Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-15 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Hmm, I think this is my first comment on this.. On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Tom Lees wrote: > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 02:29:04PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > Are there any plans to merge this with apt? Seems gdselect has the frontend, > > and apt has the backend. > > Well, I could do with some apt in-b

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 06:02:28PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I was under the impression that putting hooks in to use crypto was enough > > to raise the hackles of the export hounds. > > Standing near the border and thinking about prime numbers is enough to > raise the hackles of the expo

bug in xinit/startx or /etc/X11/Xsession?

1998-10-15 Thread Nick Cabatoff
At the top of /etc/X11/Xsession, a comment is given: # global Xsession file -- used by both xdm and xinit (startx) However, neither xinit or startx appear to be aware of its existence. Does anyone know whether this is a question of the comment being obsolete, ahead of its time, or simply wrong?

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
Hartmut Koptein wrote: > 1. binary-only NMUs breaks policity Probably. > 2. every NMU must be with source I hope. > 3. Porters needn't to ask maintainers for permission No-one has to ask for permission for a NMU. That's the point of a NMU. You file a bug, you wait a reasonable time, if i

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
James Troup wrote: > Who said they were bad? You did. A few days ago you agreed that bin-only NMU's were not ideal. I can't dig it up right now. > They are very rarely necessary however, since > 99.5% of the time (the only exception I know of is Hartmut's packages) > i386 packages are already com

glibc 2.1 (test release 2.0.98) for i386 (was: Re: The freeze and IMMINENT 2.2.0p1!!)

1998-10-15 Thread Joel Klecker
At 21:19 +0200 1998-10-10, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Oct 09, "J.H.M. Dassen Ray\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can see pcmcia (28-Sep-98 is needed) and netutils (so that IPv6 is >> supported), but not "a lot of packages". >IIRC, libc6 doesn't support IPv6; you need a beta version for that. So this

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, John! Thanks for reminding me about that. Part of the reason I forgot is that there is no direct link to it from main Web page. Perhaps FAQ-O-Matic deserved it's place on Main page. Sasha. > kushni> > kushni>If there were some Debian oriented database, where one could > kushni>add his ex

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Alonso Soto
> This is characteristic of reading and writing outside of array > bounds. (as determined by malloc) I linked it with Electric Fence. It didn't report anything though... M. S. Martin A. Soto J. Profesor Departamento de Ingenieria de Sistemas y Comput

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: meskes>On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: meskes>> libmagick4-dev19332 libmagick: ldconfig-symlink-before-shlib-in-deb LI#67 [217] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott K. Ellis)) meskes> meskes>I wish I would understand a message li

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-15 Thread john
Marc Singer writes: > I was under the impression that putting hooks in to use crypto was enough > to raise the hackles of the export hounds. Standing near the border and thinking about prime numbers is enough to raise the hackles of the export kooks. Ihere has got to be some limit to the amount o

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Stephen Crowley wrote: crow>That is ridiculous, there is no reason to remove gnome before the freeze, if you FWIW, one of the slashdot commenters on the slink-freeze, commends slink for including gnome ( he did install the packages, too) . John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Richard Braakman
Joseph Carter wrote: > Dpkg now does support gpg though not by default (you might have still been > away at the time this came up) and it was planned to modify dinstall to > support both. Did the dinstall mod not happen or something? Indeed not. It turned out that gpg was not consistent enough

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: kushni> kushni>If there were some Debian oriented database, where one could kushni>add his experience about installation of Debian on some kushni>unusual hardware, I would add mine about ThinkPad 380XD. THERE IS ! FAQ-O-MATIC ! (Ex

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Really? I use cvs, and hence all my packages are indeed built > from scratch. I was under the impression that more and more people > are etting converted to CVS, but I guess that is wishful thinking. Well I don't use cvs, but my hand-crafted version control and pa

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
James Troup wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > James Troup wrote: > > > They don't compile from freshly unpacked source. > > > > How odd. Other maintainer must work substantially differently than I, then. > > If you're building foobar 1.1-3, do you really recompile from a > fre

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 03:29:34PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > theone wrote: > > Names after Slink is very simple. They should just be named after userfriendly characters. Great - I liked the penguin idea, but the names aren't very practical for directories... pity... Anyway - are we going to

