Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Clint Adams
> And of course you can always do dpkg --force-conflicts. I believe that's what > the --force commands are really there for: special situations. Broken situations. Sure, you can --force dpkg to overwrite files from another package. But Debian prefers to fix the problem instead.

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Ben Collins wrote: > Now when dpkg first unpacks a package, it replaces binaries by first, > chmod 600 on the binary (I'm not sure why, but it does), then unlinking > it. The reason why dpkg does this is because of a neat little hard link exploit. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp>ln /usr/gamesxthrust [EMAI

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 05:12:00PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: > > If you want to run two httpd's, popd's or mta's, you'll probably have to > > do more than the usual tweaking to the package setup anyway, so what is > > really the big deal of having to: > > > > 1. `apt-get source foo` > > 2. edit

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Scott K. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>These packages don't conflict; they merely provide the same >> service. There is no reason that these three packages cannot >> coexist on the same system. Any namespace overlap can be >> solved by alternatives or renaming, as such things are normall

Re: problems with the perl5 packages

1999-09-24 Thread Chip Salzenberg
According to Dale Scheetz: > Are there any circumstances where perl-5.004 is compatible with earlier > version like perl-4? Most Perl 4 programs still work fine with any version of Perl 5. But there were a couple of language changes between Perl 4 and Perl 5 that actually make programs fail (but

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 24, 1999

1999-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Package: midentd (main) >> Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> 45344 midentd: needs a Conflicts: with other identd's available > Oki. I have a little time to try to fix this, quite simpel acctually. > What identd's are there

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-24 Thread Herbert Xu
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 09:03:14PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: > > In /usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.1/Makefile (the most recent slink source > .deb available): > > on line 18 > HOSTCC =gcc > > and on line 25 > CC =$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I$(HPATH) > > This goes for ot

Useless packages (was Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb)

1999-09-24 Thread David Starner
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 05:59:27PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Nevertheless it is moot point because we are running out of room and there > has to be a third CD. It might as well contain all the documents and > other packages non-essential to using an OS. > > Here's another idea. What about

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-24 Thread Ed Boraas
> Taking the risk to burn like hell: I think the "exhaustive exploration" > of ANY political theory and practice is VERY misplaced in ANY Linux > distribution. I would say the same thing about "The top 1000 FAQ on > home-made apple pie", but nobody has packaged that (yet). > > To give a positive fo

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-24 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On 24 Sep 1999, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > In my understanding the bible packages belong into contrib *at > best*, since it's value to the public is at least questionable if not > offensive to muslims, buddhists(no not to them), hindus ... > Um, I'm a Hindu, a Shastri (Hindu priest) actually. And

Re: Funding for a Crazy Idea

1999-09-24 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 01:31:58PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Helen McCall wrote: > > In the meanwhile; If you are prepared to accept funding from such a > > source, there is always NATO. They fund many such things if they are > > giving good participation to what NATO calls "Sensitive Areas". > >

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-24 Thread Jesse Jacobsen
On 09/24/99 at 21:29:04, Siggy Brentrup wrote concerning "Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb": > Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In my understanding the bible packages belong into contrib *at > best*, since it's value to the public is at least questionable if not > offensive to muslims, b

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Clint Adams
> If you want to run two httpd's, popd's or mta's, you'll probably have to > do more than the usual tweaking to the package setup anyway, so what is > really the big deal of having to: > > 1. `apt-get source foo` > 2. edit various files, mostly in debian/ > 3. add an epoch to the package versio

Re: Packages available: xracer

1999-09-24 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
> http://users.compagnet.be/mechanix/debian/ > Oops, that should be http://users.compaqnet.be/mechanix/debian/ Also, the upload is done now.

I'll be busy

1999-09-24 Thread Darren O. Benham
Ok, people... I'm moving to a new job in a new city in a new state (same country, though). I'm not sure how much connectivity I'll have until I get settled. So, for the next week or two, I will be slow to respond and sorta (possibly) outta touch. -- Please cc all mailing list replies to me, als

Re: Funding for a Crazy Idea

1999-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Helen McCall wrote: > In the meanwhile; If you are prepared to accept funding from such a > source, there is always NATO. They fund many such things if they are > giving good participation to what NATO calls "Sensitive Areas". Weird. > Such areas include Portugal, Greece, Turkey, etc. Do you have

Funding for a Crazy Idea

1999-09-24 Thread Helen McCall
Hello Joey, With reference to your "Crazy Idea": I am not a developer, but I do have good experience obtaining funding for things like this. I will give it some thought and let you know the ideas I come up with for funding. In the meanwhile; If you are prepared to accept funding from such a sou

