Re: Weird errors from update-alternatives

1999-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 05:21:31PM -0400, Andrew Pimlott was heard to say: > See bug 37252--I believe it is responsible for what you are seeking. > > tkstep8.0 registers slave alternatives (under wish) for > /usr/man/man1/wish8.0.1.gz and /usr/bin/wish8.0 . This is bad because 1) > tk8.0 does not

App crashes XServer

1999-10-06 Thread Rainer Dorsch
I am trying to display a commercial app on a Debian System (the application runs on a remote Solaris system). The application fails and crashes even the X-Server on a potato system. Can anybody tell me what the appropiate procedure is to report the bug (simply filing this message as a bug again

Re: procps trying to overwrite /bin/kill

1999-10-06 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 09:44:46AM +0200, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: > > No, news bsdutils package is without kill. Oh, wee, another portable program bites the dust. Is the kill in procps linux specific, eg, does it make use of the proc filesystem? This won't work in the Hurd, so the Hurd would be wi

Re: Weird errors from update-alternatives

1999-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 03:30:29PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman was heard to say: > Previously Daniel Burrows wrote: > > My system upgrade today (from yesterday's potato to today's potato) > > produced > > the following odd output: > > What version of dpkg do you have? > > Wichert. Currently 1.4

Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-06 Thread Greg Vence
I've got an 8 port 10/100 switch we can use also... Nothing fancy just a NetGear box, but it works fine. Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote: > > Woohoo.. Just got the permission to skip two days from office for ALS. Will > be there with my machine.. Dual celeron (300 oc'd 450) with a 19' monitor

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread Rene Mayrhofer
Brian May wrote: > When you loaded that image, whether you used apache, gimp, xv, or > something else, it would automatically know what file type it is without > any excessive overhead. In my opinion one of the best features of BeOS is that the file type is an extra attribute stored at file system

Re: permission denied on owned files

1999-10-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 6 Oct 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the > > subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the > > build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Brian May wrote: > >> What I really would like is a filesystem that can store a mime-type for > >> every file... That way no magic databases are required. In addition, the > >> kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different > >> file extensions, or somet

Re: permission denied on owned files

1999-10-06 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:02:57PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the > subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the > build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get: > > ---

Re: bootpd/tftpd bug

1999-10-06 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Eduardo Marcel Macan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have only noticed it on a slink machine, I ask someone who has > potatoes to test it too... > > I am configuring one machine as a boot server in order to install > Debian in a PowerPC (IBM 43P) I have here, but one strange thing is

Re: A new axis for bugs?

1999-10-06 Thread David Coe
Michael Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:34:20AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: [...] > > unreproduced > > reproduced > > possible fix > > known fix > > > > Basically I see bug fixing as proceeding sequentially down this list. > > There's a state above "unrepr

bootpd/tftpd bug

1999-10-06 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
I have only noticed it on a slink machine, I ask someone who has potatoes to test it too... I am configuring one machine as a boot server in order to install Debian in a PowerPC (IBM 43P) I have here, but one strange thing is happening. bootpd gets the request and sends t

start daemons corresponding to the current runlever upon upgrade

1999-10-06 Thread Ingo Saitz
MoiN Uups, I forgot to include the actual skripts. So here they are: Ingo -- What's the difference between cold tee and cold coffee? Cold coffe doesn't taste good even if it would still be hot. start-rc.d.tgz Description: GNU Unix tar archive

Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-06 Thread Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam
Woohoo.. Just got the permission to skip two days from office for ALS. Will be there with my machine.. Dual celeron (300 oc'd 450) with a 19' monitor. Who's co ordinating... Regards, Vaidhy On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 07:30:30AM -0700, Greg & Heather Vence wrote: > I could haul my printer in again.

Re: ITP: Re: Must hand off XEmacs21 project!

