> Well, given you talk about being a pure GPL project, why not put your
> documentation under the GPL as well? Even if you were writing in
> plain text or in a WYSIWYG program, it's a reasonable choice. But
> given you're writing in docbook, with a very clear
> source-compiled-to-object mapping,
At Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:20:36 -0600 (CST),
Adam Heath wrote:
> Sorry, users will still ask. They always ask. Users still think that
> updating /usr/include/linux to point to /usr/src/linux/include/linux is the
> right thing to do.
And then, which package does provide /usr/src/linux directory?
Reg
This one time, at band camp, Matt Zimmerman said:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:31:44PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:46:39PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: But,
> > > I don't see why you should need to hook into apt at all in order
> > > to do what you want. If the fil
"Artur R. Czechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And last but not least: upstream name is t1lib. I do not like to change it
> until it is really needed.
Fair enough; that's probably the best argument. (I similarly resisted
renaming alsa-xmms to xmms-alsa because I felt it would be better to
k
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:35:13PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
| On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:53:36AM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
| > It would be helpful if Debian could even be installed on machines newer
| > than about 2 years old.
|
| It would be helpful if people wouldn't make sweeping generalizati
On Wednesday 05 November 2003 07:28, Graham Wilson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:49:39AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > [...]
> >
> > [...]
>
> Please, guys, don't have your discussion here. I don't think we really
> care about the differences
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 08:43:52PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 20:14, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering
> > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not
> > linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alterna
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering
> > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not
> > linux-kernel-* o
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Severity: wishlist
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Version : 0.0.8-aj
Upstream Author : Andy Jeffriess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dennis J Houy <[EMAIL
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* License
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 06:31:44PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:46:39PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > But, I don't see why you should need to hook into apt at all in order to do
> > what you want. If the files you change are conffiles, your changes should
> > be pres
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering
> > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not
> > linux-kern
This one time, at band camp, Matt Zimmerman said:
> (this is debian-devel material; please followup there)
OK.
For those who missed the original post on -mentors - I'm in charge of
some non-standard packages for a company I work for, and I would like to
write a hook into apt that does things lik
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:21:59PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled:
> Marek Habersack wrote:
> >Quoting from the nettle manual:
> >
> > Nettle is distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL) (see the
> > file COPYING for details). However, most of the individual files are dual
> > licensed
Marek Habersack wrote:
Quoting from the nettle manual:
Nettle is distributed under the GNU General Public License (GPL) (see the
file COPYING for details). However, most of the individual files are dual
licensed under less restrictive licenses like the GNU Lesser General Public
License (LGPL),
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:21, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> * Package name: gnusound
> Description : Powerful sound editor
s/Powerful // - let the user determine that.
> GNUsound is a sound editor for Linux. It supports multiple tracks,
> multichannel output, and 8, 16, or 24/32 bit samples. It
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 06:21, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> * Package name: ircservices-ptlink
> Description : IRC Services for PTlink IRCd
De-capitalize "Services."
> PTlink is an advanced IRC server, used by the Portuguese PTLink
> network It is fast, reliable, and powerful with good support
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 08:19, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> * Package name: ircopm-ptlink
> Description : Open Proxy Monitor for PTlink IRCd
Open Proxy Monitor isn't a proper noun, and as such should not be
capitalized here.
> PTlink is an advanced IRC server, used by the Portuguese PTLink
> ne
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:50:52PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled:
> Chad Walstrom wrote:
> >>My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some
> >>under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the
> >>library as a whole must be considered to be under the G
On 06-Nov-03, 13:47 (CST), Keegan Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > Surely these won't all show up in the same Packages file...if you're
> > running GNU/KFreeBSD, it will be a FreeBSD kernel, right? Why would the
> > Linux and H
Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:16, Marc DequÃnes wrote:
>> * Package name: songwrite
>> Description : a tablatures editor and player
>
> Drop the leading 'a'.
>
>> Songwrite is a tablatures (guitar partitions) editor and player
>> entirely written in Pyth
There was discussion here a while ago about the package descriptions in
webmin and usermin not quite being up to snuff. Now that the package
reorganization has been completed, would someone (Joe?) like to review
them and give me some better ones? The source packages are
webmin
webmin-optional
we
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:22:31PM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled:
> Marek Habersack wrote:
> >>My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some
> >>under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the
> >>library as a whole must be considered to be under the
Chad Walstrom wrote:
My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some
under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the
library as a whole must be considered to be under the GPL, correct?
Not necessarily. If work is done on the Public Domain portion of co
http://218.130.220.10/
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:14:31PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering
> > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not
> > linux-kernel-* o
I demand that Greg Stark may or may not have written...
> Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> BTW, no need to Cc: me - or did Gnus not notice the Mail-Followup-To
>> header?
