Assistance required for procps bug

2002-04-11 Thread Craig Small
Hello, I have bug #142292, #109237 and #106414 for procps. The common thing is that if System.map file is a multiple of 1024 (or 4096 not sure which) ps crashes. Thanks to Dark for getting me that far. Can someone look at 106414 and Dark's analysis and help me out here? I'm not subscribed to d

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:39:54PM -0500, David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:27:23PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: > > birthdays. Many of us haven't read _every_ posting on _every_ > > debian list for the past six years and may therefore once in > > a whi

testing: strange breakage with package moving from non-US to main

2002-04-11 Thread Colin Watson
gphotocoll just moved from non-US to main. It hasn't been compiled for all architectures yet, and the source is actually in both archives at the moment. The testing scripts rightly rejected it: trying: gphotocoll skipped: gphotocoll (152+1) got: 8+0: a-8 * alpha: gphotocoll But then it lo

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:27:23PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: > Torsten Landschoff replied that "This was the whole idea of > testing. Experience shows it does not work." > > I think testing is an excellent thing to have, since it > provides a semi-stable proto-release. Unfortunately it is > tru

Re: rsync and debian -- summary of issues

2002-04-11 Thread Martin Pool
On 12 Apr 2002, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think some more details is required regarding rproxy. I've added a lot more detail about rproxy, and my understanding of Goswin's proposal. Let me know if they're unclear. > Why is nobody actively developing it? I'm not sure what kind of

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread David Starner
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:27:23PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: > birthdays. Many of us haven't read _every_ posting on _every_ > debian list for the past six years and may therefore once in > a while bring up some issue that has been discussed previously. This isn't exactly every debian list for th

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 11:35:31AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:38:14PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: > > On Thu Apr 11, 2002 at 08:31:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Seriously: everyone reading this mail, burn a copy of Raphael's test image > > > on a CD and try boo

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:38:14PM -0600, Erik Andersen wrote: > On Thu Apr 11, 2002 at 08:31:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Seriously: everyone reading this mail, burn a copy of Raphael's test image > > on a CD and try booting it in any computers you have handy. ... > I just tested it on all

Re: rsync and debian -- summary of issues

2002-04-11 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Brian May wrote: > I think some more details is required regarding rproxy. > > Why is nobody actively developing it? > > AFAIK, it solves all the problems regarding server load discussed in > rsync, doesn't it??? No. I tested it out, and it still hits the server hard. --

Re: mail bypass spamassassin

2002-04-11 Thread christophe barbé
Ok that is it. I have increased the limit size of spamc (with -s) and the message got a nice : X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=16.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_MALFORMED,FROM_NO_USER,BADTRANS_WORM,MISSING_HEADERS version=2.11 Christophe -- Christophe Barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG FingerPrint: E0F6 F

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Thomas Hood
Johnny Ernst Nielsen: Don't worry about flames launched by cranky developers who didn't get what they wanted for their birthdays. Many of us haven't read _every_ posting on _every_ debian list for the past six years and may therefore once in a while bring up some issue that has been discussed pre

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Apr 11, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > To make things worse, 3.0 contents will at the time of release > already be about 6 months out of date. Here's a challenge for you: identify the top date in the changelog for the current version of every package in testing (3.0). I doubt there's a single

Re: mail bypass spamassassin

2002-04-11 Thread christophe barbé
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 08:07:10PM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:52:10PM -0400, christophe barbé wrote: > > I got a mail with sample.exe (2.4MB) attachment. This mail has not been > > scanned by spamassassin. I don't understand why. I use a procmail rule > > as below : >

Re: rsync and debian -- summary of issues

2002-04-11 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:15:43PM +1000, Martin Pool wrote: > There seems to be a thread about rsync and Debian packages every > couple of months. I've written up a document which tries to cover all > of the questions and debates. It's pretty informal, but hopefully > will be useful. > > http

Re: Bug#141847: O: dupload -- Utility to upload Debian packages.

