Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-13 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hmmm. No package called `scsidev' exists in Debian (potato|woody). > Pointer? Oops. scsidev is a part of the scsitools package. Remco -- qn195-66-31-144: 11:00pm up 8 days, 23:14, 6 users, load average: 2.03, 1.49, 1.69 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

RFP: vtgrab: monitoring the VC's of another machines

2000-09-13 Thread Michael Bramer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist thanks from the web-page (http://people.redhat.com/twaugh/vtgrab/): What is it? This is a utility for monitoring the screen of another machine. It only works for text consoles: for X, the idea is to use VNC instead. Where is it? H

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-13 Thread Yann Dirson
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:47:09AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > 3) S30checkfs.sh fails and bails out into a shell (using sulogin). > > Currently the keyboard mapping is loaded in S05keymaps-lct.sh and I think > that's a good thing. Thanks, good point. I'll put this rationale into consol

[ot] Poweredge 2400 Raid 5

2000-09-13 Thread Ries van Twisk
Hi, I know this is the wrong list (but then again maby not) has anyone created boot floppys for the poweredge 2400 with a raid-5 system? Currently I have one of these at home to install Debian on it. I'm willing to create the bootfloppys or at least create a HOW-TO poweredge for the public. I'

RE: mp3 encoding patents.

2000-09-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Sep-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Sorry to bring up this subject again. > I just wanted to know that can't mp3 encoders be distributed from a non-us > site where the policies are much more relaxed ? > the patents are held in Germany. This restricts us because most countries in

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Philippe Troin
Sergio Rua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I Intent to Package "Partion Image". 8< snip >8 > NOTE to Philippe Troin: this package require a libbz2 >= 1.0.0 In woody, > now, 0.9.5d-2 I'm working on packaging 1.0.1 right now... Expect it within a couple of days. Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Sergio Rua
Hello, On Sep/13/2000, Daniel Burrows escribĂ­a: > Dumb question: what's the distinction between this program and dd? I > assume there is one, or it wouldn't mention specific partition formats.. You can consider it like a front-end easy to use with some extra features. See home page fo

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
nevermind, I'm stupid. I see it on the homepage now. Daniel, crawling into a hole in the ground for the second time in a week.. -- /- Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -\ | Hi, I'm a .signature virus! | |

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread John Galt
The big package breakups have historically been related to licensing issues (either a license incompatibility that's been pointed out or a change in licensing that broke compatibility), so the bug pointing out the license issue might be seen as forcing the breakup... On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, David St

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 03:20:48PM -0400, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Well, that's probably why he gave the URL, so that people with questions like > this could go the web site and find out answers to questions like this. > > --Adam, who doesn't know why everyone ITP'ing

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 03:06:43PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:55:52PM +0200, Sergio Rua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > "Description: Partition Image is a Linux/UNIX uility which saves partitions > > in the ext2fs (the linux standard), ReiserFS (a new jou

RE: free Interrnet provider for Linux? INFO

2000-09-13 Thread Anderson, Tim TL33E
Not sure how my post made it onto debian-devel, but cross-posting anyway. Here's the important stuff from the thing worldshare.net sent me. Apparently the site now says they don't do Linux, but I use it all the time, it's just a normal ppp connection. Tim Anderson -Original Message-

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-13 Thread John Galt
NOTHING strikes me as bizzare at [EMAIL PROTECTED] anymore... On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Mike Markley wrote: > Does anyone else find it bizarre that this is the *second* such request this > list has received in recent months? :) > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:49:47AM -0700, marty macdonald <[EMAIL PR

mp3 encoding patents.

2000-09-13 Thread viral
Hi all, Sorry to bring up this subject again. I just wanted to know that can't mp3 encoders be distributed from a non-us site where the policies are much more relaxed ? Viral. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 03:06:43PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:55:52PM +0200, Sergio Rua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > heard to say: > > "Description: Partition Image is a Linux/UNIX uility which saves partitions > > in the ext2fs (the linux standard), ReiserFS (a new jou

Re: ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:55:52PM +0200, Sergio Rua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > "Description: Partition Image is a Linux/UNIX uility which saves partitions > in the ext2fs (the linux standard), ReiserFS (a new journalized and powerful > file system) or FAT16/32 (DOS & Windows file sys