Re: ITO penguineyes and bvi

1999-09-24 Thread Christian Kurz
On 99-09-23 Stijn de Bekker wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21 1999, Christian Kurz wrote: > > I intent to orphan bvi and penguineyes. I will orphan bvi, because I > > don't use it much anymore and penugineyes will get orphaned, because I > > gave gnome I try, but I don't like it much and so I want to remove

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Joost Kooij
Hi, On 24 Sep 1999, David Coe wrote: > Looking at libc6.postinst I see that it runs (at least) two > perl scripts: update-rc.d and suidregister. I believe it was > update-rc.d that failed, but I can't be positive. That is a correct observation. Fix: # chmod 755 /usr/bin/perl-5.005 # dpkg --c

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Joost Kooij
Hi, On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Clint Adams wrote: > I run apache and roxen on the same machine. That's hardly typical. > Why on earth would anyone want to run two different web servers? > These two packages should obviously conflict since they're both > web servers and want to grab port 80. I'd say t

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread David Coe
Mirek Kwasniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:22:02AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > [...] > > It is left like this until perl is configured and the postinst script > > takes care of moving perl-5.005.dist to perl-5.005. > > > > > > Why does perl need to do all this hardl

Packages available: xracer

1999-09-24 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Hi, following my ITP I have made some packages for xracer. They are available from http://users.compagnet.be/mechanix/debian/ (I'm uploading right now) I'm waiting for my application as a developer to be processed; in the meanwhile maybe someone could sponsor them? There are a few issues howev

Re: taper up for adoption

1999-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > Well, this package seems to be very buggy. Maybe should go to contrib dir? See debian-policy, we may soon not use the contrib dir for that. > I use it for my daily backup and I can take this package. > I'll adopt it to FHS. It's yours. Please upload a version with your

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-24 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Tomasz Wegrzanowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Just make sure that when you do throw it out, you take the bible with it :) *SECONDED* > I dont think throwing out bible(1) is a good idea > It is exactly, letter-after-letter what it claim to be, it is on 2nd CD, > well-compressed > (anarchis

Re: building kernel 2.0.x under potato

1999-09-24 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
(I originally meant this for the mailing list, but it seems I forgot to set the cc:, therefore I'm doing it now.) Herbert Xu wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 10:27:32PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote: > > Kernel compilation ignores the CC variable. The compiler is hardcoded to > > 'gcc' in th

Re: i dont understand something or dpkg is simply buggy

1999-09-24 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fumitoshi UKAI) writes: > We are now trying to merge man-db-ja features to man-db cooperated with > Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, so man-db-ja will not be removed soon. err. I think that UKAI has wished to write here "so man-db-ja

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Clint Adams
> Of course. Now if you built them yourself, dpkg wouldn't touch them. If I wanted to build them myself, I would use Slackware. If I repackage them I will need to remove the Conflicts line from the control files every single time I upgrade. > People who want such "complex" setups should have eno

Re: Too many kernels in unstable

1999-09-24 Thread Filip Van Raemdonck
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Perhaps the last two kernels of the stable tree(s) is good. > We have more kernels now because 2.0.X didn't die after 2.2.X was > released. Doesn't that argue that 2.2.X wasn't ready? This could also be caused by the fact that someone, though he might be tempted to upgra

Re: anarchism_7.7-1.deb

1999-09-24 Thread Tomasz Wegrzanowski
> Just make sure that when you do throw it out, you take the bible with it :) I dont think throwing out bible(1) is a good idea It is exactly, letter-after-letter what it claim to be, it is on 2nd CD, well-compressed (anarchism was in both text and html unpacked versions) and is wide-used doc, al

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
> > Okay, then solve the problem of which one should actually work on the > > standard port? You can't use update-alternatives if the software is > > Well, I would prefer that things didn't start listening for connections > without asking first, but I can't imagine that that's a popular suggestion

Re: Pablo News

1999-09-24 Thread Russell Coker
Does anyone know who this pablo idiot is and what needs to be done to stop him spamming the Debian lists? On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Pablo´s Home Page wrote: >Amigos, he vuelto a actualizar la pagina pero esta vez vine bastante >vircioso ya que puse un seccion de mIRC bastante grandes, tiene 2 >seccione

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Russell Coker
>> > For those of us who attend in multiple countries we could book plane >> > flights >> > together (hopefully get a good deal), play network Quake in the plane, etc. >> >> Then we need a sponsor with a big wallet. No. Just some debian developers who can get their own sponsorship to visit a fe

