source dependencies for source packages

2001-01-10 Thread Matthias Klose
We now have Build-Depends for source packages. What I do miss are Source-Dependencies for Source-packages. Problem: gcc takes long to build and test on some architectures. Adding cross compiler support would increase the build time for some architectures to some cpu days and disk requirements up to

Where's ttmkfdir?

2001-01-10 Thread Carl B. Constantine
I'm wanted to add some TrueType fonts to my system for X4.0.2 to use but can't seem to find the ttmkfdir util anywhere in the packages. Has someone packaged this? Where is it? I searched descriptions and package names at debian.org but no go. -- Carl B. Constantine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Packages' use of dpkg-statoverride

2001-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
Joe Drew wrote: > Is dpkg-statoverride meant to be used in a package, or only by sysadmins? You can use it in a package's postinst if, for example, you ask "should this program be suid?", and act on it by changing the permissions. > I've got a package which currently asks whether the svgalib bina

Filenames too long

2001-01-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello and good evening. Now I have my POTATO-BOX and I have gotten new problems with too long filenames... OK, I need to install mc and must do that with Floppys for the first time. Normaly no problem because the Floppy has a minixfs and the directory /utils with mc and mc-common... but the mini

Packages' use of dpkg-statoverride

2001-01-10 Thread Joe Drew
Is dpkg-statoverride meant to be used in a package, or only by sysadmins? I've got a package which currently asks whether the svgalib binary should be installed suid root. The safest way to do this, of course, would be to ship it 755, and then add the suid bit later. However, on installation, if th

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-10 Thread Otto Wyss
>>> > gzip --compress-like=old-foo foo > >gzip creates a dictionary (that gets realy large) of strings that are >used and encodes references to them. At the start the dictionary is >empty, so the first char is pretty much unencoded and inserted into >the dictionary. The next char is encoded usi

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 04:24:32AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > (In defense of GNU fileutils, I don't think I've seen any two Unix > versions of df with compatible output either. The HP-UX 11 output is > truly, ahem, interesting.) HPUX has a df and a bdf, as far as i remeber. and they ship a G

Re: resolution of the tar -I issue

2001-01-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 10:18:21PM -0800, Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo wrote: > -[0-7][lmh] specify drive and density > > I'm not sure exactly what that's for, but it does rule out -2. It kinda sucks > when you completely run out of single character options. %-) That's for specifying a tape drive an

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:01:40AM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: > > > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Well, if someone would like to configure the MTA that runs > > > bugs.debian.org to > > > send CC's of all bug mail to another a

s/key anyone?

2001-01-10 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, I can't find the 'skey' program anywhere in the distributions. Can anyone please tell me offhand why? If this isn't a licensing question, then I surely will make a stab at packaging this up! (and no, just saying "use otp instead" isn't the answer). Thank you! Best Regards, --Toni++

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 08:02:58AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: | On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:54:08AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: | > The thing is that a machine that can't load the correct kernel can be easily | > fixed, just use another machine to dd a kernel to a floppy. | | You really need th

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 08:02:58AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:54:08AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > The thing is that a machine that can't load the correct kernel can be > > easily > > fixed, just use another machine to dd a kernel to a floppy. > > You really nee

ITP: GPL Flash

2001-01-10 Thread Brian Ristuccia
http://www.swift-tools.com/Flash/ It's a netscape plugin, standalone player, and KDE screen saver capable of displaying Macromedia Flash movies. Better than the Macromedia player since we can distribute the actual software instead of just a lame installer. -- Brian Ristuccia [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

2001-01-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:55:29PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 07:19:53PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > I assume its purpose is to allow different resolver settings to be used with > > individual programs. For instance, perhaps one program should use DNS, > > while

Re: Proposal: Reorganizing Python for Python 2.0

2001-01-10 Thread Rob Tillotson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Now what if you install Python 2.0 and then call /usr/bin/python15? > This will use the newly-compiled .pyc files which are incompatible. Python handles this without doing anything nasty, thankfully... it treats the unusable .pyc/.pyo file as if it was out-of-date or no

Re: mozilla 0.7

2001-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:26:42PM +0100, Arjan Drieman wrote: > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Almeida wrote: > >> I filed a bug report about the new mozilla 0.7 release. It looks > >> like it's got PSM built in so it will comfort a lot of people. > >> It would be highly appreciated if you could gi