Re: ITP: spong

2000-09-13 Thread Seth Cohn
At 07:26 PM 09/13/2000 +0300, Pekka Aleksi Knuutila wrote: Spong is a simple systems and network monitoring package. It does not compete with Tivoli, OpenView, UniCenter, or any other commercial packages. It is not SNMP based, it communcates via simple TCP based messages. It is written in perl

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Mark Mealman
> Yes, I am sure most people would. However, I have noticed that normal posts > on topics of this nature are handily dispatched with singular consistancy, > usually with reference to historical discussion buried somewhere deep in the > list archives. Or just ignored. Been lurking here for 2 years

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-13 Thread Andreas Fuchs
Today, Miros/law `Jubal' Baran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 13.09.2000 pisze Rick Younie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >> Probably doesn't make any sense to many non-native English >> speakers or those from different cultures but it really is >> hilarious. > It did make sense. ;-> Yea, but only if you spe

ITP: Partition Image

2000-09-13 Thread Sergio Rua
Hello, I Intent to Package "Partion Image". "Description: Partition Image is a Linux/UNIX uility which saves partitions in the ext2fs (the linux standard), ReiserFS (a new journalized and powerful file system) or FAT16/32 (DOS & Windows file systems) file system format to an image file. T

Re: new-maintainer and delays (was Re: [some idiot troll who should have been ignored])

2000-09-13 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On 13 Sep 2000, James Troup wrote: > Actually, no, way less than half the current backlog are applicants > from the shut down period. Yeah, after looking at more of the records, I see this. > If that's all I had to do in my life, no, of course it wouldn't. > Unfortunately it's not. Granted, DA

new-maintainer and delays (was Re: [some idiot troll who should have been ignored])

2000-09-13 Thread James Troup
"Christopher C. Chimelis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Looks like quite a backlog has been created by NM being shut down > for so long. Actually, no, way less than half the current backlog are applicants from the shut down period. > But, after picking a few people to look at that are currently

Re: Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 01:15:17PM -0500, Joseph Carter wrote: > > - Can the PSM go in Main? > > - If Not in main, how do I build this so that mozilla(noncrypto parts) > > goes in main, while mozilla-psm goes to non-us/main with minimum amount > > of manual work? (when answering this, keep the

Re: Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Franklin Belew
I have come to new information... The PSM is completely self-contained in the mozilla source tree, so all my previous problems are null and void Frank aka Myth pgpKHi21ImoZ7.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Note that Netscape 4.75 is in main. Since when? - Ruud de Rooij. -- ruud de rooij | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://ruud.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How do I build a package that requires the _source_ of another?

2000-09-13 Thread Eray Ozkural
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:27:43 Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Avoid it like hell. This is really unpleasant. Please, please consider all > alternatives. For example, fixing the program so that it doesn't require the > other source. > I was wrong anyway, but I'll avoid that in the future :) Thanks, --

Re: Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:42:37PM -0400, Franklin Belew wrote: > Questions: > - Can the PSM go in Main? > - If Not in main, how do I build this so that mozilla(noncrypto parts) > goes in main, while mozilla-psm goes to non-us/main with minimum amount > of manual work? (when answering this, ke

NM Page info.

2000-09-13 Thread David Brown
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 01:50:04PM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > http://nm.debian.org/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to make a suggestion for the NM pages, but I'm not sure where to send it. Would it be possible to post the dates in ISO date format -MM-DD. When my brain sees 2000-xx-x

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Joseph Carter
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 03:40:26PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > > > Please read: http://nm.debian.org > > > > Oh well, at least nobody can say, "Well, nobody ever said anything ... ". > > I tried. > > Well, what, exactly? Would you mind actually telling us what you > mean? I thought Raul's emai

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start (2)

2000-09-13 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Henrique M Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Here's an updated version of the RFC text, as well as a new version of the >initscriptquery reference script. The fragments.sh script is included just >for completeness, and was not modified. I like it, but why not fo

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > [2] New Maintainer is a tough job, with a lot of work to be done > (especially because we weren't processing applications at all, last > year, because things had gotten so out of hand and the people dealing > with it had gotten so stressed out). In spite

Re: Samba 2.0.5a dislikes Windows 2000 2.0.7 OK

2000-09-13 Thread Alec Smith
Samba 2.0.7 will run fine on a Slink system. I've had the setup up and running since the original 2.0.7 release by the Samba Team last spring. At best you'll need to download the Debian sources for Samba from the Potato arachives and recompile against Slink libraries. At worst you'll need the .tar

