And thus spake Daniel James Patterson, on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 09:30:31AM +1000:
> On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:26:00AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> >
> > Besides, any advantage in a nice OO design is lost by implementing it in
> > C++!
> >
>
> There is no need to do it in C++. My whole point
On Thu, 20 May 1999, Lawrence Walton wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 07:00:04PM -0400, Sergey V Kovalyov wrote:
> > After today's potato update my computer no longer knows about localhost.
> > Is this a known bug in some package or do I just need to reconfigure
> > something ?
> > Anyone else ha
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 08:26:00AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
>
> Besides, any advantage in a nice OO design is lost by implementing it in C++!
>
There is no need to do it in C++. My whole point is that I think an OO
methodology would work well in this case simply due to the maintainability
f
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 04:44:08AM -0700, Craig Brozefsky wrote:
> "Tyger Sunshine-Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > If we don't, what is the point of pouring so much work into making
> > such a useful and _flexible_ distribution?
>
> Well, everyone has their own answer to that, but I'm sati
Well, if we paid, maybe we could get space in a somewhat more populated area of
the show, hence more publicity. If we can get around 3000 SETS of CDs(maybe
potato if it's out by the next LinuxWorld), and make a display of the release,
then it would definately help.
After today's potato update my computer no longer knows about localhost.
Is this a known bug in some package or do I just need to reconfigure
something ?
Anyone else has similar problem ?
Sergey.
Hi all,
Well, I wan't to apologize to all who feel offended with my views and
ideas (whether they worth anything or nothing at all). I seems that I am
simply not capable of taking part in public discussions or I lack fluency in
English to express myself in a clear way.
Either way, I just wa
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:17:09PM -0700, Tom Lear wrote:
> Is it just me or is netscape crashing more recently? Every machine that I
> have following unstable is having problems with netscape crashing, but the
> machines following stable work fine.
There is apparently an egcs optimization bug th
*Marek Habersack wrote:
> Yes, yes. But you won't be able to use perl with C++ libraries.
If you use the C interface to the C++ libraries, and reimplement OO
in perl, yes you can. And the C++ wrapping has improved to the point that
people are using it directly for some projects.
--
John L
*Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:03:46AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
>
> > 3. Most programmers would write code in C
>
> Yeah, uh. But that's the point isn't it?
>
> The current dpkg is written in C. How many programmers are working on it?
I've often wondered abou
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:09:34PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> Now you've proven it. You're a fanatic. And you offend people. Thanks.
there's no excuse for personal attacks. if you have a point to make,
then make it but don't stoop to ad hominem attacks.
i think i'll just ignore the rest of t
* Branden Robinson said:
> > several lines? If so, then please go back AND READ IT. Only then you have a
> > right to jump upon me like that. Before you joined the discussion, we were
> > DISCUSSING matters, now we're FIGHTING and flaming each other. Thank you.
>
> What is there to discuss with y
*Joseph Carter wrote:
> First question: If some major cash was donated to Debian, what would we
> do with it? Seriously, do we have a purpose for it, or would we just
> re-donate it to other projects? Sure that might look good for a story on
> Slashdot, but I'm more interested in making headline
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:47:22AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
> This was not supposed to go out until Wichert got back and some details
> were settled, but with all the talk about redoing dpkg, I felt it necessary
> so that there weren't any duplication projects started and things didn't get
> compl
*Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I can't speak for others, but *I* do it cause it pleases my
> muse. Getting Debian out to the great unwashed masses rouses little
> but mild curiosity in me, and certainly not eough to warrant the
> amount of effort I put into my packages.
In general,
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 10:07:09PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> I have just one question to you - have you read the ENTIRE thread??? Or just
> several lines? If so, then please go back AND READ IT. Only then you have a
> right to jump upon me like that. Before you joined the discussion, we were
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:45:09PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:27:32AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> > C++ may be OO, but it's not very good OOand it tends to compile
> > into code which is both bloated and slow.
> >
> > dpkg is already far too slow on old hard
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:02:00PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I don't see anything in the Debian packaging system which fits
> > OO very well at all. We have just one type of package; there are no
> > special sub-types, for example.
>
> Then you're
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:27:10PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:14:26PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> > How about "it's complete overkill"?
>
> I don't think so. Yes you can write maintainable code with plain C,
> but with the number of developers moving in a
Hello,
I plan to package the native version of mig, the Mach Interface Generator.