> Uhm. What Mail-Followup-To header? I didn't receive one on this message,
> perhaps it's stripped by the mail serve
On 05-Nov-03, 19:14 (CST), Jonathan Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm in two minds whether or not to ask this, but I've been wondering
> about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not
> linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alternative kernels in debian become
> more popular, is th
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:17:59PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> I wanted to try Sarge installer for a new box and thus I used jigdo with
>
>
> http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/jigdo-area/i386/sarge-i386-1.jigdo
>
> Unfortunately one package seems to be removed from the mirrors (s
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:51:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > It would be helpful if people wouldn't make sweeping generalizations all
> > the time.
>
> /me hands Josip an Excellence in Un-self-conscious Irony Award
I was merely responding to a sentence written with the same beginning, bu
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 11:59:26PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote:
> > > > It would be helpful if people wouldn't make sweeping generalizations
> > > > all the time.
>
> "All the time"? ...
Someone has been saying that every once in a while for the last N years.
--
2. That which causes joy or ha
Marek Habersack wrote:
My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some
under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the
library as a whole must be considered to be under the GPL, correct?
Yes, that's the case. I just wanted to highlight the fact that par
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
> * Otto Wyss [Sun, Nov 02 2003, 10:21:14AM]:
> > Since when does the package libc6-dev depend on linux-kernel-headers? Is
> > this dependes really necessary?
>
>
>
> What not rename linux-kernel-headers to simple system-headers-linux?
> This wi
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:55:03PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> #include
> * Otto Wyss [Sun, Nov 02 2003, 10:21:14AM]:
> > Since when does the package libc6-dev depend on linux-kernel-headers? Is
> > this dependes really necessary?
>
>
>
> What not rename linux-kernel-headers to simple system-h
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:44, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> * Package name: worlded
> Description : World editor for Ark roleplaying kernel
Don't capitalise "World."
> Tool to construct a world for Ark, a roleplaying game kernel.
More detail is needed here. What can worlded do to the Ark world
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:42, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> * Package name: arkhart-data
> Description : Data for the Ark roleplaying kernel
Don't capitalise "Data."
> Powerful and flexible framework to create
> (networked/single player) role playing games, without having to write a
> single li
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 09:16, Marc Dequènes wrote:
> * Package name: songwrite
> Description : a tablatures editor and player
Drop the leading 'a'.
> Songwrite is a tablatures (guitar partitions) editor and player
> entirely written in Python.
Is 'partitions' the right word here? (I hon
#include
* Otto Wyss [Sun, Nov 02 2003, 10:21:14AM]:
> Since when does the package libc6-dev depend on linux-kernel-headers? Is
> this dependes really necessary?
What not rename linux-kernel-headers to simple system-headers-linux?
This will prevent confused users (or: lazy to read the descripti
On 2003-11-06T13:23:09-0500 (Thursday), Branden Robinson wrote:
["synaptic-touchpad"]
> It may be a good idea to go ahead and package it, though I am not sure
> you have picked the best name for it.
My .02 Euro:
Try "xfree86-driver-$module".
I wouldn't go as far as using something like "synaptic-
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 01:23:09PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:05:22PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (local.debian-devel) you wrote:
> > > > Package: wnpp
> > > >
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:35:13PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> It would be helpful if people wouldn't make sweeping generalizations all the
> time.
/me hands Josip an Excellence in Un-self-conscious Irony Award
--
G. Branden Robinson|A committee is a life form with six
Debian
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 12:05:22PM +0100, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:47:41PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (local.debian-devel) you wrote:
> > > Package: wnpp
> > > Severity: wishlist
> >
> > > * Package name: synaptic-touchpad
> > >
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Em Qua 05 Nov 2003 11:52, Stephen Frost escreveu:
> * Daniel Rog?rio de Souza ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > "OpenMosix Kernel Patch" patch for 2.4.20 does not apply cleanly
>
> That I can believe but I'm not entirely sure which way I'd like to go
> wi
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:53:38AM -0500, John Belmonte wrote:
> Marek Habersack wrote:
> >* License : GPL, LGPL, Public Domain
>
> What does this mean exactly?
>
> My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some
> under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If th
Package: wnpp
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Version : 2.12
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Owen White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:53:38AM -0500, John Belmonte scribbled:
> Marek Habersack wrote:
> >* License : GPL, LGPL, Public Domain
>
> What does this mean exactly?
It's a mix of licenses of the source files composing the library.
> My guess is that it means some parts of the library are
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > The test incorrectly assumes that thread stacks are executable. I suspect
> > we both agree that it's desirable to have thread stacks non-executable as
> > well.
>
> while i agree with you on this one, it is in stark contrast to what you
> said ear
Marek Habersack wrote:
* License : GPL, LGPL, Public Domain
What does this mean exactly?
My guess is that it means some parts of the library are under GPL, some
under LGPL, and some in the public domain. If that's the case, the
library as a whole must be considered to be under the GPL, c
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003, Max Cohan wrote:
> The pcmcia-cs init script runs AFTER networking. If your primary network card
> is on a pcmcia card (as with a laptop) this requires you to run 'networking
> start'
> after boot.