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-13 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
13.09.2000 pisze Rick Younie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Probably doesn't make any sense to many non-native English > speakers or those from different cultures but it really is > hilarious. It did make sense. ;-> Jubal, from different culture. -- [ Miros/law L Baran, baran-at-knm-org-pl, neg IQ, ce

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-13 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 07:56:36PM +0200, Miros/law `Jubal' Baran wrote: > > That's why the includes are assembled into a self-contained keymap > > which is stored in /etc. > > Only if you use pre-supplied keymaps. When you use customized ones[1] > it's not that easy. Please explain. Why does

Re: How do I build a package that requires the _source_ of another?

2000-09-13 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:24:54PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote: > I'm building a package that needs the source of another (existing) > package in Debian. You have to configure the source directory > of that other program. What's the proper way to do that? Avoid it like hell. This is really unpleasan

How do I build a package that requires the _source_ of another?

2000-09-13 Thread Eray Ozkural
I'm building a package that needs the source of another (existing) package in Debian. You have to configure the source directory of that other program. What's the proper way to do that? I don't want to replicate the source dirs becase they take many megabytes. Thanks, -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp.

Mozilla PSM (https support)

2000-09-13 Thread Franklin Belew
Since the RSA code was put in the public domain, the Personal Security Manager (aka PSM) that allows SSL/https connections has become opensource under the same license as mozilla (MPL/GPL) Facts: - License is DFSG Free (MPL/GPL) - Uses OpenSSL for encryption (BSD Style License(s)) - Soure is in up

ITP: spong

2000-09-13 Thread Pekka Aleksi Knuutila
Spong is a simple systems and network monitoring package. It does not compete with Tivoli, OpenView, UniCenter, or any other commercial packages. It is not SNMP based, it communcates via simple TCP based messages. It is written in perl and easily modifiable. Its features include: * client ba

Re: Samba 2.0.5a dislikes Windows 2000 2.0.7 OK

2000-09-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Carpenter, Dean wrote: > Any ideas just what the problem is with 2.0.5a ? Is it fixable/configurable > ? The problem is with Win2k which decided to use a slightly different protocol. > How tough is it to get 2.0.7 running on a standard slink system ? Should be a matter of recompiling

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Jules Bean
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:01:11PM -0700, Debian Linux User wrote: [snip] > > Please read: http://nm.debian.org > > > > -- > > Raul > > > > Oh well, at least nobody can say, "Well, nobody ever said anything ... ". > I tried. Well, what, exactly? Would you mind actually telling us what you

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Ben Collins wrote: > I already have a new README.build that I am putting in all my packages, which > will document how I have things setup. That takes away most of the problems. A README with invalid instructions I might add. Wichert. -- ___

Samba 2.0.5a dislikes Windows 2000 2.0.7 OK

2000-09-13 Thread Carpenter, Dean
Dang it. I have a nice stable slink system here, been running for a looong time, rock solid. NT 4.0 clients access it via samba 2.0.5a, and everything works. Well, we're in the process of pushing out Winders 2000 ... which won't talk to 2.0.5a. I have several other machines, potato and woody in

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Debian Linux User
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:05:26AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: ...sigh. Exhibit A: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: > [lots of stuff deleted -- basically a bitch about new maintainer] > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:57:41AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > > Good point :-) > > Not really

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Debian Linux User
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 01:52:36PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:39:33PM -0700, erik wrote: > > I realize I stirred up a hornets nest; I did it intentionally because > > otherwise nobody seems to notice and I think that at least some of what I > > originally wrote (goading

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: [lots of stuff deleted -- basically a bitch about new maintainer] On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:57:41AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > Good point :-) Not really: [1] This point (if it really erik's point -- hard to tell) is not well expressed by erik's subj

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Peter Crystal
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:47:22AM -0700, erik wrote: > Hi, > > I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the > unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last > straw: I've been tracking the development of KDE2 for months and running * darkewolf listens to

Re: apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Sebastian Rittau
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:55:11AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I'm in real trouble with apt-get and a squid proxy. We've got the same problem when using apt via Squid via a broken IBM proxy. (Apt connects to the Squid proxy, which has the proxies of the German provider T-Online as its only and

