On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:55:31PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote:
> Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
> voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
> loud) is a 'good fellow'.
Probably because it's completely off topic for this mailing list. Take
(Unintentionally, I first sent the reply to you directly.)
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 02:09:24PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> Incidentally "North America" != "USA".
And your point is, what?
> A Canadian conference would be in North America and satisfy the
> objections of people who don't like th
Perhaps we can look at this a different way. I haven't read anyone
voicing the opinion that GWB (can't say the name of the beast out
loud) is a 'good fellow'. I'm supposing that all of us agree that
he's a snake-oil salesmen of the odious kind, interested most in
lining his pockets and the pocket
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 01:00:58AM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote:
> Hello,
This is off-topic for debian-devel -- we have a -vote list for discussion
of votes, please use it. Followups to -vote.
In,
> http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/comp/vote.html
you claim:
] Generalised Strategy
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:51:33PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> > Admin installs from cd. Admin runs programs. Admin finds something he
> > thinks
> > is a bug. Admin reads changelog to see if the bug existed previously.
>
> hmm.. why would he do tha
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On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 09:51:33PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> Admin installs from cd. Admin runs programs. Admin finds something he thinks
> is a bug. Admin reads changelog to see if the bug existed previously.
hmm.. why would he do that?
Greetings
Bernd
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On Fri, 23 May 2003 03:20, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> You are taking personal actions inimical to the standard of
> living of me and my loved ones in retaliation for actions by my
> government (which I have little control over), and you expect me to
> roll over and congratulate you all on
On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:11:23PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> > Consider the admin, who discovers some bug. They look at the changelogs for
> > the problem package, seeing if it had a similiar bug. Also, consider that
> > this system is not online, a
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And I know of approixmatly zero Americans who have reason to boycott
> Canada.
Er, well. I doubt there's a government in existance that hasn't done
something objectionable enough to piss off a foreigner somewhere (e.g.,
recent european attempts to export t
On Thu, 22 May 2003 12:20:39 -0500
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me clue all of you in: anyone who takes a stand and tries
> to hurt the US economy, I see as a taking action inimical to me, and
> my loved ones, and I do *NOT* see that as friendly action.
What you say
Morgon Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> None taken. And no, I am not.
[a DD]
OK, then, I'm going ahead and taking fltk1.1.
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On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:11:23PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote:
> Consider the admin, who discovers some bug. They look at the changelogs for
> the problem package, seeing if it had a similiar bug. Also, consider that
> this system is not online, and the admin has no network connection.
Well, an adm
On Thu, 22 May 2003, Brian Nelson wrote:
> If you don't do this, the original bug submitters will see a bug has
> been fixed, but probably not remember what the bug was, especially if he
> or she filed multiple bugs for the package. Furthermore, it's a real
> pain to have to look at the BTS, and
> On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 04:57:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > "Hard to understand"? We'd require a certain level of voter approval
> > before we'll consider an option -- options which don't achieve that
> > can't win. How is this "hard to understand"?
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 12:50:02AM +020
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:10:28PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
>> * Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030522 21:35]:
>> > Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
>> > Do it using BTS directly.
>>
>> The developers r
Em Thu, 22 May 2003 01:26:27 +0200, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escreveu:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > It's much more helpful to write this as:
>
> yes of course, but the question is where the line between helpfulness and
> usefulness is :)
>
> At l
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:33:05PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> Shall I go on?
No.
Michael
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* trinityBunny doubles flips in the room, slow motion rotates around
jbailey waves h at him in fast motion and stands still.
Hello,
For those of you, who want to make a well-informed decision
in the upcoming general resolution about our voting system,
the following web page should be interesting.
http://www.mathematik.uni-kl.de/~wwwstoch/voss/comp/vote.html
There I put together pointers to all relevant information
Hello Raul,
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 04:57:18PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> "Hard to understand"? We'd require a certain level of voter approval
> before we'll consider an option -- options which don't achieve that
> can't win. How is this "hard to understand"?
The thing which is hard to understa
This one time, at band camp, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > No, it does not _recommend_ that, don't misrepresent it!
> >
> > [...]
> > "It is an old tradition to acknowledge bugs fixed in non-maintainer uploads
> > in the first changelog entry of the proper maintainer upload, for in
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:58:35PM +0200, Sebastian Muszynski wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I am getting a lintian error, binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath although i run
> configure with --disable-rpath option. It is no automake problem... i've
> remake all automake stuff to check this.
