Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:36:07AM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > If there was a keyring where peoples keys would only be accepted if it > were signed by someone in the developer keyring, then it would > > 1) Extend debians web of trust. > > 2) Debian would be taking more responsability for its

Re: ViewCVS perpetually busted with Subversion repositories

2003-08-25 Thread Takuo KITAME
> Thank you, but I'm afraid I don't have the time to maintain my own fork > of ViewCVS. > In my opinion: > * Debian's ViewCVS package should be hijacked, or the maintainer > should get more serious about dealing with the problems his > packaging of a CVS snapshot cause

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 03:15:25PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au): > > It's the NMUer's responsibility to fix these bugs too. > > > (One possible way of handling this, might be to have translation people > > support each other by having random non-

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:58:31PM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 09:30:19PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > Just about everyone else appears to feel all they should care about is > > the changes they make in their NMU instead of actually caring about the > > package and t

Bug#206187: apt-get update fails to get index package list and therefore does nothing

2003-08-25 Thread Sasha Volkoff
OK, here is a complete transcription of a session, where I ran "perl -w -e """ before and after "apt-get upgrade": mafalda:~# perl -w -e "" perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = "es_ES", LC

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:00, Jerry Haltom wrote: > I'm curious how many "wtf are you thinking?" reactions can be gathered > for the idea of a per-user init.d system? Actually I think that the @reboot option for cron should be extended. There are many situations in which you may want to run per-user

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:26, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > [ OK, I'm going to think that we never will have secure system because > absolute security is against nature. ] True, so let's just get what we can. > > Why? I've used OpenWall and PaX and not found any programs that fail to > > work correctly

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:51:57 +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > also sprach Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.25.1652 > +0200]: >> If there is a single sane approach, > Well, what's the single sane approach then? So far I've heard four, > and they are all possible.

Re: Your details

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Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:46:45AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Drew Scott Daniels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Imho it's ok to close non-rc bugs on stable (main Debian developers do). > > My rational is that we only fix RC bugs on stable. > > It also has an 'archival' kind of function where

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-25 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, Jerry Haltom wrote: > [per-user init scripts] > > (yes I realize fetchmail could be started from cron, which notably also > has a similar per user idea) And it also has a similar "at startup" idea, see crontab(5). -- Sam.

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:00:03PM -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote: > I'm curious how many "wtf are you thinking?" reactions can be gathered > for the idea of a per-user init.d system? > > I see this need a bit, for users who do development with various > services, but admin's not wanting to give them r

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:18:54AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > BTS Support for tracking when bugs were changed > > - AFAIK, already been worked on > > This will be more important when there are a large number of > > users/testers using different

Bits from the RM

2003-08-25 Thread Neil Roeth
On Aug 19, Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au) wrote: > * September 15th > Last major changes to major packages uploaded to unstable > * October 1st > 1st test cycle, public request for comments > Last minute fixes and changes to the installe

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-25 Thread Jerry Haltom
Oh. :D My bad. :D That definatly counts as a "wtf are you thinking!" Thanks! On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 19:33, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003, Jerry Haltom wrote: > > > [per-user init scripts] > > > > (yes I realize fetchmail could be started from cron, which notably also > > has a simil

Re: Updating packages' l10n without risk (~unrelated to previous)

2003-08-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:27:44PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:10:06AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > > > And, as Steve pointed out, translation stuff is minimalistically > > > invasive so this does not require an enor

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 12:03:43 -0600 "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is the goal? To indicate that the e-mail signed came from > someone in possession of person X's private key. X's public key can > be put up on existing public key servers. There are already numerous > public

Re: 0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Braakman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:22:34PM +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > I know the default answer is that it's the package maintainer's decision > - but I don't know what to decide! I suggest you go with gut feeling :) Imagine a year from now. You're at a geekly convention. Someone walks up to you and s

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Drew Scott Daniels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=183719 and bug 189267 > say: > DSA 297 closes these bugs. It may be worth noting that potato was not > affected. > What other security issues are there? Let's first start by telling that my back

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-25 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Thus, it can't detect potentially harmful traffic. > That's not correct, it cannot detected _new_ potentially harmful traffic. > There's quite a lot of potentially harmful traffic (stable) snort can > detect. The fact that it's not up