It will be hurd-i386 only. Not that it can't be compiled and used for other
arhces, too, but it will be completely useless to them. We don't want
unnecessary bloat, do we?
There is a cross mig for i386 there, it i
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:53:21PM -0700, David Bristel wrote:
> I'd like to think we could use it to pay or help pay for booths to the trade
> shows. LinuxWorld, for those who were there was evidence that a small booth
> just isn't big enough for all the Debian folks who want to help out, and for
>> "TL" == Tom Lear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
TL> Is it just me or is netscape crashing more recently? Every
TL> machine that I have following unstable is having problems with
TL> netscape crashing, but the machines following stable work fine.
No, you are not the only one. Same thing here. Th
>> "JM" == James Mastros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JM> libgtop0 should be removed from the archive; it is obselete and
JM> replaced by libgtop1. gnome-utils 0.99.3-1 depends on it -- but
JM> gnome-utils 0.99.3-1 is also obselete, but I cannot find a
JM> replacement, even though I have the repl
Think about it though, if Debian were the OS of choice, those who are involved
now would be considered the regional gurus, and that means we get paid more by
companies who want the most experienced and knowledgeable people. Then we WOULD
have the masses groveling.
I'd like to think we could use it to pay or help pay for booths to the trade
shows. LinuxWorld, for those who were there was evidence that a small booth
just isn't big enough for all the Debian folks who want to help out, and for all
the cool stuff that people brought down. Also, Debian CD's are
>> "SC" == Sean Chuplis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
SC> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install libgtop0
libgtop0 is no longer. libgtop1 is the successor, so libgtop0 should
be removed from the distribution.
Note that there is only the binary left in the distribution. The
source, libgtop, only bui
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 01:46:57AM -0400, Phillip R. Jaenke wrote:
> If VAR's willing to toss a drive or even a system my way, or even a
> couple, at absolutely *no* charge, I will build them debian images they
> can use as masters for building Debian machines. Hell, I'll pay shipping
> back to the
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> reassign 38055 wmss
Bug#38055: general: Wmss depends on the unavailable package libwraster1.
Bug reassigned from package `general' to `wmss'.
> reassign 38057 libgtop0
Bug#38057: general: libgtop0: Depends: libglib1.1.13 (>= 1.1.13-1) but it is
not
On Thu, 20 May 1999, Joel Klecker wrote:
> At 18:10 +0100 1999-05-20, Adrian Bridgett wrote:
> >On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 06:47:28AM -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> >>
> >> Brian> Nag also sends emails regarding old bugs on your packages. I
> >> never
> >> Brian> subscribed to that. :p
> >>
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 04:47:13PM -0400, Sean Chuplis wrote:
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libgtop0: Depends: libglib1.1.13 (>= 1.1.13-1) but it is not
> installable
libgtop0 should be removed from the archive; it is obselete and replaced by
libgtop1. gnome-util
Is it just me or is netscape crashing more recently? Every machine that I
have following unstable is having problems with netscape crashing, but the
machines following stable work fine.
- Tom
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On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into
> a networkable server for polymorphic package objects! G'wan, I dare
> ya! :-)
Wowch! Nothing against CORBA, I love it, but if I think about the overhead.
I rec
[sorry martin, I forgot to address this to the list, only to you]
> "Martin" == Martin Bialasinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> "MM" == Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MM> xadmin
Martin> Was discontinued because of serious bugs IIRC.
It did not conform to the Debia
Package: general
Version: N/A
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install libgtop0
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some req
Package: general
Version: N/A
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# apt-get install wmss
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some require
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I can't speak for others, but *I* do it cause it pleases my
> muse. Getting Debian out to the great unwashed masses rouses little
> but mild curiosity in me, and certainly not eough to warrant the
> amount of effort I put into my packages.
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > When the upload queue software is packaged I'll evaluate installing it on
> > a couple machines.
>
> Did someone volenteer? I forget..
Ah, I think that was me.
I forgot too. Oops. :-)
I should be able to sort it out on Saturday.
Cheers, Phil.
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:09:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> [snip]
> > > We really should have a policy for things like this. How about adding
> > > another Provides: to kernel images (built by the excellent make-kpkg):
> > Because too many peopl
Hello List,
I am sorry that I bored you with my silly contribution to the wrong thread.
I should have taken this to private much earlier, or better not started it
at all.
