Package: wnpp
Version: N/A; reported 2001-12-30
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: pnet
Version : 0.2.6
Upstream Author : Rhys Weatherly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.southern-storm.com.au/portable_net.html
* License : GPL (with linking exception)
Des
hi there. i've prepared a NMU for sclient, which fixes it's two outstanding
bugs.
upstream seems to be dead, the last release was in 1999. maintainer seems to
be mia.
any objections?
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:03, Dominik Kubla wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 09:47:27PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > > Nowhere does it use the process name to lessen the chances of killing a
> > > process. IMHO it would be a nice idea to h
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001 01:03, Dominik Kubla wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 09:47:27PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > Nowhere does it use the process name to lessen the chances of killing a
> > process. IMHO it would be a nice idea to have such a whitelist just in
> > case.
>
> Extreme
(not cc'ed to the bts)
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Nope, that's exactly what the OOM killer was designed to do. Processes
> >> like syslogd is meant to be the last ones to be killed.
> > I am not at ease to go poking on the
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Nope, that's exactly what the OOM killer was designed to do. Processes
>> like syslogd is meant to be the last ones to be killed.
> I am not at ease to go poking on the OOM, though. Someone else better used
> to kernel programming shou
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:09:36PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > It is far better than anything else I can think of. Fiddling with the OOM
> > killer to avoid killing syslog and klog is worse, for example. Writing
>
> Nope, that's exactly wh
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:09:36PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
>
> It is far better than anything else I can think of. Fiddling with the OOM
> killer to avoid killing syslog and klog is worse, for example. Writing
Nope, that's exactly what the OOM killer was designed to do. Process
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 19:09:48 -0200
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Oh, I think orphaning his packages can be a useful thing to do. But I
> > just don't see why explicitly punting him helps. Just make the
>
> If he did
Hi Lenart!
You wrote:
> True. But, if you can't find 3 people out of 900 (so 1 out of 300) who
> see interest in a package, then that package is most probably very
> rarely used.
Let me refrase my question: can you explictly point out some packages
that have been ITP'ed lately and of which you t
Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 10:29:49PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > The last time I checked the maximum sentence for treason in Great Britain
> > was death...
>
> Hmm, that can't be right. Aren't the brits complaining about the US
> wanting to execute terro
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 04:52:58PM +0100, Gerhard Tonn wrote:
> On Saturday 29 December 2001 11:59, you wrote:
> > * Gerhard Tonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011229 11:23]:
> > > I have changed my mind and will write semi-automatically a bug
> > > report for each of
On 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > But I suspect that eight people is nowhere near enough people. Maybe
> > > I could join...
> >
> > Please do! Adrian Bunk posted a proposal a month or so ago for QA
> > organization in the future, conta
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > > Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I think we have this problem to solve: quality going down and the
> > > > s
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 12:45:54PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> I can see how removing bad packages helps. How does removing an MIA
> maintainer make anything better?
I don't know that removing MIA maintainers would help that much but
opening up their packages so that other people could
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I think we have this problem to solve: quality going down and the
> > > solution I see is attacking this problem in its roots: remo
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I think we have this problem to solve: quality going down and the
> > solution I see is attacking this problem in its roots: removing
> > bad packages and bad/mia maintainers
>
> I can see how
Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think we have this problem to solve: quality going down and the
> solution I see is attacking this problem in its roots: removing
> bad packages and bad/mia maintainers
I can see how removing bad packages helps. How does removing an MIA
maint
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > But I suspect that eight people is nowhere near enough people. Maybe
> > I could join...
>
> Please do! Adrian Bunk posted a proposal a month or so ago for QA
> organization in the future, containing a good summary of the kinds of
> things people can
Le Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 09:04:48PM +0100, Russell Coker écrivait:
> > > I have something better to propose. But it requires a new (long asked)
> > > feature : the ability to subscribe to a "package" (to get its bug logs,
> > > to get mails sent to @packages.debian.org [1]).
>
> Sounds like a great
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote:
> Thanks for your quick answer. I'm currently connected to rameau and
> try to build crafty for potato (it could be run on sid later on, I guess),
> but package build-depends on bzip2 which isn't
> installed. Building bzip2 in $HOME worked fine but
Firstly having three people saying that a package should be in Debian seems
like a useless waste of time to me.
Because of this, if such an idea is implemented then I will second any
package which meets current Debian policy without exception, this means that
anyone who wants a new package incl
On 29 Dec 2001, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
> > I don't find it at all complex.
>
> Of course not, you came up with it :-)
>
> My point is, a normal user will not have read a description of how
> this works. He will find a .$file and have no idea why and how.
> Making the filename more self-docum
also sprach Tommi Virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.29.2035 +0100]:
> IMHO the right solution is to slowly replace sysvinit's init.d
> with something that can monitor whether the children are still
> alive. For _everything_.
ntpdate??? for instance...
surely not everything,
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Florian Weimer wrote:
> > The package installation scripts should offer to run klogd from
> > inittab, since klogd regularly dies in OOM situations and is not
> > restarted if the current mechanism is used.