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, GOTO Masanori wrote: > It was reported by joshk on IRC, but I'm not still clear where this > problem come from. Example: > > ultra30:~> dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version > Version: 2.3.2-3 > ultra30:~> dpkg -s dpkg | grep Version > Version: 1.10.10 >

User Based Init

2003-08-25 Thread Jerry Haltom
I'm curious how many "wtf are you thinking?" reactions can be gathered for the idea of a per-user init.d system? I see this need a bit, for users who do development with various services, but admin's not wanting to give them root for one reason or another. Such as, apache or other web servers. Fet

Re: 0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lun 25/08/2003 à 21:22, Mark Howard a écrit : > Should we have another measure for when packages are releasable in > addition to RC bugs. For example, does having >100 minor bugs means that a > package is unsuitable for stable? > I know the default answer is that it's the package maintainer's de

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:24:11AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > Really, the way to fix this package X needs data Y to be up-to-date is to: > > a) separate data from the package (Nessus plugins are available in the > > 'nessus-plugins' package and can be updated separately, for example) > > sno

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-25 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:33:28PM +0900, Fedor Zuev wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > > >Fedor Zuev, missing the point AGAIN, said: > >>I cannot see any connection between disagreement with anyone > >>opinion, and the right to censor somebody else's opinion, so > >>a

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

2003-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:26:29 +0200, horrorvacui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:50:18 -0500 > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:16:21 +0200, horrorvacui >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > This is my view: the kernel headers and the config

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 23:33:28 +0900 (IRKST), Fedor Zuev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > "Why that ugly, non-free GPL license demand from me to > distribute source code? Source would still be freely available from > the FSF website! Lack of forced distribution do not harm a freedom!" > Agree?

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Quinson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 03:15:07PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > I'm not against translations. I did the same error than Sven when reading your first definitive statement. Apologies again. > Perhaps even have a system where > translations can be done without NMU's and have a seperate system for

Re: Objections to #156161?

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas Hood
tags 156161 wontfix thanks On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 17:43, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The existence of starts scripts alone is sufficient to get the right > behaviour: > > old level | new level | affect > --+---+ > | | no change (if it runs don't kill i

Re: 0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My initial thoughts were that many minor bugs and wishlist items as well > as a general unpolished feel should stop a package getting into stable. > There are many reasons, however for including galeon. > > Should we have another measure for when package

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > BTS Support for tracking when bugs were changed > - AFAIK, already been worked on > This will be more important when there are a large number of > users/testers using different distributions - sid and experimental. changed? The time since the last messag

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:11:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 03:13:11AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:49:03AM +0200, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > > Do you have some Official Opinion(tm)[1] as the RM about what KDE, gcc, > > > X, > > > gno

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.25.1652 +0200]: > If there is a single sane approach, Well, what's the single sane approach then? So far I've heard four, and they are all possible. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f.

Re: Objections to #156161?

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas Hood
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 16:24, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > It is up to the administrator to understand that this will break upgrades > in weird ways if a service absolutely HAS to be restarted, since that > restart will simply not happen. Yes, restart will not happen if the current runlevel

0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-25 Thread Mark Howard
Hi, I've started a discussion on debian-gtk-gnome (galeon not in Debian stable) about not shipping a package because a stable upstream release has not been made. There are no major problems with the package, just minor issues and feature requests. There have been some interesting responses to thi

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Stephen Frost
* Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 12:03:43PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > I've never indicated in any way that the Debian project doesn't need > > translators. Please reread my statements. > > No, but stephen has hinted at such, and my original mail was addr

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > So, I think I'm not slandering them or at least that isn't my > intention. I apologize if I did. Slander wasn't the correct word. It's just not a good idea to malign a whole set of coders and programs without solid reasoning behind it. >> As far as I

Re: Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Joey> Steve Langasek wrote: >> - It will now be possible to choose md5 vs. crypt passwords at >> install time without violating policy. (Currently, a number of >> conffiles are being modified by maintainer scripts in order to

Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-25 Thread Mark Howard
Hello, I'm glad to hear so many people agreeing with the RM's plans and even more glad to see so many things being done to make this seem plausible! I'm one of those developers who has cvs and other unrealeasable packages in sid. I agree with the comments about moving these to experimental, kee

Updating packages' l10n without risk (~unrelated to previous)

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Quinson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:10:06AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > And, as Steve pointed out, translation stuff is minimalistically > > invasive so this does not require an enormous amount of attention > > after the NMU. > > Yes, but there are new li

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:56:38AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > I'm personally only really familiar with ISC's dhcpd3-server, but have > you even read the code written by Ted Lemon? Just randomly slandering > programmers when you are not intimately familiar with their code isn't > something that s

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Quinson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:19:57PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > With the former (and still widely used) method for translating debconf > > Is anyone maintaining statistics on how widely used the original Debconf > scheme is?

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:16:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:35:17AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > > > > Because there is no need for it to change. > > > > Err, why not, > > What is the goal? To indicate th

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 12:03:43PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:16:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:35:17AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > > > > Because there is no need for it to change. > > > > Err, why not, > > What is the goa

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
In response to several issues raised... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=191105 Not having updated signatures is not an issue that should keep snort out of stable as administrators may write their own signatures for snort. Perhaps however a wishlist bug asking for a comment

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 12:11:07PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > If you have a specific policy that allows you to only be interested in > ancient attacks, good for you. We cannot expect our users to be in such > a position. Maybe you are not interested in new attacks (say, about a year old

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

2003-08-25 Thread horrorvacui
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 19:50:18 -0500 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:16:21 +0200, horrorvacui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > > This is my view: the kernel headers and the configuration used when > > compiling a stock kernel are to be viewed as an *integral par

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:16:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:35:17AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > > Because there is no need for it to change. > > Err, why not, What is the goal? To indicate that the e-mail signed came from someone in possession of person X

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > There are some of them: vsftpd, pure-ftpd, udhcp, uschedule ... to > note just some. They are not 100% secure, but they are more secure > than software written by ISC. I'm personally only really familiar with ISC's dhcpd3-server, but have you even read

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Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:35:17AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Ste

Bug#207203: ITP: python-geoip -- python bindings for the GeoIP IP-to-country resolver library

2003-08-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: python-geoip Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : MaxMind LLC (http://www.maxmind.com/) * URL : http://www.maxmind.com/app/python * License : MIT/X like Description : p

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-25 Thread Fedor Zuev
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Nathanael Nerode wrote: >Fedor Zuev, missing the point AGAIN, said: >>I cannot see any connection between disagreement with anyone >>opinion, and the right to censor somebody else's opinion, so >>angrily demanded by you. >There's no censorship involved. *sigh* The GNU

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > keyring.debian.org has only DDs in it. I think

Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs

2003-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I went through the RC bug list and collected Bugs with trivial patches > and sorted them a bit. They realy don't need much work so if you have > a minute pick one. If you want to NMU any of them check the > then currently claimed bugs (ur

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-25 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:56:40PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > That's not correct, it cannot detected _new_ potentially harmful traffic. > There's quite a lot of potentially harmful traffic (stable) snort can > detect. The fact that it's not up-to-date does not mean that it's us

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS (was: Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring)

2003-08-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Christian Perrier wrote: > And, as Steve pointed out, translation stuff is minimalistically > invasive so this does not require an enormous amount of attention > after the NMU. Yes, but there are new libraries that get linked to, new compilers, etc.

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:10:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:22:16AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > binary-only uploads are clearly not the same. > > > Ah ? And why ? Translation changes do not interfer with the

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:25:28AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > > I've upgraded to this version and it has required me to press y to replace > > > modified conffiles in /etc/snort/rules/ about two dozen times, while I'm > > > pretty sure I never touched

Re: packages mucking in /usr/local/?

2003-08-25 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > However, the package may create empty directories below `/usr/local' > > so that the system administrator knows where to place site-specific > > files. These directories should be removed on package removal if they > > are empty. >

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-25 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > keyring.debian.org has only DDs in it. I think people were suggesting > > > using the public keyservers. keyring.de

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Milan P. Stanic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:14:12PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:48, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > > > Also I don't expect DJB to write replacements for dhcpd, dhclient, ftpd, > > > > cron, > > > > > > Maybe someone else should

Re: Objections to #156161?

