Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
*sigh* I hate to start off my return to the Project this way, but I just can't let this one go unanswered. :^( On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > > > And please don't be offended by the .sig. > > That

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2003, Christoph Haas wrote: > Hi, Fabio... > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > Really nice job but the first side effect is already there: > > > > Package: icaclient > > Thanks for the hint. That was a test package I was uploading to

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2003, Emile van Bergen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > I think upload must be moderated somehow. Even the uploader himself claim > > that he is unsure about licence of the product. > > Well, if the packages can onl

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2003, Rene Engelhard wrote: > And that looks like it is f*cked. Is this Depends: done manually? > I do not thing dpkg-shlibdeps did that. Where is libc6? Actually i was only worried about the licence because i know it can't be there. We use it at work :-) Fabio -- Our miss

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-13 21:50]: > are you all also checking to see if people in the nm queue are still > active? If they have not been approved by their AM yet, their AM will notice and put them on hold and eventually reject them. For those who have been approved by their

[Ann] debian-bts-control.el

2003-05-13 Thread Peter S Galbraith
I rarely announce software, but this could be useful to DDs. Whenever I wanted to add tags or something to a bug report, I'd start my browser to http://www.debian.org/ -> Bug Reports -> Developers' information on manipulating bugs by email. Just to get the syntac right. So I wrote debian-bts-con

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 12 May 2003, tony mancill wrote: > Appropos of this and Colin's statement, my suggestion is to make only a > deb-src URL available on the site, and to only host source packages. For That would be one way to solve the problem. > packages destined for the Debian archive, it's critical tha

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Graham Wilson
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:55:44AM +1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Fielder George Dowding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-13 09:34]: > > I note that Yasuhiro Take ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not listed in your > > missive. > > Yes, because the criteria outlined in the first paragraph of James' > messag

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Graham Wilson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:11:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Here is a list of packages in unstable maintained by people on James's > lists. May not be complete, but I grepped for names and for emails > seperately so probably found most of them. [...] > No reply: [...] > Tor Slettnes > mindi

Re: show all Suggests packages not installed

2003-05-13 Thread Brian May
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:21:33AM -0700, Keegan Quinn wrote: > On Monday 12 May 2003 04:40 pm, Brian May wrote: > > Also, just blindly purging packages can be dangerous, in some cases old > > packages will purge files used by newer packages that are still used by > > the system. > > I'm pretty su

Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:05:38PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote: > And please don't be offended by the .sig. That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents of many messages). Refer to RFC 1855 or a

Re: Kaffe marked remove (was Release-critical Bugreport for May 9, 2003)

2003-05-13 Thread Ean Schuessler
On Fri, 2003-05-09 at 19:23, Adam Heath wrote: > This is a bug that exists in *stable*, and does *not* exist in > unstable(upstream requires the user to explicitly set a file to use, and > doesn't pick one itself). It was only filed this week. The other RC bug has > been fixed. Please mark kaff

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Halil Demirezen
> Why is it a bug for the compilation of a program to depend on one of the many > script interpreters in Debian? > > If the upstream authors want to write shell code that can only be interpreted > by tcsh in their build scripts then it shouldn't be a bug in the Debian > package as long as the t

Coming back from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, Things have finally settled down, and I once again have some spare time to devote to Debian after a 2-year absence The new sysadmin job is going well. The new child is growing up. The new house is now home. The Everquest Addiction(tm) has faded. Etc. :^) For the time being, I am getti

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 11:40:04PM -0400, Joe Nahmias wrote: > > If I may make a suggestion, a user should only be able to upload a > package that either: > > a) doesn't appear in the repository > > - -or- > > b) already has the uploader as maintainer > > - -or- > > c) has a RFA/O bug filed i

Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)

2003-05-13 Thread Clay Crouch
Folks, Things have finally settled down, and I once again have some spare time to devote to Debian after a 2-year absence The new sysadmin job is going well. The new child is growing up. The new house is now home. The Everquest Addiction(tm) has faded. Etc. :^) For the time being, I am getti

Re: About unstable

2003-05-13 Thread Nicolas Kratz
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:25:22AM +0300, Halil Demirezen wrote: > i added > deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free > to sources.list > > however, after i got updated, i got such an error. Is it because of my > utility's version or > a general problem? > > E: Dyna

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Nicolas Boullis
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > Bonjour, > > I am french and I don't regard the 'Imprimerie Nationale' rules as binding. > We are still a free country. > > Do we have such standard document for the original english description ? > No, and there is no dedicat

