On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:54:09AM -0500,
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
a message of 126 lines which said:
> Debian either needs a trademark license from the NetBSD Foundation
> for use of the "NetBSD" mark, or it does not.
Legally speaking, you're right. Now, on more practical gr
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:37:51AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 01:01, Marc Wilson wrote:
>
> > Not at all. You want to enforce on $RANDOM_UPSTREAM the idea that they
> > have to support .desktop files. That is *not* going to work. Debian does
> > not have that sort of po
I've uploaded chrony_1.20-2. It may have problems in the rtc stuff,
especially on 440BX/GX boards. Please test it. Running the chronyc
rtcdata command will suffice. To do so you will need 'Enhanced RTC'
support in your kernel and will need to uncomment the rtcfile line in
/etc/chrony/chrony.con
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 18:31, Herbert Xu wrote:
> ?
>
> (that's UTF-8) as the reference.
But your message didn't include a Content-Type header specifying that,
so it's likely to come through as garbage for most MUAs...
signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:31:11AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do you have a dictionary that gives the historical derivation?
>
> I used
>
> ?
>
> (that's UTF-8) as the reference.
That seems to have got mangled into the nine question marks above
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 06:33:52PM -0500, Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:11:08PM -0600, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> was heard to say:
> > All that would do is make it consitently different from all other
> > distributions. Assuming that they listed the proper Categories
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 12:10:06PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> Let me know when you have an apt repository that's in a usable state and I'll
> recommend it on my SE Linux web pages. I expect that anyone who is
> interested in SE Linux will be interested in your work as well.
This work has
On Sat, Dec 13, 2003 at 10:31:11AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well I certainly have no idea of the historical background of the word,
> > but my `guessed derivation' does actually sort of make sense in that
> > context...
[snip]
I read the archives t
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:28:51PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote:
<...>
> .desktop files are not bloated... period. They include i18n which for
> you is bloat since you obviously can communicate in English.
"not bloated... period", yet you admit the translation
Arnaud Giersch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The kernel-images are available in the woody-proposed-updates. They
> depend on initrd-tools (>= 0.1.32woody.5), but the latest available
> version for Woody (including the woody-proposed-updates) is
> 0.1.32woody.3.
>
> Should I report the bug throug
Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:11:08PM -0600, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> was heard to say:
> > All that would do is make it consitently different from all other
> > distributions. Assuming that they listed the proper Categories in their
>
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:11:08PM -0600, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was
heard to say:
> All that would do is make it consitently different from all other
> distributions. Assuming that they listed the proper Categories in their
^^
Hi Peter,
Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Am Fr, den 12.12.2003 schrieb Julian Mehnle um 15:32:
> > Benjamin Drieu wrote:
> > > I no longer use usemod-wiki and thus have no time to maintain it.
> > > Package is in good shape, no serious bugs. Very few work is needed
> > > to maintain it as release cycle
Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well I certainly have no idea of the historical background of the word,
> but my `guessed derivation' does actually sort of make sense in that
> context...
The reason I think it's incorrect is that although `fu' means husband,
it is not used to mean part
I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE MY WIFE ON THIS VACATION IF WE WIN IS BECAUSE SHE IS
THE MOST WOUNDERFUL WIFE IN THE WORLD WE BEEN TOGETHER FOR OVER 4 YEARS NOW AND
MARRIED FOR 1 YEAR AND I'M STILL IN LOVE WITH HER LIKE THE FIRST DAY WE MET SHE
IS ALWAYS DOING THING FOR OTHER PEOPLE EVEN IF SHE DON'T H
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 10:36:30PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > It also appears master's email is broken. Bugs I tried closing in one
> > email yesterday (via multiple [EMAIL PROTECTED]) have yet to be closed and
> > an email I sent
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 12:28:29PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:12:58AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> | Cameron Patrick wrote:
> |
> | > On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 01:57:29PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> | >
> | > | > Because you gain *nothing*
> | > |
> |
Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12
Severity: normal
In last august I adopted murasaki. Despite many emails I've sent to the
upstream author I never received any news from him.
Last week a RC bug was filled on this package (#223197). A good solution
to close this bug is probably to u
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 01:28:51PM -0700, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > Scripsit Bruce Sass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> >
> > > > In which format shall application packages store
> > > > their menu information.
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:34:12PM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Package: chrony (debian/main)
> > > Maintainer: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > [REMOVE]
> > > 223134 [] chron
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 11:42:25AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Worse yet - after demanding that, we probably will rewrite their
> .desktop files - We will still (I hope) strive to provide menus
> consistent with our way of doing things. One of the main roles of the
> maintainers of a distribution i
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> I noticed that http://qa.debian.org/developer.php still isn't
> updating.
See debian-qa. It looks as if this can be re-enabled soon, but the
primary author of developer.php currently doesn't have a key in the
keyring.
