Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Herbert Xu
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Herbert> And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh > scripts > Herbert> need to be POSIX compliant. > What policy says is: We were talking about echo -ne, not echo -n

Re: /etc/terminfo/x/xterm problem with ncurses-base 4.2-3 to 5.0-6

2000-08-30 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 31, 2000 at 01:17:20PM +1100, Trent Swift wrote: > When you telnet/ssh from an xterm on a dec/solaris box to potato > machine with ncurses.v.5.0-6, and then run less (or something that > uses /etc/terminfo/x/xterm) the screen goes into reverse video for all > output and with vi/emacs th

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:06:30PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > Which is just a stupid pain in the ass. I had to track through three > different references and finally install the "build-depends" package to > find out what I could leave out of by "Build-Depends" stanza. It would > *much* easier

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:37:52PM -0400, Daniel Burrows wrote: > (especially since this looks like just the well-established behavior of >downloading changed packages..) I dont have a example right now, but on my system aptitude will download the same package again and again. So in case it

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 11:58:22AM -0500, Vincent L. Mulhollon wrote: > Perhaps any package can live in unstable, but any package that has a > release critical bug older than 1 week is zapped from stable and placed back > in unstable. Upon next package upload, it will be reinstated into stable. T

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Peter Teichman wrote: > I have one question. What is the preferred way for me to handle our > gtk package? This is a library package that we actually apply some > patches to for a slightly nicer user interface. Well, we don't have much provision for flavors of shared librari

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 30 Aug 2000, Alex Romosan wrote: > > It means the libc6 package you have installed has a different md5sum then > > the package it finds on ftp.corel.com, and assumes that the version on No, this is not at all how it works.. > which are not on by default and then i have to put the packages on

Re: A sendmail only problem? (Build-Depends and other arch)

2000-08-30 Thread John Goerzen
Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That still begs the question of the autobuild stuff - does it ignore > the Build-Depends? If so, why... This is really weird. It's not supposed to! Somehow it didn't see yours or something! > > -- > Rick > -- John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED

packages up for adoption.

2000-08-30 Thread Takuo KITAME
Hi. I've just orphaned the following packages, because I don't use these anymore. x11/xipmsg: XIP Messenger is a pop up style message communication software. x11/wmitime: yet another clock dock app for Window Maker editors/yc-el: Yet another Canna client for Emacsen. I uploaded packages as

Re: A proposal: un-split perl packages for 5.6.0

2000-08-30 Thread Randolph Chung
> Given that perl generally provides an option for backward compatibility > to a previous release, it would seem that a cleaner alternative is > available. I have prepared a set of non-versioned `perl', `perl-base', > etc. packages for 5.6.0 to demonstrate the proposal: I've been running these fo

/etc/terminfo/x/xterm problem with ncurses-base 4.2-3 to 5.0-6

2000-08-30 Thread Trent Swift
Hi all, I'm having problems with ncurses-base. We have a lot of Solaris 2.6 and Dec Alphas 4.0D and a couple of linux boxes. We're trying to move most of lab machines (~300) over from pc.i86.solaris to debian linux but I've got an annoying xterm problem. When you telnet/ssh from an xterm on a de

Re: Installed console-apt 0.7.7.2potato1 (source i386)

2000-08-30 Thread Randolph Chung
> What does it mean? console-apt is not in potato and is it put again in > stable? rumours about console-apt taking over the world are greatly exaggerated *cough* randolph -- Debian Developer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.TauSq.org/

Re: Rfp: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Eray Ozkural
Seems like my mirror has somehow not been able to update. The latest I've got is M15.. Should check fmirror configuration. Thanks, -- -+++-+++-++-++-++--+---++- --- -- - - + Eray "exa" Ozkural . . . . . . + CS, Bilkent University, Ankara

Pre-ITA: ntop

2000-08-30 Thread Oliver M . Bolzer
I have been using ntop (the version in Debian) for sevel month now, (BI would like to adopt ntop. (B (BAs I am not familiar with newer upstream versions and there seems to be (Ba licence problem with some chart drawing software ntop uses, consider this (Ban preliminary Intent to Adopt. (B (

RE: BTS not showing my bugs

2000-08-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Aug-2000 Brian May wrote: > Ok, > > Can somebody explain the following? > >>From http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>, click on > "Index of maintainers of packages with bug reports.", and then > "Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" takes you to: > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/ma/lBrian_May,bam,debian.

