Re: murphy is listed on spamcop

2005-01-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Any anti-spam measure that gets any large portion of the spam will have some > false positives. What is this, "you go to war with the army you have, not the army you want"? Thomas

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The parsimonious explanation is that the issue wasn't thought about in > that much detail when the social contract was written. The archives tend > to support this. The obvious thing to do here is not to attempt to find > a way that we can interpret th

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 01:27:21AM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: > Some Alpha systems (I forgot which) came with only the inferior > AlphaBIOS installed in flash. Later, an SRM version for this system > was released, and installing this is generally considered a good > thing. These firmwares r

Re: dependancy issues

2005-01-01 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 05:07:42PM -0800, Carl B. Constantine wrote: > I'm trying to trim my system a little bit. I wanted to purge Evolution > from my system since I use Mutt for email. But doing that wants to > remove Gnome. So it wants to remove the Gnome meta-package. So what? -- Marc Wils

How to ensure packages generated from -source are installable?

2005-01-01 Thread William Ballard
Kernel module source packages generated Debian packages which may not be installable. For instance, alsa-source does not depend on alsa-base, but the generated alsa-modules does. ndiswrapper-source does the same with ndiswrapper-utils. Is there a flag to dpkg to refuse to install unless depen

Re: dependancy issues

2005-01-01 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Carl B. Constantine in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'm trying to trim my system a little bit. I wanted to purge Evolution > from my system since I use Mutt for email. But doing that wants to > remove Gnome. apt-cache is your friend: [0] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $apt-cache show gnome Package: gnome [...]

dependancy issues

2005-01-01 Thread Carl B. Constantine
I'm trying to trim my system a little bit. I wanted to purge Evolution from my system since I use Mutt for email. But doing that wants to remove Gnome. Also, I wanted to update console-data to the recent version but it wants to remove Base-Config and Console-tools (I just upgraded base-config). Fi

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Måns Rullgård
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 11:33:21AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > >>> Please suggest any case which you don't think this criteria adequately >>> covers. > >> The bios. >> Unless, we decide that the bios we put

whois 4.6.24+volatile3 accepted into woody-volatile

2005-01-01 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, I just accepted whois 4.6.24+volatile3 into woody-volatile. This version reflects the changed address of the .org whois registrary and is adapted to the new query format of the .de whois registrary; besides of this, some IP address mappings were updated. Please see the package changelog for a

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 11:33:21AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: >> Please suggest any case which you don't think this criteria adequately >> covers. > The bios. > Unless, we decide that the bios we put in non-free isn't the bios we > need to boot the mach

Re: Bug#283005: ITP: vhcs -- Virtual Hosting Control System

2005-01-01 Thread Hendrik Frenzel
Am Freitag, den 31.12.2004, 13:24 -0600 schrieb Steve Greenland: > On 29-Dec-04, 09:30 (CST), Hendrik Frenzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * License : MPL 1.1 > > Description : VHCS is a webhosting management system. > > VHCS delivers a complete hosting automation appliance by offering > > si

Re: RFP: gaim-guifications -- Show events notifications of gaim in a popup window

2005-01-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Luca Capello | on 05/03/2004 01:01 AM, Ramón Rey Vicente wrote: | > * Package name: gaim-guifications | > Version : 1.7 | > Upstream Author : Gary Kramlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > * URL : http://guifications.sourceforge.net/ | > * License : GPL | > Descript

Re: Best way to wrap gcc/g++ calls?

2005-01-01 Thread Julien Danjou
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 07:46:48PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 01, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I wouldn't mess with the real /usr/bin/* binaries/symlinks, and would > > do something similar to what ccache does. have a look at /usr/lib/ccache. > > (so, apt-build wou

installing an alternative in /etc ?

2005-01-01 Thread Ralf Treinen
Hi, is it OK to have a package install an alternative in /etc, like this: update-alternatives --install \ /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51caml-mode.el \ caml-mode-startup.el \ /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/tuareg-mode/tuareg-startup.el \ 30 The question is whether update-a

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 11:33:21AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: > Please suggest any case which you don't think this criteria adequately > covers. The bios. Unless, we decide that the bios we put in non-free isn't the bios we need to boot the machine. -- Raul

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Josh Triplett
Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > The social contract says "...but we will never make the system depend on > an item of non-free software." not "but we will never make the system > depend on an item of non-free software /which we must distribute/." > > In order to allow the vast majority of hardware whi

Re: Best way to wrap gcc/g++ calls?

