On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 09:47:33AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> that extra 30k (if it is actually available on the rescue disk) would be
> better used either as part of the space needed by elvis-tiny (**) or by
I still don't understand the sentiment that people can only understand
vi. Are other e
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:18:45PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:34:58PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > > ae barely even WORKS! It's crap in "vi mode", it's crap in every other
> > > mode, it's just crap! => I'd have to say that _PICO_ is a more
> > > functional ed
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:56:32PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> > "BenC" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> BenC> This is just a little reminder concerning PAMification of
> BenC> potato. I want to urge all maintainers who's programs do any
> BenC> sort of authentication or account
Joey Hess wrote:
> Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Two seperate functions. Why are we trying to cram two seperate
> > functions
> > into one?
>
> Good question. If we're getting very cramped (I'm sure we are :-), it might
> be time to think about splitting the two.
>From what I've been seeing, it doe
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:51:48AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> OK, I haven't read all of this thread, but I've read enough to know that
> most of what I haven't read is either reguarding a replacement editor or
> of no value to me ;-)
>
> First of all, I only have one complaint, and it goes to Jo
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:34:58PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > ae barely even WORKS! It's crap in "vi mode", it's crap in every other
> > mode, it's just crap! => I'd have to say that _PICO_ is a more
> > functional editor than ae, at least it works.
>
> Isn't PICO non-free? (similar to
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:24:59AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Would you say then that paying for a big booth is NOT worth a lot of
> > money but paying for a big enough stack of CDs that people who want them
> > can have them is?
>
> Between linux central and cheap bytes the debian booths
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is it currently possible to access the unstable non-US section with
> apt-get? Or is the reorganisation not finished? Currently neither of
> the following lines work:
>
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US
> deb http://non-us.de
> "Daryl" == Daryl Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Daryl> i would like to install debian on a dell poweredge 4300 with a
Daryl> PERC/2 SC raid scsi controller from AMI. as far as i know there
Daryl> is no support during a debian installation for this card.
Daryl> there is support for this
> "BenC" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
BenC> This is just a little reminder concerning PAMification of
BenC> potato. I want to urge all maintainers who's programs do any
BenC> sort of authentication or account management to seek PAM patches
BenC> (or just enabling PAM if the progr
> "phil" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
phil> Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Maybe "vi" on the boot disks should simply say "vi didn't fit on
>> the bootdisk, so please use the self explaining 'ae' which will be
>> started right now" and forget about the bothersome vi
Branden Robinson wrote:
> > > Alternatively, if egcs 2.95 is out and packaged before I release -5
> > > (probably next week), that may have the fix.
> > Not likely. GCC 2.95 (formerly EGCS 1.2) just made a stable branch and
> > is complete code freeze. The first of July is the target release date
>
> "joseph" == Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
joseph> It didn't work right console, that was my issue. It may work
joseph> better now, but the thing is still messy and the editor
joseph> doesn't allow you to do basic editor functions.
How can you sit there, with your bare face han
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On 21 May 1999, John Goerzen wrote:
>
> > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs
> > > twice a week to every developer.
> >
> > I don't get such a report.
>
> Prob
Hello,
It's me again, this time reporting on Friday and Saturday at
LinuxExpo.
Pictures from Thursday and Friday (including the LinuxBowl with Maddog
Hall) are online now, at:
http://www.debian.org/~jgoerzen/
I'll be putting the photos from today (Saturday) up as time permits.
Here are the
Well put, Dale. I think you have done the correct thing here. If the
vi emulation is not sufficiently complete to work as expected of vi,
and esp. if it's really bad, remove it.
--
John Goerzen Linux, Unix consulting & programming [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
Developer, Debian GNU/Linux (Free powe
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Someone wishing to have a reminder of bug status may choose to subscribe
> to a report.
>
> Closing bugs just because you can't fix them is wrong.
I *NEVER* said that one ought to do that, and AFAIK, nobody else did
either.
