Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 02:21:51PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:52:47AM +0100, Sami Dalouche wrote: > > If I had to change something in the Debian package manager, I would > > like it to use bzip2 instead of gzip, but this doesn't need a > > omplete reimplementation. T

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote: > I wrote.. > > > > It should be re-usable as a library for implementing packages/modules > > for PLs· > > Erm, now I'm getting confused. I assume you mean that this package manager > should also be a framework for loadable modules. Isn't that way outsi

Re: wmaker build and AM_PROG_LIBTOOL

2000-12-24 Thread Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
Answering my own question. Needed to install: libtool, libltdl0, libltdl0-dev, libproplist0-dev (maybe a little overdone). Cheers, Cristian On Mon, 25 Dec 2000, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote: > > I'm now getting regular X freezes. Only thing I can pick up is: > > /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker f

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
> open up a co-ordination page on sourceforge and start a public design > process. do not stick to a religious idea like "it should be written > in C, or in perl". I don't know. I've seem a number of projects fail because they spent too much time on discussion and didn't ever get down to business

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:44:13AM -0500, Adam Lazur wrote: > Dwayne C . Litzenberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? > > Relocatable packages so a user can do an individual package install into ~ > without being r00t (this may be possibl

wmaker build and AM_PROG_LIBTOOL

2000-12-24 Thread Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
I'm now getting regular X freezes. Only thing I can pick up is: /usr/bin/X11/WindowMaker fatal error: got signal 11 (Segmentation fault) from ~/.xsession-errors. Trying to rebuild an unstripped wmaker from source, but automake makes my life miserable: aclocal aclocal: configure.in: 15: macro `

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Carl B. Constantine
On 12/24/2000 13:13, Mark Brown at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Spam to the Debian mailing lists tends to be especially annoying since > the spammers always seem to hit each and every mailing list (or at > least, a large number of them), which makes each spam much more > noticable. The GIMP-user an

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:38:50PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > Oh yeah. If only there was some way of automatic killing of such spams, sent > to more than X (say, 5) mailing lists... something that would remember the > last X-1 mails from the same domain name (or whatever) and kill off the > remai

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously John Hasler wrote: >> Undo. > dpkg will support rollback at some point, when reiserfs supports > transactions. Even then, I imagine it to be difficult. What about installs that cross filesystem boundaries, etc. Either you'd have to h

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:13:36PM +, Mark Brown wrote: > Spam to the Debian mailing lists tends to be especially annoying since > the spammers always seem to hit each and every mailing list (or at > least, a large number of them), which makes each spam much more > noticable. Oh yeah. If only

Bug#80433: marked as done (test, ignore)

2000-12-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 24 Dec 2000 22:12:51 +0100 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#80433: test, ignore has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibi

Bug#80433: test, ignore

2000-12-24 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Dec 24, Tomasz Barszczak wrote: > Package: general > Version: N/A; reported 2000-12-24 > Severity: wishlist > > This is only a test, should not be sent to debian. > I used reportbug --email=ADDRESS. > I apilogize if the --email didn't prevent it from being mailed out > to debian. --email chang

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 05:53:36PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > It has been said in a related thread on a mailing list that shall not be > named :) that making a DNS lookup for hosts carrying the blacklists on each > delivery would slow it down. It has also been said that this isn't hard to > work

Re: Bug#80433: test, ignore

2000-12-24 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Tomasz! On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Tomasz Barszczak wrote: > Package: general > Version: N/A; reported 2000-12-24 > Severity: wishlist > > This is only a test, should not be sent to debian. Didn't work, it went to Debian all way through. Merry Xmas! yours,

Bug#80434: marked as done (sndconfig)

2000-12-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 24 Dec 2000 14:53:05 -0500 with message-id <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and subject line Bug#80434: sndconfig has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibilit

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Adam Heath
On Sun, 24 Dec 2000, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Joseph Carter wrote: > > > > I think if dpkg used some sort of hashed database index it would be a hell > > of a lot nicer to people's CPUs and memory. Whether or not that requires > > a re-implemenetation of dpkg or not isn't for me to say since

Bug#80434: sndconfig

2000-12-24 Thread Philip Venable
Package: general Severity: normal Version: Synopsis: sndconfig Class:sw-bug Distribution: Red Hat Linux release 7.0 (Guinness) System: Linux 2.2.16-22 i586 unknown Description: I used sndconfig to configure my Sound Blaster 16 pnp sound card. The tests worked fine, but when I try to play

Bug#80433: test, ignore

2000-12-24 Thread Tomasz Barszczak
Package: general Version: N/A; reported 2000-12-24 Severity: wishlist This is only a test, should not be sent to debian. I used reportbug --email=ADDRESS. I apilogize if the --email didn't prevent it from being mailed out to debian. -- System Information Debian Release: 2.2 Architecture: i386 Ker

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Joseph Carter wrote: > > I think if dpkg used some sort of hashed database index it would be a hell > of a lot nicer to people's CPUs and memory. Whether or not that requires > a re-implemenetation of dpkg or not isn't for me to say since I haven't > looked at dpkg's code in 3 years. That smells

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:52:47AM +0100, Sami Dalouche wrote: > If I had to change something in the Debian package manager, I would > like it to use bzip2 instead of gzip, but this doesn't need a > omplete reimplementation. The problem isn't technical, but it's been > debated many times. I don'

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Federico Di Gregorio writes: > or am i missing something? In addition to the things Ben mentioned, dependencies and broken installs. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 10:18:55AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > > > Now maybe if we were using the RBL, DUL, and RSS lists... :-) > > > > GNU mailing lists (supposedly) use RBL, but in a mode where `spam' isn't > deleted, but rather just gets a header added saying `this message is > considered