2005-01-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 01, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wouldn't mess with the real /usr/bin/* binaries/symlinks, and would > do something similar to what ccache does. have a look at /usr/lib/ccache. > (so, apt-build would prepend /usr/lib/apt-build or similar to the PATH.) Agreed. This is w

Re: Happy new year 2003

2005-01-01 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 23:50 +0100, Jean-Luc Picard wrote: > yes, debian is still 2 years late to any other distro. WTF do you get by trolling? -- David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://www.damog.net/ If you fall and break your leg, don't come running to me!

Re: Best way to wrap gcc/g++ calls?

2005-01-01 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Julien Danjou [Sat, 01 Jan 2005 15:22:16 +0100]: > Do you have any idea about how to divert everything correctly ? > I think I could provide a gcc-apt-build package which would do the job > by replacing the gcc one and diverting some files, but I am bot happy > with this solution. > So, I am wa

Re: Happy new year 2003

2005-01-01 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:50:52 +0100, Jean-Luc Picard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > yes, debian is still 2 years late to any other distro. If you're sleeping since Woody release, we're! Good morning Jean-Luc, for your information: - There' s a new Debian installer[0] that will be used in the upcomin

Re: handling bugs of udev

2005-01-01 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Brian, * Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-12-27 00:56]: > > "Nico" == Nico Golde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Nico> this bug: > Nico> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=286257 > > I am not sure what the problem is here, according to the bug report, > the sol

Orphaning some packages

2005-01-01 Thread Thorsten Sauter
Hello, I plan to orphan some of my packages. At the moment I have not enough time for those packages. cacti - Frontend to rrdtool for monitoring systems and services There is a new upstream version available, which fix a lot of outstanding bugs. Please let me known, if you are interested on

Best way to wrap gcc/g++ calls?

2005-01-01 Thread Julien Danjou
Hello, I am the current maintainer of apt-build. I am looking for the best way to wrap all calls to gcc/g++. For now, apt-build makes a diversion like this in /usr/bin: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Dec 31 14:27 gcc -> gcc-3.3 becomes: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Nov 15 21:17 gcc.rea

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 03:09:52PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > The blobs for the in-kernel drivers are not to be executed by the host > CPU itself, neither is the non-free ICQ, MSN or Yahoo servers > (although Gaim can be seen useful by itself as it works with IRC and > Jabber... Well, brain, pleas

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Henning Makholm wrote: >> Scripsit Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>That would, however, cover firmware and wind up sending X to >>>contrib. So maybe: ... iff it is stored on the local machine's file >>>system. >> That would be my *intuit

Re: Happy new year 2003

2005-01-01 Thread Miguel Gea Milvaques
El dv 31 de 12 del 2004 a les 23:50 +0100, en/na Jean-Luc Picard va escriure: > yes, debian is still 2 years late to any other distro. Are you sure? I win a lot of time using debian because all I can find is packaged and works directly, the quality and dependence system is enought hard to assure I

Re: Happy new year 2003

2005-01-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jean-Luc Picard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > yes, debian is still 2 years late to any other distro. Flame answer sent in private mail, in French, which makes me easier to share my feelings about the consideration the above mail shows towards a volunteer work.

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 03:09:52PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Hamish Moffatt dijo [Tue, Dec 28, 2004 at 04:26:26PM +1100]: > > Yet the ICQ client is not useful without a component which is not in > > Debian and in fact is not freely available. > > > > If the emulators were extended to be able to

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Henning Makholm wrote: >> Scripsit Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>That would, however, cover firmware and wind up sending X to >>>contrib. So maybe: ... iff it is stored on the local machine's file >>>system. >> That would be my *intui

Re: LCC and blobs

2005-01-01 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 05:02:15PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > The social contract says "...but we will never make the system depend on > an item of non-free software." not "but we will never make the system > depend on an item of non-free software /which we must distribute/." We don't ma