>
> ./configure --
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
>> It's much more helpful to write this as:
>
> yes of course, but the question is where the line between helpfulness and
> usefulness is :)
>
> At least I think it is not a good idea to tal
Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
>> > directory-administrator (1.3.5-1) unstable; urgency=low
>> > .
>> >* New Upstream Version (closes: #176227, #188308, #90276)
>>
>> Changelog abuse. This is only a valid entry if a
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 05:27:40PM -0400, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> > > > > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
> > > >
> > > > Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> > > > Do it using BTS directly.
> > >
> > > Debian Developers' Reference
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:10:28PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> * Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030522 21:35]:
> > Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> > Do it using BTS directly.
>
> The developers references tells that both methods are allowed in
This one time, at band camp, Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
> > >
> > > Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> > > Do it using BTS directly.
> >
> > Debian Developers' Reference actual
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 03:33:29PM -0400, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> > > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
> >
> > Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> > Do it using BTS directly.
>
> Debian Developers' Reference actually recommends doi
This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron M. Ucko) wrote:
> > > fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit.
> >
> > I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because
> > one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these.
>
> No offense, but are
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> >
> > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
>
> Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> Do it usin
* Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030522 21:35]:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
> Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> Do it using BTS directly.
El día 22 may 2003, Francesco Paolo Lovergine escribía:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> >
> > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
>
> Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> Do it using BTS directly.
* Francesco Paolo Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> >
> > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
>
> Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> Do it using BTS directly.
He'
Morgon Kanter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This one time, at band camp, Stefan Schwandter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit.
>
> I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because
> one if my ITPs (Quat) d
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 08:49:52PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> >
> > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
>
> Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> Do it usin
This one time, at band camp, Francesco Paolo Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
> >
> > >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
>
> Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
> Do
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:24:42 -0700, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>> reopen 192068 thanks
>
>> John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>> Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:40:18 +0100 Source: ptkei
>>> Binary: ptkei Architecture:
> As other people have said: I'm not going, but I don't object to a
> conference in the US per se.
Same here. Even if I had the money to attend, I wouldn't like to travel to the
US because of the new copyright and anti-terrorist laws. Still, I think it's
a good idea to arrange a conference for t
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 12:31:14PM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote:
>
> >* Acknowledge NMU (closes: #174301, #172803, #179036, #177616)
Ugh, also this one. Do not use changelog for closing fixed bugs.
Do it using BTS directly.
--
Francesco P. Lovergine
* Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> It's really not any more expensive to travel to Toronto or Vancouver
> than it is to travel a similar distance inside the US[1]. Once you get
> there you'll find that the conference is cheaper since the Canadian
> dollar is (still) weaker than the US dollar.
On Wed, 21 May 2003 12:24:42 -0700, Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> reopen 192068 thanks
> John O'Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Format: 1.7 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 21:40:18 +0100 Source: ptkei
>> Binary: ptkei Architecture: source all Version: 1.18.0-4
>> Distribution: unstable
Miles Bader dijo [Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:06:17PM +0900]:
> Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
> > who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
> > it was at war.
>
> You mean the iraq war? What's
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 05:06:24PM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> > On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
> > > > You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoid
Stephen Frost wrote:
> I don't see any problem with having conferences in the USA, or other
> places for that matter, provided there are enough people who will go to
> warrent it and there is someone willing to sponsor it. Lots of people
> might not be willing to go to the USA for political reason
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 12:17:32PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> As one of the 200+ developers in the USA I don't feel it should be
> avoided and I feel quite out in the cold most of the time when these
> conferences come around because I don't have the funds to go elsewhere.
> I don't see any prob
On Thu, 22 May 2003 22:39:02 +1000, Russell Coker
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
>> You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
>> U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel
>> about the U.S. governments acts or
This one time, at band camp, Stefan Schwandter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit.
I'd be interested in taking these over if no one else wants to, because
one if my ITPs (Quat) depends on these.
Morgon
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You said homosexuals form
On Fri, 23 May 2003 01:06, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> > > If the US economy stays down long enough then the current government
> > > won't last. Rhetoric about imaginary enemies in Iraq doesn't satisfy
> > > people who lose their jobs because of the economy sucking.
> >
> > Hm, as could be seen in Iraq,
* Mathieu Roy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Both points of view make sense.
>
> Fact is selecting a location for an event which is outside USA seems a
> good compromise for everybody.
> People that do not want to go to USA are not forced to, others that do
> not think USA should be avoided would s
Stefan Schwandter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'd be glad if someone could orphan the packages that nobody wants to
> take right now, because I don't have access to a debian system to do
> it myself.