--
John Goerzen Linux, U
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> John> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> No one needs to take on that job, as the BTS already reports all open bugs
> >> twice a week to every developer.
>
> John> I don't get such a report.
>
> Because, unlike the nag rep
Followups to [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of this talk about the
Debian boot system is IMHO just "debating society" stuff. I have seen
very few well thought-out, practical suggestions in this thread.
> "Joey" == Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Joey> Steve Lamb wrote:
>> Two seperate functio
Please -- all replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "Eduardo" == E O Fredrik Liljegren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Eduardo> On a computer without CD-ROM one has to start by
Eduardo> disk, but that's ok.
Do you mean floppy, or the hard-disk option?
Eduardo> Then you get the option of NFS, but not
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:07:02PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> > On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:21:26PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> > >
> > > Md5sum proposal
> > > * Under discussion.
> > > * Proposed on 17 May 1999 by Piotr Roszatycki; seconded by Peter S
> > > Galbr
> "Philip" == Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Philip> How about creating a new section ``profiles'' for them, so
Philip> that they are all grouped together in dselect ?
I think it's a little too early for new sections. The boot-floppies
team, in particular, wanted to see someone imp
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Ron wrote:
> But what then was Ben's angle when he said the hitch with source deps
> was autodetecting them? Is this for the autobuilders for different ports,
> or concern about having non-programmer newbie developers botching them up?
The hitch is that a lot of programs req
William Ono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> tuXeyes is a X toy that works like xeyes. It is licensed under the GPL
> but uses Qt, so it will go into contrib.
If it is under the GPL, and is dependent upon Qt, then it has an
invalid license, and cannot be distributed. As such it will not be
allowe
William Ono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> tuXeyes is a X toy that works like xeyes. It is licensed under the GPL
> but uses Qt, so it will go into contrib.
Um, no, if it's licensed under the GPL, but links to Qt, then it
suffers under the same self-cancelling license issues that KDE does.
And we
> "Marek" == Marek Habersack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Marek> * Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said:
>> On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 03:01:12PM -0700, Aaron Van
>> Couwenberghe wrote:
>> > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured
>> > programming that I can't understand ho
Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:21:26PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> >
> > Md5sum proposal
> > * Under discussion.
> > * Proposed on 17 May 1999 by Piotr Roszatycki; seconded by Peter S
> > Galbraith, Brock Rozen and Marcus Brinkmann.
> > * Require a md5ums file be
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:21:02PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michael Stone wrote:
> > I disagree: I think it's still more complicated than it needs to be.
>
> Complicated?
>
> > E.g., the big block of commands at the upper left is a bit too
> > cluttered.
>
> Upper left?
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:21:26PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> Md5sum proposal
> * Under discussion.
> * Proposed on 17 May 1999 by Piotr Roszatycki; seconded by Peter S
> Galbraith, Brock Rozen and Marcus Brinkmann.
> * Require a md5ums file be present in all packages.
I did *NOT*
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 12:17:14 -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
>The reason it has this problem is because it uses its own special terminal
>data files (/etc/joe/terminfo) instead of the standard ones.
Are you sure about that? I moved them into a completel
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 21:21:05 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
>I'm running it right now. It still garbles the text. Tried everything...
Odd. I just don't recall problems with Telemate/Joe. Or Telix. Or
Terminate. I was big on T terminals, can you te
Josip Rodin wrote:
> It is THE worst editor to use when you have a terminal with any kind
> of illness (and that is my most common situation, for example, I'm typing
> this now through Telemate for DOS, and no kind of $TERM can make joe work
> without garbling the text).
The reason it has this pro
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:07:59PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> >That's great news!
>
> Eh, until I see a new version from JA I'm not holding my breath. :)
Of course... :(
> >It is THE worst editor to use when you have a terminal with any kind
> >of illness (and that is my most common situati
Steve Lamb wrote:
> Two seperate functions. Why are we trying to cram two seperate functions
> into one?