2002-04-11 Thread Brian May
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:40:47AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > I am happy to take it. But a question: with the more actively > maintained dput now being quite mature, do we still need both dupload > and dput? Dumb question, but what dput, and why is one better then the other? (please leave lang

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Apr 11, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > Anthony Towns writes: > > Seriously: everyone reading this mail, burn a copy of Raphael's test image > > on a CD and try booting it in any computers you have handy. If it doesn't > > work on a machine where a potato CD does boot, please mail the lists! > >

Re: mail bypass spamassassin

2002-04-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:52:10PM -0400, christophe barbé wrote: > I got a mail with sample.exe (2.4MB) attachment. This mail has not been > scanned by spamassassin. I don't understand why. I use a procmail rule > as below : spamassassin, by default, does not check messages larger than 250k. Mess

Re: Bug#141847: O: dupload -- Utility to upload Debian packages.

2002-04-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:29:04AM +, Wilmer van der Gaast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED]@Tue, 9 Apr 2002 09:40:47 +0100: > > I am happy to take it. But a question: with the more actively > > maintained dput now being quite mature, do we still need both dup

(sin asunto)

2002-04-11 Thread GarciaTorresJ
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Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Joey Hess
Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > Do you think you could put your 6 year old attitude aside for a few > moments and take this as a contructive proposal as other normal > grownups would do? Having discussed all this before in my 6 year old tenure with Debian, no, I really don't have time to rehash it

Bug#142459: ITP: med-imaging-dev -- Debian Med packages for medical image development

2002-04-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-11 Severity: wishlist * Package name: med-imaging-dev Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : local file * License : GPL Description : Debian Med packages for medical image deve

Bug#142458: ITP: med-imaging -- Debian Med imaging packages

2002-04-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-11 Severity: wishlist * Package name: med-imaging Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Andreas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : local file * License : GPL Description : Debian Med imaging packages Part of Debian-Med Th

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"christophe" == christophe barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: christophe> Would it be possible for the new 'David D.W. Downey' to christophe> hijack the identity of the old 'David D.W. Downey' and christophe> then upload packages without getting his new key signed christophe> by a dd ?

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-11 Thread Alan Shutko
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Adding them to build-essential would take a policy amendment...but now that > we've reached a consensus on debian-devel, they can be Essential: yes > instead. That's as it should be, anyway. Now to move at least emacs from /usr to / so that it can rep

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:52:54PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 13:20, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > And build-depend on all available versions of emacs... > > That'd be silly. Instead, we should just add them to build-essential. Adding them to build-essential would take a po

Re: rsync and debian -- summary of issues

2002-04-11 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Martin Pool wrote: > There seems to be a thread about rsync and Debian packages every > couple of months. I've written up a document which tries to cover all > of the questions and debates. It's pretty informal, but hopefully > will be useful. > > http://rsync.samba.org/rs

Re: mail bypass spamassassin

2002-04-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:52:10PM -0400, christophe barbé wrote: > I got a mail with sample.exe (2.4MB) attachment. This mail has not been > scanned by spamassassin. I don't understand why. I use a procmail rule > as below : > > # SPAMASSASSIN > :0fw > | spamc -f Could it be that spamd

mail bypass spamassassin

2002-04-11 Thread christophe barbé
I got a mail with sample.exe (2.4MB) attachment. This mail has not been scanned by spamassassin. I don't understand why. I use a procmail rule as below : # SPAMASSASSIN :0fw | spamc -f :0e { EXITCODE=$? } :0: * ^X-Spam-Flag: YES junk # End of SPAMASSASSIN section And t

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:46:55PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > I am not a developer, and I am not suited for code development. > But I would like to spend untill 1St of May collecting additional > information about the release procedures. Currently that is black magic, mostly the relea

Bug#142456: ITP: enigma -- A game where you control a marble with the mouse

2002-04-11 Thread Erich Schubert
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-12 Severity: wishlist * Package name: enigma Version : 0.38a Upstream Author : Daniel Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.freesoftware.fsf.org/enigma/ * License : GPL Description : A game where you contr

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:13:49PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > Thank you Joey for being so obliging to a constructive proposal, and > thank you for your polite way of replying to my proposal. > > Do you think you could put your 6 year old attitude aside for a few > moments and take this

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:44:36PM +0200, Rune B. Broberg wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:13:49PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > > Thank you Joey for being so obliging to a constructive proposal, and > > thank you for your polite way of replying to my proposal. > > > > Do you think you