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Adam Lazur
Dwayne C . Litzenberger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? Relocatable packages so a user can do an individual package install into ~ without being r00t (this may be possible now with some dpkg foo?). The ability to install more than one vers

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-24 Thread Adam Lazur
Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: > less has a mode to select() and watch the end of a file, invoked with > the 'F' command. I don't think that it's currently possible for less to > enter this mode with a command-line flag, but I've often wished that it did, > so maybe this feature should b

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 04:10:43PM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Ben Collins's letter: > > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 03:50:41PM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > > Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Wichert Akkerman's letter: > > > > Previously John

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Ben Collins's letter: > On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 03:50:41PM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > > Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Wichert Akkerman's letter: > > > Previously John Hasler wrote: > > > > Undo. > > > > > > dpkg will support rollback at some po

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 03:50:41PM +0100, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Wichert Akkerman's letter: > > Previously John Hasler wrote: > > > Undo. > > > > dpkg will support rollback at some point, when reiserfs supports > > transactions. > > that's completely c

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Wichert Akkerman's letter: > Previously John Hasler wrote: > > Undo. > > dpkg will support rollback at some point, when reiserfs supports > transactions. that's completely crazy. will you force anybody who wants rollback to use raiserfs? generic applications

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously John Hasler wrote: > Undo. dpkg will support rollback at some point, when reiserfs supports transactions. Wichert. -- / Generally uninteresting signature - ignore at your convenience \ | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Matthijs Melchior
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm starting work on a new linux package manager. The idea is to be able to > replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch > and designed to be as simple (code, not features) and clean as possible. For > now, the wo

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Dwayne C. Litzenberger writes: > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? Undo. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm starting work on a new linux package manager. The idea is to be able to > replace rpm, dpkg, apt, dselect (backend) with one,written mostly from scratch > and designed to be as simple (code, not features) and clean as possible. For > now, the

ITO: zope-popyda, python-popy

2000-12-24 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
hi *, after being asked so by the upstream author i declare my intention to orphan (from now) the following packages: python-popy zope-popyda merry xmas, federico -- Federico Di Gregorio MIXAD LIVE Chief of Research & Technology [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 08:43:51PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > I have a comment: NO WAY IN HELL. The day that we start rejecting DUL > posts is the day that several people leave the project, me included. How > many ISPs these days route mail worth a damn? :-) Joseph you make it too easy. You

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 12:10:29PM +0200, Gil Bahat wrote: > Here is a (somewhat?) constructive idea regarding the spam. > i would like to point everyone to sugarplum: > (http://www.devin.com/sugarplum/) > quote from README file: Cool program! Might be a good way to discourage spammers from harves

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 11:04:10AM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > > However, I would say that if the program dies so frequently that it needs a > > wrapper like this, it should probably be fixed. > > tail -f of a logfile into a secured less. To search and scroll > backwards, one must kill the tail

adoption - gdict

2000-12-24 Thread eechi von akusyumi
hello,I would like to adopt the package gdict and maintain it. Would you guys ther like to give me some pointers on how should i do? I'm not a debian developer yet, but i have intention to be (and am appling).regards,Related Links:http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=no&bug=80

ITP: mifluz

2000-12-24 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package mifluz. Package: mifluz License: GPL URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/mifluz/ Description: - --- The purpose of mifluz is to provide a C++ library to build and query a full text i

Money

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Re: autobuilders

2000-12-24 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Josh Huber wrote: > built. Should I just do it myself? I also know that there's no > (automated :) autobuilder for Alpha, so I understand that there might > be some delay for alpha. In Alpha's case, I'm normally very "on-top" of the builds, but am going to be slow for the

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread eechi von akusyumi
> Here is a (somewhat?) constructive idea regarding the spam. > i would like to point everyone to sugarplum: > (http://www.devin.com/sugarplum/) > quote from README file: > [snip]ac I'd suggest putting a lot of IFRAME tag which include the document generated by sugerplum which occuplies only a min

Re: Close list

2000-12-24 Thread Gil Bahat
Here is a (somewhat?) constructive idea regarding the spam. i would like to point everyone to sugarplum: (http://www.devin.com/sugarplum/) quote from README file: sugarplum is a spam-bot database poisoner utility. The specific usage of a spam poisoner is to provide a spammer's email spider with b

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-24 Thread Andreas Fuchs
On 2000-12-23, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes and no. It can daemonize a program, but will not restart it when it dies. > It sounds like what you want is a simple shell script that would be daemonized > by start-stop-daemon: > > /usr/sbin/myprogram.wrapper: > > However, I would

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:18:09AM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: > "Dwayne C . Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? > > I agree with Ethan. Start explaining why you want to reinvent the > wheel then we maybe has some ideas fo

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, Dec 24, 2000 at 09:52:47AM +0100, Sami Dalouche wrote: > Hi guys, > > > > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? > > > > I agree with Ethan. Start explaining why you want to reinvent the > > wheel then we maybe has some ideas for things to do when you > > reinventin

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Chuan-kai Lin
Ethan Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the debian packaging system answered most things i want from a > packaging system. what exactly is missing/wrong with the debian > packaging system that makes you feel the need for wheel reinvention? I also cannot see anything wrong with the Debian packag

RE: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Sami Dalouche
Hi guys, > > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? > > I agree with Ethan. Start explaining why you want to reinvent the > wheel then we maybe has some ideas for things to do when you > reinventing for other reasons. If I had to change something in the Debian package mana

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-24 Thread Peter Makholm
"Dwayne C . Litzenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So my question is: What do you wish for in a package manager? I agree with Ethan. Start explaining why you want to reinvent the wheel then we maybe has some ideas for things to do when you reinventing for other reasons. The only feature I'v