--
Colin Watso
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> It also appears master's email is broken. Bugs I tried closing in one
> email yesterday (via multiple [EMAIL PROTECTED]) have yet to be closed and
> an email I sent to debian-qt-kde still hasn't appeared after 2 hours.
> Also bugs I tr
Scripsit Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Package: chrony (debian/main)
> > Maintainer: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > [REMOVE]
> > 223134 [] chrony: FTBFS: Errors in kernel headers
> Why is chrony getting removed?
AFAIU,
I was wondering if there is any progress in getting the servers back to
normal. I noticed that http://qa.debian.org/developer.php still isn't
updating. Also how long until the buildd's are back online? I only see 3
archs that have online buildds right now.
It also appears master's email is broken.
On Thu, 2003-12-11 at 12:41, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 02:45:09PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > We've often downplayed asking for help in favour of encouraging people
> > to *offer* to help, but since we're having problems, it's important to
> > try everything we can to over
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:55:07AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I guess that makes sense, if you interpret it as meaning something like
> > > `Hard work is the partner of success' -- which sort of works with `apt'
> > > too (partner of apt?).
> >
> > I d
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 04:05:50AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote:
> > Because nobody but KDE and Gnome use those features and they
> > already support .desktop files.
>
> How would e.g. the lyx debian package get an i18nized menu entry into the
> menu of either KDE or Gnome. YOU HAVE TO PRO
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 10:01:39PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 09:08:38PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:29:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:31:17PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > > We don't have to map them o
Joey Hess wrote:
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
I am writing to -devel and not to -boot as I think this should be
visible for most developers, as it can have a huge impact in our
systems.
I was reading [1] today that XFS is entering the 2.4 kernel tree -
Being we still reasonably far from having Sarge releasab
Christian Stimming wrote:
> ich hab leider keine Ahnung, was da los ist (hab kein Debian). Ktoblzcheck
> benötigt eigentlich keinerlei ungewöhnliche libraries. Irgendjemand sonst
> Erfahrungen mit Debian woody hier?
Ja. Wie sieht es mit "dpkg -l build-essentials" aus?
crt1.o ist in libc6-dev...
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> I am writing to -devel and not to -boot as I think this should be
> visible for most developers, as it can have a huge impact in our
> systems.
>
> I was reading [1] today that XFS is entering the 2.4 kernel tree -
> Being we still reasonably far from having Sarge releasable,
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 12:43, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> * UTF-8 console with English locale
> * UTF-8 console with Japanese locale
Why are these different? It isn't really laid out in the document
linked; does this mean different input methods?
--
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
J
Package: wnpp
Version: unavailable; reported 2003-12-12
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: seq24
Version : 0.4.3
Upstream Author : Rob C. Buse
* URL : http://www.filter24.org/seq24/
* License : GPL
Description : Real time MIDI sequencer
Seq24 was created
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 07:24:29PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:39:47PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> [snip]
> > I explained that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" was actually a separate effort,
> > primarily by Robert Millan, to port Debian to a system consisting of
> > NetBSD's ker
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 07:24:29PM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> I removed a lot of CC's, since this comment isn't relevant to the rest
> of the discussion, really...
>
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:39:47PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> [snip]
> > I explained that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" was actually a
BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Package: chrony (debian/main)
> Maintainer: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [REMOVE]
> 223134 [] chrony: FTBFS: Errors in kernel headers
Why is chrony getting removed?
> Package: defrag (debian/main)
> Maintainer: Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL P
I removed a lot of CC's, since this comment isn't relevant to the rest
of the discussion, really...
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:39:47PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
[snip]
> I explained that "Debian GNU/KNetBSD" was actually a separate effort,
> primarily by Robert Millan, to port Debian to a system co
Hi,
We all know how to set up localized environment through shell
environment variables. There is even helper packages language-env.
(Or KDE etc can be started with locale set by kdm.)
But I never liked them since I get locked into a single locale.
So how can we elegantly set multilingual envir
* Warren Turkal wrote:
> Thomas E. Vaughan wrote:
> *snip*
> > Any help appreciated.
>
> Did you see the mozilla-snapshot package? Try installing it.
Last update of this package was in the beginning of october. I don't
think that's a mozilla 1.6b.
Norbert
Marc Wilson dijo [Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 10:01:39PM -0800]:
> > > Other way around. You have to pass .desktop files through to the
> > > menu-methods in a fashion that allows them to generate menus digestible to
> > > applications not supporting .desktop files.
> >
> > You seem to have lost the con
[ Adding -legal to the Cc; it may become inappropriate for -devel, at ]
[ some point, in which case folks should remove the -devel Cc. The -bsd ]
[ Cc should probably remain no matter what, as this could potentially ]
[ affect any of the BSD ports.