Re: BTS not showing my bugs

2000-08-30 Thread Joey Hess
Brian May wrote: > Can somebody explain the following? > > >From http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>, click on > "Index of maintainers of packages with bug reports.", and then > "Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" takes you to: > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/ma/lBrian_May,bam,debian.org,.html> > > Why is b

BTS not showing my bugs

2000-08-30 Thread Brian May
Ok, Can somebody explain the following? >From http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>, click on "Index of maintainers of packages with bug reports.", and then "Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" takes you to: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/ma/lBrian_May,bam,debian.org,.html> Why is bug #69807, for my diskless-i

Re: Rfp: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Eray Ozkural
If that lib's in M17, how do I get M17 debs? Thanks, -- -+++-+++-++-++-++--+---++- --- -- - - + Eray "exa" Ozkural . . . . . . + CS, Bilkent University, Ankara ^ . o . . | mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. ^ . .

Re: Rfp: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 10:43:01PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote: > orion:exa$ galeon > /usr/bin/galeon-bin: error in loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: > cannot open > shared object file: No such file or directory > > What's happening? Where's this library? How could I install the package

Re: RFP: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 09:26:06PM +0200, Hilko Bengen wrote: > I would like to take it, however, I am not a developer, yet, so you'd > have to sponsor it. Sure. If nobody else object it's yours. Just send me the package if you are done with first packaging. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt <[EMAI

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:51:47PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: > The definition is the following: > > It is not be necessary to explicitly specify build-time relationships > on a minimal set of packages that are always needed to compile, link > and put in a Debian package

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Steve Greenland
On 30-Aug-00, 15:08 (CDT), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously Steve Greenland wrote: > > It is not unreasonable to assume that the latest-and-greatest version of > > all the build-essential packages will be installed. > > I wonder what world you are living in. It is in reali

Re: Installed console-apt 0.7.7.2potato1 (source i386)

2000-08-30 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 09:34:54PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > > Installed: > > console-apt_0.7.7.2potato1_i386.deb > > to dists/proposed-updates/console-apt_0.7.7.2potato1_i386.deb > > What does it mean? console-apt is not in potato and is it put again in > stable? It means that it may en

Re: Bugs over two years old

2000-08-30 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Isn't it time to remove emacs19 from unstable? The emacs20 package is more > than 2 1/2 years old and RMS said that emacs19 is no longer supported > upstream. Emacs 20 is too painfully slow for anyone who doesn't need the mule, and has some bugs, s

Re: gnome-panel-data

2000-08-30 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 08:15:18PM +0200, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote: > > Now, I like asclock and I want to keep it. I also want to be able to test > > a couple of gnome apps (like irssi). > > > > Is there a way to make dselect SHUTUP! and keep away

Re: imap mailbox killer

2000-08-30 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
I had the same problem...I had to manually edit the messages after reading them. On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote: > Package: imap > Version: 4.7c-1 > > (Juhapekka Tolvanen's messages may be found on these mailing lists: > debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-legal@lists.debi

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The definition is the following: > > It is not be necessary to explicitly specify build-time relationships > on a minimal set of packages that are always needed to compile, link > and put in a Debian package a standard "Hello World!" p

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
"Vincent L. Mulhollon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I had a similar thought this weekend. > >Perhaps any package can live in unstable, but any package that has a >release critical bug older than 1 week is zapped from stable and placed back >in unstable. Upon next package upload, it will be reinstat

imap mailbox killer

2000-08-30 Thread Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
Package: imap Version: 4.7c-1 (Juhapekka Tolvanen's messages may be found on these mailing lists: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-legal@lists.debian.org) Man, you got great headers on your messages! I don't know if it was your intension, but you managed to totally screw up my inbox (no hard