1999-10-06 Thread Kurt D. Starsinic
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 08:25:03PM +0900, Takuo KITAME wrote: > > On 02 Oct 1999 18:49:59 -0400 > > "Dres" == James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... > Dres> So, to all on devel consider this a ITP on xemacs21 and I would > Dres> appreciate anyone who has a chance to test the packages.

Suggestion: controlling the load average

1999-10-06 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
I think the Debian installation tools need something to monitor the load average, to prevent systems from [ct]rashing during install. Cfr. sendmail which stops processing mail when it detects that the load average is above a specified threshold. A lot of programs start update-menus in the backgro

Re: permission denied on owned files

1999-10-06 Thread Ryan Murray
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:02:57PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the > subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the > build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get: > > drw-rw-

Re: permission denied on owned files

1999-10-06 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the > subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the > build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get: > $ cd sbuild > sh: cd: sbuild:

start daemons according to current runlevel upon upgrade

1999-10-06 Thread Ingo Saitz
MoiN On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:37:48PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:14:11AM +0200, Ingo Saitz wrote: > > Perhaps every postinst shold do something like this: > > if test -e /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -d\ -f2`.d/S??$DAEMON; then > > /etc/init.d/$DAEMON start > > fi

permission denied on owned files

1999-10-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
Something else strange just happened during an autobuild pass. All of the subdirectories in my build tree have suddenly become inaccessable to the build user, who owns all the files and directories. Here is what I get: --begin paste- $ user build

Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?

1999-10-06 Thread Steve Bowman
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 05:30:13AM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote: > > BTW, I *like* the idea of moving stuff out of /etc to /usr/etc or > maybe /usr/local/etc. It's not the /etc is too big, it's too messy. > I just think that stuff in /bin and /sbin set an upper bound on what > can be moved without b

Re: couple of nits/warnings

1999-10-06 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Bdale Garbee wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > tar -zxf control.tar.gz control ./control > > You can also use > > tar -zxf control.tar.gz *control > > which does not produce an error, and extracts either one. This is the fix I > supplied for l

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-06 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:12:08PM +0200, Staffan Hämälä was heard to say: > > NO, NO, NO, this is not redhat.com! Do this on a Debian only if you really > > know what you are doing or you may destroy your system. > > As far as I can see there is often not another way to do it. > Ie., program com

Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?

1999-10-06 Thread Steve Bowman
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 09:20:32PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 03:43:07AM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote: > > > I think if you are going to use /usr/etc, programs should first check > > > /etc, in case the system administrator wishes to override the sharable > > > config file for t

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread David Weinehall
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Brian May wrote: [snip] > - The information it proprietary, and not used anywhere else. That's true... > - I am not very familar with the operating system, so there might > be more points that I have missed. Perhaps there are difficulties > loading a file for one applicatio

Re: Unstable release

1999-10-06 Thread Staffan Hämälä
On Tue, 05 Oct 1999, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > If I could just get it installed properly (I run it at home, > > but had to do a lot of manual tuning, and adding all packages > > I wanted using dpkg --force* > > NO, NO, NO, this is not redhat.com! Do this on a Debian only if you really > kno

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-06 Thread Herbert Xu
Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 02, Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The patent makes it non-free, so does the new license. > Really? In my country RSA is not patented, why should I care about what > happens in someone else country? Please have a look at our policy. -

Re: Uninstallable Packages

1999-10-06 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Filip" == Filip Van Raemdonck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Filip> IMO there's yet another issue to consider (which brings another Filip> complication with it): there may be people who will want both Filip> mesa and glx, if they own a Riva or Matrox + Voodoo* add-on Filip> board. /me waves his h

Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-06 Thread Greg & Heather Vence
I could haul my printer in again. Also, I've got a real machine this year... AMD K6-III 450MHz Viper 770, NetGear 10/100 NIC... 19" Optiquest monitor. Who's coordinating? TIA -- Greg. - Original Message - From: Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAI

Re: ITP: Re: Must hand off XEmacs21 project!