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 03:29:34PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > theone wrote: > > Names after Slink is very simple. They should just be named after > > userfriendly characters. > > Oooh.. that means our releases would even have their own geek code blocks > (http://www.userfriendly.org/cast/) ;-)

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "David" == David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Well, what happens when lots of people try it, see that it David> is broken, and associate Gnome with being broken and David> unstable? That said, I don't think that will happen if it David> is loudly declared to be *

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:14:20PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > > Can I move mutt-i from non-us to main? > > There is no crypto code in the package, only SHA-1 (hash algorithm) and > > code to run pgp or gnupg. > > > > (Waiting to resolve this issue I haven't uploaded yet the stripped version > > t

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Marc Singer wrote: > > I think that keeping it on the CD is spurious because the CD > represents what we know works. Packages that don't work can be > downloaded from the FTP servers by the people who want to fuss with > them. Gnome is high profile because it has fancy scre

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:23:38PM +0100, James Troup wrote: > Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. > > I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... > > 2.x; we don't accept later stuff. Dpkg

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Joseph Carter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 03:08:46PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote: > Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. > I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... The Debian standard is RSA/IDEA (2.6.x compatible) keys, though Debian is slowly adjusting to

Re: what's after slink

1998-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
theone wrote: > Names after Slink is very simple. They should just be named after > userfriendly characters. Oooh.. that means our releases would even have their own geek code blocks (http://www.userfriendly.org/cast/) ;-) dust_puppy pitr aj chief cobb erwin greg hillary mike smiling_man stef

Re: freetype1 is gone from slink, imagemagick still depends on it

1998-10-15 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:39:05PM -0700, Philippe Troin wrote: > "Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:14:20PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > > I'm a little confused. freetype2-dev conflicts with freetype1 (<= > > > 1.0.0.1998-03-22-1) yet freetype1 is nowhe

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 03:24:23PM -0700, David Welton wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:18:21AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Marc Singer wrote: > > > I installed it yesterday to get a glimpse at what they are doing. I'd > > > say it should be left out because it doesn't really work. It is

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 at 12:18:21AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Marc Singer wrote: > > I installed it yesterday to get a glimpse at what they are doing. I'd > > say it should be left out because it doesn't really work. It is a > > fine demonstration, but it doesn't add value to Debian until it

Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Seth M. Landsman wrote: > I've traced the problem to splogger blocking. If I kill splogger, > everything is happy, but no qmail messages get logged. The problem is that no new unix domain sockets are accept()'ed. I don't know why. > Furthermore, I've found that qmail writes to the l

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Marc Singer wrote: > I installed it yesterday to get a glimpse at what they are doing. I'd > say it should be left out because it doesn't really work. It is a > fine demonstration, but it doesn't add value to Debian until it can be > used either a) to hack against, or b) to provide a workable des

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Wednesday 14 October 1998, at 12 h 19, the keyboard of Brian White > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The following are packages I feel we can remove: > ... > > netatalk 25598 netalk: several problems (and the solution) [64] > > (Joel Klecker <[EMAIL PR

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Ben Armstrong wrote: > > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > > > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > > > things don't work. It sounds like there will probably be a 1.0 > > > release coming up in a few months that will be thoroughly

Re: latest sysklogd broken?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Paul Slootman wrote: > On Wed 14 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Thomas Lakofski wrote: > > > > > > Seems that the latest sysklogd package breaks sendmail's (and cron's, just > > > checked) logging to syslog -- it works for a few minutes, and then no more > > > logs. I don't know if this is u

Re: latest sysklogd broken?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi, just in case you haven't noticed yet, I've uploaded a fixed sysklogd package which is already installed in the archive. I've reverted a patch that caused problems. You can also find the package from: ftp://ftp.infodrom.north.de/pub/people/joey/debian/sysklogd_1.3-28_i386.deb Michael Sobolev

Re: freetype1 is gone from slink, imagemagick still depends on it

1998-10-15 Thread Philippe Troin
"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 07:14:20PM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > I'm a little confused. freetype2-dev conflicts with freetype1 (<= > > 1.0.0.1998-03-22-1) yet freetype1 is nowhere to be found in slink, > > and the latest version in hamm is 1.0.0