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > It's your punishment for using the close command. DON'T!
> > There is no need and no excuse.
>
> I disagree. See situations like #214865 or #218038.
>
> "close" *can* be handled responsibly.
Thanks for this support. I'm generally aware that "close
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On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:39:47PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote:
> On December 2nd, I was contacted by Luke Mewburn, on behalf of The NetBSD
> Foundation, asking about the "transition" to calling the NetBSD port
> "Debian GNU/KNetBSD", and expressing their appreciat
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 05:39:59PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:51:07AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
> [...]
> > We use XFS extensively at work, and while it has many nice
> > features, I think some time is needed before we can say the
> > integration into 2.4 has
On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 09:51:07AM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote:
[...]
> We use XFS extensively at work, and while it has many nice
> features, I think some time is needed before we can say the
> integration into 2.4 has been successful. I'm actually quite
> surprised to hear the patch no long
CDDs may be tailored for a particular purpose, such as to distribute to a
small group where the locales of all users is known (or assumed). In order
to include the maximum useful material per media it would be useful in such
cases to prune any unnecessary locale data provided by the included
pack
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:20:30PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:30:49AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > mailx -s "Merge" [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<...
> > merge 219863 223355
> > close 223355
> > thanks
> >
> > and got the answer mentioned below.
>
> It's your pun
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 08:36:34PM -0500, Nathan Hawkins wrote:
> I used grub, though instead of PXE. (Most of the hardware was old, and
> very few, if any, of the the NIC's supported PXE.) grub can be built
> with network support, and it supported all the NIC's we had. It also
> loads the kernel a
Thomas E. Vaughan wrote:
*snip*
> Any help appreciated.
Did you see the mozilla-snapshot package? Try installing it.
wt
--
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President, GOLUM, Inc.
http://www.golum.org
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 10:57:25PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> I am writing to -devel and not to -boot as I think this should be
> visible for most developers, as it can have a huge impact in our
> systems.
> I was reading [1] today that XFS is entering the 2.4 kernel tree -
> Being we still reas
Hello,
Tuesday, December 9, 2003 at 12:02:33 (CET), Herbert Xu wrote:
> Format: 1.7
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:02:33 +1100
> Source: kernel-image-2.4.22-i386
> Binary: [...] kernel-image-2.4.22-2-386 [...]
> Architecture: source i386
> Version: 2.4.22-2woody.2
> Distribution: stable
> Urgency:
Am Fr, den 12.12.2003 schrieb Julian Mehnle um 15:32:
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> Benjamin Drieu wrote:
> > I no longer use usemod-wiki and thus have no time to maintain it.
> > Package is in good shape, no serious bugs. Very few work is needed to
> > maintain it as rele
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 01:01, Marc Wilson wrote:
> Not at all. You want to enforce on $RANDOM_UPSTREAM the idea that they
> have to support .desktop files. That is *not* going to work. Debian does
> not have that sort of power.
>
> On the other hand, the idea that an application desiring to par
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Benjamin Drieu wrote:
> I no longer use usemod-wiki and thus have no time to maintain it.
> Package is in good shape, no serious bugs. Very few work is needed to
> maintain it as release cycle is quite long.
>
> The only one todo item is to package v
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g. bc)
> Package: general
> Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12
> Severity: normal
> Tags: security
Every package has a md5sum in the Package file.
Some packages have a useless and space wasting md5sums file inside the
p
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I no longer use usemod-wiki and thus have no time to maintain it.
Package is in good shape, no serious bugs. Very few work is needed to
maintain it as release cycle is quite long.
The only one todo item is to package version 1.0, which requires some
changes to the
Hi,
I intend to hijack pvm within the next week or so -- the package has not had
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appear to work properly on 64-bit platforms and has other problems. The
maintainer appears to be semi-MIA and has not responded to my OTA filed a
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Subject: general: no md5sums for many packages (e.g.
bc)
Package: general
Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-12
Severity: normal
Tags: security
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:55:53AM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I updated a new set of e2fsprogs debs 5 or 6 days ago, which among other
> things contained an RC bugfix. It's been stalled waiting for someone to
> update the override file. I know that people are busy finishing off the
>
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 09:48:55AM +0100, Florent Rougon wrote:
>> autodetection to manual setting in my GRUB config files and am happy
>> with this setup (I hate black magic).
>
> Black magic can be good for multi path io, sans and generally for a
> un
Hi,
I updated a new set of e2fsprogs debs 5 or 6 days ago, which among other
things contained an RC bugfix. It's been stalled waiting for someone to
update the override file. I know that people are busy finishing off the
last bits of recovery from the security compromise, but when should I
expec
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 09:08:38PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:29:24PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 12:31:17PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > We don't have to map them onto anything. We just have to pass them
> > > through to the menu met
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