ITP: wmansied -- An ANSI/ASCII editor.

2005-03-02 Thread Paul Hampson
On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 06:11:51PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 21:28 +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > "Nelson A. de Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > WMAnsiEd is an ANSI editor with functions like line drawing, e

Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2005

2005-03-02 Thread Igor Genibel
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