Re: Intent to package: slocate

1998-10-15 Thread Joey Hess
Robert Woodcock wrote: > As featured on Bugtraq and recently Freshmeat, slocate is a replacement for > locate/updatedb. It keeps track of UID's for files so that people can't see > other people's hidden stuff, while still seeing their own. > > I'll have it create a diversion for /usr/bin/locate an

Re: gdselect alpha 3

1998-10-15 Thread Tom Lees
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 02:29:04PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > Are there any plans to merge this with apt? Seems gdselect has the frontend, > and apt has the backend. Well, I could do with some apt in-built dependency handling :) There isnt time before the freeze, and AFAIK there are no plans now (w

Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades

1998-10-15 Thread Michael Stone
Quoting Stephane Bortzmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Yes, the current Debian system is really inconvenient. Each time you > want to do something useful with a documentation (print it, grep it, > glimpse it, vi it, remember that not every program is able to read > compressed files and "zcat file.gz |

Re: IA32 vs i386

1998-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:09:23PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > The intel version of debian packages are in some directory path > downstream from ../../i386/.. and the package names also carry i386. > While this is technically correct, it can be missleading to some that > the package only runs

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:02:41PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:32:02AM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? > > > > > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > > > current packages in Slink

Re: moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 06:55:36PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Can I move mutt-i from non-us to main? > There is no crypto code in the package, only SHA-1 (hash algorithm) and > code to run pgp or gnupg. > > (Waiting to resolve this issue I haven't uploaded yet the stripped version > to main, I h

Re: IA32 vs i386

1998-10-15 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:09:23PM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote: > The intel version of debian packages are in some directory path > downstream from ../../i386/.. and the package names also carry i386. > While this is technically correct, it can be missleading to some that > the package only runs

IA32 vs i386

1998-10-15 Thread Kenneth Scharf
The intel version of debian packages are in some directory path downstream from ../../i386/.. and the package names also carry i386. While this is technically correct, it can be missleading to some that the package only runs on an 80386 cpu. The current name for the cpu family from intel (and cl

Re: Anyone packaging snes9x?

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 03:07:19PM +0100, Dave Swegen wrote: > I've been considering packaging snes9x, and was just wondering whether it > had already been done. Yeah, they're done. the package names are snes9x-x, snes9x-svga and snes9x-server -- Stephen Crowley (Crow- on IRC) -- "Ambition is a p

Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:32:02AM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? > > > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > > things don't work. It sounds l

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 15 Oct 1998, Andy Mortimer wrote: > Also, another data point (and BTW, please don't think I'm being > defensive) is that last time I looked at it, apt still required a > fairly clean system to start with. Hopefully this has changed while > I've been out of touch. Try -f Jason

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Andy Mortimer
Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If there's a way of making multi CD installs work, then I'm all for it. > > One thing: Do people think it's important to keep the possibility of doing a > one CD install, and still ending up with a useful system ? "Useful" as in "boots", yes! But you

moving mutt-i from non-us to main

1998-10-15 Thread Marco d'Itri
Can I move mutt-i from non-us to main? There is no crypto code in the package, only SHA-1 (hash algorithm) and code to run pgp or gnupg. (Waiting to resolve this issue I haven't uploaded yet the stripped version to main, I hope Brian will let it slip past the freeze, there are no other differences

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Michael" == Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White Michael> wrote: Brian> libmagick4-dev 19332 libmagick: Brian> ldconfig-symlink-before-shlib-in-deb LI#67 [217] Brian> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott K. Ellis

e2fsprogs 1.12 into hamm ? (Was: Bug#27401: fsck.ext2 segfaults)

1998-10-15 Thread Yann Dirson
I originally meant this mail to deb-dev to get feedback about this issue, but it seems I did not. Winfried Truemper writes: > Package: e2fsprogs > Version: 1.10-17 > > > The version of fsck.ext2 segfaults in criticial cases (complete garbage on > the harddisk, left from a previous crash).