Good question. If we're getting very cramped (I'm sure we are :-), it might
be time to think about splitting the two. I can see one very big advantage
to using the same disk for two thing
I think we should just get rid of the `vi' link and `vi' emulation in
ae, stick to the default setup, and have that catchall script just
print a message saying to use `ae' rather than `vi' while using the
rescue/setup disks.
Perhaps a larger ramdisk image could be built and provided for resc
Joseph Carter wrote:
> Package: jed
> Depends: libc6, libgpmg1 (>= 1.14-3), libncurses4, slang1 (<< 1.3),
> slang1 (>> 1.2.2-0), jed-common
> [why the HELL does this thing need both ncurses and slang?]
Because gpm uses ncurses and it's linked to gpm. This can trivially be
whittled down to:
Depend
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 21:07:21 +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
>That's great news!
Eh, until I see a new version from JA I'm not holding my breath. :)
>It is THE worst editor to use when you have a terminal with any kind
>of illness (and that is my mos
Joseph Carter wrote:
> Okay, let me offer this a bit here... Do the rescue floppies currently
> use libncurses at all? I think they don't. Okay, now then:
Slang does have minimal ncurses support, you can link ncurses apps against
slang using a compatability header and it often works ok.
--
se
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:23:54AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> joe is not discontinued upstream. Joe Allen just hasn't worked on it in
> 3+ years as he worked on other things. Recent posts from him on comp.editors
> suggests that he is going to start working on joe again.
That's great news!
>
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 17:34:58 +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>joe is discontinued upstream IIRC, and doesn't work quite right on the Hurd.
>Obviously, it's termcap/ncurses interface is slightly broken. I have not
>investigated it further yet, because a
Since I am interesting in having all the major free SGML stuff
included into potato, I intend to package docbook-xml from Norm Walsh
(which also includes the simplified docbook-xml DTD).
*However*, I am extremely busy as well. If someone else would step
forward to package these materials, I'd be
If anyone would like to take the 'addressbook' package from me, I
would appreciate it. I don't really have the time and tcl/tk
knownledge to maintain this package properly. There are a few
outstanding bugs which are pretty minor; the big bug is to break up
the package into the command-line and g
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 03:31:37 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root23564 Apr 17 10:48 /bin/ae*
>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root49044 Nov 1 1998 /usr/bin/ee*
>-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root65916 Oct 29 1998 /usr
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 03:02:16 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
>ee is more functional than pico and the package version is 85k, with all
>the cruft you'd kill from a floppy. It's almost twice the size of ae,
>but then joe is ten times the size.
Uh, jo
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 19:49:11 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>no, it's more than just a boot disk.
>it's a rescue disk.
Two seperate functions. Why are we trying to cram two seperate functions
into one?
>some version of vi is essential on a rescue
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:33:48PM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> I am specifically looking for the db2rtf conversion filter, but there seem
> to be a whole collection of such converters that are no where to be found
> in Debian. (at least not in the slink contents file)
In potato there's "cygnus-st
I am specifically looking for the db2rtf conversion filter, but there seem
to be a whole collection of such converters that are no where to be found
in Debian. (at least not in the slink contents file)
I did a hotbot search, and came up with references, including the a copy
of the make file that I
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:38:21AM +0930, Ron wrote:
> > as well as a way to auto-detect these dependancies
>
> We don't autodetect binary dependencies either (apart from the
> shared library dependencies, for which it is easy). Why should
> we do that for source dependencies? I can tell you o
On Sat, 22 May 1999, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > some version of vi is essential on a rescue disk, regardless of what some
> > windows using loudmouth happens to think (and no, i'm not referring to
> > you here joseph).
>
> That's just
OK, I haven't read all of this thread, but I've read enough to know that
most of what I haven't read is either reguarding a replacement editor or
of no value to me ;-)
First of all, I only have one complaint, and it goes to Joseph Carter's
snide remarkes about the non-functional nature of ae in ge
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 10:31:10AM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> > And, by all means, put ED on the base disks.