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Mirek Kwasniak
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:22:02AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: [...] > It is left like this until perl is configured and the postinst script > takes care of moving perl-5.005.dist to perl-5.005. > > Why does perl need to do all this hardlink magic and also leave us with a > binary that dpkg knows

Re: problems with the perl5 packages

1999-09-24 Thread Bjoern Brill
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 01:32:29PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > So, why are there packages with depends lines that include both perl5 and > > a particular version, like perl-5.005? > > When a package depends on a virtual package which is provided by mu

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Clint Adams
> Okay, then solve the problem of which one should actually work on the > standard port? You can't use update-alternatives if the software is Well, I would prefer that things didn't start listening for connections without asking first, but I can't imagine that that's a popular suggestion. > laun

Re: problems with the perl5 packages

1999-09-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 01:32:29PM +, Dale Scheetz wrote: > So, why are there packages with depends lines that include both perl5 and > a particular version, like perl-5.005? When a package depends on a virtual package which is provided by multiple real packages, but none of these are already

Re: BTS "feature" comments

1999-09-24 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 08:35:06AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: > > | And do what... there are going to be keys that aren't in the debian > > keyring.. > > > > Non-developpers should not be allowed to *manipulate* bugs IMO. > > What do you think? Make me PGP/GPG/whatever sign all messages I send

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Sven LUTHER wrote: > Also use of computer in planes is discouraged and prohibited during landfall > and takeoff, as it interfer with the onboard radio equipement ... I wondered about that when a helicopter pilot expressly asked if if my cell phone worked in the helicopter, so I could call ahead

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 01:46:18AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: > > So, if you're getting a Perl binary that's 0600, it's either you, apt-get, > or dpkg. More specifically it is dpkg doing the breaking, but it's perl's fault on how it is setting everything up. You will note that these

Re: taper up for adoption

1999-09-24 Thread Piotr Roszatycki
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Joey Hess wrote: > I never use taper anymore -- whould someone who does like to take the > package? It has several forwarded bug reports and isn't FHS yet, but no other > problems. Well, this package seems to be very buggy. Maybe should go to contrib dir? I use it for my dai

ups-monitor (Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of...)

1999-09-24 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Clint Adams wrote: >Perhaps identd isn't an example to be taken seriously. So let's > say that I have a POP server. >These packages don't conflict; they merely provide the same > service. There is no reason that these three packages cannot > coexist on the same system. Any namespace ov

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> For those of us who attend in multiple countries we could book plane > flights >> together (hopefully get a good deal), play network Quake in the plane

Re: ITP: geda-gsymcheck

1999-09-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 10:16:20AM -0400, Jim Ziegler wrote: > On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:29:11PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > The latest of the geda packages is geda-gsymcheck. > > Since it's a separate source package I'm announcing my ITP. > > > > Updated packages for the rest of the suite w

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Scott K. Ellis
>These packages don't conflict; they merely provide the same > service. There is no reason that these three packages cannot > coexist on the same system. Any namespace overlap can be > solved by alternatives or renaming, as such things are normally > rectified. >Debian policy should prosc

Re: Disk Performance

1999-09-24 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:18:52AM +0100, Gordon Russell wrote: > > I am currently playing around with vmware, running win98. However, the > performance stinks (I am using a beta release though). The strange thing > is though that if I do a > find / -print > /dev/null > in another window, the perf

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For those of us who attend in multiple countries we could book plane flights > together (hopefully get a good deal), play network Quake in the plane, etc. Then we need a sponsor with a big wallet.

Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate functionality

1999-09-24 Thread Clint Adams
The apparent solution to something like bug#45344 is to have all the packages providing an identd to conflict with one another. While reasonable in most cases, this has the horrible side effect of not letting the administrator have multiple identds on the system. What if I have a machine with t

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 24, 1999

1999-09-24 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 04:22:31PM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > Quoting BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Bug stamp-out list for Sep 24 00:06 (CST) > > > > Total number of release-critical bugs: 263 > > Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 12 > > > >

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 04:20:57PM +0200, Peter Makholm wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For those of us who attend in multiple countries we could book plane flights > > together (hopefully get a good deal), play network Quake in the plane, etc. > > Then we need a sponsor

Re: Release-critical Bugreport for September 24, 1999

1999-09-24 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Quoting BugScan reporter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Bug stamp-out list for Sep 24 00:06 (CST) > > Total number of release-critical bugs: 263 > Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 12 > > -- >