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > libmagick4-dev19332 libmagick: ldconfig-symlink-before-shlib-in-deb > LI#67 [217] ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott K. Ellis)) I wish I would understand a message like that. :-) > libpgjava 27753 libpgjava: depends on jdk1.1-r

Odd "build" behavior...

1998-10-15 Thread John Goerzen
Hi, I build packages with "build -rfakeroot". I get this: lincity_1.10-4_i386.changes 1.9 kB #, ok (1 s, 1.94 kB/s) announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED])... Unbalanced ')' Goerzen)... User unknown , failed ] -- Generating marker debian/RELEASED -- Package successfully released Mark Bug# 16416, me

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, > > Therefore, I don't think this is laptop installation problems in > general. I think that this may be specific to some laptops, but not all. > > -Seth Agree. If there were some Debian oriented database, where one could add his experience about installation of Debian on some unu

Re: octave-plplot: intention to package

1998-10-15 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Ola Joao, Thanks for your prompt reply. > "JC" == Joao Cardoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JC> I know nothing about copyrights, so I include none in the JC> sources. My intention is that plplot_octave could be available JC> in a future release of Octave, if Octave's author wants

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Seth M. Landsman
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 02:49:19PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: > > : Hi, > : > : > I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't > : > work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe >

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Richard Braakman
Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: > This is my fault, I should have had more time to fix this (move it > into non-free) with a new upload, but I don't know how to do this? File a > bug against ftp.debian.org? Just upload the package with section non-free/whatever, and it will be taken care of

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. binary-only NMUs breaks policity > 2. every NMU must be with source > 3. Porters needn't to ask maintainers for permission > 4. a NMU fixes bugs; no need to forward this to the BTS or the maintainer > > ok for all ? That would be a big

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. > I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... 2.x; we don't accept later stuff. -- James

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > binary-only MNU hits only one arch > > normal NMU hits possible all archs=20 > > A binary-only MNU violates the GPL, end of story. FUD, FUD, FUD and more FUD. The source changes for our binary-only NMUs are _always_ sent to the BTS. Also, please get over this GPL

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote: : Hi, : : > I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't : > work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe that : > the best thing that can be done to support laptops is to create boot

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen J. Carpenter
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 11:36:47AM -0700, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > > "Dave" == Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dave> Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de > Dave> facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a > Dave> number of people use 2.6.

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > vrwave23436 vrwave should maybe go in contrib? [124] (Javier > Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > xswallow 25932 Xswallow should be in contrib [55] (Javier > Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Debian 2.[01] -- Only rudimentary support for Laptops?

1998-10-15 Thread Alexander Kushnirenko
Hi, > I have an IBM ThinkPad 380XD. I have found that 2.0.x kernels just don't > work properly, my machine will crash or shutdown during boot. I believe that > the best thing that can be done to support laptops is to create boot disks > with 2.1.125 kernels. 2.1.125 works well on my laptop in e

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, David Welton wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > "What would you like to see on the first CD"? > > Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? [...] Good idea! -- "1df9795f6d2984efc8f37c0f0fda9b32" (a truly random

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread John Lapeyre
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Martin Alonso Soto wrote: masoto>to find anything wrong in the code. However, at a given time I added masoto>some printf statements to the code (to print certain values the masoto>debugger was not getting right) and the problem disappeared (!). Th

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:31:59PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > "What would you like to see on the first CD"? Why don't we look at what the most popular downloads have been? Some Perl/Python type person ought to be able to parse them nicely, include information about relative sizes of things,

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
Hi James, > Who said they were bad? They are very rarely necessary however, since > 99.5% of the time (the only exception I know of is Hartmut's packages) yes, my packages are the only one that test masters scripts for non-i386 maintainer source uploads. :-) This is now possible but it was not

Re: Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Dave" == Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de Dave> facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a Dave> number of people use 2.6... Debian uses 2.6 for now. 5 is a bit incompatible with other versions,

Re: Anyone packaging snes9x?

