ITO: tkirc

2000-09-11 Thread Pekka Aleksi Knuutila
Hello developers and soon-to-be developers, I've switched to irssi and don't know much about Tcl/Tk. Someone of you can probably do a better job with tkirc, so i wish to give it away. I'll gladly sponsor if needed. Packages of tkirc 2.42, still needing a bit of testing, can be found from ht

Re: Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-11 Thread Georg Bauer
Hi! On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:42:14PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Since you are teaming with Martin Gasbichler, and since Martin is a > co-author of Scsh, I'd say that puts you two in as most qualified to > handle the package. (Daniel? Please forward this mail to Martin.) Yup, they are

Scsh (Was: Re: My orphaned packages.)

2000-09-11 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Daniel" == Daniel Kobras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Daniel> On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: >> `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've >> not even looked at it in over a year. Daniel> If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with

Re: Archive maintainers: Please relocate tpctl package

2000-09-11 Thread Thomas Hood
> On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 05:05:35PM -0400, Thomas Hood wrote: > > The tpctl packages still haven't been relocated. Is there > > some holdup? Michael Beattie wrote: > Time. sorry, I'll take a look this afternoon. I see you've done it! Thanks. Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: KDE is not working!

2000-09-11 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> ># Link "socket" resource to directory in /tmp > ># Creates a directory /tmp/ksocket-$USER and links > >$KDEHOME/socket-$HOSTNAME to it. > > I hope that last line is merged with the one before it in the uploaded > version ... it is -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:

Re: KDE is not working!

2000-09-11 Thread Colin Watson
"Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >yea..grab the .deb's out of incoming...or change your /usr/bin/startkde script >iout with the one I'm attaching. [...] ># Link "socket" resource to directory in /tmp ># Creates a directory /tmp/ksocket-$USER and links >$KDEHOME/socket-$HOSTNAME to

Re: RFC: GUI tools for common Debian admin tasks

2000-09-11 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Daniel" == Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel> Also, it might be intriguing to (ab)use the VFS support in Daniel> these programs to convert them into Apt frontends. I'm not Daniel> sure how far you could go, but it would be interesting to see Daniel> if it worked. Check cd #ap

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-11 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting "Dale E. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As relaxing permissions in general on /dev/sg* would create more of a > > potential security risk for SCSI-based systems, and there is no > > constant mapping between [/dev/scd*] and [/dev/sg*], cdparanoia should > > be made suid root and should dr

RE: gettextized console-apt

2000-09-11 Thread Patrick Cole
> Hi! > My name is Kiwamu Okabe. > > I have added gettext-support to console-apt. > The gettextized console-apt can print multi-lingual messages. > Could you merge it into console-apt? > > binary >

Re: System sees only 65M of memory

2000-09-11 Thread Jason Quigley
Does your bios have the setting memory hole at 64M activated? I'm not sure if that's the exact option. I only vaguely remember something like that as I haven't rebooted for such a long time - and sorry - I refuse to for this! ;-) Cheers, Jason. --On Monday, September 11, 2000 9:20 -0700 Erik

Re: gettextized console-apt

2000-09-11 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 01:13:21AM +0900, kiwamu wrote: > Hi! > My name is Kiwamu Okabe. > > I have added gettext-support to console-apt. Thanks. It's probably better, however, if you just make a bugreport, severity wishlist, on console-apt and include the details in the bugreport. http://bugs

Re: System sees only 65M of memory

2000-09-11 Thread Erik
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:56:52PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: > I just purchased two Athalon-based systems, each with 768M of ram. > However, under debian (potato runnin kernel 2.2.17) the OS sees only 65 > M of memory. I have tried to use the append command > > mem=768M > > but it still sees only

gettextized console-apt

2000-09-11 Thread kiwamu
Hi! My name is Kiwamu Okabe. I have added gettext-support to console-apt. The gettextized console-apt can print multi-lingual messages. Could you merge it into console-apt? binary

ITS: Gwydion Dylan

2000-09-11 Thread Brent Fulgham
ITS: Intent to Sponsor ;-) > It appears that these were never officially part of Debian. Those > packages originated from ftp://folk.federated.com/pub/gd/DEB/potato > and http://www.gwydiondylan.org/downloading.phtml is what pointed > me there. It looks like you might be in good shape, though I'm

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 04:47:21PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > I believe, that one diff is much more better than many diffs. > This only works, if the diff's are independend or one diff is diff are on > the top of each other. So I do not see the advantage of many diffs. The advantage of hav

Re: devfsd permissions and makedev permissions coordination

2000-09-11 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:18:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 11, Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> This is obviously wrong, ttys must have 620 permissions (or 600 if you > >> don't want people talk(1)ing to you, but I think the default should be > >> to allow it). > >For tty

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > Makes more sense than what we have now, and is easier to seperate (where > as now, the entire debian directory is in a diff, and would be easier to > parse as a tarball of it's own). That's true, the debian-dir in the diff is not very elegant. (But one c

Re: My orphaned packages.

