Re: Possible GIMP contest for new Debian logo

1999-01-26 Thread Nils Lohner
Sorry, this probably belongs on -devel... I'll post it there too. About the design, I personally like the penguin for Debian GNU/Linux, have something similar for Hurd (meaning a red profile of a GNU head or something) and something different (maybe plain nice graphical text? There was a nic

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > But is that specific problem Debian/slink related..? That is, does it work > > correctly with potato? > > No, it does not work correctly with potato either. It seems to be a > general incompatibility with 2.2 2.2 did something bizzar to how the p

Re: Uploaded util-linux 2.9g-6 (source i386) to master

1999-01-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Vincent Renardias wrote: > Ok, so if we really want a Debian 2.1 that is 100% kernel 2.2.x > compatible it needs this package to be included in frozen. > I've just uploaded it in Incoming/ 10 minutes ago. > Non-developers can also access it at http://www.ldsol.com/~vincent/ >

Re: Uploaded util-linux 2.9g-6 (source i386) to master

1999-01-26 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Eric Delaunay wrote: > Vincent Renardias wrote: > [There is text before PGP section.] > > > > Ok, so if we really want a Debian 2.1 that is 100% kernel 2.2.x > > compatible it needs this package to be included in frozen. > > I've just uploaded it in Incoming/ 10 minutes ago.

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Wichert" == Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jules> Whilst I have no objections to such a change in rules, I am Jules> baffled that anyone could prefer xpaint to gimp, even for Jules> drawing straight lines and ellipses. Wichert> Why is this a change in rules? I

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Jules Bean wrote: > Whilst I have no objections to such a change in rules, I am baffled that > anyone could prefer xpaint to gimp, even for drawing straight lines and > ellipses. Why is this a change in rules? I've never seen it written anywhere that you are obliged to use the gimp. I w

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Peter S Galbraith wrote: > kerneld is replaced by something else, etc. Kerneld is replaced by a kernel thread, so it has become obsolete. The modutils package in slink has been able to handle that change for quite a while now. Wichert. -- =

Re: Uploaded util-linux 2.9g-6 (source i386) to master

1999-01-26 Thread Eric Delaunay
Vincent Renardias wrote: [There is text before PGP section.] > > Ok, so if we really want a Debian 2.1 that is 100% kernel 2.2.x > compatible it needs this package to be included in frozen. > I've just uploaded it in Incoming/ 10 minutes ago. > Non-developers can also access it at http://www.ldsol

Uploaded util-linux 2.9g-6 (source i386) to master

1999-01-26 Thread Vincent Renardias
Ok, so if we really want a Debian 2.1 that is 100% kernel 2.2.x compatible it needs this package to be included in frozen. I've just uploaded it in Incoming/ 10 minutes ago. Non-developers can also access it at http://www.ldsol.com/~vincent/ (NB: there are _2_ binary packages to install: util-linu

Re: Release notes for slink

1999-01-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 10:28:56PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How about adding that the xvidtune program is in the xf86setup package? Some > users may be confident enough about their X configuration not to bother > installing xf86setup, and then miss xvidtune. As of version -9, xvidtune is

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:22:36 GMT, Marc Haber wrote: >On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:26:05 -0800, you wrote: >>Major services generally get a root entry from me. Some people >>think it is ugly but there is some purity in cd'ing to /www/somebusinesssite/ >It

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 10:23:34PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > Quoting Juergen A. Erhard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I personally thing either the ftp hierarchy should go to /var/ftp, or > > the www data should move to /home/www (the latter I'd prefer). > > /home/(ftp|www) is just plain ugly. (It's

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:26:05 -0800, you wrote: >Major services generally get a root entry from me. Some people >think it is ugly but there is some purity in cd'ing to /www/somebusinesssite/ It outright violates the fhs, though. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No cou

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Raul Miller
Remco van de Meent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Because I, like every other user should do, read the documentation, and thus > read you need util-linux 2.9g. And if it works for you with lower versions, > does it always work? Yes, maybe, no, maybe not. I don't even want to take > the risk of 'yes i

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Raul Miller
Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) If you DO NEED a > 128 MB swap file you are in serious trouble. Not if you have 2G ram. -- Raul