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Dave" == Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dave> I've been considering packaging snes9x, and was just Dave> wondering whether it had already been done. It's been done. :) -- Brought to you by the letters Q and Z and the number 1. "Ha ha! I have evaded you with the aid of th

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Philip Hands wrote: > Is something like ``Anything with a priority of extra gets put on the second > CD'' a reasonable guess ? Only in part. Some packages should definitely be on the first CD even if they are extra, namely the ones that are extra because they conflict with

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> If we call it something like a 'developer' release, or an 'early-access' > release, then it sounds like a great idea, yes... as long as people don't > get the impression that it is a full 2.1 release. Ok, under this impression powerpc is ready to go. I'll upload 2.1 kernel source and images

Which PGP?

1998-10-15 Thread Dave Swegen
Out of curiosity, which version of PGP is the debian de facto standard. I'm currently using v5, but I've seen a number of people use 2.6... Cheers Dave

Anyone packaging snes9x?

1998-10-15 Thread Dave Swegen
I've been considering packaging snes9x, and was just wondering whether it had already been done. Also, are there any developers in the Southampton (UK) area? I could do with someone to sign for me (no, I don't have access to a scanner). Cheers Dave

Re: octave-plplot: intention to package

1998-10-15 Thread Joao Cardoso
Rafael Laboissiere wrote: Hurrying before the slink freeze, here is my intention to package: ===  Package: octave-plplot  Version: 0.3-1  Section: math  Priority: optional  Architecture: i386  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u),

Re: latest sysklogd broken?

1998-10-15 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Michael" == Michael Sobolev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Michael> Same things happens to me. Today I upgraded two things Michael> sendmail and syslogd (what a coincidence! :). After few Michael> minutes I found that `ps ax' shows a lot of sendmail Michael> processes. Everyt

Re: Bug#26065: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:26:21PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > I'm still amazed by the development of strace.. basically it's a nightmare > to work on. Upstream version are _extremely_ rare and there are literaly > dozens of patches floating around, but nobody collects them. I think > Debian

Re: Bug#27823: proftpd: non-maintainer upload (alpha) diffs

1998-10-15 Thread Hartmut Koptein
Ok, let us a little bit summarize: 1. binary-only NMUs breaks policity 2. every NMU must be with source 3. Porters needn't to ask maintainers for permission 4. a NMU fixes bugs; no need to forward this to the BTS or the maintainer ok for all ? If the answer is 'yes' i agree !

Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts

1998-10-15 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:15:02AM -0700, Joel Klecker wrote: > At 12:30 +0200 1998-10-14, Paul Slootman wrote: > >On Mon 12 Oct 1998, Hartmut Koptein wrote: > >> :-) debian/i386 is also a port! > > > >No. For 90% (I think more) of the packages it is the primary architecture. > >The word "port"

Re: PGP question

1998-10-15 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 5:43 pm +0100 "Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hermes for mail (but you could use cus), with PGP support. Doh. Hermes *without* PGP support, I meant. /+---+-\ | Jelibean aka | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PGP question

1998-10-15 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 4:46 pm +0100 "M.C. Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a slight problem with PGP: I do my development on pick and can post > from there (but don't) - all my email is done from cus (and I'm not sure > if it can cope with PGP) > > So do I: > > po

Re: Slink not installable from CDs

1998-10-15 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:56:42PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Is something like ``Anything with a priority of extra gets put on the second > CD'' a reasonable guess ? or should we make a list of stuff to go on the > second CD based on some sensible criteria (if anyone can think of some > wit

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
Paul Slootman wrote: > > The last time I tried (about 10 sec. ago, on a.d.nl :-): > > make[2]: Entering directory `/extra/home/debian/psl/kernel/linux/drivers/net' > gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/extra/home/debian/psl/kernel/linux/include -Wall > -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:33:22PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > > Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Okay, everybody... It's that time again. I've gone through the bug logs > > and made my list of packages to keep/remove should they still have > > release-critical (i.e. critical, grave,

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Mitch Blevins
Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > > time limits on serial lines? > > > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > >

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Tom Lear
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: > On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > > > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > > time limits on serial lines? > > > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Ben Armstrong
On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? > > > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > > things don't work. It sounds like there will pro

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 09:33:22PM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff? Keep it in! > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development. The > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality. Lots of > things don't work. It sounds lik