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 13:20, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:30:08PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > > > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > The byte compilation should be done when the package is built, not > > > at runtime, not at install time. > > > > So you're say

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
Good day Matt, thank you for your kind answer. > > At the current pace 3.0 may be out right around May 1St 2002. > > At that time it will have been more than 1 year and 6 months > > since the previous point release, which by then contains packages > > more than 1 year and 6 months old. > > Er, it

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
Good day Torsten, thank you for your kind answer. > > The main proposal is to introduce a fixed short Testing > > development period into the development cycle like this: > > > > 1. Feed Unstable packages to Testing for a fixed short period of > > time. 2. Freeze, bugfix, release. > > Repeat. > >

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Rune B. Broberg
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:13:49PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > Thank you Joey for being so obliging to a constructive proposal, and > thank you for your polite way of replying to my proposal. > > Do you think you could put your 6 year old attitude aside for a few > moments and take this

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
Thank you Joey for being so obliging to a constructive proposal, and thank you for your polite way of replying to my proposal. Do you think you could put your 6 year old attitude aside for a few moments and take this as a contructive proposal as other normal grownups would do? If you think I h

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Anthony Towns writes: > Seriously: everyone reading this mail, burn a copy of Raphael's test image > on a CD and try booting it in any computers you have handy. If it doesn't > work on a machine where a potato CD does boot, please mail the lists! I have a Digital Celebris GL180 that does not appe

Re: Imp 3.0/3.1 debian packages?

2002-04-11 Thread Luis Bustamante
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 12:18:42PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > Hello! > > What's the status of newer imp packages for woody/sid? Beta packages can be found at: http://tabaluga.ipe.uni-stuttgart.de/~nils/download/ Cheers, -- Luis Bustamante[EMAIL PROTECTED] ht

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-11 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:00:41 -0400, christophe barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Would it be possible for the new 'David D.W. Downey' to hijack the > identity of the old 'David D.W. Downey' and then upload packages without > getting his new key signed by a dd ? no no, he needs to get his key

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-11 Thread christophe barbé
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:47:33AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Have you done anything that I can't do as well right now? I > mean, I can download your old key, create a new one, and do all you > have outlined? > > manoj Because I am not yet an official dd (I am waiting for the

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-11 Thread christophe barbé
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:39:33AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:10:28PM -0700, David D. W. Downey wrote: > > > Not much more I can do since the old secret key and public keyrings were > > lost. It's going to have to suffice as I have taken every step possible > > to ensure

Re: how-to push a package in testing ?

2002-04-11 Thread christophe barbé
I don't understand why all theses packages are not entering woody. As Julien explained, everything seems to be clean. I believe we need some manual help. Thanks, Christophe On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 07:11:32PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Anthony Towns wrote: > > Hi *, > > [libusb-dependent pa

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 06:33:34PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:43:22AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > If there are only proprietary programs that do a specific job, and it > > is desired to have a free program for this job, then we are forced to > > reinvent th

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Erik Andersen
On Thu Apr 11, 2002 at 08:31:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Seriously: everyone reading this mail, burn a copy of Raphael's test image > on a CD and try booting it in any computers you have handy. If it doesn't > work on a machine where a potato CD does boot, please mail the lists! I just test

Intent to remove: tom, libtom2

2002-04-11 Thread Bart Schuller
Hi, I'm the maintainer of "tom", an experimental programming language. The archives contain a version from October 1999. Trying to recompile it now on a sid machine fails. Upstream development on this implementation was already dead, as they switched to a new system writen in tom itself. And ther

Re: Dependencies on libpgsql2.1

2002-04-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 05:49:45PM -0500, Colin Watson wrote: > To clarify, not all of these packages are buggy in sid. The ones (by > source package) that have a problem appear to be something like this at > the moment: > > courier-ssl dbf2sql ddt gql gtksql guile-pg libch libnss-pgsql > nets

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:09:58AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:43:22AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > > > > In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves > > > > > me so