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Peter Makholm
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For those of us who attend in multiple countries we could book plane flights > together (hopefully get a good deal), play network Quake in the plane, etc. Then we need a sponsor with a big wallet. Arcording to userfriendly airphones cost 200$ a minute

Re: debhelper compilation on slink

1999-09-24 Thread Petr Cech
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 02:35:31PM +0200 , Colin Marquardt wrote: > Hi, > > I´m trying to compile a new debhelper on a slink system (which in > turn I want to use to build lm_sensors -- it needs dh_link which > isn´t in my slink´s debhelper 1.1.24). > > Here is what I get: > > $ fakeroot debian/

Re: debhelper compilation on slink

1999-09-24 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Colin Marquardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I´m trying to compile a new debhelper on a slink system (which in > turn I want to use to build lm_sensors -- it needs dh_link which > isn´t in my slink´s debhelper 1.1.24). You can just install debhelper 2.0.50 from potato on a slink system, al

debhelper compilation on slink

1999-09-24 Thread Colin Marquardt
Hi, I´m trying to compile a new debhelper on a slink system (which in turn I want to use to build lm_sensors -- it needs dh_link which isn´t in my slink´s debhelper 1.1.24). Here is what I get: $ fakeroot debian/rules build ./dh_clean rm -f debian/substvars debian/postinst.debhelper deb

Re: problems with the perl5 packages

1999-09-24 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 23 Sep 1999, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > This brings up another issue. Both perl-5.004 and perl-5.005 provide > > perl5, but it was my understanding that these two versions were > > "substantially" different, at least during installation I got a lon

ITP: geda-gsymcheck

1999-09-24 Thread Hamish Moffatt
The latest of the geda packages is geda-gsymcheck. Since it's a separate source package I'm announcing my ITP. Updated packages for the rest of the suite will be uploaded tonight too. hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB (ex-VK3TYD). CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
"Darren/Torin/Who Ever..." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, if you're getting a Perl binary that's 0600, it's either you, apt-get, > or dpkg. I've seen this on both my machines, and I've got a log here (which I suspect is mostly a repeat of Branden's): >(Reading database ... 8970 files and direc

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Ashley Clark
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > [1] 1013 apocalypse ~ > ls -dl /usr/bin/perl > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 23 22:02 /usr/bin/perl -> > perl-5.005 > [0] 1014 apocalypse ~ > ls -dl /usr/bin/perl-5.005 > -rw--- 1 root root 534844 Aug 19 04:29 /usr/bin/

Re: Disk Performance

1999-09-24 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:18:52AM +0100, Gordon Russell wrote: > I am currently playing around with vmware, running win98. However, the > performance stinks (I am using a beta release though). The strange thing > is though that if I do a > find / -print > /dev/null > in another window, the perform

Re: removing perl-base

1999-09-24 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Russell Coker, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: >It's been a while since the versioned Perl was introduced into potato, so I >tried removing the fake package perl-base. >Should I report bugs against bug, dpkg-perl, data-dumper, and tetex-base? Or >i

Re: i dont understand something or dpkg is simply buggy

1999-09-24 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vincent Danjean) writes: > I've a similar problem. I use Debian-ja and I've the folowing things : > > Package: 2utf > Recommends: man-db (>= 2.3.10-37) > > Package: man-db > Status: deinstall ok config-files > Version: 2.3.10-69i > Replaces

Re: Use https://db.debian.org/ [was Re: Add your location ...]

1999-09-24 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason Gunthorpe) writes: > On Wed, 22 Sep 1999, James A. Treacy wrote: > > > I should have used https://www.debian.org/ in the original mail. > > Sorry. Everyone who can (legally) use ssl should use that URL. > > Yes, this is definately the

Re: sash

1999-09-24 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) writes: > I've filed a wishlist bug against the passwd package to have sash > included. [If you've also done this, let me know the bug number > so I can merge them?] I have not done, and will not because I knew you already did

Re: removing perl-base

1999-09-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 09:36:06AM +0200, Russell Coker écrivait: > It's been a while since the versioned Perl was introduced into potato, so I > tried removing the fake package perl-base. > Should I report bugs against bug, dpkg-perl, data-dumper, and tetex-base? Or > is it OK to depend on perl-b

Re: Floppy access with noauto and booting

1999-09-24 Thread Thomas Schoepf
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Florian Lohoff wrote: > I have this in my /etc/fstab ... > /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos defaults,noauto,user0 2 Please try: /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos defaults,noauto,user0 0 ^^^ (man fstab(

