Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:24:37AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:41:54PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > That doesn't help all that much - it's also important see why the bug > > has been closed. > Because it is fixed... The trick is working out why the maintainer beli

Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:30:44 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan Wind) wrote: > On 2003-08-27T09:38:47+0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > > Moreover I do not like the new hot keys because I was comfortable > > with > > {,} to go {back,foreward} > > which was replaced by some other keys which are used

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:03:37AM -0700, Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Also, I don't have any hard data to support this, but it's obvious to > me that the volume of mail generated by virus scanners in response to > Sobig.f eclipses the volume of TMDA challenges by at least a factor o

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >>* New upstream release closes many bugs. (Closes: #51230, #61264, >> #75800, #77869, #116802, #141597, #158743, #170021, #170059, >> #193263, #196254, #197617, #202779, #81389, #200434, #196867) >>* /usr/lib/jni is now checked for JNI

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 07:37:05PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > to fix the bug. As a submitter, would you feel satisified that you had just > > gotten such a mail? > Probably yes because the mail would start with > This is an automatic notification re

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Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

> > As a submitter, would you feel satisified that you had just gotten > > such a mail? > Yes, I would. I would then know that I could fetch the new release to > see if the problem was really fixed in this release. I must agree with Adam, and IIRC, there has alreadu been said on that list that it

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

on Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:03:34AM +1000, Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:35, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Which is a damned good reason for Debian not to package > > viruses and spam mailers. Or tools which can be readily subverted as > > such. > > My Postal prog

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 03:09:48PM +0200, Andreas Metzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Karsten M. Self wrote: > [...] > > SpamAssassin achieves a false-positive rate (non-spam reported as spam) > > of 5% with a default threshold of 5. This can be dramatically improved > > using a whitelist, to ~

Re: New release of ifupdown planned

Quoting Thomas Hood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The ifupdown package hasn't been touched by its maintainer for over > two years and it is about time some of its problems were addressed. > > Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts > to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is app

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

on Thu, Aug 28, 2003, Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So, I guess we should add virus scanners to the list of verboten software. How about we qualify that; "virus scanners that stupidly send email" ? P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IWETHEY project: http://www.iwethey.org pgp0MEXmH8lzK.p

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

Diego Calleja =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Garc=EDa?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > El Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:22:28 +1000 Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > Source based distro's are more bandwidth friendly as the source can be > > reused to produce new revisions of existing packages. > > > > As

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Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:27:43AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I suggest you take these suggestions to the TMDA worker's mailing list at > > tmda.net, and file wishlist bugs against TMDA for each desired feature. > > This is an attempt to change the

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Best would be if you could easily select the additional features > compiled in, like jpeg support. > > You select gimp and it sees no libjpeg. It suggests libjpeg and one > has the choice. If libjpeg is then installed all packages that can use > libjpeg will also pop

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030828 03:50]: > > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > We've often had whining here about sid breaking something production > > > critical. Well, sid is not meant to be used for that, but enough > >

Re: ITA freedict

Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: . . . > LOCPATH=/tmp/usr/lib/locale dictfmt --locale > ($LOCALE_NAME).$(LOCALE_CHAR= SET) ought to have the desired effect. > All locale-related glibc functions should respect the value of LOCPATH Thanks, Steve. It works as advertised now. I

Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 13:28:40 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Allan Wind) wrote: > On 2003-08-28T13:20:20-0400, Georg Nikodym wrote: > > You know, I've been reading people say this over and over again. > > Please stop because in the case of galeon it has not been true since > > 1.2. > > It worked for me

Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)

On 2003-08-28T13:20:20-0400, Georg Nikodym wrote: > You know, I've been reading people say this over and over again. Please > stop because in the case of galeon it has not been true since 1.2. It worked for me with Galeon 1.3.7, and I guess for those other people... ;-) /Allan -- Allan Wind P.