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Stephen Gran
James Troup said: > [2] > > No reply > - > Alexander Shinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have another email address for Alex, and have forwarded your email to him. Unfortunately, he's not in the country right now, so quicker contact is difficult. :( -- --

Re: Accepted cdrtoaster 1.12-2 (all source)

2003-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
reopen 181862 reopen 188902 reopen 125614 reopen 190924 reopen 117828 thanks On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:47:10PM -0400, Andrea Fanfani wrote: [...] > Source: cdrtoaster [...] > Version: 1.12-2 [...] > Changes: > cdrtoaster (1.12-2) unstable; urgency=low > . >* New upload. No upstream release

About unstable

2003-05-13 Thread Halil Demirezen
i added deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free to sources.list however, after i got updated, i got such an error. Is it because of my utility's version or a general problem? E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room E: Error occured while processing python2.2-imaging-tk

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:36:53PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:04:43PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > Do we have such standard document for the original english description ? > > > No, and there is

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 07:40:01AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2003 06:59, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That > > should be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh. > > Why is it a bug for the compilation of a program to

Re: OO build-depends on tcsh (Was: Debian MIA check)

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:26:42PM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:59:25PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That > > should be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh. > > ISTR that lots of the upstream build

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:21:14PM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 2003, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Le Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels écrivait: > > > page). What happened to the qa MIA database? The code's at > > > http://cvs.debian.org/mia/?cvsroot=qa

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
> On Tue, 13 May 2003 16:59:25 -0400 > "MZ" == Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MZ> MZ> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:42:03PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: >> Joey Hess wrote: >> > Luis Francisco Gonzalez >> >tcsh >> >tcsh-i18n >> >tcsh-kanji >> >> uuh, tcsh is an OpenOff

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 May 2003 06:59, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a bug in openoffice. That should > be fixed regardless of whether we keep tcsh. Why is it a bug for the compilation of a program to depend on one of the many script interpreters in Debian? If the upstream

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Joey Hess
First of all, it seems to me that the French translation is clearly correctly formatted, for French. Nice to learn about how list layout works in French. However -- Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > > The official maintainer is in _no_ way responsible for the _translated_ > > > description

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Wed, 14 May 2003 04:21, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:10:26PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Bernd is correct. It's a kernel issue. > > > > SE Linux allows you [...] > > > > SE Linux allows control [...] > > Russell, you are such a pimp. ;-) I was provoked. ;) Anyway

Re: OO build-depends on tcsh (Was: Debian MIA check)

2003-05-13 Thread Nicolas Kratz
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:59:25PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:42:03PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency > > I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it... > > tcsh as a build-dependency? Seems like a b

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > I think upload must be moderated somehow. Even the uploader himself claim > that he is unsure about licence of the product. Well, if the packages can only be downloaded by registered DDs, then the problem's solved I'd

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Juergen E. Fischer
Hi Joey, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:11:16 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Pavel Tcholakov > hylafax-client > hylafax-doc > hylafax-server Pavel responded a few days ago here to the hylafax thread (as kay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) and to a private mail I sent him last tuesday containing fix

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels écrivait: > > page). What happened to the qa MIA database? The code's at > > http://cvs.debian.org/mia/?cvsroot=qa but I can't find anything online. > > The code is setup on qa.debian.org, ju

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:05:07PM -0400, Mike Dresser wrote: > Reminds me of a "bug" in the old Icon systems that the schools used > in the early 80's or so. The immutable(+i) flag couldn't be removed, > even by the superuser because then you'd be modifying the file, which > wasn't allowed cause

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:39:46PM -0500, Drew Scott Daniels écrivait: > "echelon" in this context meaning the mailing lists? As described in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2000/debian-project-21/msg7.html > ? I guess so, yes. I don't know of any other echelon in Debian. > page)

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > Really nice job but the first side effect is already there: > > Package: icaclient > Version: 6.30-2 > Priority: optional > Section: net > Maintainer: Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Depends: libxaw7 And that looks like it is f*cked. Is this Depends: done

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Fabio... On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > Really nice job but the first side effect is already there: > > Package: icaclient Thanks for the hint. That was a test package I was uploading to stress test the dupload process on the server. It wasn't reall

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:51:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:41:49PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > > reach any of the people listed in [1] and [2] below, please feel free > > to contact them and get them to reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Is there a mnemonic for tha

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 07:42:03PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > Luis Francisco Gonzalez > > tcsh > > tcsh-i18n > > tcsh-kanji > > uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency > I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it... tcsh as a build-

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:04:43PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > Do we have such standard document for the original english description ? > > No, and there is no dedicated team to review them. > > debian-l10n-english There have b