Re: Disk Performance

1999-09-24 Thread Hasso Tepper
Gordon Russell wrote: > I guess hdparm -c 1 -m 16 might improve things, but why does it go faster > when I use the scsi disk?? -c 1 certanly will help but I don't know about -m 16. Just try out and will see (hdparm -t /dev/hdc). Hasso

Re: Disk Performance

1999-09-24 Thread Brian May
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >I am currently playing around with vmware, running win98. However, the >performance stinks (I am using a beta release though). The strange thing >is though that if I do a >find / -print > /dev/null >in another window, the performance IMPROVES... Just gu

Disk Performance

1999-09-24 Thread Gordon Russell
I am currently playing around with vmware, running win98. However, the performance stinks (I am using a beta release though). The strange thing is though that if I do a find / -print > /dev/null in another window, the performance IMPROVES... Now I am worried that there is a bigger question here..

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Russell Coker
> > >I'd love to go to the conference. Let's go to Redmond and infiltrate > > > Microsoft, or to the Portland area and infiltrate Intel. > > > > > > I'll hike there if I have to. I don't mind sleeping bag > > > accomodations; I'm in Portland, OR, USA. > > > > Why not have a travelling conferen

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Russell Coker writes: > On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > >I'd love to go to the conference. Let's go to Redmond and infiltrate > > Microsoft, or to the Portland area and infiltrate Intel. > > > > I'll hike there if I have to. I don't mind sleeping bag > > accomodations; I'm

Re: Conference! - around the world with Debian

1999-09-24 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: >I'd love to go to the conference. Let's go to Redmond and infiltrate > Microsoft, or to the Portland area and infiltrate Intel. > > I'll hike there if I have to. I don't mind sleeping bag > accomodations; I'm in Portland, OR, USA. Why not have a tr

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > Haven't found anyone else with this problem yet. Doogie's explanation is > that I have somehow rigged my system to cause this. The rest of us may > actually want to bother investigating. I had exactly the same problem this morning... ( /usr/bin/pe

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread David Webb
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > Haven't found anyone else with this problem yet. Doogie's explanation is > that I have somehow rigged my system to cause this. The rest of us may > actually want to bother investigating. [lots of stuff snipped] > /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst:

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Branden Robinson, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: >apt problem or perl problem? perl is shipping with a mode 600 executable; that >seems pretty weird to me but I try to keep my distance from perl. >[0] 1014 apocalypse ~ > ls -dl /usr/bin/perl-5.005

Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > * "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joey> You are under the mistaken impression that dh_dhelp is a > Joey> debhelper program. It's not. Don't use it. > > dh_installdocs uses doc-base, which in turn registers documents for > dwww and dhelp. Thous it

Re: A few changes

1999-09-24 Thread Matthew Vernon
Samuel Tardieu writes: > On 23/09, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > | I see no point in checking signatures if you don't also reject unsigned > | messages. > > For me, a message with no signature is a message with a bad signature :) This is all very well, except for those of us who email from work,

Floppy access with noauto and booting

1999-09-24 Thread Florian Lohoff
Hi, does anyone see the same I have this in my /etc/fstab ... /dev/fd0/floppy msdos defaults,noauto,user0 2 Although this is "noauto" and the OS should NOT access this device until told so i see the following on bootup while starting the fsck ... inserting floppy driver

Re: is it time for /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-24 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Joey Hess wrote: > > I noticed that more and more packages move their doc files to > > /usr/share/doc, > > leaving all kinds of problems with the old one, e.g. empty directories, > > broken links, directories with only one file, ... > > File bug reports for all of these things. Any packages e

removing perl-base

1999-09-24 Thread Russell Coker
It's been a while since the versioned Perl was introduced into potato, so I tried removing the fake package perl-base. Should I report bugs against bug, dpkg-perl, data-dumper, and tetex-base? Or is it OK to depend on perl-base? **_ Req base perl-baseFake package assuring that one of the

Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-24 Thread Martin Bialasinski
* "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Joey> You are under the mistaken impression that dh_dhelp is a Joey> debhelper program. It's not. Don't use it. dh_installdocs uses doc-base, which in turn registers documents for dwww and dhelp. Thous it is a superset and should be used, no? Ci

Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-24 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:46:12 -0700 > Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > > Some debhelper scripts automatically generate appropriate > > postinst/prerm etc. with "#DEBHELPER#" setting when one run > > dh_installdeb. > > You ar