Re: Way, way off-topic

1999-01-26 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > On the contrary. The "military", at least in the US and the UK, act in > accordance with the laws of their respective nations, which require them to > obey the civilian governments. It is those governments, not the > "military", that are signatories to treaties (not that I know of any

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Joey Hess wrote: > I'm forced to agree. Support for swap partitions > 128 mb is a new > feature; a mkswap that doesn't support it isn't a major incompatability. > Few people will need the feature anyway, and if they do need it the simple > workaround is to use multiple 128 mb partitions. Okay, rea

Re: filters: Licence problems

1999-01-26 Thread Edward Betts
On Tue, 26 Jan, 1999, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > This one is easy. Install this as your cron job: > > grep straying /bin/cat; touch /bin/cat; free /bin/cat $ grep straying /bin/cat; touch /bin/cat; free /bin/cat touch: /bin/cat: Permission denied total used free shared

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > I just discovered, unfortunately, that you need the util-linux package > > from potato (unstable). Rest of the things in slink are fine with > > 2.2.0!! > > Why's that? I'm using the one from slink with 2.2.0 and it works just > fine. I've been running 2.2.0-pre6 for a co

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 01:33:01PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:21:56 -0500, Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer wrote: > > >I have about 50 machines with all 4 DIMM slots filled with 128M sticks. > >I have *8* 128M swap partitions, and it's not enough since the (*&[EMAIL > >PROTE

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 08:36:53PM +0100, Remco van de Meent wrote: > I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink > distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement > mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the packages (versions) in slink. > Howe

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm forced to ask: what for? I'm forced to agree. Support for swap partitions > 128 mb is a new feature; a mkswap that doesn't support it isn't a major incompatability. Few people will need the feature anyway, and if they do need it the simple workaround is to use mult

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: > In my more than honest opinion, I think util-linux 2.9g should be included > in slink. Developments in the computer business are going fast, as everyone > knows, and on the day slink will get released, I think a lot of people who > are going to upg

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:21:56 -0500, Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer wrote: >I have about 50 machines with all 4 DIMM slots filled with 128M sticks. >I have *8* 128M swap partitions, and it's not enough since the (*&[EMAIL >PROTECTED] >users run progra

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 07:59:29PM +0100, Remco van de Meent wrote: > I just discovered, unfortunately, that you need the util-linux package from > potato (unstable). Rest of the things in slink are fine with 2.2.0!! Why's that? I'm using the one from slink with 2.2.0 and it works just fine. I've

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 03:03:14PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm forced to ask: what for? > > a) If you DO NEED a > 128 MB swap file you are in serious trouble. You >should get more ram; the induced cost of extremely slow operation is much >higher than that of two lousy DIMMs.

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:03:14 -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: >c) The argument "something on the kernel wants it" doesn't hold. For that > matter, the kernel wants coda, and that's in project/experimental. What > did you say? That coda is not es

Re: libtool & rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 02:51:03PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > an easy fix for that? Splitting the packages is a possibility, but > > libgeda is of absolutely no use on its own yet, and I don't think there > > is anything for a libgeda-dev. > > I ha

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 08:36:53PM +0100, Remco van de Meent wrote: > I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink > distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement > mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the packages (versions) in slink. > However

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > Another problem: bootpc from the netstd package does not work with 2.2. > > Btw the kernel has bootp support itself, but it can't be used with pnp > > network cards which need isapnp initialization. So my network setup wh

Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hi, With this message, I know I'm going to touch a rather sensitive subject, but however, I think it's worth it. I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Gergely Madarasz wrote: > Another problem: bootpc from the netstd package does not work with 2.2. > Btw the kernel has bootp support itself, but it can't be used with pnp > network cards which need isapnp initialization. So my network setup which > used bootp breaks with 2.2... But is that specifi

Re: LSH (GPL'd SSH)

1999-01-26 Thread Daniel Quinlan
J.H.M. Dassen wrote: >> Another freeness issue (albeit a relatively minor one) is that currently >> lsh requires scsh (which is non-free) for the generation of include files >> (they are pregenerated in the tarball; the scsh scripts are needed only >> for development). It would be nice if someone

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Also, Stephen Crowley noted that new dhcp-packages should be included in > slink, because the ones that currently are in slink ain't compatible with > Linux-2.2 either, but maybe he can explain that himself :) Another problem: bootpc from the netst