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Alex Romosan
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It means the libc6 package you have installed has a different md5sum then > the package it finds on ftp.corel.com, and assumes that the version on > ftp.corel.com is a newer recompile. Strange logic, but that is how > libapt-pkg thinks. > this is so

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:36:12PM -0400, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:32:26PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > > > Could anyone please explain

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:32:26PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > > Could anyone please explain this to me? Did Corel do anything to their files > > that makes apt think it has to upgrade although its

Re: Bugs over two years old

2000-08-30 Thread Mark W. Eichin
>> Isn't it time to remove emacs19 from unstable? The emacs20 package is more >> than 2 1/2 years old and RMS said that emacs19 is no longer supported >> upstream. In fact, it is in the WNPP with an intent-to-orphan... but people seem to care enough to keep doing NMU's...

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Michael Meskes wrote: > Could anyone please explain this to me? Did Corel do anything to their files > that makes apt think it has to upgrade although its up-to-date? Or is this > a bug in apt? It means the libc6 package you have installed has a different md5sum then the package it find

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Richard Braakman wrote: > I don't know how the decision ended up being made, but the argument > I presented at the time is that a dependency on debhelper is far more > likely to be versioned than the others are. A package that makes use > of a new feature of debhelper is going to have t

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Thomas Guettler wrote: > Debian is evolving constantly, not in single steps. True. > But I am interested > what you think about this crazy idea to remove > version numbers (like debian2.2) from debian? Won't work. Users demand a know really stable system, and with a dynamic system we

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Greenland wrote: > It is not unreasonable to assume that the latest-and-greatest version of > all the build-essential packages will be installed. I wonder what world you are living in. It is in reality a completely unreasonable assumption. Wichert. --

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Michael Meskes wrote: > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed > |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: > uppercase=bad) > ||/ NameVersionDescription > +++-===-==-===

Re: Bugs over two years old

2000-08-30 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Anthony Towns wrote: > For your amusement: (it's actually been a year or two since I last posted > this now too... The comments are probably pretty outdated) > > Bugs Over Two Years Old >... >Package: emacs19 >Maintainer: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > Could anyone please explain this to me? Did Corel do anything to their files > > that makes apt think it has to upgrade although its up-to-date? Or is this > > a bug in apt? > > I see this quite often, so it is a bug in the curret apt lib. aptitude

Suggestion about security

2000-08-30 Thread Cherubini Enrico
Hi, my suggestion about choosing between a simple to install or increased security: you can work for easy installing and giving the people the freedom to choice at the end of the installation process if secure the system. There will be a procedure at the end of the installation that will take any a

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> > > > You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. > > > > I have used ash for over a year now as my /bin/sh. > OK, OK, OK, I surrender. I have to admit my experience was rather old and the quantity of bashisms have sharply decreased. So you can run a

Re: .bashrc (ls --color=auto setting)

2000-08-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Paul Slootman wrote: > Then you must have some other arrangement to get the colors; > it's not enabled by default. Try a fresh install (I have). > Maybe a direct setting of LS_COLORS in your .bash_profile or > whatever? Nope: [tornado;~/cistron]-15> env|grep LS zsh: done env |

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. > I have used ash for over a year now as my /bin/sh.