IMHO the right solution is to slowly
On Friday 28 December 2001 23:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:28:47AM -0600, Kevin Corry wrote:
> > The most recent release for EVMS is on our website:
> > http://www.sf.net/projects/evms/ The current release is 0.2.4. Our beta
> > release (0.9.0) should be coming out mid-Jan
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:21:32PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> - for each ITP, we need at least 2 developers that will maintain the
> package, they both subscribe to the package, one is the official
> maintainer, the other is listed in the Uploaders: field.
This may work with larger packa
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:31:37AM +0100, Lenart Janos wrote:
> [Please Cc: to me! (ETOOHIGHVOLUME)]
>
> As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
> My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload NEW package, but he
> needs 2 p
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 10:04:42PM +0100, Ingo Saitz wrote:
> MoiN
>
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 03:44:19PM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > From: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > - font, options for setting normalsize at 20pt (default), 17pt, 25pt or
> > > + font, options for setting normal
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 10:16:04AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lenart Janos) writes:
> > Other thing: there might be a need for a new Priority (or re-arrange the
> > current ones). I mean, something like 'Priority: zero' or something like
> > that, so they won't even go to the
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Since it appears being actively maintained and distributed separately from
RRDtool, it would make most sense for someone to package it in its own
right.
* Package name: php4-rrdtool
Version : 1.03
Upstream Author : Joe Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lenart Janos) writes:
> On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:30:28PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> > You wrote:
> > > As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> > > unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
> > > My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload N
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:14:15PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Lenart Janos a icrit :
> >
> > As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> > unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
>
> I don't think all these packages should be swept out. Unmaintained
> packages t
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:23:44AM +0100, Gerhard Tonn wrote:
> Hi,
> I have changed my mind and will write semi-automatically a bug report for
> each of the packages with severity grave.
> I am currently rebuilding the latest version of each of the packages, so that
> a build log for s390 will
On Friday 28 December 2001 07:44, Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
> > Package: foiltex
> > Description: A collection of LaTeX files for making foils.
> > A number of features are built-in including large sans serif font
While you're at it add a comma here^
> > - normal font, options for setting nor
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:21:39 +0100
Lenart Janos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have something better to propose. But it requires a new (long asked)
> > feature : the ability to subscribe to a "package" (to get its bug logs,
> > to get mails sent to @packages.debian.org [1]).
> [...]
> > PS: Feel
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 29, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> What do people think?
> >Go for it. The OOM killer will hit just about anything which is not a kernel
> >thread, and losing syslogd and klogd is a major no-no.
> The OOM code is supp
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > True, true. However, sysklogd and klogd are logging daemons. They deserve
> > some special treatment IMHO.
>
> Even so, starting it from inittab is too much of a kludge. For one thing,
It is far b
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:52:53PM +, Philip Blundell wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Van Buggenhaut writes:
> >1) There's no auto-build of crafty because it's non-free.
> >
> >2) I was thinking about building it myself but there's no machine
> >available (debussy.d.o is down - ra
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Eric Van Buggenhaut writes:
>1) There's no auto-build of crafty because it's non-free.
>
>2) I was thinking about building it myself but there's no machine
>available (debussy.d.o is down - rameau.d.o runs potato)
Mmm. I suppose we should think about making rameau'
On Saturday 29 December 2001 11:59, you wrote:
> * Gerhard Tonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011229 11:23]:
> > I have changed my mind and will write semi-automatically a bug
> > report for each of the packages with severity grave.
>
> Don't do this.
That's fi
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:59:32AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Gerhard Tonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011229 11:23]:
> > I have changed my mind and will write semi-automatically a bug
> > report for each of the packages with severity grave.
>
> Don't do th
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:21:32PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:31:37AM +0100, Lenart Janos ?crivait:
>
> Well, the basic idea is not so stupid, but the implementation is not
> really great.
The important part is that something must be done.
> I have something better
* Eric Van Buggenhaut
| 2) I was thinking about building it myself but there's no machine
| available (debussy.d.o is down - rameau.d.o runs potato)
|
|
| What am I supposed to do ??
I'd talk to [EMAIL PROTECTED], he should be able to get you an account on
europa.armlinux.org or similar. It r
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:30:28PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> You wrote:
> > As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> > unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
> > My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload NEW package, but he
> > needs 2 proponent DD who are
Hi my fellown developpers,
I'm the maintainer of crafty, a chess game engine.
Current version of crafty in sid for i386 and other archA's is
18.12-4. Because current version for arm is 17.13-6, crafty doesn't make it
into Woody.
I'd like 18.12-4 to enter Woody before freeze because it fixes some
Hi Lenart!
You wrote:
> As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
> My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload NEW package, but he
> needs 2 proponent DD who are willing to "give his signature for it".