2003-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This is a second call for objections to #156161 as restated > in my recent posting to this list. > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=debian-devel&m=106150585805521&w=2 > > To recap, the idea is that invoke-rc.d be modified such that > it _not_change_ the st

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 12:46:27PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Considering the disaster that the openssh update to potato was, and the > bugs it caused, I'm not sure that that's a good example to bring up if > you're *advocating* upgrading a package to a new upstream version ... Well, I was re

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Schulze
Sander Smeenk wrote: > I'm about to close 95153, 133049, 158040, 16, 170580, 173331, 176223, > 135603, 161659, 165107, 165135, 165351, 171190, 172529, 173663, 174506, > 174508, 174509, 192401, 193544, 101725, 122689, 159575, 165126, 182280, > and 189780 with a nice message telling that the bug

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 10:30:18 +0200, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > also sprach David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.25.0330 +0200]: >> In reality, it doesn't matter what directory you put modules in, >> since they all share the same namespace. You can't have two module >> files

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Andreas Barth
* Milan P. Stanic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030825 16:50]: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:14:12PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:48, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > > > Also I don't expect DJB to write replacements for dhcpd, dhclient, ftpd, > > > > cron, > > > > > > Maybe someone else

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:19:55AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > The problem is that the buglist i'm having on snort now, consists of > mainly bugs filed on the stable package of snort, which has been long > solved in the later releases of snort that didn't make it in the > release of Debian. S

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 11:56:33AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:08:52PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > > Well, either you were lucky, or you use good and well configurated mail > > tools. But if my language did need a funky encoding, I would not let my work > > depend of s

Re: stack protection

2003-08-25 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 04:14:12PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 07:48, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > > Also I don't expect DJB to write replacements for dhcpd, dhclient, ftpd, > > > cron, > > > > Maybe someone else should do that, I hope at least. > > What should be done for the

Re: Objections to #156161?

2003-08-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Thomas Hood wrote: > This is a second call for objections to #156161 as restated No objections. I am fine with the idea that we define, within Debian, that for sysv-rc no S or K symlink means "leave it alone", which in turn means "deny all requests" for invoke-rc.d. It is u

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 09:30:19PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > Just about everyone else appears to feel all they should care about is > the changes they make in their NMU instead of actually caring about the > package and the distribution. There's this feeling of "not my problem". Someone who h

Objections to #156161?

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas Hood
This is a second call for objections to #156161 as restated in my recent posting to this list. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=debian-devel&m=106150585805521&w=2 To recap, the idea is that invoke-rc.d be modified such that it _not_change_ the state of a service (i.e., neither start it nor stop it)

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 06:56:00PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > You've obviously not been paying very much attention at all then. > You should have a pretty good idea if the package is unmaintained or > not prior to doing an NMU. If it's not then you're uploading a package > which fixes some spec

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2003-08-25 Thread Sergio Gonzalez
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Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au): > New uploads will often trigger dormant bugs due to changes in the > toolchain, too. If a package hasn't been uploaded since gcc-2.95 was > current, a new upload built with gcc-3.3 will often not work even if the > only source changes were some gram

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:22:16AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > binary-only uploads are clearly not the same. > > Ah ? And why ? Translation changes do not interfer with the source code of > > the package neither. > Hummm. Technically speaking,

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Mark Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > With the former (and still widely used) method for translating debconf > > Is anyone maintaining statistics on how widely used the original Debconf > scheme is? I'm not aware of such statistics. We have the total number of strings in the new schemes.

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:22:03PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > With the former (and still widely used) method for translating debconf Is anyone maintaining statistics on how widely used the original Debconf scheme is? -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fev

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:37:03PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:19:55AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > We've been over this in debian-security before. I fixed the 1.8.4 > > package once, it got rejected, and I tried to have 2.0.x installed in > > Stable

On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 07:32:10PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > Snort depends on a set of rules to detect potentially malicious traffic. > Obviously this set of rules needs to be updates on a regular basis in > order to keep up with new security issues. The problem is that the > version of

Bug#207146: ITP: abul-bcd -- Abul-BCD is a system to maintain a library, mainly designed for french uses.