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 09:01:40AM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, if someone would like to configure the MTA that runs bugs.debian.org > > to > > send CC's of all bug mail to another address, ... > > You mean something other than signing up

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:54:08AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > The thing is that a machine that can't load the correct kernel can be easily > fixed, just use another machine to dd a kernel to a floppy. You really need the kernel you have compiled for your machine, not just any kernel. Hamish

Re: ITP: Bakery

2001-01-10 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 02:06:22AM +0100, Mariusz Przygodzki wrote: > > > Bakery is a C++ Framework for creating GNOME applications using Gnome-- > > > (gnomemm) and Gtk-- (gtkmm). > > > > What's the difference with Glade? > > Eeee. What's the difference with Glade-- rather? > > As you know Glade

Re: big Packages.gz file

2001-01-10 Thread Goswin Brederlow
> " " == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "zhaoway" == zhaoway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: zhaoway> This is only a small part of the whole story, IMHO. See zhaoway> my other email replying you. ;) >>> Maybe there could be another version of Packages.gz without >>>

Re: Proposal: Reorganizing Python for Python 2.0

2001-01-10 Thread calvin
Hello, > * we make /usr/bin/python point to python 2 thanks to alternatives > * we run a compileall.py in python/site-packages in order to > get them byte-recompiled for 2.0 From the Python news file: - Python bytecode files (*.pyc and *.pyo) are not compatible between releases

Re: IBM MWAVE multifunction card

2001-01-10 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, I habe a miro MWAVE Connect 34 (SB kompatibel Soundcard + V.34 modem) And I have tried to get them running under Linux... without success. The MWAVE card using generaly the sofware wavetable and it is not disponibel under Linux. An hardware wavetable is unfortunately not availlable. Mich

Re: IBM MWAVE multifunction card

2001-01-10 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Jan 8, 2001 at 21:49:17 -0800 (+), Ernest Tucker wrote: > I have an aptiva 2144-m51 with an mwave card. I read > the incompatibility list. If I boot the card under > win95 or dos7 and then soft boot to linux is there a > driver somewhere that will use the card? I think it > has Soun

Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #59

2001-01-10 Thread mheyes
Really really nice! [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 01/10/2001 01:29:39 PM Please respond to debian-devel@lists.debian.org To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: debian-devel-digest Digest V101 #59 Content-Type: text/plain debian-devel-digest DigestVolume 101 : Issue 59 Today'

Re: Solving the compression dilema when rsync-ing Debian versions

2001-01-10 Thread Andrew Lenharth
> > No, this won't work with very many compression algorithms. Most > > algorithms update their dictionaries/probability tables dynamically based > > on input. There isn't just one static table that could be used for > > another file, since the table is automatically updated after every (or > > n

Re: lynx 2.8.4dev.16 --with-ssl

2001-01-10 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 02:44:16PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > >Since ssl support (configure --with-ssl) is now integrated in the main > >lynx source, will lynx-ssl be obsolete? And will lynx has to go to > >non-US? Or do we still need separate version? > > Since lynx is GPLed, surely we shouldn'

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Re: Bug#81823: incorrect dependency

2001-01-10 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
On Wednesday 10 January 2001 16:39, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: > Package: glademm > Version: N/A; reported 2001-01-10 > Severity: important > glademm recommends glade, but glade conflicts with glade-gnome, thus > glademm cannot be installed together with glade-gnome. The correct > dependency should

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread Petr Cech
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 07:55:04AM -0700 , John Galt wrote: > Of course, the .conf in lilo.conf implies that packages really shouldn't > futz with it without warning. I really don't remember a exception in yes. though lilo.conf is always autogenerated - either by boot floppies or by liloconfig (s

Bug#81769: Addition to "Does not boot from CD-Rom"

2001-01-10 Thread ecky
Again something strange: I get the system booting from CD-Rom if I modify the boot option with the SCSI-BIOS setup tools that ship with the controller. This just does not work as expected. Before I set the device ID which should be booted to the ID of the CD-Rom which did not work out. Now, just a

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 04:06:35PM -0800, Ralph Jennings wrote: The problem is not that easy to solve I think. Basicly the problem is that you upgrade a tool that the install program depends on. If you install the perl-5.6 package before anything alse things will probably work just fine. The prob