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
Raul Miller wrote: > We'll have to keep around the empty xfnt* packages indefinitely (should they > need to be created) until a better solution is available, no matter what. Surely a small set of *empty* packages will not be a great problem in terms of disk sapce in master. > I think you missed t

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
Oops, sorry. Bad formatting, here is the right one: I have a computer lab with 20 Debian machines. Suppose I want to upgrade them to slink and I want the new font packages to be installed (like most people will also want). Do you mean that I should enter dselect and select them by hand on each of

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > I reiterate my challenge. Demonstrate to me a manner in which a > hamm system upgraded to slink, which keeps the old X font and static > library packages, will be broken. Oh, I forgot to tell you something: I have a computer lab with 20 Debian mach

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Raul Miller
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the current state of things, a Debian system which is upgraded by > dselect from hamm to slink, from slink to potato, from potato to potato+1, > and from potato+1 to potato+2 may have, say, X version 5.5, and xfonts > version 3.3.2.3-2. > > Do you th

Intent to package: pcd2html

1999-01-26 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello I would like to package my self written script system pcd2html which creates commented HTML pages from a Kodak Photo CD using user supplied options for convert from ImageMagick and describing text. Informations are available at http://www.physik.uni-halle.de/~e2od5/debian/pcd2html.html

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > I reiterate my challenge. Demonstrate to me a manner in which a > hamm system upgraded to slink, which keeps the old X font and static > library packages, will be broken. I hope you will agree that sometimes we have to think about the future. With

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > modutils, gcc, binutils, libc5, libc6, ldso, procps, sysutils, psmisc, > > hostname, loadlin, shellutils, autofs, nfs-server, bash, ncpfs, > > pcmcia-cs, ppp, util-linux. > > > > If you get the versions of these packages that are in the currently > > frozen Debian dist

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
Branden Robinson: > [...] > Only now do you seem to be concerned. No, this has been a frequently asked question for some time in debian-user. I should probably add it to the Debian FAQ. Please, note that I'm not blaming you for not having thought about this problem *in advance*. I just want to se

Re: What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Peter S Galbraith wrote: > Will some guru tell us what critical packages we need to update in order > to use 2.2 ? I'm not a guru I guess, but I can cut&paste something from linux/Documentation/Changes: - Kernel modules 2.1.121 ; insmod -V - Gnu C 2.7.2.3

Re: Way, way off-topic was: Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 10:33:30AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > > You've forgotten something. The military act as if they are above any > > laws. (If they cared about obeying laws, they would be disarming nuclear > > weapons under their international treaty obligations) > > On the contrary.

Licenses for non-software works, and the definition of software, and , the new DFSG

1999-01-26 Thread Jules Bean
Hi, In response to an issue on -legal, I am reopening the debate on how free those parts of debian which are not software (or not precisely software) should be. IMO, this debate should be conducted on -policy, and I ask all replies to this message to trim the CC: line. This issue was discussed i

Re: Why /var/www? (Was: Where does 'www-data' come from?)

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:23:34 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: >/home/(ftp|www) is just plain ugly. (It's a real pain when you're trying >to share nfs home dirs between web servers, for example.) I use /var/ftp >on my own system (well, actually /var/local/f

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Darren Benham
On 26-Jan-99 Randy Edwards wrote: >One question I had was out of the two options you list above, which > category do you see our present logo falling into: the liberal license or the > official logo? Or would this new logo contest be used to choose logos for > both categories? > Because of t

What's needed for kernel 2.2

1999-01-26 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Will some guru tell us what critical packages we need to update in order to use 2.2 ? kerneld is replaced by something else, etc. I guess that if I'm asking that means I should wait for a proper Debian upgrade. Or does kernel-image-2.2.0-i686_2.2.0-1_i386.deb have all the dependencies sorted out

Way, way off-topic was: Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-26 Thread John Hasler
Andrew writes: > You've forgotten something. The military act as if they are above any > laws. (If they cared about obeying laws, they would be disarming nuclear > weapons under their international treaty obligations) On the contrary. The "military", at least in the US and the UK, act in ac

Processed: Need a check for suid applications

1999-01-26 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 28850 general Bug#28850: gettext: security problem when used in setuid programs Bug reassigned from package `gettext, libc6' to `general'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Ian Jackson (administrato

