On Sat, 24 May 2003 09:51, Alan Shutko wrote:
> > The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the
> > world, in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
> > world.
>
> Well, didn't work that way last time...
They got their second choice.
--
http://www.co
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Ben Collins wrote:
> "Oh no, the Collins family has 2 acres per child...those poor kids! Uh,
> you say that 3.5 acres of your yard is a lake?"
Dredging. With a snorkel.
On Sat, 24 May 2003, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> The script can't even get everything a Debian Developer does for Debian.
> While most, if not all, active Debian Developers do packaging work,
> there's other stuff to be done -- such as taking care of autobuilders,
> being a sysadmin, ftp-master, list
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:26:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> >
> > Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc,
> > apache, some are a decent amount of work, like mailman, cvs and some
> > are close to zero work, like chrpath and xslide. People also have
> > dif
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:33:58 -0700
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Debconf" is about Debian developers trying to meet other devels and users.
> Its about trying to make us a stronger organization. Its about hacking and
> all of the other reasons we love Debian.
>
> Treating i
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:53:05PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> I just ran some stats on my APT sources (mostly Woody), and discovered
> that the distribution of number of packages per developer is very
> uneven. This is the histogram of developers with the specific number
> of packages
On Fri, 23 May 2003 11:58:45 -0300
Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
> initiative, but there are many others that are being
> excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:05:08AM -0500]:
> It is easy to take actions secure in the feeling that there
> are no consequences (which seems to be part of your complaint against
> my goverment).
Not at all. I know that if your economy suffers, mine suffers doubly so.
Mex
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:26:28PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > So, why do you think having a more even distribution is a good thing?
> > Or rather, why is the current situation so bad?
>
> indeed. Some packages are "worth" 10 "normal" packages in the amount of work
> they require.
An
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world,
> > in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
> > world.
>
> Well, didn't work that way last time...
>
Maybe
>
> Do we need some method of deciding what constitutes 'the' Debconf?
Or maybe we need to be more freeform. There is no inherent "betterness" of
say the Oslo conference over one held near Washington, DC. Maybe there are 4
of them one year and only one the next. Maybe we start holding one eve
>
> Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc,
> apache, some are a decent amount of work, like mailman, cvs and some
> are close to zero work, like chrpath and xslide. People also have
> different amounts of time available -- those who are paid to do Debian
> maintaine
Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The citizens of the US have a little more power than the rest of the world,
> in that you have a *vote* as to who gets to fuck the rest of the
> world.
Well, didn't work that way last time...
--
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks.
Look
* Petter Reinholdtsen
| I suspect a more even distribution of packages per maintainer would be
| a good thing. :)
I think your stats are wrong, at least they are different from
http://www.debian.gr.jp/~kitame/maint.cgi
Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc,
apach
I have no objection to the existence of a Debian conference in the US,
particularly given that people are clamouring for one. (I probably
won't go, though.)
However, I have been bothered by something for a while now: there is no
real way to distinguish debconf from some other Debian conference,
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
> >> You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
> >> U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how s
Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This only works if we have a _clean_ kernel-source-2.X.Y package. One of
> the reasons why maintaining kernel-patch-2.X.Y- packages is such a
> pain is the asymmetry between i386 and other arches - almost every time
> a new kernel-source package is uplo
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:01:51PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME
> > messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God
> > forbid) base64-encoded text is now di
[Derek Atkins]
> In particular, part of the problem appears to happen during the
> configure phase. In order to debug the configuration problem
> I need access to the config.log during the failed build process.
This can be fixed in the package build script (debian/rules). Just
call configure lik
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:11:57PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Matt Zimmerman]
> >> a) Can I get the hostname in my shell script another way (this could be a
> >> question for this list)?
> >
> > getent hosts foo.bar.baz
>
> getent is available on Linux and Solaris (7 and 8).
>
> It is
I just ran some stats on my APT sources (mostly Woody), and discovered
that the distribution of number of packages per developer is very
uneven. This is the histogram of developers with the specific number
of packages they maintain:
Packages Developers
1 239
2 128
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is miserable.
> I want to go somewhere warm!
You want warm? Come out to Southern California, Florida, or Hawaii for
warm weather pretty much the whole year 'round. We don't
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> My only objection to a conference in the US is the weather is
> miserable.
Which part of the US? Surely the weather in Los Angeles isn't
miserable... unless you consider the total absense of weather to be
miserable.
> I want to go somewhere warm!
107
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:10:35PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:38:09 +1000, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > PPS Be grateful that you have more control over your government than
> > I have over mine. My government obeys yours.
>
> So you can't cont
Hi,
I'm one of the core maintainers of GnuCash. The Debian Maintainer
has asked for my help in debugging some of the autobuild problems
with various Debian platforms. Unfortunately he cannot provide
sufficient information to help debug the problem.
In particular, part of the problem appears to
Michael Banck wrote:
> /me invokes azeem's law[0]. This thread has ended.
> [0] Whenever Matt Ryan enters a Flamewar, no more non-value can be added
> to it and therefore the thread will die.