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Eric Schwartz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vincent L. Mulhollon) writes: > Perhaps any package can live in unstable, but any package that has a > release critical bug older than 1 week is zapped from stable and placed back > in unstable. Upon next package upload, it will be reinstated into stable. Ack! Can you imagine

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> And this is Debian where we have a policy that says #!/bin/sh scripts Herbert> need to be POSIX compliant. What policy says is: The standard shell interpreter ``/bin/sh'' can be a symbolic link to any POSIX compat

Re: Rfp: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Eray Ozkural
orion:exa$ galeon /usr/bin/galeon-bin: error in loading shared libraries: libgtkembedmoz.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory What's happening? Where's this library? How could I install the package if this is a dependency? Thanks, -- -+++-+++-++-++-++--+---++-

Re: Installed console-apt 0.7.7.2potato1 (source i386)

2000-08-30 Thread Christian Surchi
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:52:16PM -0400, Randolph Chung wrote: > Installed: > console-apt_0.7.7.2potato1_i386.deb > to dists/proposed-updates/console-apt_0.7.7.2potato1_i386.deb What does it mean? console-apt is not in potato and is it put again in stable? bye Christian -- Christian Surchi

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Christian Marillat
"JG" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Don't forget to put this field in debian/control: >> >> Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JG> Whoa! What packages understand this, and where is it documented? Sorry this is a error. The right place for this is in: /usr/share/bug/$package/cont

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Eray Ozkural
Thomas Guettler wrote: > But I am interested > what you think about this crazy idea to remove > version numbers (like debian2.2) from debian? It's really crazy. Removing version numbers mean that the dependency graph must be synchronized globally which is impossible AFAIK. In addition to this, it

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Arthur Korn
Hello. Anand Kumria schrieb: > Not having the helper packages included in the autobuild system appears to > benefit, at most, around ~470 packages. May I ask how they benefit? It's only a (little) burden on the packages that use debhelper, but I can't see any benefits for packages not using it.

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread John Goerzen
Christian Marillat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't forget to put this field in debian/control: > > Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa! What packages understand this, and where is it documented? > > Christian > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsub

Bug#70603: Can we please list build-essential packages in Developer's Corner?

2000-08-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Package: www.debian.org Severity: wishlist On 2830T130630-0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > find out what I could leave out of by "Build-Depends" stanza. It would > *much* easier for developers, if less ideologically pure, to just list > the damn packages on the Developers Corner part of the webs

Re: Rfp: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 06:59:25PM +0200, Daniele Cruciani wrote: > I've read on this list about ITP of galeon (web browser), but > i don't remenber who announce ITP and I can't find that package on > experimental. I have made a package which can be found uder http://www.debian.org/~rb/galeo

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-08-30 Thread Bob Bernstein
Juhapekka Tolvanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you guys and girls seen this? What do you think about it? > > http://www.securityportal.com/closet/ I demur from the generally benign flavor of the reactions I've seen so far. I think this was a hatchet job by a guy who appears completely disi

Re: Security of Debian SuX0r?

2000-08-30 Thread Colin Watson
Robert van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I don't like crossposting to mailinglists, so i post this to debian-devel, >as well as a Cc to the original author. Maybe you should have *really* Cc'd the original author :) (Read the article again; he isn't Juhapekka, that's for sure ...) -- Co

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Steve Greenland
On 30-Aug-00, 12:51 (CDT), Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2830T112651-0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > That's pretty much the definition (or at least the *use*) of > > Build-Essential: packages that may be assumed to be present, so that > > they need not be listed in Bu

Re: XEmacs/GTK 21.1.11

2000-08-30 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Juhapekka Tolvanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I fear, that it will take so much time, that we must have separately > packaged XEmacs/Gtk meanwhile. And I fear, that latest upstream sources > of XEmacs will ship with too old version of XEmacs/Gtk. Just check out, > how old version of Gnus and Au

Re: RFP: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 08:30:39PM -0500, Roland Bauerschmidt wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist Sorry, /me is a fool. I should have looked in the bug database before reporting this. :-/ Nevertheless I've made a galeon package which should work ok. You can find them under http://www.debia

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2830T112651-0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 29-Aug-00, 16:05 (CDT), Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Would it make sense to make policy something like "All official Debian > > auto-build machines will have installed this set of build packages: gcc, > > ..., and debhelper. Deb

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Teichman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:20:48AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > 3) Libraries - All possible effort should be made to make Debian the > primary source of libraries. Period full stop. This is so important > because of what we are seeing with helix and their special library > pack

Re: Strange messages...