1999-10-06 Thread Takuo KITAME
> On 02 Oct 1999 18:49:59 -0400 > "Dres" == James LewisMoss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote... Dres> So, to all on devel consider this a ITP on xemacs21 and I would Dres> appreciate anyone who has a chance to test the packages. Apt line Dres> that should work: "deb http://va.debian.org/~dres xe

Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?

1999-10-06 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 03:43:07AM -0700, Steve Bowman wrote: > > I think if you are going to use /usr/etc, programs should first check > > /etc, in case the system administrator wishes to override the sharable > > config file for the given host. > > This is a good idea for programs that live in /

Re: Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)

1999-10-06 Thread Tom Pfeifer
> But if we create _debian-user-unstable_, the _debian-user_ readers > would miss (would they care?) the discussions -- some of them > interesting -- about changes, and might therefore be less well > prepared to handle the upgrade to potato when it becomes stable. > > So I obviously can't make up

Re: perl dependancy problem

1999-10-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:00PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > What am I supposed to do? I could make debconf depend on perl-5.005, but it > really works with any version of perl 5. Also, if only perl-5.004-base, > perl-5.005, and perl-5.005-base were installed, and the alternatives pointed > /usr/bi

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread Brian May
>> In addition, the >> kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different >> file extensions, or something. > >You say a magic type database is a hack, and on the other hand file >exetensions are a better indicator? Phew. Microsoft uses file extension >(".tgz file" if it can't re

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread Brian May
>> What I really would like is a filesystem that can store a mime-type for >> every file... That way no magic databases are required. In addition, the >> kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different >> file extensions, or something. >> >> This would mean instead of having

Re: A new axis for bugs?

1999-10-06 Thread Michael Stone
[moved to -devel] On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:34:20AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: > I like this idea, but I think it is orthogonal to the existing bug > categories. > > I don't know what you would call it, but I imagine a 4-way status switch: > > unreproduced > reproduced > possible fix > know

Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?

1999-10-06 Thread Steve Bowman
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 08:31:02PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >> Config files are, by their nature, host-specific, and should not be in > >> /usr > > > >They are not. e.g. /etc/hosts should be the same across a pool. Nearly > >all files in /etc can be sha

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Mmh. I like to think of the file utility as the standard reference. I didn't >knew about any other such databases. That apache uses file extensions is >bad, but it's reasonable for a browser which only serves a well defined set >of files. Any program that

Re: /usr/etc and /usr/local/etc?

1999-10-06 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >> Config files are, by their nature, host-specific, and should not be in >> /usr > >They are not. e.g. /etc/hosts should be the same across a pool. Nearly >all files in /etc can be shared and none should be rewritten on the >fly. Agreed. My diskless pack

Re: recompile needed for xlib6g (>= 3.3.5-1) instead of (>= 3.3.2.3a-2) ?

1999-10-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:43:14AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > Should I rebuild the i386 binaries with the new xlib6g-dev > > > and upload them with .0.1 version number suffix? Or perhaps it > > >

Re: Uninstallable Packages

1999-10-06 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Joseph Carter wrote: > On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:13:51PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > Depends: libgl1 ; which doesn't exist > > This exists in CVS. libGL.so.1 is what is used by the latest versions of > GLX and Mesa. I think the problem was coming up with a sane way to make

Re: Intent to give away or REMOVE: tkstep

1999-10-06 Thread Federico di Gregorio
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:45:59PM -0400, Steve Kostecke wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Ciao *, > > > I state my complete lack of interest for tkstep, in both its > > 4.2 and 8.0 incarnations. 4.2 is now obsolete (as tk 4.2 is) an

Re: Package giveaway, will sponsor if necessary.