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Raul Miller
Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whilst I have no objections to such a change in rules, I am baffled that > anyone could prefer xpaint to gimp, even for drawing straight lines and > ellipses. gimp won't run on smaller machines. Also, there's Rick Hohensee's caligraphic patch for (if I reca

Re: I'm a concerned about slink. specifically jdk1.1, idraw, and xaw-wrappers

1999-01-26 Thread Dale E. Martin
"Guenter Geiger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ... and it is solved now :) > > Actually I have to say, if I would have been the one who was supposed to fix > the > bug, it would have taken me another hundred days, and probably I would have > lost > my last hair upon this ... > > But luckily, t

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Jakob 'sparky' Kaivo
This is getting WAY out of hand here. How about this: The mail spool MUST be accessible through /var/mail AND /var/spool/mail, and spool files MUST take the form /var/{spool/}mail/$LOGNAME. Either /var/mail or /var/spool/mail, or both, MAY be symbolic links to another directory. It is RECOMMENDED

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:42:18PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Can you *guarantee* that the package now called xfonts-base will *always* > have the same functionality and will always be *identical* to the one > called xfntbase in hamm? > > Can you *guarantee* that the package now called xlib6g-s

Re: Debian booth at linuxworld, volenteers wanted

1999-01-26 Thread Dale E. Martin
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, it's in San Jose California, March 1-4th. Thanks. Then I can't volunteer, although I frequently seem to find myself in San Jose :-) Later, Dale -- +- pgp key available --+ | Dale E. Martin | Cl

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Ted" == Theodore Y Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ted> I keep hearing people claim that distribution folks are saying "ick", Ted> but I haven't heard any technical reasons besides, "Moving spool Ted> directories is hard". Fine. Here are a few. I, and a number of other

Re: Debian logo contest, step 2

1999-01-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > I just got word back from Sven Riedel, the guy in charge of organizing > gimp contests. He was happy with our request, and was willing to organize > the whole thing. The contest will start in februari, after the current > contest (dreams) ends. Det

Need a check for suid applications

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 28850 general thanks This bug is now fixed in gettext_0.10.35-7. However, somebody should check that every suid application in slink which is statically linked against gettext is recompiled with the new gettext. (Maybe doing "gettextize -f -c"). Thanks. -- "6525d3e1b6548dd210c536bf09

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Jules Bean
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Daniel Martin wrote: > > If we are going to have a gimp.org done contest, I would like to see > that the rules allow people to use things that are not gimp, but that > are DFSG free software. I find the command-line pnm tools very useful > in manipulating images, and it woul

Re: libtool & rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Martin Mitchell
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > an easy fix for that? Splitting the packages is a possibility, but > > libgeda is of absolutely no use on its own yet, and I don't think there > > is anything for a libgeda-dev. > > I have found this in

FreeHow to check for free space in perl?

1999-01-26 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
I am trying to write a perl script that needs to make some calculation based on free space in several partitions. What's the best method for checking the free space in a file system using perl? Without using backticks and unix commands, is there any better mean to do it? -- Eduardo Marcel

Debian logo contest, step 2

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I just got word back from Sven Riedel, the guy in charge of organizing gimp contests. He was happy with our request, and was willing to organize the whole thing. The contest will start in februari, after the current contest (dreams) ends. Details and submissions will be at the usual site: http://c

Intend to package simulpic

1999-01-26 Thread Samuel Tardieu
Source: simulpic Section: otherosfs Priority: optional Maintainer: Samuel Tardieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Standards-Version: 2.4.0.0 Package: simulpic Architecture: any Depends: ${shlibs:Depends} Description: Microchip PIC device simulator This software allows to simulate the execution of any program

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Daniel Martin
Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two > > > logos: one logo with a liberal license that people

[HERT] ANNOUNCE: linux auditd daemon 1.10

1999-01-26 Thread Anthony C . Zboralski
Greetings, We have just released auditd version 1.10 for linux. Auditd is part of the linux kernel auditing toolkit. It will capture auditing trails created by the kernel auditĀ­ ing facility from /proc/audit, filter them, and save them in specific log files. For the moment,

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 01:27:13PM +, Alan Cox wrote: > > I'll give you one solid reason, uniformity across unix platforms is a > > must have if unix, especially free unices, are going to succesfully > > If we are in marketing mode let me point out we are not Unix in the first > place and that