I'd be willing to adopt fltk1.1, and will also upload a new build of
spiralsynthmodular shortly
Emile van Bergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté :
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
> > > You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
> > > U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how s
> I have heard that Hylafax has a Windows client available. (I am not sure
> if this just gives the ability to send faxes or if it also lets you view
> received faxes though).
Yes, there's "WHFC" ( http://www.uli-eckhardt.de/whfc/download.shtml ) a
client program for windows to send faxes throug
Hello!
[Please CC me!]
I have some packages left I'd like to orphan:
fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit.
spiralsynthmodular (http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/) : a modular
software synth. Needs fltk.
aseqview: displays ALSA synthesizer events.
I'd be glad i
I know have a working package (lintian clean).
Can be found here :
deb http://nthomas.free.fr/debian sid main
deb-src http://nthomas.free.fr/debian sid main
Hope this helps,
Nicolas
ps: still looking for a sponsor..
This is a consequence of its broken build-depends (Bug #193602).
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Hello all!
I am getting a lintian error, binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath although i run
configure with --disable-rpath option. It is no automake problem... i've
remake all automake stuff to check this.
./configure --disable-rpath works in so far that it sets or unsets $KDE_RPATH
but -rpath appears
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Dorland wrote:
> Could you be more specific? If there's a permission problem I'd like
> to fix it :)
I've used the root account to install some mozilla - modules into
/usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/chrome. After i changed into my normal user
account I couldn't start
Hi,
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 10:39:02PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
> > You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
> > U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about
> > the U.S. governments acts or positio
* Simon Law ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
> who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
> it was at war.
If we have a sponsor and there are enough interested parties to warrent
it I think we should do i
On Thu, 22 May 2003 17:06, Miles Bader wrote:
> You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
> U.S. going to help anything, regardless of how strongly you feel about
> the U.S. governments acts or positions?
When tourism goes down the hotel, entertainment, and airline industries
Hello.
I've started working at a GUI editor for package tags. It's called
tagcolledit and you can find it in my apt repository:
deb http://people.debian.org/~enrico/ unstable/$(ARCH)/
deb http://people.debian.org/~enrico/ unstable/all/
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~en
Hi all,
While trying to upgrade libgd-perl I get the following error:
vivacia:/home/maulkin# apt-get install libgd-perl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are
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* Package name: labrea
Version : 2.5.beta1
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* License : GPL
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* Package name: dcraw
Version : 1.110
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* URL : http://www.shore.net/~dcoffin/powershot
* License : Unknown free (see below)
Description : Th
Hi Greg,
Now that you've got this release out, have you given any thought to the
message I sent earlier about merging gdb server versions?
Here it is again in case you've forgotten:
Hi,
The current version of gdbserver in uClinux-dist only works on the m68k.
In my v850-specific version of uCli
On Wed, 14 May 2003 09:28:53 +0200
Martin Godisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:02:20 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
> wrote:
>
> > "Tormenta en un vaso de agua" in Spanish. So it seems that french
> > and spanish drink more water than tea.
>
> "Sturm im Wassergl
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 04:06:17PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
> Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
> > who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
> > it was at war.
>
> You mean the iraq war? Wha
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Le dim 18/05/2003 à 16:52, Martin Schulze a écrit :
> I also wonder if there are efforts in progress to unify the kernel
> source through more than two architectures? This would require a
> group or architecture maintainers (current kernel package mantainers)
> to work collaboratively towards this
Hello,
I think that John's modification is a good thing.
Hereby I second the amendment quoted below.
Jochen
On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 12:19:33PM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> --- proposal-srivasta Fri May 16 09:42:59 2003
> +++ proposal-jaqque Mon May 19 11:43:13 2003
> @@ -1,139 +1,139 @
Simon Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Please don't hold the conference in the U.S. I am a Canadian
> who has not stepped foot on American soil since your government declared
> it was at war.
You mean the iraq war? What's the point? How is avoiding the
U.S. going to help anything, regard
Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So unless you have a better reason
> then PCness, I'll use either as the mood strikes me :)
To be accurate, I don't think this is an example of PCness, but rather
of PR-speak, the same sort of thing that goes into press releases
(though I mean `public rel
On Sun, 2003-05-18 at 22:07, Aaron M. Ucko wrote:
> [I've already asked a few relevant individuals about this, but am
> opening it up to the list at their suggestion.]
>
> I've recently been in touch with somebody (a lawyer and professor
> concerned with government open source policy) who is inter
On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 05:03:47PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 01:42:32PM +0200, Dennis Schoen wrote:
> > > Package: ntop
> > > Description: display network usage in top-like format
> > > ntop is
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