On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:28:57 -0800 (PST), Nick Pavlica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
All,
I'm trying to find a distribution that would be
willing to add Lustre file system support (it requires
a kernel patch). If this group is interested, then I
may be able to gather some resources to help add th
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:59:33AM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:15:59PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > * Package name: yahoo2mbox
> > Version : 0.15
> > Upstream Author : Vadim Zeitlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> I think you trimmed away content that was crucial for understanding the
> parts you did quote, but whatever. If you need reptition or
> elaboration, I'll provide it.
Please do. I fo
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:08:17PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
>
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > * Package name: ttf-tamil-fonts
> > Version : 1.0.0
> > Upstream Author : The Tamil Linux Project
> > * URL
Nick, *,
Nick Pavlica, on 2003-12-17, 16:28, you wrote:
> I'm trying to find a distribution that would be
> willing to add Lustre file system support (it requires
> a kernel patch). If this group is interested, then I
> may be able to gather some resources to help add the
> support. It has rec
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:07:44PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
>
> Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working
> on Debian and stop trolling
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 03:05:46PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the
> > stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Baptist, and
> > Mormon authorities (the
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:03:00PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
Oh, its our good friend Tom Ballard. Maybe you could get back to working
on Debian and stop trolling now?
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:39, Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Imagining it? I suppose it's possible that I've hallucinated the
> stated positions of the Catholic, Luthern, Episopalian, Baptist, and
> Mormon authorities (the latter not technically being considered a sect
[...]
> Since you have
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:44:58PM -0800, Nunya Who wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> > He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics.
> >
> > Godwin.
>
> Copout.
Yes, it is too bad he is copping (sp) out on discussing all sorts of
things immed
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 14:43, Nunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the
> > large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed
> > religions, which form a s
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:39:07PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
>
> Fair treatment is exactly what I'm claiming is being denied me, by the
> large religious voting block formed by adherents of the above-listed
> religions, which form a significantly more than majority share of the
> population of the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:35:54AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> | You are totally rationalizing.
>
> *sigh* From Branden's original post where he mentioned the names:
>
> > We might use names from Christian demonology (since the BSD mascot
> > is the cute and devilish "daemon"), with the firs
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:25:11PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or
> > beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to
> > an eternity of suffering a
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:32:41AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote:
| On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote:
|
| > Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what
| > you hate.
| >
| Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like
| this...
|
| If I
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:49:06AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
| > | I don't believe in magical beings. I *do* believe some humans
| > | intentionally set out to hurt other humans. Branden's beliefs and
| > | sneering disdain for some of his fellow humans is quite clear.
| >
| > ... and in some cases
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:56:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> For the record, however, if you consider saying that the lifestyle or
> beliefs of someone you don't agree with are sufficient to condemn them to
> an eternity of suffering as hate speech (and I generally do), I'm on the
> catching end o
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 01:16, Nunya wrote:
> Face it. You're practicing hate speech. You're not better than what
> you hate.
>
Ya know, I've always wondered something when people say things like
this...
If I say "I hate Adolf Hitler and his cabinet", is that practising hate
speech?
Scott
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 05:16:18PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
>
> I wasn't thinking of you, but let's take a quote of yours and see which
> of these statements is most applicable:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200312/msg01512.html:
> "(religious fanatics - the one group tha
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 00:21, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> > And way out from Right Field...
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
>
> go back and count the # of "christians are stupid" statements
> substitute any r
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Dec 17, 2003, at 10:20, Branden Robinson wrote:
Given that we're going to be saddled with with a comprehension problem
anyway, I say we abandon the effort to be descriptive in the product
name. I proposed having a correlation between the first letter of the
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 12:59:38PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
>
> He did not say that all Christians are religious fanatics.
>
> Godwin.
Copout.
All,
I'm trying to find a distribution that would be
willing to add Lustre file system support (it requires
a kernel patch). If this group is interested, then I
may be able to gather some resources to help add the
support. It has recently reached production
status(1.0), and would be a valuable
Alejandro Arrieta Rios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> * Package name: dday
> Version : 4.1.0
> Upstream Author : ViperSoft Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.planetquake.com/dday/
> * License : (GPL)
> Description
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 12:16, Nunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> I wasn't thinking of you, but let's take a quote of yours and see which
> of these statements is most applicable:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-20
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:56:21 +0100, GCS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:56:30AM +0100, Toens Bueker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hamish Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought,
> but naming something after a missile seems odd.