>
> IMO: echo, sed, cat and joe
You are joking, I was serious. ed is an editor, what you named are powerful
unix tools. An experienced user can use ed instead ae, if we only have
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 02:57:26PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
>
> ae barely even WORKS! It's crap in "vi mode", it's crap in every other
> mode, it's just crap! => I'd have to say that _PICO_ is a more
> functional editor than ae, at least it works.
Isn't PICO non-free? (similar to pine). Sla
>
>
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> On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 09:07:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > (I was at LinuxWorld and I must say it was cool! Worth going, and even
> > > worth the financial nightmare it created in my life that is just now
>
I made the following changes today:
* Removed old files from experimental:
egcc-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
libg++2.8.2-dev-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
gpc-doc-ss_2.92.27-1_all.deb
libg++2.8.2-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
gpc-ss_2.92.27-1_i386.deb
These were no longer generated by the eg
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On a Linux machine the EtherLink III card will not function properly when
> configured with isapnp, and must be taken out of pnp mode using
> 3c5x9setup. It seems only logical to have the tool for doing this included
> with the other isapnp tools.
This w
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 11:23:36AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:08:00AM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote:
> > gtk-doc is the upstream name, but a more distinct name may be
> > preferred to distinguish it from gtk+-docs, libgtk1.2-doc, gnome-docu,
> > gnome-dev-info... Perhaps "gt
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:09:40AM -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron) writes:
> > I tend to use make-kpkg if I'm building a kernel to use on a different
> > machine than the one I'm building it on, but otherwise I usually dont.
> > Kernel packages are handy if you wish to intstall
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> some version of vi is essential on a rescue disk, regardless of what some
> windows using loudmouth happens to think (and no, i'm not referring to
> you here joseph).
That's just silly. If someone can figure out vi, they really ought
On Sat, 22 May, 1999, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:16:26AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote:
> > > Joe might also be a good option because of its wordstar-esque keys.
> >
> > I HATE wordstar key binds, so does everybody else.
> ~~
>
Hi,
recently I have been fouled by some very nasty incidents which made me
think that I have made something wrong with our boot floppies.
Here is the story.
I've created German boot-floppies, but only regular ones, no tecra
images. I had to create a slink cd set for a German distributor
w
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:17:09PM -0700, Tom Lear wrote:
> Is it just me or is netscape crashing more recently? Every machine that I
> have following unstable is having problems with netscape crashing, but the
> machines following stable work fine.
I recently upgraded to unstable completely from
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 05:21:02PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:23:22PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> > I really liked The Semware Editor Pro, which I picked up with a Sysop
> > Discount when I wanted to buy QEdit. I was impressed with it. The
> > closest I can get is
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 07:49:11PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> > A simple script that tells them to use ee would be fine I think. They'd
> > live. Gods, it's just a flippin' boot disk for crying out loud!
>
> no, it's more than just a boot disk.
>
> it's a rescue disk.
>
> some version of
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 01:58:45AM -0500, Rob Browning wrote:
> > 21. Filenames: source files should have .cpp extension.
>
> .cc is much more common (I think) in Linux, but I haven't checked.
Make understands .cc but not .cpp by default. I think the Corel
rule comes from the converse situation:
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:16:26AM +0100, Edward Betts wrote:
> > Joe might also be a good option because of its wordstar-esque keys.
>
> I HATE wordstar key binds, so does everybody else.
~~
This part of the sentence is completely absurd.
--
Hi.
I'd like to get advice on this problem.
I packaged stunnel version 2.1 (a ssl tunnel program).
The new version stunnel 3.x has totally different command line
options.
If I upload a new version with package name stunnel people
that use the old package will find themselves in trouble.
What should
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 10:06:23AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > ae barely even WORKS!
> > it's crap in every other mode, it's just crap! =>
> > _PICO_ is a more functional editor than ae, at least it works.
> > toss ae, and get something that functions.