Re: libtool & rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > A package I maintain uses libtool. To remove the rpath stuff, I > apply this patch to configure.in. Now lintian tells me that the executables > have rpath set too! Is there an easy way to fix that? > > Also, because this package (geda) includes a libr

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Steve Greenland wrote: > 1. We have to agree on *two* logos :-). No, we have to agree on a *set* of logos: we simply request that each submission consists of two logos. Wichert. -- == This combination of byte

libtool & rpath

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
A package I maintain uses libtool. To remove the rpath stuff, I apply this patch to configure.in. Now lintian tells me that the executables have rpath set too! Is there an easy way to fix that? Also, because this package (geda) includes a library, debhelper is generating an shlibs file for it. Bu

Re: new snapshot

1999-01-26 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
[I am cross-posting this to debian-devel and to the plplot mailing lists.] Hi Geoffrey, Thanks for the announcement of this much awaited new snapshot of PLplot. Being the maintainer of both plplot and octave-plplot packages for Debian GNU/Linux, I would like to add some comments to your message:

Re: linux 2.2.0: "System is 666kB"

1999-01-26 Thread Peter Eades
Thanks for the binary but... when trying to boot with it the kernel uncompreses, gives the message booting kernel and then stops. My machine is a cyrex 686 200. Does the binary only work for intell chips? I noticed that specific suport for non intell chips is a feature of 2.2.0. I guess this means

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:42:18PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > Upgrading a system from hamm to slink should make the system to be in the > same state as if slink had been installed from scratch. Indeed. All of my systems have remnants of base and timezone remaining. (Actually I just discovered t

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 07:19:20AM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > I'll give you one solid reason, uniformity across unix platforms is a > must have if unix, especially free unices, are going to succesfully > dominate the market. Sun/AIX/HP-UX/OSF/SCO are not going to change, > but we could prove ou

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
> I'll give you one solid reason, uniformity across unix platforms is a > must have if unix, especially free unices, are going to succesfully If we are in marketing mode let me point out we are not Unix in the first place and that C:\> is the standard > I don't see a connection between /var/spoo

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Jules Bean
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two > > logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and > > another, more restricted

Re: LSH (GPL'd SSH)

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 12:50:52PM +0100, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 16:49:57 -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > > NOTE: For those that are on the ball, they do seem to be considering > > removing idea from the base source and having it as a seperate module > > (similar to GnuPG's appr

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Randy Edwards
> I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two > logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and > another, more restricted logo for things like official CD's and so. This seems like a logical solution. Having the official "Debian" logo could p

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Ben Collins
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 10:33:27PM -0800, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:09:34PM -0500, Kragen Sitaker wrote: > > > If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can > > > determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there > > > that for al

Re: xxgdb should get pulled

1999-01-26 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:34:58 -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: [my rant deleted] > I have yet to learn how to navigate this area, and am often surprised > at how strongly an offhand comment is taken. Smilies might have helped. In this case, your comment really triggered me. I seldomly flame, but in

Re: LSH (GPL'd SSH)

1999-01-26 Thread J.H.M. Dassen
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 16:49:57 -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > NOTE: For those that are on the ball, they do seem to be considering > removing idea from the base source and having it as a seperate module > (similar to GnuPG's approach). Another freeness issue (albeit a relatively minor one) is that

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Avery Pennarun wrote: > On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 02:18:56PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > > > You have yet to explain what will BREAK if people continue to use the old > > > font packages. Not in the future, RIGHT NOW. >

Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink

1999-01-26 Thread Randy Edwards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think it would be great for Debian to get 2.2 in to slink, even if it is > priority extra. I agree it should be included. We can change the priority so it's not automatically installed and warn people that it is experimental/might break things in dselect's descript

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Alan Cox
> But I don't think the FHS should be specifying the actual location of > the files at all. True, the FHS should not cause too much pain for the Ok good we agree on this > The only thing that really matters is what pathnames applications can > count upon to work. Given that the rest of the wor

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread t . sippel-dau
The keyboard of Kragen Sitaker emitted at some point in time: > > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > > If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can > > determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there > > that for all compliant distributio

Re: linux 2.2.0: "System is 666kB"

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Enrique Zanardi wrote: > (BTW, is kernel-headers still needed? libc6-dev ships with a full set of > headers, doesn't it?) Right, but those are for 2.0.36 and the ones that come with 2.1/2.2 are different (and yes, I need those new ones thus I have to manually edit the things in /usr/include everyt