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 11 January 2001 01:55, John Galt wrote: > >> > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it > >> > will only stop it from booting. > >> > >> Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is... > > > >The thing is that a machine that can't load the correct kernel can be > > e

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread John Galt
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Russell Coker wrote: >On Wednesday 10 January 2001 03:23, Branden Robinson wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: >> > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will >> > only stop it from booting. >> >> Oh, well, as

Re: Bugs about new upstream versions

2001-01-10 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Most packages are maintained by developers who are getting their job done > properly. They will notice the new upstream version and will update the > bug as soon as they can. Filing bugs will only take up their time. Let me put it this way: if I

Re: RTP: Stegfs

2001-01-10 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Andreas Schuldei ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [010108 00:35]: > The main author seems to have abandoned it. The last available patch is > against 2.2.14, and some kernel interfaces changed since then. Some > conceptional finetuning and additional features would be nice, too. This is not correct. The aut

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 12:54:08AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > From: Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org This was CC'ed to me why, exactly? -- G. Branden Robinson | Religion is something left over fr

ITP: phpGroupWare -- Web based GroupWare application

2001-01-10 Thread Luca De_Vitis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist phpGroupWare is a web based GroupWare system. It comes with serveral core apps for email, calendar, todo list, address book, file manager, and a notepad. It also provides a framework for add-on applications to integrate seamlessly in phpGroupWare. Some

Re: PERL MAINTAINERS SUCK - COMPLETE MORONS

2001-01-10 Thread Daniel Martin
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, if someone would like to configure the MTA that runs bugs.debian.org to > send CC's of all bug mail to another address, ... You mean something other than signing up for debian-bugs-dist and parsing the resulting traffic? I realize that debian-bu

Re: devfsd also (was: NMU of sitecopy ?)

2001-01-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 10 January 2001 06:40, Brian Frederick Kimball wrote: > The devfsd package could also use an NMU or two. It has apparently been > ignored by Tom Lee for months. Almost all of its bugs appear to be > fairly trivial, and he's only responded to one of the 11 open bugs (and > that respon

Re: Developer Behavior

2001-01-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 10 January 2001 03:23, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:34:39AM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > 1) This situation does not stop a running machine from working, it will > > only stop it from booting. > > Oh, well, as long as THAT'S all it is... The thing is that a

Re: mozilla 0.7

2001-01-10 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:26:42PM +0100, Arjan Drieman wrote: > Is it recommended to send bug reports about new releases in general? Or > is it recommended not to? I'd say it's not bad if it's been out for a LONG time and the packages haven't been updated for ages. But I don't think the day afte

Re: mozilla 0.7

2001-01-10 Thread Arjan Drieman
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Almeida wrote: >> I filed a bug report about the new mozilla 0.7 release. It looks >> like it's got PSM built in so it will comfort a lot of people. >> It would be highly appreciated if you could give it a whirl. >.%( WhoIs: MythDead >:%( address : [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: mozilla 0.7

2001-01-10 Thread Brian Almeida
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 03:13:28PM +0200, Eray 'exa' Ozkural wrote: > I filed a bug report about the new mozilla 0.7 release. It looks > like it's got PSM built in so it will comfort a lot of people. > It would be highly appreciated if you could give it a whirl. .%( WhoIs: MythDead :%( address

mozilla 0.7

2001-01-10 Thread Eray 'exa' Ozkural
Hi Myth and all, I filed a bug report about the new mozilla 0.7 release. It looks like it's got PSM built in so it will comfort a lot of people. It would be highly appreciated if you could give it a whirl. Regards, __ Eray

Re: limitation in build-depends

2001-01-10 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 03:12:42PM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Hello, > > The build-depends is limited when it comes to compiling a package > based on a number of different and incompatible libraries. > > Take Kerberos for an example - it has two implementations MIT and > Heimdal. Currently, this r

Bug#81769: Does not boot from CD-Rom

2001-01-10 Thread ecky
Package: General Version: 2.2 When I try to boot from CD on my SCSI system it does only boot, when CD-Rom is the SCSI device with the highest priority. In this case it does not boot from the hard-drive. Do I switch the SCSI IDs it boots from the harddrive but not from CD-Rom. In case the hard-driv

Re: 'export RESOLV_HOST_CONF= any file you want' local vulnerability

2001-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 07:19:53PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > I assume its purpose is to allow different resolver settings to be used with > individual programs. For instance, perhaps one program should use DNS, while > another NIS, and still another only the local hosts file for name resoluti

Re: Creeping featuritis (was: Re: tar -I incompatibility)

2001-01-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:23:44PM -0500, Jacob Kuntz wrote: > from the secret journal of Sam Couter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > No it's not. It does one thing (Advanced Package Management), and does it > > fairly well. Just because the thing it does is a complex task doesn't mean > > it's got creepin

Amaya still maintained ?