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi Daniel, On Mon, 12 May 2003, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > We are very proud to announce the opening of the mentors project. We > have been working very hard[1] on this project since beginning of 2003. > Now the time has come to test and use it! Really nice job but the first side effect is alre

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > Bonjour, > > I am french and I don't regard the 'Imprimerie Nationale' rules as binding. > We are still a free country. > > Do we have such standard document for the original english description ? > No, and there is no dedicated te

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > We have a similar expression in (American) English. It's a "tempest in > a teapot". "Storm in a teacup" for British English. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever." pgpI2L6hffi5p.pgp Descr

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
First off, great work! Now I can remove the retirement item off my old "todo" list. [1] On Tue, 13 May 2003, James Troup wrote: > On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly > inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by > looking first at all maintainer

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
I'm glad to see this service. The Developer's Reference lists http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ as being a place to co-ordinate the sponsoring of packages. Currently it's unavailable to me (down?). Other problems I have with it include: no place to upload packages and it's for "

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:14:33AM +0200, Yannick Roehlly wrote: > In France, we have an expression that says "a storm in a glass of > water". We have a similar expression in (American) English. It's a "tempest in a teapot". [1] http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-tem1.htm -- G. Branden Ro

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:10:26PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Bernd is correct. It's a kernel issue. > > SE Linux allows you [...] > > SE Linux allows control [...] Russell, you are such a pimp. ;-) -- G. Branden Robinson| To stay young requires unceasing Debian GNU/L

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Fielder George Dowding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-13 09:34]: > I note that Yasuhiro Take ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not listed in your > missive. Yes, because the criteria outlined in the first paragraph of James' message don't apply to him. However, we are also checking for other inactive people

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, [ the following assumes the packages being orphaned ] Joey Hess wrote: > Luis Francisco Gonzalez > tcsh > tcsh-i18n > tcsh-kanji uuh, tcsh is an OpenOffice.org Build-Dependency I wouldn't take it because I don't use it, but we need it... > Tor Slettnes > mindi >

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Fielder George Dowding
Greetings James, I note that Yasuhiro Take ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not listed in your missive. He is maintainer for the Defoma package which has a large number of bug reports some of which have apparently been corrected by NMU's but not closed. There is a recent critical bug (#181749, 82 days old)

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:41:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > That's not mutually exclusive. Also, you ask who would ever wish to > delegate the maintainership of a package. I think the answer is every DD > who has filed a RFA on a package. RFA is a Request For Adoption, not a delegation. Th

Re: ABI change in libsensors1 (from lm-sensors)

2003-05-13 Thread David Z Maze
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 01:45:30PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote: >> (a) Repackaging lm-sensors 2.6.5, which would just have libsensors1 >> 1:2.6.5-1, which in turn would Conflict: with any packages that >> have compiled against libsensors1 2.7.0 (

Re: apt/dselect: E: Internal Error, Unable to parse a package record

2003-05-13 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Tue, May 13, 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Whats wrong here? something in the Packages files or on my machine? Something in apt. See #192439 and others. -- Sam.

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 02:41:49PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly > inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by > looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package > signed by (one of) their key(s)

Re: Delegations

2003-05-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:00:23AM +1000, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote: > Over the last few weeks, I have talked to several developers who are > involved in important areas of Debian. I will continue to do this in order > to get a clear picture of where help is needed. [securit

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:11:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: [snip] > Joost Kooij > xbat [snip] FWIW, Joost responded to me last Nov (gee, has it been that long ago already? :-/) for NMU'ing xbat. If he still fails to respond, I could take over the package. T -- "Uhh, I'm still not here."

apt/dselect: E: Internal Error, Unable to parse a package record

2003-05-13 Thread prox
Whats wrong here? something in the Packages files or on my machine? --- Get:1 ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main Packages [2484kB] Get:2 ftp://ftp.dk.debian.org unstable/main Packages [2481kB] Get:3 ftp://ftp.fi.debian.org unstable/main Release [82B] Get:4 ftp://ftp.dk.debian.org unstable/main

Re: show all Suggests packages not installed

2003-05-13 Thread Keegan Quinn
On Monday 12 May 2003 04:40 pm, Brian May wrote: > Also, just blindly purging packages can be dangerous, in some cases old > packages will purge files used by newer packages that are still used by > the system. I'm pretty sure that would be a bug. You should report this behavior if you see it.