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start (2)

2000-09-13 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Florian Lohoff wrote: > I would like to have an addition to the "initscriptquery" which > is something i have been waiting for long. I am interested in this > because i am doing automated installations into a chroot environment. > In this case i am possibly running in the right

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Debian Linux User
Aach, no sleep for the wicked this darkling eve ... at least not for me. or morning, whatever. On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:57:41AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > > Good point :-) I hope NM can be improved as well. I've got someone that > I know will help the Alpha port that's still in

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start (2)

2000-09-13 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 10:01:11AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > Sample code: > > > Attached to this rfc, you'll find a reference (functional and somewhat > tested, as well as written for easy-of-reading) shell script > implementation of /usr/sbin/initscriptquery for sysvi

Re: Debian banner ad outdated

2000-09-13 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Edward Betts wrote: > > Same on sourceforge.net > > I'll bug the osdn folks about it. Expect new and much better looking adds soon. Wichert. -- _ / Nothing is fool-proof to

RFC: fix for daemon start (2)

2000-09-13 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
Hello everyone, Here's an updated version of the RFC text, as well as a new version of the initscriptquery reference script. The fragments.sh script is included just for completeness, and was not modified. Changelog: * fixed typos, updated documentation to an assertive tone * addressed rcS.d is

Re: New package checkmp3 ???

2000-09-13 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* David Starner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I ran dselect, and lo and behold, checkmp3 appeared. A package > with the same name, similar version number (1.97.3 vs. 1.97.2), > same description and same maintainer as mp3check. This is bad - > should I file a bug on f.d.o, mp3check, checkmp3, or all

Re: Large file support again

2000-09-13 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Nils Rennebarth wrote: > On >http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html > I read that for glibc 2.1.3 in order to support large files it needs to be > compiled against headers from a 2.4 kernel. As this is currently not the > case, glibc 2.1.3 should be rebuilt. Woody is sho

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: > Thank you for a cool response - I was really hoping that would eventually > happen. I realize I stirred up a hornets nest; I did it intentionally > because otherwise nobody seems to notice and I think that at least some of > what I originally wrote (goading asi

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:39:33PM -0700, erik wrote: > I realize I stirred up a hornets nest; I did it intentionally because > otherwise nobody seems to notice and I think that at least some of what I > originally wrote (goading aside) is important. Personally, I would like a normal post better.

Large file support again

2000-09-13 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html I read that for glibc 2.1.3 in order to support large files it needs to be compiled against headers from a 2.4 kernel. As this is currently not the case, glibc 2.1.3 should be rebuilt. Nils -- Quotes from the net, featuring John Lapeyre[L] and Christ

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-13 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:38:58AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > > I think aside of one diff or many diffs a list of patches done to the code > > > and where you got them from is a good thing to have in every package. > > > > Most patches are done by the maintainer, or submitte

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread erik
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, you wrote: Thank you for a cool response - I was really hoping that would eventually happen. I realize I stirred up a hornets nest; I did it intentionally because otherwise nobody seems to notice and I think that at least some of what I originally wrote (goading aside) is imp

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:23:12AM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the > > > unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last > > > straw > > BTW, what would it take for someone to be forced to break up a package > o

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Michael Beattie
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 02:05:48AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > == > >From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) [web1913]: > > Rant \Rant\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Ranted}; p. pr. & vb. n. > {Ranting}.] [OD. rant

Re: apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Andreas Tille wrote and forgot to mention: > On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > Wakko{root}~/work/apt2/build/bin#http_proxy="http://void"; apt-get install > > apt > > Reading Package Lists... Done > > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > 1 packages upgraded, 0

ITP: sing

2000-09-13 Thread Robert van der Meulen
SING stands for 'Send ICMP Nasty Garbage'. It is a tool that sends ICMP packets fully customized from command line. Its main purpose is to replace the ping command but adding certain enhancements (Fragmentation, spoofing,...) Sing is released under the GNU public license. It's project page is at

Re: Getting current keymap

2000-09-13 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 11:09:49PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote: > > Don't change that. Beginners would be very confused if the keytable is not > > working as expected. Not everybody can work with a US keyboard table if the > > need arises. > > In which cases is the user able to get to the shell befo

Re: apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Jules Bean wrote: > In shells I've used, 'set' gives you the list of shell variables, not > environment variables. Try 'export http_proxy' and/or 'env | grep > proxy'. I'm very sorry for the confusion! I'm using 'export http_proxy' in bash and it works now for apt-get. (Don't

Re: digest version broken?