2001-01-10 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Hi Steve, are you still maintaining amaya ? The package is very much out of date (3.2.1-1 is in sid, while upstream is now at 4.2.1, which has significant improvements). The BTS lists three bugs reports regarding new upstream versions, and you didn't even reply to any of them. db.debian.org li

Re: tar -I incompatibility

2001-01-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[cas] > on every non-linux machine i have to use, the first thing i do is > download and compile all the GNU tools including tar. i then change > the PATH setting to include /usr/local/bin/gnu at the start. I used to do that, but then I got burned by 'df'. Debugging that one involved wading thr

Re: Path modification

2001-01-10 Thread Philip Blundell
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jon Eisenstein wr ites: >I recently filed a bug report (80092) against the nmh package regarding >the location of its program files. It installs files into /usr/bin/mh, >which isn't in the path, making running the program difficult until the >reason is found. The nm

Key Signing in IPC9

2001-01-10 Thread Moshe Zadka
Hi! I've long ago gave up hope of any Debian developer in Israel to sign my key. I'm going to be in IPC9 (International Python Confrerence) between March 4 and 8. It's in Long Beach Hilton, Calfornia. If you are going to attend, or just happen to live near Los-Angeles, please let me know. Thanks i

Bug#81768: marked as done (general: no autoclean)

2001-01-10 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
OTECTED]> X-Mailer: bug 3.2.10 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Package: general Version: 20010110 Severity: low Sorry for not specifying the category more precisely. I use several Debian 2.2s, with kernel module loading (i.e. no kerneld). Some systems has 'cron' others use 'anacro

Bug#81768: general: no autoclean

2001-01-10 Thread Kiss Gabor
Package: general Version: 20010110 Severity: low Sorry for not specifying the category more precisely. I use several Debian 2.2s, with kernel module loading (i.e. no kerneld). Some systems has 'cron' others use 'anacron'. I found, that there is no crontab entry that removes

Proposal: Reorganizing Python for Python2 (and fixes for the previous proposal)

2001-01-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Hi all, I'm reposting this mail on -devel as not all python modules maintainers are -python subscribers. Discussions will continue on -python. This version contains small modifications from the one firstly posted on -python. Proposal: Reorganizing Python for Python 2. ---

Re: ITU: freeswan 1.8

2001-01-10 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Adam Heath wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: > > > [snip] > > Could you please run dpkg-scanpackages, and dpkg-scansources, so that we can > use apt to install this stuff? Txs. Done. It should not be apt-able with deb ftp://ftp.vianova.at/pub/gibraltar source/ deb-src ftp://f

Re: gimp 1.1

2001-01-10 Thread Kevin Dalley
It would help if you could warn me before upgrading libgimp* in incompatible ways. If you told me about gimp1.2, I missed it, and I apologize. Since gimp1.2 is really the new stable gimp, can't it be in a package called gimp? The libraries are incompatible and need to be different packages, but

Re: News about Debian Conference... and have an happy new year !

2001-01-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 9 Jan 2001, Thierry Laronde wrote: > After that the subjects proposed : Proposals: Debian Jr Coding Parties I expect more people with Laptops than last year (at least I know one person who has got one ;-) ...). So lets organize topics top *work* on in the evening ours

Brendan O'Dea as Debian Perl developer

2001-01-10 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
While off on yet more travel earlier today, I confronted my lack of progress in packaging Perl for Debian. For too long, I've been denying it. But I have to face that my life is simply not currently structured to have time to maintain Perl like I should. Brendan has been patient over the months

Re: resolution of the tar -I issue

2001-01-10 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 06:08:23PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > > > > > sounds very good. > > besides that -j ("junkzip"?) is NON-DESCRIPTIVE at all. -Z or -2 would be > better... but thats an Upstream Issue I guess. -Z is for piping through comp