I'm not sure why you see my input as non-value? Surely its not the fact that
a bunch of tightly wound gee
[Matt Zimmerman]
>> a) Can I get the hostname in my shell script another way (this could be a
>> question for this list)?
>
> getent hosts foo.bar.baz
getent is available on Linux and Solaris (7 and 8).
It is not available on Tru64 Unix 5.2, Irix 6.5.15, Mac OS X 10.2,
HP-UX (11.00 and 11.22) an
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:01:46PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> > That being said, there is certainly a difference between "projects which
> > fork Debian to make a new distro (i.e. providing own versions of existing
> > Debian packages)" vs. "projects which add packages of their own (outside
> >
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:56:06PM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> I guess that subproject-howto can be the start to 'Debian
> Subproject Guidelines' or 'Debian Subproject Policy'.What do you
> think, Ben?
Sure, it could be a start. The subproject-howto is intended to be a
hands-on guide to creat
Hi,
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 03:14:48PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003, Marc Singer wrote:
>
> > Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
> > voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
> > loud) is a 'good fellow'.
>
> Well s
> That's funny considering just how many people are risking their LIVES to
> get here. Then again, maybe its not, maybe its an insult to the ones
> who've died trying to get here over the years.
I don't think not wanting to go somewhere is an insult to other people who do
want to go there.
> >
On 2003.05.23 16:06, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> [...]
> Just because nobody proposed it? debian-lex started no so much ago,
> and it was simply somebody proposing it and creating and mantaining
> it.
>
> BTW, apt-get install subproject-howto
Hi,
I guess that subproject-howto can be
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 07:07:19PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote:
> > > If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the
> > > USA is in so many wars.
> >
> > Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly.
>
> Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools.
> One only
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Marc Singer wrote:
> Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
> voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
> loud) is a 'good fellow'.
Well since you asked. I think GWB is a 'good fellow'.
> I'm supposing that all of us agr
El día 23 may 2003, Gustavo Franco escribía:
> Hi,
>
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
> initiative, but there are many others that are being
> excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
>
> - Guidelines to Debian subp
On 2003.05.23 15:10, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> [...]
> That being said, I do believe we need a better (more comprehensive) list of
> such projects with higher visibility on the web site. But that list will
> likely consist of pointers both to www.d.o and other sites
> (people.debian.org, alioth, a
> My government may do things in a fashion that could be
> improved (to put it mildly), but as a people, we are generally
> benevolent, until something impinges on our consciousness and makes
> us take notice. And given our collective attention span, it takes a
> lot.
I'm not a DD but I
> > If your countrymen share that sort of attitute it explains why the
> > USA is in so many wars.
>
> Yeah. We rarely suffer fools gladly.
Stop it, you're killing me. People from the USA describing others as fools.
One only has to look at the dross in US newspapers and TV news bulletins to
unders
On 2003.05.23 13:56, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> [...]
> Debian Jr. is a personal subproject[0] within Debian. It is my chosen area
> of focus for Debian, and as such, the only "blessing" I have had from the
> Debian project for it is the little parcel of web space I have for the
> Debian Jr. home p
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 07:37:21PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> The fact a project is hosted somewhere usually imply some special
> relations to his host.
Sure.
> So even if, for Debian people, being hosted on www.debian.org is not a
> reliable indicator, it's highly possible that many persons rel
> I don't think there is any definition for what an "official" Debian
> subproject is. And even if there were, whether it's on www.debian.org or
> not would not be a reliable indicator. I choose to use www.d.o for Debian
> Jr. because it is convenient for me to keep the pages there. Other
> subp
Stephen Frost dijo:
> Those who have concerns or political issues need not attend but that
> should not stop the conference from happening if there are enough
> people who are interested.
Absolutely true, but I found Canada much mor affordable than the States
last summer ;-)
--
I would
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:03:38AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> Marc Singer wrote:
> > (Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.)
> >
> > On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> > > Incidentally "North America" != "USA".
> >
> > And your point is
On 2003.05.23 12:51, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't?
You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/
It's hard to discern useful information when you s
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:38:09 +1000, Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Fri, 23 May 2003 03:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of living
>> of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my government
>> (which I have little con
On Thu, 22 May 2003 20:55:31 -0700, Marc Singer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
> voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
> loud) is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree that
> he's a snake-o
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:43:22 -0500, Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> It may be too little if only one person does it... But I know *MANY*
> people who simply will avoid (to de extent possible in Mexico, at
> least) buying any American goods.
> In my particular cas -and I think many other
On Fri, 23 May 2003 12:21:05 +1000, Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries to
>> hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and
Marc Singer wrote:
> (Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.)
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> > Incidentally "North America" != "USA".
>
> And your point is, what?
that north america contains not one, but three countries: Candada, USA,
and
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:39AM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> > bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME
> > messages for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God
> > forbid) base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable
"Goulais, Raphael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ?
> Perhaps Morgon wants to become a DD ... and packaging fltk1.1 could be an
> interesting work for him, and could give him some help in the process of
> displaying interest
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:58:05PM +0200, Stefan Schwandter wrote:
> spiralsynthmodular (http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/) : a modular
> software synth. Needs fltk.