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

Quoting Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I suggest you take these suggestions to the TMDA worker's mailing list at > tmda.net, and file wishlist bugs against TMDA for each desired feature. This is an attempt to change the subject: The issue at hand is the cited maintenance (and acceptance) i

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:29:31AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > [Short version: see the patch below.] (after a few days w/o answers from Snort's maintainer) Sander, any comments wrt to this patch? Please at least say wether you are going to forward this to Snort maintainers

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 01:42:53AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > I disagree with your conclusions regarding putting viruses in Debian. I > > > think it would be a useful service for people who analyse such things to > > > have copies of virus

Re: New release of ifupdown planned

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:14:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:36:31PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > > Since the maintainer of ifupdown doesn't answer repeated attempts > > to contact him by e-mail, I suppose it is appropriate to report > > here that there is a group of p

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:35:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Thanks to all who've commented on this topic. Interesting reading. Likewise, Karsten. That was a very well written rebuttal to a C-R systems. You followed up with suggetions on using C-R only as a last resort in a mail managemen

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:10:07PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:21:22AM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:35:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > - TMDA should carry a warning to the user about possible consequences > > > of activating t

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Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:35, Karsten M. Self wrote: > Which is a damned good reason for Debian not to package > viruses and spam mailers. Or tools which can be readily subverted as > such. My Postal program can be used for DOS attacks on mail servers, and has been used for such on at least one occ

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:03:37AM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > Also, I don't have any hard data to support this, but it's obvious to me > that the volume of mail generated by virus scanners in response to Sobig.f > eclipses the volume of TMDA challenges by at least a factor of 10. So far, > I h

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

[Adam Heath] > As a submitter, would you feel satisified that you had just gotten > such a mail? Yes, I would. I would then know that I could fetch the new release to see if the problem was really fixed in this release.

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:21:22AM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:35:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > - TMDA should carry a warning to the user about possible consequences > > of activating the C-R mechanism, including sending spam, risking > Sorry, but no. I

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Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:32, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > I disagree with your conclusions regarding putting viruses in Debian. I > > think it would be a useful service for people who analyse such things to > > have copies of viruses in usable form. > > The EICAR.COM test pattern exists solely for tha

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:35:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > #2, Misplaced burden, is the reason for the 'grave' severity. People have a right to ask that unkown people that e-mail them confirm the e-mail. I'm sorry you don't agree with this, but your opinion is hardly justification for a g

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:03:34AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:35, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > Which is a damned good reason for Debian not to package > > viruses and spam mailers. Or tools which can be readily subverted as > > such. > > My Postal program can be used for D

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

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Bug#207643: ITP: monster-masher -- GPL'ed mash'em-up action game for GNOME

Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-28 Severity: wishlist * Package name: monster-masher Version : 1.2 Upstream Author : Ole Laursen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.cs.auc.dk/~olau/monster-masher/ * License : GPL Description : GPL'e

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:35:14PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > That's why it's better to get rid of generic MX secondaries (IOW > secondaries which are not under you administrative control). The Which is fine if you're lucky enough to have root on a set of conveniently distributed hosts... >

Re: Bits from the RM

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:44:09PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:31:51PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > IMO, people who can't keep up with debian-x in its current state > > > probably don't have the tim

Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

* Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-28 13:06]: > Le jeu 28/08/2003 à 12:35, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit : >> About the name of the package: Discussable, but I don't really know >> what to use else. The package is simply called tetrinet upstream. > > Why not split into tetrinet-server and t

Bug#207640: ITP: xoops -- XOOPS is a dynamic oject-oriented web portal system written in PHP

Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-28 Severity: wishlist * Package name: xoops Version : 2.0.3 Upstream Author : Kazumi Ono, Goghs Cheng, et al, See [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.xoops.org/ * License : GPL Descripti

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

Karsten M. Self wrote: [...] > SpamAssassin achieves a false-positive rate (non-spam reported as spam) > of 5% with a default threshold of 5. This can be dramatically improved > using a whitelist, to ~98% in my experience. This is not the best > performance of all filters, so makes a somewhat ge

Re: New release of ifupdown planned

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 09:50:12PM -0700, Joshua Kwan wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:14:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > The term is "an ifupdown NMU". > For crying out loud, it's been NMUed four times in a row already.. Yes, all of which were checked over by me first, and done with appro

Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

* Alex de Landgraaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-28 13:52]: > Would like to note that tetrinetx and gtetrinet are already in Debian. > Tetrinetx is the game server voor tetrinet, gtetrinet is the gtk > tetrinet client. I'm fully aware of this. > Maybe something like tetrinet-ncurses is in order?