1999-10-06 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wednesday 6 October 1999, at 11 h 29, the keyboard of Drake Diedrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >gtkglarea - I'm still using this, but if someone wants to lighten my load >it could go with gtkglareamm. I maintain xt, which uses it. And another GtkGl library, which is no lo

Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread Jean-Christophe . Dubacq
On 5 Oct 1999, Ben Pfaff wrote: > "A. M. Varon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Could we have a potato mailing lists? > That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another > list for it? Maybe a debian-design would care of long-terms management and a debian-devel would care of

Re: perl dependancy problem

1999-10-06 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:00PM -0700, Joey Hess écrivait: > What am I supposed to do? I could make debconf depend on perl-5.005, but it > really works with any version of perl 5. Also, if only perl-5.004-base, > perl-5.005, and perl-5.005-base were installed, and the alternatives pointed > /usr

Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote: > 2.1.3-2 is one that does it ... Seems to behave itself here. But then I only have fvwm2 installed, none of these fancy new wms. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB. CCs of replies on mailing lists are welcome.

Re: vim/nvi priority Re: moving mutt to standard priority

1999-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 07:15:10PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > As to why nvi is "Standard" and vim/elvis/etc. are "Optional", it's > because nvi is closest to a standard, classic, BSD Bill Joy vi, warts > and all. Also, I think it's the smallest full-fledged vi. Certainly Yes, and those are go

Re: procps trying to overwrite /bin/kill

1999-10-06 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Mirek Kwasniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:24:35AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > Package: procps > > Version: 1:2.0.3-3 > > > > Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using > > .../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb) .. > > . > > Unpacking replacement procps ... > > dpkg:

Re: perl dependancy problem

1999-10-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:28:34PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Yick. Perhaps the alternative priorities could be arranged differently? > That doesn't address the real problem, which is that one version of perl may > be installed and satisfy the dependancy, while the alternatives system makes > anot

Re: procps trying to overwrite /bin/kill

1999-10-06 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 02:24:35AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Package: procps > Version: 1:2.0.3-3 > > Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using .../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb) > .. > . > Unpacking replacement procps ... > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i

Re: perl dependancy problem

1999-10-06 Thread Joey Hess
Anthony Towns wrote: > Huh? perl-5.005 is priority: important, and it doesn't seem to conflict > with anything else. How come it didn't get installed? I dunno. I installed the base system from cd, went into dselect, selected nothing that wasn't automatically selected, and installed, then went on t

procps trying to overwrite /bin/kill

1999-10-06 Thread Colin Walters
Package: procps Version: 1:2.0.3-3 Preparing to replace procps 1:2.0.3-3 (using .../procps_1%3a2.0.3-4_i386.deb) ..

Re: perl dependancy problem

1999-10-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 10:27:00PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > I have a package (debconf) that uses lib.pm. This is in perl-5.00[54]. It > depends on perl5. I just installed a fresh unstable system, using the > defaults. perl-5.004-base and perl-5.004 were installed, as was > perl-5.005-base. perl-5.

perl dependancy problem

1999-10-06 Thread Joey Hess
I have a package (debconf) that uses lib.pm. This is in perl-5.00[54]. It depends on perl5. I just installed a fresh unstable system, using the defaults. perl-5.004-base and perl-5.004 were installed, as was perl-5.005-base. perl-5.005 itself was not installed. perl -v says perl 5.005 is being used

Re: couple of nits/warnings

1999-10-06 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > tar -zxf control.tar.gz control ./control You can also use tar -zxf control.tar.gz *control which does not produce an error, and extracts either one. This is the fix I supplied for lintian when the tar upstream changed the way pathname whack

ITP: rtf2latex (was: Package giveaway, will sponsor if necessary.)

1999-10-06 Thread Kevin Bullock
On Wed, 6 Oct 1999, Drake Diedrich wrote: >rtf2latex - simple C program. New upstream waiting at CTAN. >Excellent first package. It'll technically be my second now, but first actually put into the distro. ;p I would like to package rtf2latex. If you'd like to give it to me let

Splitting debian-user (was Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO...)