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[James Troup] > On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly > inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by > looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package > signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from > that anyo

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Mike Dresser
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Paul Jarc wrote: > No, the file's metadata is stored in its own inode. But its > permission bits affect access only to its data, not to its metadata. > Metadata is always writable by the owner - otherwise you wouldn't be > able to restore your own write access after removing

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Bill Allombert
Bonjour, I am french and I don't regard the 'Imprimerie Nationale' rules as binding. We are still a free country. Do we have such standard document for the original english description ? No, and there is no dedicated team to review them. I think we should focus on provided accurate description n

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Joey Hess
James Troup wrote: > Jay Kominek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Nathan Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I happen to know of a machine Jay logged into yesterday, so I have emailed him at that account. I have mailed Nathan too, though he seems to be in the middle of a job change and move. My, a lot of folks I hate

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:48:49AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > [...] > > Regardless, I actually think it's a wonderful scaleability measure > > to provide some infrastructure that allows DDs to delegate som

Re: Debian MIA check

2003-05-13 Thread Ben Collins
> On the 12th March I sent out a maintainer ping to 191 possibly > inactive Debian developers. The list of developers was generated by > looking first at all maintainers who didn't have a source package > signed by (one of) their key(s) in unstable and then excluding from > that anyone who had bee

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Paul Jarc
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can only do that if you have write permissions to the directory the > file is in; if not: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr$ touch -d 'next year' doc; ls -ld doc . > touch: setting times of `doc': Operation not permitted > drwxr-xr-x 16 root root

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However the service > was created especially for people who e.g. have written an application > themselves and do not care about becoming a DD. I object to the conept of "people who do not care abou

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: [...] > Regardless, I actually think it's a wonderful scaleability measure to > provide some infrastructure that allows DDs to delegate some of the > packaging work to NMs in the queue, who can prove that they are worth > their salt,

Re: mailcap to mc.ext script

2003-05-13 Thread mcINEK
I found better solution. Don't generate a mc.ext file, just use run-mailcap for default action for every file. And also we can keep a few special treating files, like ie. archives. I've attached my proposition of mc.ext and I'm going to add this to a wishlist. Regards. Marcin -- .---,

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 13 May 2003 21:53, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:59:24PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > > But how can I protect _myself_ from _myself_? > > Protection from yourself, especially if you are root are extended Unix > features (like for example immutable and append only files

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: [...] > The mentors core-team is: [...] > the debian mentors core-team "core team"? So, when can we expect expulsions? >:) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. Please Cc: unless you mail -devel.

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:02:11AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > You are right. I do plan to apply in a few weeks. However the service > was created especially for people who e.g. have written an application > themselves and do not care about becoming a DD. Is that such a good thing? It might ge

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:37:46PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote: > If I understand well, you are bored because you think that the layout used > in french could be good in all languages, but the french translators sort of > kept it for themselves. > But we didn't do that because we don't think that

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:59:24PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > But how can I protect _myself_ from _myself_? you cant, since you always can change the permissions of the file back to writeable. Protection from yourself, especially if you are root are extended Unix features (like for example immu

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Laurent Defours
Hi ! Apologies are due for the thread in french in which you were not cc'ed. So impolite as it may seems, though, you adressed to the french translation team as a whole, and I think every people who jumped in this thread were willing to adopt a common standpoint on this issue before you would be g

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > > --- > > Debian Mentors Project > > > The mentors core-team is: > > Christoph Haas (Chri

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 09:33:50PM -0700, tony mancill wrote: > Appropos of this and Colin's statement, my suggestion is to make only a > deb-src URL available on the site, and to only host source packages. For > packages destined for the Debian archive, it's critical that they be > reviewed as so

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Martin Quinson wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:42:16AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > > If you really believe that the apache description should be improved than > > you file a bug against apache asking to changing layout, proposing the > > better one so that e

build issue: manual build works; dpkg-buildpackage doesn't

2003-05-13 Thread Ardo van Rangelrooij
Hi, I'm trying to build the latest version of XML::LibXML from CVS, but it won't pass the tests. At least, that depends on how I ran them: - perl Mekefile.PL; make; make test = no problem - fakeroot debian/rules clean; debian/rules build = again no problem - fakeroot dpkg-buildp

Re: mailcap to mc.ext script

2003-05-13 Thread mcINEK
W liście z wto, 13-05-2003, godz. 12:43, Andreas Tille pisze: > > Please, share with me with your opinions. > If I would be you I would file a wishlist bug against mc package and > tag it "patch" by providing your script. But first I wanna know if it what I done is good ;) So, I will wait for opi

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Martin Quinson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:42:16AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > If you really believe that the apache description should be improved than > you file a bug against apache asking to changing layout, proposing the > better one so that everyone can be alligned to it. If I understand well,

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > I won't discuss that. It probably was not nice switching to other language > but Denis was, in my point of view, asking the rest of the team (which > might not be fluent in english) Let's stop any discussion that is not focused on the o

Re: mailcap to mc.ext script

2003-05-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On 13 May 2003, mcINEK wrote: > I think, it's very good to automate generating mc.ext file. Very good idea. > Please, share with me with your opinions. If I would be you I would file a wishlist bug against mc package and tag it "patch" by providing your script. Kind regards Andreas.