>
> >From what I've seen, ae functions per
My appologies for following up to my own post. Although I checked the
WNPP [Work-Needing and Prospective Packages] and the debian-devel archives
before posting, I was informed by the upstream maintainer that an
intent-to-package has already gone out for this package. I checked the
archives more c
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 10:36:39AM +0200, Anders Arnholm wrote:
> > And neither are very friendly to new users. ae doesn't work like you'd
>
> Editing configfiles isn't friendly to new users, even if they get a "simple"
> editor.
So why make it any worse than it has to be?
--
Joseph Carter <[E
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:20:12PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:51:03PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Then we should ditch the vi idea altogether. Why? Sure, *some*
> > experienced people will expect it. Here's one experienced person who
> > doesn't, however. What I *
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:08:00AM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote:
> gtk-doc is the upstream name, but a more distinct name may be
> preferred to distinguish it from gtk+-docs, libgtk1.2-doc, gnome-docu,
> gnome-dev-info... Perhaps "gtk-doc-tools" ? Maybe keep the source
> called gtk-doc and call the bi
On Fri, 21 May, 1999, Joseph Carter wrote:
> > I HATE wordstar key binds, so does everybody else. Try fte or an editor like
> > it for the boot disks.
>
> I don't have wordstar keybindings. In fact joe comes with half a dozen
> different sets of keybindings. So we pick one or write our own custo
Hi folks,
open.hands.com is being moved next week (which means it will be off the air
for a few hours, and will have a new IP address afterwards).
This machine hosts (among other things):
www.uk.debian.org
ftp.uk.debian.org
cdimage.debian.org
and is a DNS server for debian and a bunch of
On Fri, 21 May, 1999, Steve Lamb wrote:
> On Sat, 22 May 1999 00:16:26 +0100, Edward Betts wrote:
>
> I don't dislike it, neither do quite a few people I know so your "so does
> everybody else" statement is false. Also, the recent "OS sucks/rules" meter
> applied to editors places joe squarel
> And, by all means, put ED on the base disks.
IMO: echo, sed, cat and joe
andreas
(i'm a vim user and can agree with my emacs friends: everyone of us can live
with joe)
>>>"Steve Lamb" wrote:
> >Hmm, I don't know about this. An inexperienced user is unlikely to know how
> >to recover their system anyway, so why bother putting an editor there that
> >they can use by themselves?
>
> Who said recovery? We're talking the boot disks, system installation.
Last t
I'm not yet a developer, but should be one soon. If anyone needs this
package to be created very quickly, please let me know and I would be
happy to give it away.
tuXeyes is a X toy that works like xeyes. It is licensed under the GPL
but uses Qt, so it will go into contrib. The author writes i
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:38:21AM +0930, Ron wrote:
> as well as a way to auto-detect these dependancies
We don't autodetect binary dependencies either (apart from the
shared library dependencies, for which it is easy). Why should
we do that for source dependencies? I can tell you offhand *with
>>>Joseph Carter wrote:
> And neither are very friendly to new users. ae doesn't work like you'd
Editing configfiles isn't friendly to new users, even if they get a "simple"
editor.
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 03:09:43AM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> e.g. if i hear of a cool idea for a new and/or improved gadget, i
> can build one myself and use it whenever i like.
>
> In the US, you can be sued for patent infringement for doing that. I
> am not certain that it is so
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 02:57:26PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> ae barely even WORKS!
> it's crap in every other mode, it's just crap! =>
> _PICO_ is a more functional editor than ae, at least it works.
> toss ae, and get something that functions.
>From what I've seen, ae functions perfectly. It
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 07:40:04PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
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> On Sat, 22 May 1999 12:02:02 +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> >On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 06:01:26PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> >
> >> vi - hard to use, but small.
>
> >correction: h
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 11:23:22PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> I really liked The Semware Editor Pro, which I picked up with a Sysop
> Discount when I wanted to buy QEdit. I was impressed with it. The
> closest I can get is a customized joe with a very very hacked config
> file. And even it do
e.g. if i hear of a cool idea for a new and/or improved gadget, i
can build one myself and use it whenever i like.