2000-09-13 Thread Remco van de Meent - Debian Listmaster
Seth Cohn wrote: > > Looks like digests are broken, could someone fix please? Digests are broken at the moment. I sent out a bunch of digests this morning, catching up with the email from the last couple of days. I hope it will be business as usual quite soon. Cheers, Remco. --

Re: apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 07:55:11AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hello, > > I'm in real trouble with apt-get and a squid proxy. First of all > I found out that in contrast to the manual of apt.conf the environment > variables > > ~# set | grep proxy > ftp_proxy=http://wr-linux01.rki.de:3128/ > h

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: > > Yep, I do -and it worked great before he had to repackage it. You could > > have simply copied them from tdyc and had done with it. Ok, this is where I have to voice my opinion as well... First off, the packages WILL NOT build on Alpha (and possibly other a

Re: New package checkmp3 ???

2000-09-13 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
David Starner wrote: > I ran dselect, and lo and behold, checkmp3 appeared. A package > with the same name, similar version number (1.97.3 vs. 1.97.2), > same description and same maintainer as mp3check. This is bad - > should I file a bug on f.d.o, mp3check, checkmp3, or all the > above? AFAIK,

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-13 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > > I think aside of one diff or many diffs a list of patches done to the code > > and where you got them from is a good thing to have in every package. > > Most patches are done by the maintainer, or submitted as bug reports. Those > are listed in the changelog, but even then,

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"erik" == erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: erik> Yes, it does - I still think the points were worth bringing up. Sorry if erik> they aren't important to you; if you're not interested don't erik> waste your time. And wahat points were these again? (Given that there was no growing bu

Re: apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > Wakko{root}~/work/apt2/build/bin#http_proxy="http://void"; apt-get install apt > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 362 not upgraded. > Need to get 483kB of archive

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"erik" == erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: erik> BTW, the rant has been a long time coming - this just keyed it. The rant has been a long time coming. And then it comes forth, and the one lone specific amidst all the confused vituperative outpouring happens to be patently false. A

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread erik
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > FYI and to anyone else reading. The direction I have gone with the > packaging of KDE for Debian has not changed since day 1. I have focused > on conforming to Debian policy (which I have mostly done already) and > making the user base happy (breaking down o

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread erik
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Seth Cohn wrote: > > BTW, the rant has been a long time coming - this just keyed it. > > > > Purpose of Rant: Stir up the coals ... > > Hey erik, grow up. Debian has enough flamewars without you stirring the > coals intentionally. Yes, it does - I still think the point

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> Ivan, I want to apologize to you personally - I fully realize that you > are doing the work on KDE and ( as I mentioned before) I think you are > doing a great job. I have been running KDE from the other site and believe > me this was not targeted at you - if anything quite the opposite. The > p

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-13 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* marty macdonald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000912 22:52]: > I mean, the whole thing here is to show the ultimate > differences between the Linux kernel and the kernels > found when using multiple banjos. This research was > supported by Dr. Rimulak in his infamous "Kernal VS > Banjo - A Duality?". Th

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:32:54PM -0700, erik wrote: > Purpose of Rant: Stir up the coals ... You don't backpedal nearly as well as you bitch. -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux|It tastes good. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Seth Cohn
> BTW, the rant has been a long time coming - this just keyed it. > > Purpose of Rant: Stir up the coals ... Hey erik, grow up. Debian has enough flamewars without you stirring the coals intentionally. 'The broken update happened 20 minutes before the rant' HUH? Geez. Seth -- To UNSU

Re: fishing hooks

2000-09-13 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
Pang Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dear sir or madame: > we are a fishing goods trading company located in China mainland, our > products > include > Banksticks, Rodrests, Boxes, Baskets, Seats, Floats & Float > accessories,etc,if > your want to import these products from China.please feel

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> > > You _do_ realize that the same guy who packaged it for kde.tdyc _is_ the > > > same guy who is packaging it for Debian proper? > > > > Yep, I do -and it worked great before he had to repackage it. You could > > have simply copied them from tdyc and had done with it. had??? I didn't have t