Qu
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:19:46PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> I believe that if you cared to do the research on Usenet and mailing list
> debates of this kind, my statement above is defensible as fact on rigorous
> statistical grounds. But I don't care enough to do the work to prove that
> to
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 06:00:41PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> > > And way out from Right Field...
> >
> > http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
> >
Nunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this
>> sort of thing in the context that we were discussing in this portion of
>> the thread.
> That's another opinion expressed as
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:21:40PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> > And way out from Right Field...
>
> http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
>
> go back and count the # of "christians are stupid" statements
> subs
My package "Debian Reference" is large source files and it uses many
TeX and SGML tools. Can anyone tell me which machine I should use to
build and upload package.
Since SSH upload has been disabled, it looks very slow and unreliable to
upload. (Does dupload uses -C ? Somehow, I felt faster.)
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:02:03PM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> And way out from Right Field...
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-ridicule.html
go back and count the # of "christians are stupid" statements
substitute any racial or ethnic group for christians
see how the statemen
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:42:27AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > IOW, lighten up, people. Otherwise, we'll be referring to Debian
> > GNU/That Which Shall Not Be Named...
>
> Nah, bullshit. I've heard enough racists use that kind of reasoning.
> "It's no big deal." Face it, you have to respect peop
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:22:07PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > > the fact that "the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a
> > > Christian demon" and here's you're saying "yes it is." :-)
> >
> > Er, no. I'm not. I'm saying tha
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:56:30AM +0100, Toens Bueker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hamish Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought,
> > but naming something after a missile seems odd.
>
> Question is, after what the missile was named ...
If I
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:04:03PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > the fact that "the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly not a
> > Christian demon" and here's you're saying "yes it is." :-)
>
> Er, no. I'm not. I'm saying that Christian demons are derived from Greek
> daemons; that isn't t
Nathan Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If you wanted Greek names, there are plenty of obscure nymphs, satyrs,
> centaurs, etc. to choose from. Since the Greeks classified them as
> neither evil spirits nor deities, many of them would qualify as daemons
> in the classical sense.
We could als
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:54:28PM -0500, Stephen Depooter wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 12:26, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
> > > demon name for keyword if possible.
>
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:21:24AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> >
> > "The Christian concept of a demon is a corruption (as it were) of the Greek
> > concept of daemon"
>
> Basically, no arguments with what you said, except I find inconsisten
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
> > demon name for keyword if possible.
>
> Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 03:13:03PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
>
> If we're really worried about this, we can always use the names of the
> Dwarves in the Hobbit. Most (all?) of those names are from Icelandic
> sags, IIRC. So is Gandalf.
All of them. I suppose they even have enough of the right
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:09:37AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > > Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names w
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
schrieb am 16.12.2003 19:15:43:
now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different
things.
I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory
/var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package (MD5sum).
so what I like to say is,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am
> 16.12.2003 19:15:43:
> now it is getting clearer. we are talking about different things.
> I'm talking about the md5sums files in the directory
> /var/lib/dpkg/info. You talk about the md5 sum of the whole package
>
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 12:26, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
> > demon name for keyword if possible.
>
> Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but "fear of a
>
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> I made a package called ttf-indic as part of my (rather neglected)
> Debian-IN project. It contains a couple of Tamil fonts. Is there an
> overlap with your package?
>
> If you would like to help get Debian-IN off the ground it would great.
>
>
Oops
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:26:10AM -0600, Chad Walstrom wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
> > demon name for keyword if possible.
>
> Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:42:28PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> Well, just for the record, i personnally would prefer we don't use
> demon name for keyword if possible.
Forgive me for the gratuitous Harry Potter reference, but "fear of a
name increases fear for the thing itself." ;-p
IOW, lighten
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: ttf-tamil-fonts
> Version : 1.0.0
> Upstream Author : The Tamil Linux Project
> * URL : http://www.tamilinux.org/
> * License : GPL
> Description : Free
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> And, pray tell, why is that? Hindu mythology had demons far
> longer than Christianity (indeed, probably longer than any of the
> faiths of the descendents of Abraham).
If you are refering to Asuras, demon isn't quite the right word. They a
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Joel Baker wrote:
> Besides, using Tolkien names is a long geek tradition.
>
And that's what's wrong with it. The association of geeks and Tolkien is
such a cliche[1] Same goes for Pratchett (not to mention he is rather
overrated in my opinion.)