2000-08-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Ashley Clark wrote: > They are courtesy of PostgreSQL, the behaviour of the config file has > changed between two of the versions. You can add PGDEBUG=0 to your > /etc/postgresql/postmaster.init file and they will disappear. > Cool! Thanks, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "

Rfp: galeon

2000-08-30 Thread Daniele Cruciani
Hi, I've read on this list about ITP of galeon (web browser), but i don't remenber who announce ITP and I can't find that package on experimental. thank you. -- Daniele Cruciani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Universita` di Pisa - Informatica - http://www.cli.di.unipi.it/~cruciani/

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Vincent L. Mulhollon
> A Debian package is either unstable, (testing) or stable. > And everybody should use the package that fits his needs. > > Debian is evolving constantly, not in single steps. > > But I am interested > what you think about this crazy idea to remove > version numbers (like debian2.2) from debian?

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Christian Marillat wrote: > Don't forget to put this field in debian/control: > Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Where did that come from That won't do anything at all and will make dpkg-gencontrol complain loudly at you. Wichert. -- _

Re: ANNOUNCE: First official release of "apt-show-source"

2000-08-30 Thread Jim Lynch
Hi, If you were to augment apt-show-source in the following ways, I can see it becoming a household word :) I think for people inside debian who "never gets out", this package can be useful, because then they can see what upstream source pkg to get if they decide to poke outside. However, I don

Re: Strange messages...

2000-08-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Jules Bean wrote: > Well, they're from Postgres, I can tell you that much. OK... > > Probably you have one of the debug trace options on in your postgres > config files (in /etc/postgresql). "I have"? ;-) I looked in /etc/postgresql and found several files, none of which s

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Steve Greenland
On 30-Aug-00, 04:21 (CDT), Richard Braakman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't know how the decision ended up being made, but the argument > I presented at the time is that a dependency on debhelper is far more > likely to be versioned than the others are. A package that makes use > of a new

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-30 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Aug-00, 16:05 (CDT), Buddha Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Would it make sense to make policy something like "All official Debian > auto-build machines will have installed this set of build packages: gcc, > ..., and debhelper. Debian packages are not required to specify build > depend

Re: CGI bug scripts

2000-08-30 Thread James A. Treacy
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:43:29PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:53:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > > Anthony, > > > > Is it my imagination, or is bugreport.cgi *really* slow? I think that > > we should really investigate the possibility of using mod_perl. It's > >

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Teichman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:50:08PM +0200, Christian Marillat wrote: > "PT" == Peter Teichman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > PT> This solution looks like the best one. I'll start rebuilding our > PT> packages immediately. > > Don't forget to put this field in debian/control: > >

Re: APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 03:49:27PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > Could anyone please explain this to me? Did Corel do anything to their files > that makes apt think it has to upgrade although its up-to-date? Or is this > a bug in apt? I see this quite often, so it is a bug in the curret apt lib.

Re: Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 05:05:58PM +0200, Thomas Guettler wrote: > But I am interested > what you think about this crazy idea to remove > version numbers (like debian2.2) from debian? How do u call slink? "Old Stable"? :) No i think it is not a bad idea to have a version number. The only question

Re: MANA - Free Pine? yet another dead mailer/newsreader?

2000-08-30 Thread Sven Guckes
* Jimmy O'Regan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [000829 22:40]: > ) But are there any features that > ) mutt and slrn do not offer yet? > How about "it's pine" ;) No further questions. ;-) > Problem is though, the discussion about the IMAPD license > started with rms mentioning that the FSF had tried to > r

ITP: bbtime -- A blackbox time tool

2000-08-30 Thread Timshel Knoll
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-31 Severity: normal Source: bbdate Section: unknown Priority: optional Maintainer: Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 1.2.9), xlib6g-dev, libstdc++-dev, g++ Standards-Version: 3.1.1 Package: bbdate Architecture: any Depends:

ITP: bbsload -- A blackbox system load tool

2000-08-30 Thread Timshel Knoll
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-31 Severity: normal Source: bbdate Section: x11 Priority: optional Maintainer: Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 1.2.9), xlib6g-dev, libstdc++-dev, g++ Standards-Version: 3.1.1 Package: bbdate Architecture: any Depends: ${s

ITP: bbdate -- A blackbox date tool

2000-08-30 Thread Timshel Knoll
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-31 Severity: normal Source: bbdate Section: x11 Priority: optional Maintainer: Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 1.2.9), xlib6g-dev, libstdc++-dev, g++ Standards-Version: 3.1.1 Package: bbdate Architecture: any Depends: ${s

ITP: bbppp -- A blackbox ppp tool

2000-08-30 Thread Timshel Knoll
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2000-08-31 Severity: normal Source: bbppp Section: x11 Priority: optional Maintainer: Timshel Knoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 1.2.9), xlib6g-dev, libstdc++-dev, g++ Standards-Version: 3.1.1 Package: bbppp Architecture: any Depends: ${shl

ANNOUNCE: First official release of "apt-show-source"

2000-08-30 Thread Dennis Schoen
ANNOUNCE: First official release of "apt-show-source" What is it? It's a perl script that parses the dpkg status file and that APT list files that end with Sources, without any options it prints out all installed packages and versions were a different version is available through your sources

Crazy idea: removing version numbers from debian

2000-08-30 Thread Thomas Guettler
Redhat, Suse, Microsoft they need version numbers so that they can announce their great new release of their operating system. It is more or less marketing hype. But Debian is different. It is a collection of several single application on top of Linux/Hurd. And we don't need the marketing hype of

Re: CGI bug scripts

2000-08-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:53:46PM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: > Anthony, > > Is it my imagination, or is bugreport.cgi *really* slow? I think that > we should really investigate the possibility of using mod_perl. It's > using CGI.pm, which is *big* and takes time to load. I've written > script

apt source for sather and ddclient

2000-08-30 Thread Eray Ozkural
You may use the following apt source for my ddclient deb and the sather debs that I've fixed for woody. deb http://139.179.21.143/~exa/debian/ ./ Please see ITPs on wnpp and on this list for information on these packages. Thanks, __ -+++-+++-++-++-++--+---++- --- -- - - + E

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-30 Thread Martin Jenssen
* Chris Allegretta | I found a copy at ftp://ftp.kvaleberg.com/pub/mana-4.0beta.tar.gz, I | guess it's a mirror. A whole lot of warnings when trying to compile it, | but it looks interesting. Actually, I think it's the official site. The official homepage for Mana is: http://www.kvaleb

dpkg-scanpackages arguments, output Packages files, and apt

2000-08-30 Thread Eray Ozkural
I was running dpkg-scanpackages to construct a custom apt source. This was the first time I really ran it, so I encountered the peculiar style that I had to conform to. This was what I had to write to make a Packages file in a flat dir: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html/debian$ dpkg-scanpackages .

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-30 Thread Chris Allegretta
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 05:56:28PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: > > > http://home.sol.no/~egilk/mana.html > > I was curious to see it, but I can't download. Ftp server does not allow > anonymous connection... I found a copy

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Christian Marillat
"PT" == Peter Teichman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] PT> This solution looks like the best one. I'll start rebuilding our PT> packages immediately. Don't forget to put this field in debian/control: Send-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christian

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Anton Ivanov wrote: > > apache starts up correctly for me on every system boot, and I do have > > /bin/sh pointing to /bin/ash as well. > > My fault. It actually uses #!/bin/bash which it should not anyway Well, #!/bin/bash scripts are allowed to use bashisms :) Ulf

APT problem

2000-08-30 Thread Michael Meskes
I just tried to upgrade my Corel installation via the net and have some strange behaviour when using apt: feivel:~# dpkg -l libc6ΒΈ Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Sta