2003-08-25 Thread Gaetan RYCKEBOER
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-24 Severity: wishlist * Package name: abul-bcd Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : ABUL-BCD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.abuledu.org/modules/vitrine/index.php/telecharger-abulbcd * License : GPL Des

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 10:02:02PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > I can think off-hand of at least one other security related tool that > needs frequent updating of a ruleset: nessus. It is an active probing > tool that scans a network for vulnerable systems. If it doesn't have a > current

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:19:55AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > (...) > It's annoying now, to see what bugs really are bugs, and what are bugs You mean "are bugs related to the latest version" instead of "really are bugs". > filed

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Sander Smeenk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hi, > > I'm about to close 95153, 133049, 158040, 16, 170580, 173331, 176223, > 135603, 161659, 165107, 165135, 165351, 171190, 172529, 173663, 174506, > 174508, 174509, 192401, 193544, 101725, 122689, 159575, 165126, 182280, > and 189780 with a nic

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Mark Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > As a data point all the translations I've been sent since I can remember > (certainly since I converted my packages to use po-debconf) have arrived > as MIME attachments to bugs. If there are any problems with their > encoding they certainly haven't been

Re: packages mucking in /usr/local/?

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:06:19AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > However, the package may create empty directories below `/usr/local' > > so that the system administrator knows where to place site-specific > > files. These directories should be removed on pack

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Thanks for your time. I do really appreciate the time you're investing in a > discussion which is vital for my presonal goals inside Debian, but clearly > not for yours. I think we cannot say this from Stephen's mail. We clearly disagree on NMU/repons

Re: Bug#207139: ITP: aspell-pl -- The alternative Polish dictionary for aspell

2003-08-25 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak
W liście z pon, 25-08-2003, godz. 12:27, Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy) pisze: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-25 > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: aspell-pl > Version : N/A; reported 2003-08-25 Version : 20030825 (u

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:08:52PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > Well, either you were lucky, or you use good and well configurated mail > tools. But if my language did need a funky encoding, I would not let my work > depend of such conditions. Don't get me wrong. I mean that in such > condition,

Bug#207139: ITP: aspell-pl -- The alternative Polish dictionary for aspell

2003-08-25 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: aspell-pl Version : N/A; reported 2003-08-25 Upstream Author : [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.kurnik.pl/slownik/ * License : CREATIVE COMMONS PUBLIC LICENSE Descri

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Just about everyone else appears to feel all they should care about is > the changes they make in their NMU instead of actually caring about the > package and the distribution. There's this feeling of "not my problem". I have to correct here : when co

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 10:02:02PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > I can think off-hand of at least one other security related tool that > needs frequent updating of a ruleset: nessus. It is an active probing > tool that scans a network for vulnerable systems. If it doesn't have a > current set

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Quinson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 09:30:19PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:38:33PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > This hasn't got anything to do with NMU's. > > > > With NMU in general, maybe not. But I see this as rather relev

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Josip Rodin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I've upgraded to this version and it has required me to press y to replace > > > modified conffiles in /etc/snort/rules/ about two dozen times, while I'm > > > pretty sure I never touched any of them. That's an pretty impressive > > > amount > > > of

Bug#207129: ITP: mbot -- Generic purpose mail robot

2003-08-25 Thread Julien Danjou
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: mbot Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Dimitri Fontaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://mbot.tuxfamily.org * License : GPL Description : Generic purpose mail robo

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

2003-08-25 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.25.0330 +0200]: > In reality, it doesn't matter what directory you put modules in, > since they all share the same namespace. You can't have two > module files called module_x.o and expect it to work. Users, > however, appreciate the separati

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-25 Thread David Weinehall
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:43:55AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Andreas Metzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> Parse error. I cannot see a connection between answer and question. > > > Life's a beach. There's all of one line in the developer's re

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-25 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in > > mind that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe > > security exploits, > So, why hasn't a security update been released for it? There has been a DSA about

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