Release-critical Bugreport for September 24, 1999

1999-09-24 Thread Matthias Klose
BugScan reporter writes: > Bug stamp-out list for Sep 24 00:06 (CST) > > Total number of release-critical bugs: 263 > Number that will disappear after removing packages marked [REMOVE]: 12 > > Package: libg++272-dev (main) > Maintainer: joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 42443 libg+

Re: possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Sep 24, Branden Robinson wrote: > [...later...] > > [1] 1013 apocalypse ~ > ls -dl /usr/bin/perl > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 23 22:02 /usr/bin/perl -> > perl-5.005 > [0] 1014 apocalypse ~ > ls -dl /usr/bin/perl-5.005 > -rw--- 1 root root 534844 Aug 19 04:29

Re: is it time for /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > I noticed that more and more packages move their doc files to /usr/share/doc, > leaving all kinds of problems with the old one, e.g. empty directories, > broken links, directories with only one file, ... File bug reports for all of these things. Any packages exhib

is it time for /usr/share/doc?

1999-09-24 Thread Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler
Hi, I noticed that more and more packages move their doc files to /usr/share/doc, leaving all kinds of problems with the old one, e.g. empty directories, broken links, directories with only one file, ... Did I miss the final say on this? Where was it announced? And should I do this for my pa

possible problem with new perl, libc6 on Sep 23rd

1999-09-24 Thread Branden Robinson
Haven't found anyone else with this problem yet. Doogie's explanation is that I have somehow rigged my system to cause this. The rest of us may actually want to bother investigating. apt problem or perl problem? perl is shipping with a mode 600 executable; that seems pretty weird to me but I tr

Re: sash

1999-09-24 Thread Ruud de Rooij
Michael Neuffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990923 16:15]: > > On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote: > > > Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to > > > match root's password whenever it was changed? Or am I

Re: sash

1999-09-24 Thread Michael Neuffer
* Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990923 16:15]: > On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote: > > Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to > > match root's password whenever it was changed? Or am I oversimplifying > > things? > > I don't have enough

Re: I need a job.

1999-09-24 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 03:00:52PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > > I need an entry level systems admin or programmer assistant job to > pay for night school so I can get a degree. I am willing to > relocate for the right job. Man, join the club! Being a student is expensive. -- Joseph C

Re: crypt(3) utilities

1999-09-24 Thread Johnie Ingram
"Itai" == Itai Zukerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Itai> Are there other packages that similarly provide this tiny Itai> utility? Would this merit my writing a crypt package that other Itai> packages can suggest? Yes ircd does too (upstream at least), and we also have a makepasswd.deb that doe

crypt(3) utilities

1999-09-24 Thread Itai Zukerman
A package I've been looking at, icecast(-server), provides a utility mkpasswd. This utility just takes a password and salt and returns the result of crypt(3). I notice that the whois package provides exactly the same functionality in a utility called cryptpw. Are there other packages that simila

Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-24 Thread Joey Hess
Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > Some debhelper scripts automatically generate appropriate > postinst/prerm etc. with "#DEBHELPER#" setting when one run > dh_installdeb. You are under the mistaken impression that dh_dhelp is a debhelper program. It's not. Don't use it. > Is there any reason of this beha

strange behavior of dh_dhelp

1999-09-24 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hello all, Some debhelper scripts automatically generate appropriate postinst/prerm etc. with "#DEBHELPER#" setting when one run dh_installdeb. But dh_dhelp seems to be outside of this mechanism and one should put dh_dhelp after dh_installdeb otherwise postinst/prerm created by dh_dhelp seems t

Re: Use https://db.debian.org/ [was Re: Add your location ...]

1999-09-24 Thread Randolph Chung
> Apropos redesign: the images on the secure version point to a > non-secure URL and are therefore not rendered. We are looking into this and will try to get it fixed in the next 24 hours. > Paul> Moreover, I tried updating my info on the non-secure page, but > Paul> my postcode is STILL not get

Re: BTS "feature" comments

1999-09-24 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Darren Benham wrote: > - Forwarded message from Samuel Tardieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > | And do what... there are going to be keys that aren't in the debian > keyring.. The reason I mentioned this on a bugreport was that it would be very easy to check if a signature is correct

Re: apt-get source fails for some packages

1999-09-24 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
From: Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: apt-get source fails for some packages Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 12:03:32 +0200 > On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 10:43:01AM +0900, Atsuhito Kohda wrote: > > "dpkg-source: error: Expected ^@@ in line 4569 of diff" > > > > "\ No newline at end of file" > >