This is what you get when you are having a permanent net connection and
can respond (too fast). I have to learn that (I am in
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:55:59PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> I'm sorry, but you seem to be arrogant here. You cut the DISCUSSION with
> statements like this instead of saying anything reasonable.
I said that I don't agree with you, and that I think your arguments against
C++ are invalid. I e
* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> > dpkg is already far too slow on old hardware...hell, it's too slow on
> > a P200 with 200MB of RAM, now that the status and available files have
> > over 3300 packages detailed in them.
>
> Yeah, it's slow, and it's written in C.
Linux is slow. It's written in C. Yeah
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About more, Please see
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This page is written in English.
Liecens:
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* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> > > Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. But the decisions are made by
> > > people who to do the work.
> > Not in this case. This is not their graduate project, nor an experiment.
> > It's a package which the entire Debian distribution relies on
>
> You're wron
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:25:17PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote:
> > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 02:50:38AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > > I think an interesting approach would be to use CORBA. Make dpkg into
> > > a networkable server for polymo
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 07:09:28AM -0700, Tyger Sunshine-Hill wrote:
> >RH isn't "competition" to debian except in the most positive sense of
> >friendly rivalry. We have different aims, different goals. Their
> >goal is to produce and market a linux distribution which keeps their
> >company fina
At the moment, the alternatives system, the packaging system, the virtual
package names, the sensible-* scripts, the default X server, the kernel image
and the default window manager settings are all seperate entities. I think
they could all be more tightly intergrated.
At the moment, the default
* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:50:26PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > > And note that development will just start. By the time this project
> > > enters a
> > > critical stage, egcs will be improved again.
> > No, the development shouldn't start yet. A project should be p
* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> > Again, that's not an argument. People come and people go, and more of them
> > know C than C++. Besides, ech..., how can you draw an argument like this???
>
> I can because I see what's happening to dpkg and it worries me.
>
> We all are blinded by dpkg. It works, ye
>
> As we're discussing things here... i think it's important that we add the
> possbility to attach IPv6 addresses to an interface. Since you can have
> multiple IPv6 addresses on an interface i was thinking of something like
> this:
>
> IPADDR = 192.168.2.1
> IP6ADDR = 3ffe:604:5:4::1/80
> IP6A
Well, I think your program goes in the right direction. However I
feel it should be more user-friendly regarding two things:
a) presenting the user a nice interface (not just read in console)
b) going through user input and checking errors.
I don't have ti
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:50:26PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > And note that development will just start. By the time this project enters a
> > critical stage, egcs will be improved again.
> No, the development shouldn't start yet. A project should be presented to
> the iterested people and a
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:47:00PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
>
> > The current dpkg is written in C. How many programmers are working on it?
> Again, that's not an argument. People come and people go, and more of them
> know C than C++. Besides, ech..., how can you draw an argument like this??
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:39:32PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > Of course, you are entitled to your opinion. But the decisions are made by
> > people who to do the work.
> Not in this case. This is not their graduate project, nor an experiment.
> It's a package which the entire Debian distribu
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:27:32AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
>
> C++ may be OO, but it's not very good OOand it tends to compile into
> code which is both bloated and slow.
>
> dpkg is already far too slow on old hardware...hell, it's too slow on
> a P200 with 200MB of RAM, now that the sta
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 04:12:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Howdy all. I'm running potato with exim mailer and i am using the
> dhis.org dynamic dns service (there happens to be a nice dhis.org client
> in unstable, though it would be easy enough to compile it or get
> binaries...); it is
This is my fault. I'm sorry. No space left on my disk.
*
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Hi,
>>"Tyger" == Tyger Sunshine-Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Tyger> Well, maybe, but the fact is that Debian could use some
Tyger> sponsorships or major donations,
We could? What shall we use them for? (Not that we shall turn
away any donations, mind you, but we may *need* less th
* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all
> > elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the GNU
> > platform...
>
> It would be silly to try to use all
At 18:10 +0100 1999-05-20, Adrian Bridgett wrote:
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 06:47:28AM -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
Brian> Nag also sends emails regarding old bugs on your packages. I never
Brian> subscribed to that. :p
All I'm saying: Everybody is free to procmail away whatever they don't l
* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:03:46AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
>
> > 3. Most programmers would write code in C
>
> Yeah, uh. But that's the point isn't it?
No, that's the reality.
> The current dpkg is written in C. How many programmers are working on it?
Again, that
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:47:59AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all
> elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the GNU
> platform...