Re: noicon.xpm?

2003-05-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2003-05-13 at 05:42, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > Yes, perhaps yes. I really don't think adding default icons is The Right > Thing, but I still think that'd be better than nothing. It's a matter > of taste and opinion, I guess. I think the debian swirl is ok as a default > icon on my gnome

mailcap to mc.ext script

2003-05-13 Thread mcINEK
Hi! I've just wrote a script which generates a /etc/mc/mc.ext file using information from mime.types and mailcap files. I found it very useful. It takes a list of extensions from mime.types then check if in mailcap we've got support for that extension. If yes it put this extension do mc.ext and a

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:34:08AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:02:11AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > Please bear with me but from what I was told by a number of package > > maintainers it is a really long way until one has become a DD. Just > >

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:01:49AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > Yes we are since in the first place we asked nicely to change the layout > > > back to the original one (as it was before this translation) and then you > > (..) > > > > Maintainers or developers do not have a say on how

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:02:11AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > Please bear with me but from what I was told by a number of package > maintainers it is a really long way until one has become a DD. Just > because Daniel was assigned an AM does not mean there is a guarantee he > will get his DD acc

Re: can touch(1) readonly files

2003-05-13 Thread Dan Jacobson
But how can I protect _myself_ from _myself_? I seem to recall in past UNIXes things weren't this "bad". $ id uid=1000(jidanni) gid=1000(jidanni) ... $ chmod -w -R ee $ find ee|xargs touch -d 'next year' $ find ee|xargs ls -ld dr-xr-xr-x3 jidanni jidanni 1024 2004-05-13 16:43 ee -r--r--r-

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Jean-Philippe Guérard
Hi ! Le 2003-05-13 09:42:16 +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto écrivait : > On Tue, 13 May 2003, Pierre Machard wrote: > just an examoke: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-pkg-desc > > "The long description should consist of full and complete se

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Daniel K. Gebhart (con-fuse) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Christoph Siess (CHS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why are we giving debian.net addresses to people who don't want to go > through the "pain" of authenticating themselve

Re: Do not touch l10n files

2003-05-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:12:25AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: [...] > First, thanks to Denis work, projects like DDTP are possible. Without his > po-debconf half of the DDTP would be unmanagable. Please take time to know > who you are you talking with. [...] Not really, I did n

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Yannick Roehlly
Dear Debian fellows, In France, we have an expression that says "a storm in a glass of water". I sincerely think we are in such a case. Let me summarise what happened, according to what I read on the debian-l10-french list. Once, there was a description for the Apache package usi

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:29:00AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 05:41:40PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > > Perhaps an easy thing to do would just be to show whether or not a > > > pckage is signed by a key whic

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 06:57:45AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > (...) > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-french/2003/debian-l10n-french-200305/msg00121.html > > > > The first post to the mailing list is the result of t

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Anthony... On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Uh, as far as I can tell, of the above only Daniel is even in the > n-m queue; Christoph, Ivo and Christoph appear to not be developers, > applicants, or even sponsored maintainers of any packages in the archive. You

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Denis Barbier
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 06:57:45AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, 13 May 2003, Denis Barbier wrote: > > > In this thread we were told to change the French translation because > > Apache maintainers did not like its layout. I wil

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > > --- > > Debian Mentors Project > > > The mentors core-team is: > > Christoph Haas

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Pierre Machard wrote: > Hi; > > [I reply to this message, since I am the guy who translates the > Description] > > On tue 13 may 2003 at 06:57 +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > [...] > > > Now Apache maintainers are telling us that they chose another layout > > > and we a

Re: Do not touch l10n files (was Re: DDTP issue)

2003-05-13 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 06:57:45AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: (...) > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-french/2003/debian-l10n-french-200305/msg00121.html > > The first post to the mailing list is the result of the only mail in which > i was asking Michael Bramer how to behave in t

Bug#193143: ITP: valgrind-caltree -- caltree skin for valgrind

2003-05-13 Thread Philipp Frauenfelder
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-13 Severity: wishlist * Package name: valgrind-caltree Version : 0.2.95 Upstream Author : Josef Weidendorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://kcachegrind.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description :

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