Re: Bits from the RM

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:31:51PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > IMO, people who can't keep up with debian-x in its current state > > probably don't have the time to be the kind of committer who can > > measurably help me get 4.3.0

Bug#207636: ITP: libjabber-ruby -- Ruby client library for the Jabber instant messaging platform

Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-28 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libjabber-ruby Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Richard Kilmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://rubyforge.org/projects/jabber4r * License : BSD style Description

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Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:21:22PM +0200, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > Matijs van Zuijlen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> That's over two months (and two releases) old. The current galeon in > >> unstable is 1.3.7.20030813-1, which has the "Add bookmark to" submenu at > >> the top of the b

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030828 13:20]: > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Really? The latest glibc in sarge is from 2003-03-22, and there are > > currently 1103 packages waiting for glibc. > What has that got to do with anything? This was the part of the mail were

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

Just some additional data points as I have been following this and other related C-R threads for a while now. On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:35:25 +0100 "Karsten M. Self" wrote: [ Snip ] > Specific to my own experience: over half the C-R challenges (TMDA or > otherwise) I've received have been for m

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:56:36AM +0200, Rico -mc- Gloeckner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:40:46PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > If possible, perhaps you could consider whitelisting common debian.org > > address by default? [Things like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Bits from the RM

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:58:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:11:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Interested parties, please catch up on the last month's worth of traffic > > > to the debian-x

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030828 13:05]: > Actually Debian does not support i386 anymore for compatibility > reasons with other linux distriibutions. You canget the basics running > but anything that uses c++ will fail. And whats Debian without apt? The debian kernels support i48

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 04:29:09AM +0200, Diego Calleja Garc?a wrote: > Take into account the time you waste compiling. What do you want to > pay, bandwith or CPU usage? The answer isn't the same for everybody... > (if we want to touch perfection) Consider the amount of resources mirrors could sav

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Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

First note: ISP mailbox overflow due to Sobig.F knocked me off a few Debian lists, I've just resubscribed. I've got a partial copy of this thread thanks to a friend who forwarded it to me. I've also been following the discussion in the d-d archives and BTS. Thanks to all who've commented on thi

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

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Bug#207624: ITP: tetrinet -- client and server for tetrinet, a networked tetris version

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Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

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Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:03:37AM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:20:52AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:39:43 -0700, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > >Yes, it does present a very good example of poorly written C-R software. > > >Paul sho

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Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

Le jeu 28/08/2003 à 10:03, Adam McKenna a écrit : > > In which way would have TMDA avoided sending a challenge to the > > header-from: of a sobig.f instance? > > TMDA doesn't send challenges to From: addresses, it sends them to the > envelope sender (Return-Path) address. Nice, but sobig.f also f

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Bug#202419: any idea of hwen this will be uploaded?

Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-28 Followup-For: Bug #202419 Hi Leo, My brother just got a webcam. Do you have packages ready? If so, can you upload them or provide an URL? Thanks, Jordi -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Lin

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:20:52AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:39:43 -0700, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Yes, it does present a very good example of poorly written C-R software. > >Paul should switch to TMDA. > > In which way would have TMDA avoided sending a

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030828 03:50]: > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > We've often had whining here about sid breaking something production > > critical. Well, sid is not meant to be used for that, but enough > > people do. (In other words: I don't trust the user

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation

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Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:40:46PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > If possible, perhaps you could consider whitelisting common debian.org > address by default? [Things like [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], etc.] And would probably defeat the purpose since spammers would kno

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

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Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

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Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

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Re: New release of ifupdown planned

On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 02:14:13PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > The term is "an ifupdown NMU". For crying out loud, it's been NMUed four times in a row already.. > You certainly should not be considering hijacking it. Why not? Do you have a new maintainer release which acknowledges NMUs, incorp

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation

On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:37:12PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Joel Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > This argument would carry more weight with me if it were possible to either > > A) test the upload *completely* before making it (IE, catch all possible > > FTBFS bugs or other quirks that h