No if you're going to go w
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:41:12AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
>
> "The Christian concept of a demon is a corruption (as it were) of the Greek
> concept of daemon"
Basically, no arguments with what you said, except I find inconsistent
the fact that "the original guys said it's a daemon, explicitly
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 01:38:45AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:53:18AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
>
> | I don't believe in magical beings. I *do* believe some humans
> | intentionally set out to hurt other humans. Branden's beliefs and
> | sneering disdain for some of h
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:53:18AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31:17AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> >
> > Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of
> > "parochial religious fundamentalists" is showing. I suspect he'd be proud
> > of it. But you'll see fo
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:53:18AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
| I don't believe in magical beings. I *do* believe some humans
| intentionally set out to hurt other humans. Branden's beliefs and
| sneering disdain for some of his fellow humans is quite clear.
... and in some cases justified.
| Pleas
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 03:58:21PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:37:34AM +1100, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project
> Leader wrote:
>
> > > - As http://buildd.debian.org/stats/graph-week-big.png shows, there
> > > are some archs already have a working wanna-build acce
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:33:48PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:24:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> | > Demons are evil,
> |
> | Demons don't exist. Consequently, their moral value is undefinable.
>
> I claim that their moral value /is/ definable in the cont
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: dday
Version : 4.1.0
Upstream Author : ViperSoft Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.planetquake.com/dday/
* License : (GPL)
Description : D-Day Normandy, the original Quake2 WWII modification of
Fi
On Tuesday 16 December 2003 20:15, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
--cut--
> > i don't understand your comment above. why is the md5sums file useless
> > and space wasting especially in terms of security? until now, I was of
> > the opinion, that the md5sum gives me the guarantee that a debian package
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 09:31:17AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
>
> Somehow, I don't think Branden will mind being told his dislike of
> "parochial religious fundamentalists" is showing. I suspect he'd be proud
> of it. But you'll see for yourself, soon enough.
I don't believe in magical beings. I *
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 08:17:03AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > > Because Christians are the people who pri
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:08:44AM +0100, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:54:09AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> >
> > No, it's probably antipathy for the Free Software Foundation driving
> > this more than anything else.
> >
> > Maybe they'd prefer Debian GNU/KLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:12:21AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I think you didn't bother to read any of the parts of my message that
> > you didn't quote.
>
> I did. But I trimmed away those that were not necessary for the reader
> to be remind
Re: Branden Robinson in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > I like Branden's proposition very much. (Other than the proposed
> > Pratchett names.)
>
> The Pratchett names weren't my suggestion; if they're adopted, then I
> cannot claim the credit for proposing them.
I know, I just didn't want to quote from t
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:10:24AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather
> > like the notion of using the Valar - they're
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:24:34PM -0600, Paul Baker wrote:
> On Dec 13, 2003, at 3:27 PM, Branden Robinson wrote:
> >Thus:
> >
> >Debian FreeBSD -> Debian Forneus (BSD)
> >Debian NetBSD -> Debian Naberius (BSD)
> >Debian OpenBSD ->
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:31:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort
> > > of thing in the context
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:42:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 12:02:44 -0500, Nathan Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > said:
> >
> > > Your proposal would change that. I oppose it, and I would oppose it
> > > just
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 08:15:04AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Actually, given that I'm a long-time and deep-seated Tolkien geek, I rather
> like the notion of using the Valar - they're fictional, and Tolkien's work
> isn't yet out from under copyright, but they
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less
> > loaded to random fundamentalists, if possible;
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:01:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> Branden's second proposal of using something from Pratchett did have a
> nice ring to it, [...]
That wasn't my proposal; it was made by Roland Mas in Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
--
G. Br
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:37:44PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:53:15PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > I doubt you'd have known they were names from Christian demonology if I
> > hadn't told you. I didn't propse that we use bet
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 12:15:59PM +0530, Ganesan Rajagopal wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: yahoo2mbox
> Version : 0.15
> Upstream Author : Vadim Zeitlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http://www.lpthe.jussieu.fr/~zeitlin/yahoo2mbox.html
>
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Catholics compared to their Protestant brethren. I should think if
> anyone were taught demonology these days, it would be kids in Catholic
I knew all about demons around that age, and I'm not even a religious
person.