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Keith G. Murphy
Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:18:08AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > You only need pptp-linux if you use an Ethernet attached modem instead of > > the > > USB attached modem (which is E50 cheaper). > > This does not make sence at all. PPTP is also a WAN Tunneling and VPN

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-11 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 12:43, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Witness the response to Jeroen. I don't think we can draw any conclusion from the response to Jeroen other than "a lot of us think rudeness is a bad thing". (Including even Jeroen himself, per his apology a few flames back in that thread.) -

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:20:27PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > The main proposal is to introduce a fixed short Testing development > period into the development cycle like this: > > 1. Feed Unstable packages to Testing for a fixed short period of time. > 2. Freeze, bugfix, release. > R

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-11 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > The membership also seems > to have shifted towards a more radical^H^H^H^Henthusiastic support of > _only_ free software, and helping people use whatever they wish on > Debian, while providing them with free alternatives, seems to be on > the wane

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:20:27PM +0200, Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > At the current pace 3.0 may be out right around May 1St 2002. > At that time it will have been more than 1 year and 6 months since > the previous point release, which by then contains packages more than > 1 year and 6 months

Re: Imp 3.0/3.1 debian packages?

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 12:18:42PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > What's the status of newer imp packages for woody/sid? The first place to check when you have questions about the status of a package is http://bugs.debian.org/. In this case, you would have found: * #92698: IMP3 yes it is a

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:30:08PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The byte compilation should be done when the package is built, not > > at runtime, not at install time. > > So you're saying that the maintainer should need to either create > separate pac

unable to mount the floppy disk

2002-04-11 Thread Blinky
hi. just tested the woody-bootdisks (for a installation via network). unfortunaly i can't load the driver-disks (driver-1.img and driver-2.img). i always get a critical error with the message 'unable to mount the floppy disk'. this is why i can't install debian on the hard disks (scsi-disks on an

Re: how-to push a package in testing ?

2002-04-11 Thread Julien BLACHE
Anthony Towns wrote: Hi *, [libusb-dependent packages not making it into Woody] > sane-backends has two RC bugs, one of which has been open for more than a > week. 139509 appears like it should get sane-backends to build on mips; it's > not clear what'll fix it on alpha, but that needs to happe

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:46:12AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > Oh, and 1) the Hurd isn't a kernel > > Wonderful news! Does this mean that we can expect the > '-the-linux-kernel-packages-should-all-have-linux-in-the-name-' >

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > That's fine with me. At least I'll have a lot more leisure when using > > an available product instead of re-inventing the wheel. Even RMS used > > commercial software when the GNU software for it was not yet written. > > With you

Re: David D.W. Downey - Old Key 42D8F306 Signed by New Key C5A76BF6

2002-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"David" == David D W Downey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> So far I've done the following David> 1) Replaced the OLD key (42D8F306) with the NEW one (C5A76BF6). Replaced where? David> 2) Signed the OLD public key (42D8F306) with the NEW one (C5A76BF6). David> 3) Posted the OL

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:43:22AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > If there are only proprietary programs that do a specific job, and it > is desired to have a free program for this job, then we are forced to > reinvent the wheel by the proprietary programs licenses. Forced to by whom? By Jeroen,

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Hedderly
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:12:28AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > Did YOU help introducing ANY new features in boot-floppies? I18n? Kernel > 2.4, other filesystems, RAID support, lots of bugfixes in the existing > code, etc. etc.? Either you can continue your mission of distruction, > or you stop

Re: Python module for debconf

2002-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Adam" == Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> The byte compilation should be done when the package is built, Adam> not at runtime, not at install time. That's certainly an opinion, though it does not address the technical reasons that prompted the compile-at-install behaviou

Re: Galeon not to be in Woody?