2000-09-11 Thread Daniel Kobras
On 10 Sep 2000, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > `scsh' ought to be taken over by someone who actually uses it. I've > not even looked at it in over a year. If nobody objects I'd like to do this together with Martin Gasbichler who wrote a fair part of scsh 0.6. But me having just applied for Debian m

d-d digest

2000-09-11 Thread Steve Robbins
Hi, I've not received anything via debian-devel-digest since Friday, yet there are new messages visible via the web. Can someone check if the digesting mechanism is broken? -S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#71237: cdparanoia: cannot use cdparanoia 'out of the box' as a non-root user.

2000-09-11 Thread Dale E. Martin
> Basically, cdparanoia requires use of 'scsi-generic' (/dev/sg*) when > reading from SCSI cdrom drives. /dev/sg device nodes are created with > root.root ownership and mode 0600. Which is correct - you definitely want tight access on your devices. > As relaxing permissions in general on /dev/sg

NSS db module, split from glibc

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Collins
Just a heads up, the nss_db module is going away from glibc. It was split from glibc upstream, and will be packaged seperately from now on. For a short while after glibc 2.1.93 is uploaded to woody, there will not be an nss_db module, until I get that package done. If you use this module... Ben -

Upcoming changes with glibc and db2

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Collins
Well, with glibc 2.1.93 on the way into woody, you will all need to note that db/db2 are not in glibc anymore. For now, libdb2 will be supplying the symlinks required to keep packages compiled against glibc's db/db2 from breaking, and libc6 will depend on this new libdb2 package (same as before, b

Re: KDE is not working!

2000-09-11 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
yea..grab the .deb's out of incoming...or change your /usr/bin/startkde script iout with the one I'm attaching. Ivan On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:33:14PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > I just updated my old 1.1.2 installation from Ivan's site to the new 2.0 > packages from woody. And nothing's g

Re: devfsd permissions and makedev permissions coordination

2000-09-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 11, Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is obviously wrong, ttys must have 620 permissions (or 600 if you >> don't want people talk(1)ing to you, but I think the default should be >> to allow it). >For ttys "owned" by a shell that's true, but it's set up by login(1), not >MAKED

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 07:26:15PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Source packages must be for everybody, because we want everybody to go to > > sources, to help us, to get involved... > > Well put. Perhaps what we need is a utility to deDBSify pa

ITP: xxdiff

2000-09-11 Thread T.Pospisek's MailLists
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Tommi Virtanen wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist I intend to package it. This is my first task in order to become Debian developer... *t Tomas Pospisek SourcePole

KDE is not working!

2000-09-11 Thread Michael Meskes
I just updated my old 1.1.2 installation from Ivan's site to the new 2.0 packages from woody. And nothing's going! KDM works but after login I get that splash screen telling me it's trying to setup KDE and even telleing me "KDE is up and running". Then it disappears and the screen remains grey. I c

Re: Debian and KDE: Appology

2000-09-11 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Paul Seelig wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 11:29:37AM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > On Fri 08 Sep 2000, Paul Seelig wrote: > > > > > RMS should IMHO publically apologize with the KDE people for this > > > condescending part of his otherwise correct article. He should be > > > > So now _you_

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Herbert Xu
Nicolás Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Source packages must be for everybody, because we want everybody to go to > sources, to help us, to get involved... Well put. Perhaps what we need is a utility to deDBSify packages. Then the DBS maintainers can keep using DBS to maintain their p

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> The point being, I'm not arguing that the format I or other people are > using is right, but the "system" is more useful than what we are given to > use (the diff/dsc/tar setup). You can argue about the tar in a tar all you > want, I don't like it either. But the seperate patch set is a must, and

Re: modutils-2.3.11-8 request change

2000-09-11 Thread Simon Richter
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Michael Beattie wrote: [modutils bug report] > Your patch would fall perfectly in the "wishlist" category. There is (or rather "should be", I haven't checked whether this bug still exists) an open bug concerning modutils being unremovable and update-modules failing for monol

Re: modutils-2.3.11-8 request change

2000-09-11 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 12:24:51AM -0400, Federico Grau wrote: > Hello Wichert and debian developers, > > I am a relatively new debian user (but long time linux user) and apoligize for > breaking protocol... I have rtfm'ed a lot of debian documentation but still > have a lot more. I have a sugges

Re: RFP: WayV -- gesture based user interface

2000-09-11 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:12:35PM +, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > 2. Initially some programs that work by extending the functionality of > > the mouse to allow gestures to represent actions, i.e. draw a C and > > xcalc starts, draw an N and Netscape starts, etc. > I maintain a package called libs

modutils-2.3.11-8 request change

2000-09-11 Thread Federico Grau
Hello Wichert and debian developers, I am a relatively new debian user (but long time linux user) and apoligize for breaking protocol... I have rtfm'ed a lot of debian documentation but still have a lot more. I have a suggestion to change the package modutils-2.3.11-8 (from potato). After (very

Unidentified subject!