In the US, you can be sued for patent infringement for doing that. I
am not certain that it is so in all countries. Do you know with
certainty that some countries make an e
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Amy Fong) writes:
> Query, is there actually a coding style guideline for debian stuph?
There's not any formal spec since there are so many different
languages involved. For example, lisp/elisp/scheme programmers would
lynch you if you tried to make them use function names lik
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On 21 May 1999 23:34:24 -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
>Again, ae is *half* the size of ee, and ee doesn't even offer the
>option of vi emulation. If we can't fix some of the more noticable
>problems of ae, and *still* come in smaller than ee, there's so
"Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If ee does this (I dunno, but my friend swears by it), then so be it,
> install it, move on.
Again, ae is *half* the size of ee, and ee doesn't even offer the
option of vi emulation. If we can't fix some of the more noticable
problems of ae, and *st
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On Fri, 21 May 1999 23:20:12 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
>A simple script that tells them to use ee would be fine I think. They'd
>live. Gods, it's just a flippin' boot disk for crying out loud! They
>WILL SURVIVE. I'd say just leave ae, except th
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 04:08:18PM +1000, Shane King wrote:
> > It is the very fact that experienced users are, well, experienced that
> > they should be excluded from consideration.
>
> Hmm, I don't know about this. An inexperienced user is unlikely to know how
> to recover their system anyw
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:51:03PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> >I think ee is a good choice, I'm not sure it's the right choice, I'm
> >not sure there is a right choice. If we put a vi on, we get a
> >(probably deserved) reputation for newbie hostility. If we don't, we
> >alienate all the experien
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On Sat, 22 May 1999 16:08:18 +1000, Shane King wrote:
>Hmm, I don't know about this. An inexperienced user is unlikely to know how
>to recover their system anyway, so why bother putting an editor there that
>they can use by themselves?
Who said r
On Sat, May 22, 1999 at 12:08:00AM +0100, Steve Haslam wrote:
> Maybe keep the source called gtk-doc and call the binary gtk-doc-tools...
> Suggestions welcome.
That sounds good to me, so there's one vote in favor of it.
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On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 03:11:28PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> some happy fonts for X, includes a couple of BIG fonts (bigger than
> 10x20) which are useful to me in resolutions higher than 800x600. GPL.
While my remarks in reply to the person who proposed some standardization
of naming of font
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 05:40:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote:
> Branden Robinson wrote:
> > There is apparently an egcs optimization bug that miscompiles a few object
> > files that are included in the X libraries.
> Could you just compile those object files with optimization off?
Yes, that is t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron) writes:
> I tend to use make-kpkg if I'm building a kernel to use on a different
> machine than the one I'm building it on, but otherwise I usually dont.
> Kernel packages are handy if you wish to intstall the same kernel image
> on multiple machines, but since all my machi
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 10:51:03PM -0700, Steve Lamb did spake thusly:
> It is the very fact that experienced users are, well, experienced that
> they should be excluded from consideration.
Hmm, I don't know about this. An inexperienced user is unlikely to know how
to recover their system any
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On 21 May 1999 22:38:14 -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
>I think ee is a good choice, I'm not sure it's the right choice, I'm
>not sure there is a right choice. If we put a vi on, we get a
>(probably deserved) reputation for newbie hostility. If we don't
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> All that's necessary for a functional jed. Not that it matters since
> ee is clearly the right choice.
I think ee is a good choice, I'm not sure it's the right choice, I'm
not sure there is a right choice. If we put a vi on, we get a
(probably deserved) re
Patrick Bertholon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1) With linux Posix Thread, when a thread receive a signal (for
> example a segmentation fault), do the other thread of the same program
> automatically receive the same signal, or there is an attribute to
> activate ?
>
> 2) Is there a
"Steve Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> There is more to unix editors than those two, deal with it, move on.
There is? :>
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