I'll take this one.
--
Chris
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On Fri, 23 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages
> for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid)
> base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition,
> attachments are now only displayed as a downlo
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:51:14PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> > Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> > and many others[1] aren't?
>
> You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/
>
> It's hard to
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
> initiative, but there are many others that are being
> excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
>
> - Guidel
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:58:45AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
> and many others[1] aren't?
You're on crack. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-desktop/
It's hard to discern useful information when you start out by showing you
haven't done t
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 04:28:59PM +0200, Goulais, Raphael wrote:
> > > None taken. And no, I am not.
> > [a DD]
> >
> > OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1.
>
> Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ?
> Perhaps Morgon wants to become a DD ... and packag
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:04:05AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> To make it more interesting, Matt Zimmerman revealed[2] that merging all
> kernel source packages would save space of one CD from our archive and our
> CD images.
I was probably exaggerating slightly; I did not do the calculations.
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages
> for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid)
> base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form.
I should mention also that to get a base
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:28:34AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> > And it generally causes confusion in bug submitters' mind: how many of
> > them knows the difference between a fixed and a closed bug? A brief
> > note about NMU changes incorporation in changelog and closing those
> > bugs in BTS
Hi,
Why Debian Desktop subproject is on official website
and many others[1] aren't? The Debian Desktop is a good
initiative, but there are many others that are being
excluded from the website.I've some ideas:
- Guidelines to Debian subprojects (Do you known
what are the official and unofficial su
On Friday 23 May 2003 03:52, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> Morgon Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > None taken. And no, I am not.
> [a DD]
>
> OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1.
Does this mean that debian policy is that DD have priority over a non-DD ?
Perhaps Morgon wants to become a DD
Glenn McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500
> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries
>> to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and
>> my loved ones, and I do
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:56:46PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:45:58PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Is there any chance of these changes being merged into the debbugs
> > package? It's last update is over a year old...
>
> Actually the last upload to experimental w
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At 10:27 pm, Friday, May 23 2003, Wouter Verhelst mumbled:
> Is there any chance of these changes being merged into the debbugs
> package? It's last update is over a year old...
>
debbugs_2.4_all.deb 18-Nov-2002 22:0280k
Not quite. Well, that's experimental, but whatever.
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On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:45:58PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Is there any chance of these changes being merged into the debbugs
> package? It's last update is over a year old...
Actually the last upload to experimental was Sun, 17 Nov 2002. But yes,
there should really be an upload to unstab
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 05:58:15PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> That's not a problem, you just have to run diff between the source tree for
> the platform in question and the Linus tree.
This only works if we have a _clean_ kernel-source-2.X.Y package. One of
the reasons why maintaining kernel-pa
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages
> for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid)
> base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition,
> attachments are n
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 11:20:32AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> bugs.debian.org's web interface now decodes each part of MIME messages
> for display, so for example quoted-printable and (God forbid)
> base64-encoded text is now displayed in a readable form. In addition,
> attachments are now only d
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Manoj emphasized[1] that using one single kernel source package per
> kernel version and maintaining several patch packages for each
> architecture which finally build our kernel-image-$version packages is
> possible.
It seems that there is some confu
Hi,
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Martin Schulze wrote:
Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans
coming into the country.
Two of the people
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:12:35AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> And it generally causes confusion in bug submitters' mind: how many of
> them knows the difference between a fixed and a closed bug? A brief
> note about NMU changes incorporation in changelog and closing those
> bugs in BTS
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On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:39:55PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > >
> > > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
> >
> > Ugh
On Fri, 23 May 2003 17:04, Martin Schulze wrote:
> I wonder if some people (Maybe Manoj and Russell, who are both quite
> competent) could help with this effort.
I would love to contribute, however at the moment I am over-committed already.
Progress towards getting SE Linux support in main is goi
Frank Gevaerts wrote:
> On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 10:15:54AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >
> >
> > I could use some non-mac m68k boxes to do exactly that :-)
> >
>
> Does that include boxes that are not supported by the kernel yet ? I
> have a VME 68030 board with full hardware documentation
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 09:04:05AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Only a few people will probably have noticed the mess resulting from
> > tons of different kernel packages in the stable (and unstable)
> > distribution. Not only there are several versions of kernel source
Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> > While convenient for american developers, there are rather a number of
> > non-american developers who will not set foot on American soil, due in
> > part to the DMCA and (I imagine) the apparent dangers to non-americans
> > coming into the country.
>
> Two of the people I
Martin Schulze wrote:
> Only a few people will probably have noticed the mess resulting from
> tons of different kernel packages in the stable (and unstable)
> distribution. Not only there are several versions of kernel source in
> each architecture, they are also different for most architectures.
Hello,
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:45:51PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> I'm going to focus only on your claim that this page shows an example
> of the violation of monotonicity by Manoj's proposal.
>
> Monotonicity (http://electionmethods.org/evaluation.html#MC) requires
> "With the relative order
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