1999-10-06 Thread David Coe
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "A. M. Varon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Could we have a potato mailing lists? > > That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another > list for it? Ben answered on _debian-devel_, but not on _debian-user_; I hope he doesn't min

Re: should installed daemons automatically restart upon upgrade?

1999-10-06 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 12:14:11AM +0200, Ingo Saitz wrote: > Perhaps every postinst shold do something like this: > if test -e /etc/rc`runlevel | cut -d\ -f2`.d/S??$DAEMON; then > /etc/init.d/$DAEMON start > fi This doesn't work for people using file-rc (which uses files to describe runl

Re: Intent to give away or REMOVE: tkstep

1999-10-06 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 09:39:14PM +0200, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > I state my complete lack of interest for tkstep, in both its > 4.2 and 8.0 incarnations. 4.2 is now obsolete (as tk 4.2 is) and 8.0 > is not kept updated by its upstream author. I use very few tk programs > myself, so i'd

Re: linking binfmt_misc with mime-types

1999-10-06 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Brian May wrote: [...] > > What I really would like is a filesystem that can store a mime-type for > every file... That way no magic databases are required. In addition, the > kernel could be configured to assign default mime-types for different > file extensions, or somethin

Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
"A. M. Varon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could we have a potato mailing lists? That's part of what debian-devel *is* for. Why would we want another list for it? -- "MONO - Monochrome Emulation This field is used to store your favorite bit." --FreeVGA Attribute Controller Reference

Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-06 Thread Peter Teichman
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 04:55:12PM -0400, Johnie Ingram wrote: > > ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community > pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in > Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas? I'll be there for the

Re: Some developers still using slink?

1999-10-06 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 11:00:46AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote: > > > So how many other developers are not using unstable? Raul Miller wrote: > > Perhaps this should be taken up on another list, if you expect input > > from more than a few people. On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 02:43:25PM -0700, Joey Hess

Re: dpkg -l format

1999-10-06 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Colin Walters wrote: > > The output format of dpkg -l is terrible. Many package names exceed > the measly 16 characters allotted. Many, many times when trying to Yes. > what I really want to do is dpkg -l '*netscape*' | xargs dpkg --purge. I recommend dpkg --get-selectio

Package giveaway, will sponsor if necessary.

1999-10-06 Thread Drake Diedrich
I'm just looking to create some free time to put into other projects. If no one wants these I'll just keep going, but updates will be seldom. I'll sponsor new maintainers of these until they get their upload privs. rtf2latex - simple C program. New upstream waiting at CTAN. E

RE: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread A. M. Varon
> It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's, > and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but > they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw > gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3 mins, then wmaker running at

Re: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-06 Thread Rob Tillotson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Johnie Ingram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community > pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in > Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from > Dallas? I'm goi

Re: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
So that's what did that! It was not anywhere near as disastrous as some of the things which update-xaw-wrappers has done to my system. In any case, I grabbed the new menu from incoming. On Tue, Oct 05, 1999 at 08:13:41PM -0400, Terry Katz wrote: > 2.1.3-2 is one that does it ... > > It doesn't

RE: DO NOT UPGRADE TO POTATO. MENU UPLOAD ON OCT 2 KILLS SYSTEMS

1999-10-06 Thread Terry Katz
2.1.3-2 is one that does it ... It doesn't totally kill the system .. It seems to start up the various wm's, and they run at about 95% cpu and 88%+ memory for about 2-5 mins (each), but they do die (or finish?) and everything is fine (my worst case, I saw gnome-panel running at 95% for about 3 min

vim/nvi priority Re: moving mutt to standard priority

1999-10-06 Thread Steve Greenland
On 05-Oct-99, 04:00 (CDT), Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree... Why does it [vim] have a lower priority in alternatives > than nvi? I don't know. That's not what I remember from the discussion amongst the various vi and editor maintainers when we set the relative priorities, but