> Just to make it a
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:52:25PM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote:
> > As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with
> > all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would
> > help myslef and others do a better job if they were more accessable.
> > One suggestion
Le Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:31:37AM +0100, Lenart Janos écrivait:
> needs 2 proponent DD who are willing to "give his signature for it".
> Just to make it a little more complicated a minimum of 50 word long
> justification needed from all the 3 guys (e.g. two proponent DD and the
> future maintainer
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Version : 0.9.7 ?
Upstream Author : mozilla.org
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Mozilla has several builtin CA
Lenart Janos a écrit :
>
> As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
I don't think all these packages should be swept out. Unmaintained
packages that don't have bunches of bugs shouldn't be a problem, for
example.
A better s
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 02:40:41AM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > You should be trying to avoid OOM situations in the first place.
>
> That is not always possible, and sometimes a kernel VM screwup will cause
> it, no?
Hmm.. OOM Killer should avoid killing long running root daemons
On Sam, 29 Dez 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
> As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with
> all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would
> help myslef and others do a better job if they were more accessable.
> One suggestion is a "portal"
* (Sami Haahtinen)
| After a while of struggling with issues with time, I've gotten to a
| conclusion where I've better hand over the packaging to someone else.
|
| if there is someone who has more time to dedicate to the packaging of
| webrt2 (or request-tracker as suggested by the upstream) pl
On Dec 29, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What do people think?
>Go for it. The OOM killer will hit just about anything which is not a kernel
>thread, and losing syslogd and klogd is a major no-no.
The OOM code is supposed to be fixed in 2.4 kernels.
I still see no r
(sorry about the late reply, holidays, you know :-)
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 21 Dec 2001, Kjetil Torgrim Homme wrote:
>
> > I'd prefer a non-executable file to mean "disable". This makes it
> > possible to use 0 byte files only (execute bit means yes or no :),
> > although pa
also sprach Alex Pennace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2001.12.29.1212 +0100]:
> As far as this proposal applies to free software, how does this serve
> the interests of the free software community? (See section 4 of the
> Debian Social Contract.) My opinion is this policy is an
> unneeded hurdle that needs
After a while of struggling with issues with time, I've gotten to a
conclusion where I've better hand over the packaging to someone else.
if there is someone who has more time to dedicate to the packaging of
webrt2 (or request-tracker as suggested by the upstream) please let me
know.
Regards, Sam
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:31:15AM +0100, Lenart Janos wrote:
> As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
> unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
> My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload NEW package, but he
> needs 2 proponent DD who are willing to "give his s
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> True, true. However, sysklogd and klogd are logging daemons. They deserve
> some special treatment IMHO.
Even so, starting it from inittab is too much of a kludge. For one thing,
it means that /etc/init.d/syslogd stop will either not work,
* Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011229 11:32]:
> BTW, why madison isn't packaged? We could package it and mention it
> in the developer reference.
Because the tool requires the SQL database on pandora and auric.
--
Martin Michlmayr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Gerhard Tonn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20011229 11:23]:
> I have changed my mind and will write semi-automatically a bug
> report for each of the packages with severity grave.
Don't do this. There are too many packages involved to file
semi-automatic bugs already and the bugs sh
* Lenart Janos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011229 11:32]:
> My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload NEW package, but he
> needs 2 proponent DD who are willing to "give his signature for it".
> Just to make it a little more complicated a minimum of 50 word long
> justification needed from all the 3
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 12:46:58AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with
> all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would
> help myslef and others do a better job if they were more accessable.
> One suggestion i
[Please Cc: to me! (ETOOHIGHVOLUME)]
As you might already have noticed Debian begun to bloat - so many
unneeded, unused, unmaintained(!) packages.
My opinion is that one DD alone couldn't upload NEW package, but he
needs 2 proponent DD who are willing to "give his signature for it".
Just to make i
Hi,
I have changed my mind and will write semi-automatically a bug report for
each of the packages with severity grave.
I am currently rebuilding the latest version of each of the packages, so that
a build log for s390 will be available at http://buildd.debian.org/ . I will
then check that the
Francois Gouget wrote:
>
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:
>
> > > "Ing. Luis Chávez Romo" wrote:
> > >
> > > I am tired of been a windows user. Let me know if there is an easy way
> > > to move
> > > an aplication developed in visual c to linux.
> >
> > it depends on libraries used, if
I was reading through the debian-devel archives, and came away
impressed with the ton of statistics out there for developers. Sure, I
knew my package bugs were online, as is my anonymized
latitude/longitude coordiantes. But I had no idea my karma [1] and
lintian reports [2] are tracked, along with
On Fri, 28 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote:
> > "Ing. Luis Chávez Romo" wrote:
> >
> > I am tired of been a windows user. Let me know if there is an easy way
> > to move
> > an aplication developed in visual c to linux.
>
> it depends on libraries used, if the libraries are not available for
> lin
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