2000-09-11 Thread Federico Grau
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Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > > I'll bet I can get better results using cvs than are possible with DBS. > > Maybe you can, because that is what you prefer. I don't feel like setting > up a CVS repo to do my package maintainence, since that means I tie myself > down to one machine, or have to setup ssh or p

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 08:26:37PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > Still, documentation. Dpkg-source isn't friendly without documentation. > > Nothing is. > > "Oh look, here's a tarball. Hm, and here is a patch that seems to apply > to it. Ok, I see a full source tree now and I'm

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > Still, documentation. Dpkg-source isn't friendly without documentation. > Nothing is. "Oh look, here's a tarball. Hm, and here is a patch that seems to apply to it. Ok, I see a full source tree now and I'm on my way." vs. "Oh look, here's a tarball. Hm, and here is a patch t

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 07:43:07PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > > It doesn't matter if it's user-friendly. The DBS package format is not > > > developer-friendly. > > > > But it's maintainer friendly, and that is far more useful for us to have > > good packages. > > I was usin

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > > It doesn't matter if it's user-friendly. The DBS package format is not > > developer-friendly. > > But it's maintainer friendly, and that is far more useful for us to have > good packages. I was using developer in the sense of "debian developer". However, friendlyliness fo

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Ben Collins
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 06:55:54PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Ben Collins wrote: > > > That kind of packaging is a hack, and a very user unfriendly one. I'd > > > like > > > to have native bzip support, to have a lftp.orig.bz2. > > > > lol, whoever said our source package format was user friendly

Re: why apt/dpkg not using bzip2

2000-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > > That kind of packaging is a hack, and a very user unfriendly one. I'd like > > to have native bzip support, to have a lftp.orig.bz2. > > lol, whoever said our source package format was user friendly to begin > with? It doesn't matter if it's user-friendly. The DBS package

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

2000-09-11 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Ingo Saitz wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:19:10AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > > BTW, on an unrelated note, a ps | grep solution *MUST* deal with the > > following possible scenarios, > [...] > > 3. Multiple instances of daemon (and you want to kill only the one y

Re: RFC: fix for daemon start on package install/upgrade out-of-runlevel

2000-09-11 Thread Henrique M Holschuh
On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Herbert Xu wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:19:10AM -0300, Henrique M Holschuh wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > > Which is why it should only be killed in prerm/preinst. > > > > Which makes all the supposed simple "restart" solution for the runlevel

Re: CGI bug scripts

2000-09-11 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 04:56:29PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Is it my imagination, or is bugreport.cgi *really* slow? I think that > > we should really investigate the possibility of using mod_perl. It's > > using CGI.pm, which is *big* and takes time to load. I've writt

Re: CGI bug scripts

2000-09-11 Thread Joey Hess
Julian Gilbey wrote: > Is it my imagination, or is bugreport.cgi *really* slow? I think that > we should really investigate the possibility of using mod_perl. It's > using CGI.pm, which is *big* and takes time to load. I've written > scripts which I use under mod_perl and the time difference is

Re: please help updating calendar

2000-09-11 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 03:54:13AM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote: > > If there are no fixed events then everything should go in the yearly > > files. > > The events are fixed. The main point is that the Jewish calendar is based on > the motion of the moon, so that a regular Jewish year is 354 days long

Re: Fwd: Re: Help on Debian Project - Need Me?

2000-09-11 Thread Daniele Cruciani
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 02:45:37PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > Previously Daniele Cruciani wrote: > > About doc-central, I think that a person who is looking for > > docomuntation couldn't find nothing better than doc-central: if you > > add image animated icon (flash make want little space on

Re: devfsd permissions and makedev permissions coordination

2000-09-11 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, Sep 10, 2000 at 09:56:30PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 10, Tom Lees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Terminal devices [1]root.tty 0666 > This is obviously wrong, ttys must have 620 permissions (or 600 if you > don't want people talk(1)ing to you, but

Bug#71306: ITP: GZigZag -- An implementation of Ted Nelson's ZigZag

2000-09-11 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package GZigZag, which is a Java implementation of Ted Nelson's ZigZag. A stable release is coming soon, and that's what I'll be packaging. ZigZag is a new way of putting information into computers, kind of a crossing between a database, a filesystem,