I suggest you read /usr/share/doc/pcmcia-cs/FAQ.Debian.gz:
oThe PCMC
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On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:30AM +0100, Sebastian Henschel wrote:
> in short: i want your blessing. :)
Go, go, go!
Just package the thing as wmacpi and be happy.
--
Marcelo
Package: General
Version: Sarge
The pcmcia-cs init script runs AFTER networking. If your primary network card
is on a pcmcia card (as with a laptop) this requires you to run 'networking
start'
after boot.
Solution:
1) Add/Move the 'pcmcia' init script to /etc/rcS.d/ (I have it as 'S37pcmcia'
> > It is in fact a simulation of a multithreaded application. [...]
>
> The test incorrectly assumes that thread stacks are executable. I suspect
> we both agree that it's desirable to have thread stacks non-executable as
> well.
while i agree with you on this one, it is in stark contrast to wha
> > [...] randomization serves NO purpose in the grand scheme, it does not
> > provide guaranteed protection against the PaX attack model (arbitrary
> > read/write access to the address space). [...]
>
> there's another, practical aspect of address-space randomization which i
> find to be the most
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > there's nothing wrong about an executable stack though. It's been part of
> > Linux ever since.
>
> the brk() managed heap has also been executable. yet you break apps that
> assume so (the ominous XFree86 server would also use the brk() managed
>
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Marek Habersack wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It seems that touch(1) is broken on hppa:
...
> Does anybody have access to any other hppa machines except for those
> which are accessible for the DDs to confirm the above problem?
Confirmed.
Linux zaphod 2.4.18-pa35 #2 Thu Jun 6 08:36:
Scripsit Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> When I search for packages, I think I'd prefer (assuming I want
> to see all kernel- type packages), I'd prefer kernel-linux-*,
> kernel-hurd-*, kernel-freebsd-*, etc.
Instead of trying to cram that into package names, would it not be
more appropriat
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [...] incidentally, if i were to make use of PT_GNU_STACK in PaX, i
> could claim the same - now what was your point of fighting this silly
> issue?
yes, this was precisely my point to discuss this issue. Executability of
the stack is not some divine
> You are trying to make a big fuss about this for no good reason.
Ingo, please. it was *you* who objected to PaX's default enforcement
policy because it broke Linus's rule. yet you did the same with your
own default *and* contested the fact that you hadn't broken anything.
i don't have a problem
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On 06 Nov 2003 01:06:25 -0500, Greg Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
debian-devel:
> Personally I'm of the opinion that stable is useless. It certainly
> has no use for me. Perhaps if I ran a production server on debian I
> might think otherwise but I rather doubt it. When I had production
>
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > actually, unmodified XFree86 works just fine. It will have an executable
> > stack but it will work out of box - so no app was broken.
>
> false! my unmodified X server (gentoo) dies with the following core
> when trying to run it under [1]:
you n
> > [...] also, you did break userland yourself as well, otherwise how would
> > you explain the patches RedHat made to the XFree86 server?
>
> actually, unmodified XFree86 works just fine. It will have an executable
> stack but it will work out of box - so no app was broken.
false! my unmodified
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:55:50AM +0100, Santiago Vila scribbled:
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Marek Habersack wrote:
>
> > It seems that touch(1) is broken on hppa:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > The above is on the same machine but not inside the chroot. In the first
> > case the version of coreutils is 5.0,
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [...] also, you did break userland yourself as well, otherwise how would
> you explain the patches RedHat made to the XFree86 server?
actually, unmodified XFree86 works just fine. It will have an executable
stack but it will work out of box - so no a
hello list..
in short: i want your blessing. :)
well, some of you might be aware of some problems with wmacpi, see also
the bug list at debian:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=wmacpi&archive=no
meanwhile, simon fowler has developed a new version of wmacpi (but very
si
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Marek Habersack wrote:
> It seems that touch(1) is broken on hppa:
>
> [...]
>
> The above is on the same machine but not inside the chroot. In the first
> case the version of coreutils is 5.0, in the latter 5.0.91.
Seems like a bug in coreutils 5.0 which has been fixed in 5
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Has anyone seen any activity from Greg Hookey, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>?
Greg is in the NM queue, but has been put on hold by his AM (madkiss),
for reasons I am unaware of, but which I understand included being
uncontactable. He has not been contactable f
also sprach Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.11.06.0243 +0100]:
> > about the naming scheme for linux packages - kernel-*. Why not
> > linux-kernel-* or linux-* ? If alternative kernels in debian become
> > more popular, is there a potential for confusion in the future?
> [...]
> Martin Kraaf
Marc Dequènes wrote:
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Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Regardless. Having people install fresh machines with things like
> > Postgres 7.2 is just embarrassing.
>
> I am not embarrassed.
Well perhaps you should be. Whenever they ask for support those users will be
told the version their running is hopele
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