Re: linux 2.2.0: "System is 666kB"

1999-01-26 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 11:39:07PM -0500, Johnie Ingram wrote: > Hm, now theres a worrisome compile message. :-) > > Anyway, for you early adopters, I've made source and debs available at: What about uploading everything but the kernel-image package for Slink, now that Bryan has said he will acc

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Florian La Roche
> At least that way applications that want to use the same dirctory as the > vast majority of other Unix systems will work without needing a special > case for Linux. However, I would much rather see us adopt the full, > correct solution, rather than this half-measure. How can changing from /var/

Re: Reality check! [was: Re: Debian goes big business?]

1999-01-26 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 09:33:16AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > hamm was released with a pre-selections wrapper, where you could chose > certain sets of pre-selected packages. it works, but could use some > improvement and probably needs to be updated for slink - there's a good > place for you to

Re: dpkg port to HP-UX

1999-01-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 02:22:13AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > Hmmm. swinstall (HP-UX native I think) seems to support dependencies. > > It's pretty ugly though and I don't know if there's a command line version. > > Yes, you can drive swinstall fr

Intend to package gnat-glade

1999-01-26 Thread Samuel Tardieu
GLADE is the implementation of the Distributed Systems Annex for GNAT, the GNU Ada95 compiler. Since there already is a GLADE (a Gtk GUI builder), I will call the package gnat-glade since this is really a GNAT add-on. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg port to HP-UX

1999-01-26 Thread Bdale Garbee
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Hmmm. swinstall (HP-UX native I think) seems to support dependencies. > It's pretty ugly though and I don't know if there's a command line version. Yes, you can drive swinstall from the command line. It's not pretty, but it works. Unfortunately, there

Re: Release notes for slink

1999-01-26 Thread A . J . Gray
On Thu, Jan 14, 1999 at 04:20:51PM +, Robert Woodcock wrote: > Many of you are painfully aware that there are some issues in slink that are > impractical to correct before release. > > > xbase -> xbase >twm >xterm >xbase-clients >xdm >xf86setup How abo

Re: Debian logo & its license

1999-01-26 Thread A . J . Gray
On Sun, Jan 24, 1999 at 07:26:19AM -, Robert Woodcock wrote: > Avery Pennarun wrote: > >What if someone gets hold of the Linux kernel and uses it to guide nuclear > >missiles? (Well, at least they have to share their changes with us :)) > > Only if they distribute the control systems :> You'v

Re: I'm a concerned about slink. specifically jdk1.1, idraw, and xaw-wrappers

1999-01-26 Thread Guenter Geiger
Dale E. Martin wrote > Then I tried to use idraw, which I've used in the past a _bunch_ of times. > It keeps segmentation faulting on me, and so I went to look at > bugs.debian.org and the bug report about this is over 100 days old. ... and it is solved now :) Actually I have to say, if I would

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, James A. Treacy wrote: > I'd like to thank Wichert for taking on this thankless task. > > I'd also like to ask that we set strict criteria for what constitutes a > logo. I don't feel like going back through the archives, but the criteria > I remember off the top of my head ar

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Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 07:09:34PM -0500, Kragen Sitaker wrote: > > If we must back out /var/mail (for no good technical reason that I can > > determine), then at the very least I think we should state that there > > that for all compliant distributions, /var/mail *MUST* be a valid way of > > reach

Re: Resolutions to comments on LSB-FHS-TS_SPEC_V1.0

1999-01-26 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
From: Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:15:37 + (GMT) > but I haven't heard any technical reasons besides, "Moving spool > directories is hard". When I and others have pointed out that moving > the spool directory isn't required; just a symlink, I have hear

Re: New logo strategy

1999-01-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 09:11:47PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Jan-99, 19:06 (CST), Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree with James Treacy's observation that we will probably need two > > logos: one logo with a liberal license that people can just freely, and > > anot

Re: the Great X Reorganization, package splits, and renaming

1999-01-26 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Mon, Jan 25, 1999 at 02:18:56PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > You have yet to explain what will BREAK if people continue to use the old > > font packages. Not in the future, RIGHT NOW. > > Oh, you have yet to explain why a clock bomb is *not

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