2002-04-11 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > Are you being serious or was that rhetorical? [0] > [0] There was a time when I wouldn't've had a second thought about > the answer to that question, either... :) I think "facetious" is the word you're looking for. :-P -- see shy jo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: GNU FDL (was Re: Bug#141561: gnu-standards: Non-free software in main)

2002-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Steve" == Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Steve> I'd be happy to hear clarifications from the author and Steve> contemporaries, then; to be honest, my memory of Debian Steve> history isn't good enough to even know who to approach. (The Steve> debian-doc package is conspicuously

Re: Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Joey Hess
Johnny Ernst Nielsen wrote: > Debian's current problem with old packages can be seen by the fact > that a number of vendors have reportedly dumped the current Stable > release in favor of the Testing distribution some time ago. > That can only mean that currentness of content has become more > i

Re: Packages still in Potato

2002-04-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 03:57:26PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > These packages have not needed any updates. [...] > Is it really necessary to make a new upload, rather > than copying or linking these packages to the pool? > > I will make a new upload before the woody release if it is >

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 06:02:28PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > > 10 days != long enough to test a completely different _primary_ way of > > > booting the installation system. > > > > a) isolinux is not completely new. It is syslinux, extended with ability > >of reading iso9660. Show me on

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:18:08AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > You only need pptp-linux if you use an Ethernet attached modem instead of the > USB attached modem (which is E50 cheaper). This does not make sence at all. PPTP is also a WAN Tunneling and VPN Protocol. How can a Linux Router speek

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-11 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 09:15:24PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: > > No. This is directed at the people who would mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with > > mesages like "Go home proprietary l0s0rz! j00 are l4m3! Debian doesn't > > need you! Signed, [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Well, it seems to me like you're impl

Re: Galeon not to be in Woody?

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 11 Apr 2002, Joey Hess wrote: > > * #142317: mozilla-browser: strange middlemouse behavior leads to > >security problem > > So are there any objections if I clone this bug and reassign the grave > clones to xchat, ssh, vim, lftp, galeon, ytalk, etc? I've found that > middle-cl

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:12:28AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Did YOU help introducing ANY new features in boot-floppies? I18n? Kernel > 2.4, other filesystems, RAID support, lots of bugfixes in the existing > code, etc. etc.? Either you can continue your mission of distruction, or > you stop c

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 05:33:16PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > Oh, and 1) the Hurd isn't a kernel Wonderful news! Does this mean that we can expect the '-the-linux-kernel-packages-should-all-have-linux-in-the-name-' thread to not repeat itself? Steve Langasek postmodern programmer pgp1zKoq

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 11 Apr 2002, Matijs van Zuijlen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:14:41PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > The method described on http://www.sateh.com/hacks/alcatel.php certainly > looks like a hack. It basically describes a way to convert a Home model > to a Pro model without paying. Given

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:02:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > > > In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves > > > me some time. After all I want to get my job done and I want to have > > > som

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 04:55:03PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Le Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:45:35AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman écrivait: > > On CD *1*? Surely you don't plan to introduce new features in such a > > core component mere weeks before the scheduled release? There is no way > > that it c

Faster Release Cycle = More Up to date Packages...

2002-04-11 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
NOTE! I am *not* talking about release dates. (Anyone who starts talking release dates from hereon will be taken out back and given an ice cold shower-down ;o)) Through time many people have criticised Stable Debian for having an extremely slow release cycle, which causes an outdated distributio

Re: Galeon not to be in Woody?

2002-04-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:08:06AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > * #142317: mozilla-browser: strange middlemouse behavior leads to > >security problem > >Package: mozilla-browser; Severity: grave; Reported by: "C. Scott > >Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tags: security. > S

Re: Galeon not to be in Woody?

2002-04-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:08:06AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > * #142317: mozilla-browser: strange middlemouse behavior leads to > >security problem > >Package: mozilla-browser; Severity: grave; Reported by: "C. Scott > >Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tags: security. >

Re: Galeon not to be in Woody?

2002-04-11 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 11:08:06AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > * #142317: mozilla-browser: strange middlemouse behavior leads to > >security problem > >Package: mozilla-browser; Severity: grave; Reported by: "C. Scott > >Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tags: security. >

Re: Galeon not to be in Woody?