Doom taught me everything I ne
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Even so, I'm amenable to anyone who can come up with names which are less
> loaded to random fundamentalists, if possible; of course, most of the
> sources on daemons say that they are, as a rule, wi
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 01:41:50AM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> I consider myself educated, and I've never heard of any demons in school
> where we had 13 years of religious (catholic) education. I can
> definitely say that I'm not offended, and I doubt that
Javier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Sun, 14 Dec 2003 00:31:24 +0100):
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Patch for this (stupid) bug
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> tags 70144 patch
> thanks
>
> This is a bug that has been open for over 3 and a half years, easy to
> fix (patch attached) and deserves a
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 05:42:47PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> I hope I'm attributing correctly.
>
> My philosophy of good and evil is private and irrelevant -- but this
> conversation has made me uncomfortable. I'm killfiling it but -- I'm
> uncomfortable. Could you take it elsewhere?
If you've ki
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
[We're back off-topic for -legal.]
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:33:17PM -0500, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:
> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have little patience for superstitious beliefs, and less still for
> > people who claim to be defending
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 10:24:04AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
| > Demons are evil,
|
| Demons don't exist. Consequently, their moral value is undefinable.
I claim that their moral value /is/ definable in the context of a
particular mythology even if they don't exist. In the case of the
Chr
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 05:23:39PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 04:12:56PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Because Christians are the people who primarily take offense at this sort
> > of thing in the context that we were discussing in this portion of the
> > thread.
>
> That's ano
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 02:19:47PM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:29:15PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > And, pray tell, why is that? Hindu mythology had demons far
> > longer than Christianity (indeed, probably longer than any of the
> > faiths of the descendents of Ab
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:20:32AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> [...] a comic which by the way is being made into a movie with Keanu
> Reeves (it's being filmed as we speak).
> http://www.insanerantings.com/hell/movie/ [Heaven is oppressive,
> right-wingers are malevolent, world saved by the paganists/hel
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:59:57AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> Or read Stephen Brust's _To Reign in Hell_, which posits an alternative
> explanation of the creation of the world, the nature and causes of the
> conflict between the angels under Yahweh and those under Satan, and the
> origin of humank
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:03:00PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > [I am not subscribed to debian -bsd.]
> >
> > What would be unacceptable about it, and why is it only a "borderline"
> > case? What would push it over the borderline?
>
> Demons are
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:00:56PM -0600, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:11:20AM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> > Unfortunately, my experience with the topic tends to indicate that the
> > same folks who care are very likely to consider there mer
[I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 02:49:39PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:03:25PM -0500, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
> > [I am not subscribed to debian-bsd.]
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 08:21:30PM +0100, Rol
Package: wnpp
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Am 16.12.03 um 17:34:45 schrieb Will Newton:
> It is worth noting that any project name may also be used for associated
> domain names, file names etc., so ASCII is nice.
Irrelevant with the advent of domain names containing arbitrary Unicode
characters. Besides, as was said, there are easily ide
Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought,
> > > but naming something after a missile seems odd.
> >
> > Question is, after what the missile was named ...
>
> Extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scud:
>
> "Scud is the NATO repo
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 04:10:32AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:24:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> > [snip]
> > > I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects
> > > in general conversati
On Wed, 2003-12-17 at 11:56, Toens Bueker wrote:
> Hamish Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought,
> > but naming something after a missile seems odd.
>
> Question is, after what the missile was named ...
Extract from http://en.wikipedia.org/w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> goswin,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
> > > Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)
> > > Package: general
> > > Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12
> > > Severity: normal
> > > Tags: security
> >
> > Every package has a md5sum in the Package file.
>
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 11:24:49AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
> [snip]
> > I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects
> > in general conversation: politics, sex, religion.
>
> Yeah, let's avoid conversation
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Hamish Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought,
> but naming something after a missile seems odd.
Question is, after what the missile was named ...
by
Töns
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:06:47AM -0800, Nunya wrote:
[snip]
> I think this is what my momma meant when she told me to avoid 3 subjects
> in general conversation: politics, sex, religion.
Yeah, let's avoid conversation altogether, or only talk about the weather...
[snip]
/David
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I'm not on the list, just follow DWN. Just a thought, but naming
something after a missile seems odd.
Hamish
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 06:32:01PM -0500, sean finney wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:22:57PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Fixed now.
>
> earlier today i submitted a bug against an orphaned package in wnpp,
> and haven't yet recieved a reply. normally the replies come back pretty
> quick (l
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