It would be silly to try to use all features of such a complex language
*- On 19 May, Adrian Bridgett wrote about "Xfree 3.3.3.1 for slink anywhere?"
> I've spent quite a while trying to find out but the only reference I could
> see doesn't have any packages there anymore (www.debian.org/~vincent IIRC).
>
> NB: I know that generally you can just grab the Xserver you w
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:03:46AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> 3. Most programmers would write code in C
Yeah, uh. But that's the point isn't it?
The current dpkg is written in C. How many programmers are working on it?
The only contributions to our packaging systems today are done with C++
* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> [...]
>
> but it should have not. Please ignore my last mail on this topic. I just
> noticed that the general discussions was vastly ahead of your contribution.
Too late :))) I just responded :)
marek
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* Marcus Brinkmann said:
> This mail is ignoring Aaron's request for peace over this topic, but I am
I just can't resist writing it: there was NO war on this subject, so why do
you and Aaron want to make peace?
> > become the new standard, then the language you decide to use is very
> > important
Dear all:
Do any of yo have an idea where I can find a DVD-writer that is
compatible (software and hardware wise) with SUN workstations (Unix /
Solaris operating system)?
Thanks, Theo
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:02:09PM +0200, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> This mail is ignoring Aaron's request for peace over this topic,
[...]
but it should have not. Please ignore my last mail on this topic. I just
noticed that the general discussions was vastly ahead of your contribution.
Thank
Hi,
This mail is ignoring Aaron's request for peace over this topic, but I am
not the person who can keep silent if there are obvious mistakes to point
out.
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:39:39AM -0400, Dan Nguyen wrote:
>
> Well your subject says it all "Time to rewrite dpkg." I'm assuming
> that
I've spent quite a while trying to find out but the only reference I could
see doesn't have any packages there anymore (www.debian.org/~vincent IIRC).
NB: I know that generally you can just grab the Xserver you want.
Cheers
Adrian
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 06:47:28AM -0400, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
>
> Brian> Nag also sends emails regarding old bugs on your packages. I never
> Brian> subscribed to that. :p
>
> All I'm saying: Everybody is free to procmail away whatever they don't like.
This sounds like a good idea - s
On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 01:06:48PM -0400, tony mancill wrote:
[snip]
> On a related note, couldn't we have an environment variable set at
> installation time, e.g. "NON_INTERACTIVE_DPKG=TRUE", and have the
> maintainer scripts check this to see if they should ask questions or not?
> If this variab
On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 05:09:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
[snip]
> > We really should have a policy for things like this. How about adding
> > another Provides: to kernel images (built by the excellent make-kpkg):
>
> Because too many people don't use debian kernel images.
How about only mak
On May 19, Michel Onstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As we're discussing things here... i think it's important that we add the
>possbility to attach IPv6 addresses to an interface. Since you can have
Agreed. We should try doing it right the first time.
--
ciao,
Marco
Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
> > Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Example: I've got an open old bug report that flying
> > > (a X11 pool game) doesn't support 16/24 bit displays. The upstream
> >
> > Th
Oleg Krivosheev wrote:
> is there REALLY plans to release something around June 6?
No, and there never were. Maybe they mean snapshots of unstable?
Richard Braakman
On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 12:25:58AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> But yes, you can write an "id()" function which behaves differently depending
> on what is passed to it.
You misunderstand. id is the identity function, defined for all types
and returns what it is given. In C++ terms, then:
templ
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 03:07:03PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> I also heard that templates bloat the code
Depends on how you use them. Templates work by duplicating code.
> what size are your executable compared to equivalent C stuff,
Equivalent C code? For every template in C++ the equivalent
Dean Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've been thinking a bit about the need for mass-installations. Having
> done a few of them, it gets to be a tad tedious ...
>
> Currently, the preinst and postinst scripts ask the user questions, and
> make changes according to the responses. Instea
"Tyger Sunshine-Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, maybe, but the fact is that Debian could use some sponsorships or
> major donations, and as long as RH keeps the spotlight, guess who they go
> to? Eventually, we have to get Debian out of its shell and get "the average
> linux user" (If
* Brandon Mitchell said:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I would be interested in seeing your design. It may clear up some
> concerns as to why you are picking your language (which seems to have
I would like to see it as well. So far, not even a single argument has been
presented to justify the selection of C++
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* Aaron Van Couwenberghe said:
> > The answer is - you can't... All the languages you mentioned have clean C
> > interacing methods, but no C++ ones. The reason is that C++ is not
> > interoperable.