2002-04-11 Thread Joey Hess
> * #142317: mozilla-browser: strange middlemouse behavior leads to >security problem >Package: mozilla-browser; Severity: grave; Reported by: "C. Scott >Ananian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Tags: security. So are there any objections if I clone this bug and reassign the grav

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:15:08AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > Matt Zimmerman wrote on Wed Apr 10, 2002 um 09:31:12PM: > > I have installed many SCSI systems (including the one that I'm using right > > now) with potato CD #1, which I assume has a similar configuration. I've > > Your

Re: Please test this woody cd image

2002-04-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi Matt, Le Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 10:45:35AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman écrivait: > > release is coming soon ... and we need a bit of feedback about > > a new feature we plan to use on CD1 of Debian woody for i386. > > On CD *1*? Surely you don't plan to introduce new features in such a core > compone

Re: The GNU FDL is a free license! (Was: Re: O: gnu-standards --GNU coding standards)

2002-04-11 Thread Michael Stutz
Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is a document, and what is a program? How can Debian even begin > to distinguish what makes free documentation different from free > software when we can't distinguish whether a particular piece of > data is software or documentation in the first pla

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 09:43:22AM -0400, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > > > In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves > > > > me some time. After all I want to get my job done and I want to have > > > >

Re: Release cycle information?...

2002-04-11 Thread Johnny Ernst Nielsen
Good day Baz, > > I am researching the Debian release cycle. > > Where can I find information about how long time there should be > > between a Stable release and the next Testing freeze? > > I have searched the Debian web site and the mailings lists, but I > > have not found any such information.

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > > > In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves > > > me some time. After all I want to get my job done and I want to have > > > some time left for leisure or for working on stuff like free software. >

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Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 01:02:54PM +0200, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > > In such cases I sometimes decide to run the non-free tool if it saves > > me some time. After all I want to get my job done and I want to have > > some time left for leisure or for working on stuff like free software. > > You r

Re: Release cycle information?...

2002-04-11 Thread Daniel Ruoso
I agree that debian doesn't have no fixed dates for the release. And I think that's a good thing about debian, but i researched about this, and I would like to know if there is a defined roadmap for woody becoming frozen... What's the target milestone? Em Qui, 2002-04-11 às 10:27, Bas Zoetekouw es

Re: Home Networking

2002-04-11 Thread Tom Cato Amundsen
On Thu, 2002-04-11 at 06:32, Jon Eisenstein wrote: > I'm trying to set up my Debian machine as a gateway to the outside network, > with (for now) one windows machine going through it via a hub (Linksys > router). I've followed instructions for both Debian and Redhat to set it up, > but after I foll

Re: Release cycle information?...

2002-04-11 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Johnny! You wrote: > I am researching the Debian release cycle. > Where can I find information about how long time there should be > between a Stable release and the next Testing freeze? > I have searched the Debian web site and the mailings lists, but I > have not found any such information

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > some solutions for it (namely using a good, free MUA). You just let > the person helpless, I try to point him to the fix. However if you try > to help somebody you should not be a debian developers because you > said that non-free software is the problem

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 02:14:41PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:37, Paul Slootman wrote: > > > You only need pptp-linux if you use an Ethernet attached modem instead of > > > the USB attached modem (which is E50 cheaper). > > > > Yes, but often the line comes in many meters

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 10:18:08AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:40, Paul Slootman wrote: > > > Over the past few weeks most of the following packages have been removed > > > from the upcoming release due to bugs and such [0]. > > > > [...] > > > > > dnrd log

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002 13:37, Paul Slootman wrote: > > You only need pptp-linux if you use an Ethernet attached modem instead of > > the USB attached modem (which is E50 cheaper). > > Yes, but often the line comes in many meters away from the system, and > the simplest thing is then to run some UTP to

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Thom May
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:49:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: >> * Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> > Isn't the goal of Debian >> > providing a free system so users don't have to run any non-free >> > software anymore? >> >> No, no, nonono, no, no, no. > > 4. Our Priorities are Our U

Re: [2002-04-06] Release Status Update

2002-04-11 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 11 Apr 2002, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:40, Paul Slootman wrote: > > > Over the past few weeks most of the following packages have been removed > > > from the upcoming release due to bugs and such [0]. > > > > [...] > > > > > dnrd logtrend-consolidation p

Re: sid: libc6-2.2.5-4 kills vmware workstation 3.0

2002-04-11 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 05:49:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Jeroen Dekkers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Isn't the goal of Debian > > providing a free system so users don't have to run any non-free > > software anymore? > > No, no, nonono, no, no, no. 4. Our Priorities are Our Users and F

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