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Anton Ivanov
> Anton Ivanov wrote: > > > If you are right at least apache scripts are not. I suggest you > > file a bug against it. > > If you know how to call apache scripts to demonstrate the error then > please file the bug yourself. > > Check before, if you run an up-to-date apache. I do > >

Re: .bashrc (ls --color=auto setting)

2000-08-30 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 02:31:26PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > Why do you need to run dircolors anyway? I don't and I still get > > coloured output.. > Then you must have some other arrangement to get the colors; > it's not enabled by default. Try a fresh install (I have). > Maybe a direct sett

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Teichman
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 01:20:48AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > That is one mechanism of creating a private namespace, isn't another > > > Setting the origin to something other than Debian? > > > > Please see elsewhere in this thread for

Re: Strange messages...

2000-08-30 Thread Ashley Clark
* Dale Scheetz in "Strange messages..." dated 2000/08/30 04:17 wrote: > Since my last upgrade to potato I've been getting a lot of messages > like the following: > > DEBUG: --Relation pg_rules-- > DEBUG: Pages 0: Changed 0, Reapped 0, Empty 0, New 0; Tup 0: Vac 0, > Keep/VTL 0/0, Crash 0, UnUse

Re: (Beware helix packages) Re: [CrackMonkey] The right to bare legs

2000-08-30 Thread Peter Teichman
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 10:02:04PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > No, there is no difference between our apps and the upstream in most > > cases. We do brand gnome-core and gdm, but those are the only packages > > I can think of offhand. Those are only graphics changes, substituting > > some of

debian 2.2 review at http://www.securityportal.com/closet/

2000-08-30 Thread Paul Slootman
I've just read your article on debian 2.2. While you make many valid points, I'm confused about a couple of them. Moving on. Once the basic install is done, you will discover that several services are enabled in inetd that shouldn't be. Discard, daytime, time, shell, login,

Re: Strange messages...

2000-08-30 Thread Jules Bean
On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 04:17:42AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote: > Since my last upgrade to potato I've been getting a lot of messages like > the following: > > DEBUG: --Relation pg_rules-- > DEBUG: Pages 0: Changed 0, Reapped 0, Empty 0, New 0; Tup 0: Vac 0, > Keep/VTL 0/0, Crash 0, UnUsed 0, MinL

Re: Strange messages...

2000-08-30 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Quoting Dale Scheetz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Since my last upgrade to potato I've been getting a lot of messages like > the following: > There doesn't seem to be any real information here. Can anyone tell me > what is triggering these messages? They're postgres debug messages. Somehow, the newest

Strange messages...

2000-08-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
Since my last upgrade to potato I've been getting a lot of messages like the following: DEBUG: --Relation pg_rules-- DEBUG: Pages 0: Changed 0, Reapped 0, Empty 0, New 0; Tup 0: Vac 0, Keep/VTL 0/0, Crash 0, UnUsed 0, MinLen 0, MaxLen 0; Re-using: Free/Avail. Space 0/0; EndEmpty/Avail. Pages 0/0

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Anton Ivanov wrote: > If you are right at least apache scripts are not. I suggest you > file a bug against it. If you know how to call apache scripts to demonstrate the error then please file the bug yourself. Check before, if you run an up-to-date apache. apache starts up correctly

Re: Installed ld.so.preload-manager 0.3.2-2 (source i386)

2000-08-30 Thread Ron Rademaker
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Ben Collins wrote: > > Changes: > > ld.so.preload-manager (0.3.2-2) unstable; urgency=low > > . > >* Closes:#70398 > > I've noticed sort of a trend here lately. Changelog entries are getting > more and more ambiguous. Can this stop please? You won't see anything like

CGI bug scripts

2000-08-30 Thread Julian Gilbey
Anthony, Is it my imagination, or is bugreport.cgi *really* slow? I think that we should really investigate the possibility of using mod_perl. It's using CGI.pm, which is *big* and takes time to load. I've written scripts which I use under mod_perl and the time difference is astonishing. It wo

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