>
> No, no, no! one word for everyone. CORBA!
I'm sorry to say that, but dream on...
marek
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* Hamish Moffatt said:
> > mention templates. And I remember how did the C++ interface, in binary
>
> This was certainly true in g++ 2.7.x, but egcs seems much better.
Much better, yes, but it's still not finished.
> (Exceptions and templates anyway; I don't know what rtti is.)
RTTI stands for R
* Sven LUTHER said:
> > > Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, and is it
> > > still
> > > so today ? Is there effort made to fix this ? how far are they ?
> >
> > I haven't used RTTI, but in my experience templates work without problems
>
> I also heard that template
* Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho said:
> > Is that true, I have heard this agrument often, but is it true, and is it
> > still
> > so today ? Is there effort made to fix this ? how far are they ?
>
> I haven't used RTTI, but in my experience templates work without problems
> and exceptions work most of
* Sven LUTHER said:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> >
> > 1. you create a C library with all the dpkg functionality inside
> > 2. you compile and link it as a shared library
> > 3. you write several simple drivers to interface the user to that library
> > 4. t
* Sven LUTHER said:
> > > Agreed. Too bad C++ does not support parametric polymorphism too well.
> > > Templates come close, so the hope is not lost.
> > But the problem is that templates, nor exceptions or rtti (which are all
> > elements of MODERN C++ programming) don't work well enough on the
* Sven LUTHER said:
> > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pillar of structured programming that I
> > > can't understand how anybody could live without it.
> > Is it? AFAICS none of the traditional languages like Pascal or C has
> > polimorphism at its base...
>
> What you call polymorphism is ju
Adam Di Carlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I think the ideal solution would be to have a caching proxy based on
> > rsync to communicate with the upstream mirror, and http (or a new
> > apt method) to communicate with apt.
>
> I was actually think
Hi all,
NetSpades is a client/server based system designed to be played over a
network of some kind. It allows 4 people to play Spades, and chat as
well from anywhere in the world. It includes a console client using
slang. As well as a gtk based client for X. And if you've got a
friend which d
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 11:48:25AM +0200, Christian Kurz wrote:
> Christian Meder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Example: I've got an open old bug report that flying
> > (a X11 pool game) doesn't support 16/24 bit displays. The upstream
>
> This would speak for making the mechanismen configurable.
On Wed, 19 May, 1999, Joey Hess wrote:
> Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote:
> The debian installer is uploaded, and uses the rpm. The only advantage over
> using alien is you get:
>
> a) a clean upgrade path from the older package, and an easy upgrade to
>the next version when it comes out.
> b) reg
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 09:27:10PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote:
> Besides, as I said, at this stage, do the analysis, not the coding. It can
> always be scrapped if it looks like it would be pointless, but I'd like to
> see some non-emotive reasons not to even _consider_ it.
here's a non-
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 03:34:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> Something like
> Objective Caml version 2.02
> # let id x = x ;;
> val id : 'a -> 'a =
> ---
> Not sure, but i think we are not talking with the same definition of
> the same word ?
C++ isn't a
Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, May 19, 1999 at 05:24:08AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
> [...]
> > Notably, I'm going to be writing it in C++. This will add
> > about 270k to the boot disks' root image, but as the floppy
> > install methods are for the most part
RH isn't "competition" to debian except in the most positive sense of
friendly rivalry. We have different aims, different goals. Their
goal is to produce and market a linux distribution which keeps their
company financially viable. Our goal is to produce a distribution
which does what we want w
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:47:22AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote:
[snip]
> Do not worry, everyone will have a chance to view the code in an anonymous
> CVS server (which is already setup). There will be ample documentation
> and views on the current spec will be heard. Please consider this a semi
> form
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:14:31AM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:45:45PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
> > On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 12:44:02AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > > * Aaron Van Couwenberghe said:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Polymorphism is such an obvious pill
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:54:45PM +1000, Daniel James Patterson wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 08:44:39PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Speaking of baser instincts, Rationale Rose isn't free software, is it?
> >
> > Are there any nice (or even not-nice) OO design tools that are?
> >
>
> No
On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:31:51PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
>
> >> "s" == solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> s> Manager) showed up in unstable so i grabbed it. Next time i
> s> rebooted, it gave me the gnome login screen and my mouse works, but
> s> for some odd reason it disables
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