Re: apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Andreas Tille wrote: > I'm in real trouble with apt-get and a squid proxy. First of all > I found out that in contrast to the manual of apt.conf the environment > variables Uh.. Wakko{root}~/work/apt2/build/bin#http_proxy="http://void"; apt-get install apt Reading Package

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread erik
On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote: > uhh, FYI...the same person who did the package on kde.tdyc.com is the > same and only person doing the packaging for Debian. The fact that > I finally had time to work on the *MANY* requests to break down the > packages and the fact that KDE *IS* beta shouldn't c

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:47:22AM -0700, erik wrote: *snip* > I just can't keep my mouth shut Clearly. > all it took was a week or so in the hands of a ridiculously complicated > and politically petty beuracracy like this Yes, a bureaucracy of one man, Ivan E. Moore II, who, I think has done

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread erik
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, you wrote: > > > You _do_ realize that the same guy who packaged it for kde.tdyc _is_ the > > same guy who is packaging it for Debian proper? > > Yep, I do -and it worked great before he had to repackage it. You could > have simply copied t

apt-get and proxy

2000-09-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, I'm in real trouble with apt-get and a squid proxy. First of all I found out that in contrast to the manual of apt.conf the environment variables ~# set | grep proxy ftp_proxy=http://wr-linux01.rki.de:3128/ http_proxy=http://wr-linux01.rki.de:3128/ are ignored by apt-get. Thus I have in

fishing hooks

2000-09-13 Thread Pang Li
Dear sir or madame: we are a fishing goods trading company located in China mainland, our products include Banksticks, Rodrests, Boxes, Baskets, Seats, Floats & Float accessories,etc,if your want to import these products from China.please feel free to contact us. Tel:0086-757-6239656 Fax:0086-7

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread David Starner
On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 12:12:45AM -0500, David Starner wrote: > On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:47:22AM -0700, erik wrote: > > I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the > > unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last > > straw BTW, what would it take for

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:47:22AM -0700, erik wrote: > I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the > unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last > straw It's the same developer making them that made the ones at kde.tdyc. There's no evil empire, there's

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
uhh, FYI...the same person who did the package on kde.tdyc.com is the same and only person doing the packaging for Debian. The fact that I finally had time to work on the *MANY* requests to break down the packages and the fact that KDE *IS* beta shouldn't cause anyone to start pointing fingers at

Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread Seth Cohn
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, erik wrote: > I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the > unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last > straw: I've been tracking the development of KDE2 for months and running > it quite successfully using "unofficial" debs (chee

KDE2 - nice demolition job ...

2000-09-13 Thread erik
Hi, I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last straw: I've been tracking the development of KDE2 for months and running it quite successfully using "unofficial" debs (cheers to the folks at kde.tdyc for bucki

Re: Best way to depend on an xserver but conflict with XF86 v4 ?

2000-09-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:03:04PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: > I have a package (utah-glx) which needs can be used only on a XF86 > 3.3.6 server. How can I express this ? > > Depends: xserver(<<4.0) > > does not work since xserver is a virtual package. Yes, version numbers are more or less

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-13 Thread ferret
Hmmm. No package called `scsidev' exists in Debian (potato|woody). Pointer? On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The problem I have here is that the 'appropriate device' is not guarenteed > > to stay constant with respect to the SCSI b

Re: New package checkmp3 ???

2000-09-13 Thread Michael Beattie
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:16:05PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > I ran dselect, and lo and behold, checkmp3 appeared. A package > with the same name, similar version number (1.97.3 vs. 1.97.2), > same description and same maintainer as mp3check. This is bad - > should I file a bug on f.d.o, mp3chec

Re: dualing banjos

2000-09-13 Thread Sudhakar Chandra
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" proclaimed: > A team at IBM is currently trying to port the Linux Kernel to > Britney Spears but it is highly experimental and the system may > never be stable under such hostile conditions. The Britney Spears banjo, it should also be noted, is prone to inexplicably and suddenl

Re: Best way to depend on an xserver but conflict with XF86 v4 ?

2000-09-13 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 01:41:19PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Depends: xserver(<<4.0) [...] > What should work with dpkg 1.7.0 once that is ready if someone makes > xserver a versioned provide. I don't think that this would be a good idea, because there may be other xservers than XFree