Corporate Visibility for Linux

1998-10-15 Thread Bob Hilliard
The following is quoted from the column Business Bulletin on the front page of today's Wall Street journal, which is probably the most widely read newspaper by corporate America: 'FREEWARE' STIRS debate while entrepreneurs find a nice niche. Advocates prefer to call the free softwa

PGP question

1998-10-15 Thread M.C. Vernon
I have a slight problem with PGP: I do my development on pick and can post from there (but don't) - all my email is done from cus (and I'm not sure if it can cope with PGP) So do I: post from pick, and hope no-one sends me encrypted mail or what? I need to sort this out befo

Re: Deleting uncompressed Info/Doc files at upgrades

1998-10-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 2 October 1998, at 11 h 55, the keyboard of Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To me, a uncompressed version of a file is still the same file. > To me, copying an uncompressed info file to /usr/local/info *is* leaving > crud all over the disk. Yes, the current Debian system

Re: Gnome 0.30 fix?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Alonso Soto
Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have the same problem here. I spent a little time trying to debug > it, but never finished due to a lack of time. It might have something > to do with gtk and themes, but I'm not sure. Where are the segfaults happening? I found a pretty nasty one with the

Re: Screenshots (Re: gdselect alpha 3)

1998-10-15 Thread Nils Rennebarth
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 05:03:22PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > I was told recently that people might be interested in some screenshots > of the program. The following page contains three images. > > http://www.infodrom.north.de/~joey/Linux/Debian/gdselect.html Does anyone else has the problem

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 15 Oct 1998, Christopher C Chimelis wrote: > On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > There is one, MAJOR, huge, massive, 'program' which egcs will not > > properly compile, this is the kernel, 2.0.x is officially not going to > > operate 100% correctly when compiled with gcc 2.8.

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 15 Oct 1998, J.H.M. Dassen Ray" wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 01:50:33PM +0200, Paul Slootman wrote: > > I last compiled (with success) 2.0.36pre2 with "gcc version egcs-2.90.29 > > 980515 (egcs 1.0.3 release)" (according to /proc/version). That works > > perfectly with ISDN and all, and

Re: Closing bugs

1998-10-15 Thread Santiago Vila
On 14 Oct 1998, Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > Quick question: When two bugs are merged, do I need to close both > or will one closing close both, and send a message to both the > submittors? The documentation for the bug system says: [...] When reports are merged opening, closing, marking or unmark

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Paul Crowley
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > time limits on serial lines? > > i've hunted all over (even to the point of grepping every file in /etc, > /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin) for it and can't find it anywhere.

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Christian Meder
On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 11:49:59PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > --On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 12:14 am +0200 "Christian Meder" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 10:05:25AM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: > >> > "Brian" == Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> Bri

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 1:12 pm +0200 "Christian Meder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > * if there's a stabilized snapshot newbies will get (hopefully) a >> > softer introduction in the wonders of the Linux-Sparc/Powerpc/Arm/... >> world >> >> >> I see your argument. I'm worried that we might be

Re: login time limits in slink???

1998-10-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On 15 Oct 1998, Paul Crowley wrote: > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > anyone know what it is in slink which is enforcing idle-timeout and daily > > time limits on serial lines? > > I don't have this problem, and I haven't installed idled: > > Description: Idle Daemon. Removes id

Re: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> On Wed, Oct 14, 1998 at 12:19:30PM -0400, Brian White wrote: > > strace26065 strace confused about sigaction flags [51] > > (Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) > > Hmm. Why is this bug important anyway? I've looked at the bug report and > found no explanation. Darn. I downgra

Re: Upcoming 2.1 Release Architectures

1998-10-15 Thread Brian White
> > > Oh, i can generate a kernel-image_2.1.125-1_powerpc.deb along with source > > > and dsc files and upload it to master, but will you and the other arch > > > maintainer agree with this?? > > > > If it's a powerpc package only, I don't see why there would be a problem. > > It should get install

Re: Possible serious problem with the newest sysklogd?

1998-10-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Seth M. Landsman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:59:42PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > > Seth M. Landsman wrote: > > > Hmm, so I just updated the syslogd on my system yesterday (using > > > dselect, slink 2.1 i386 system). Then I stopped receiving mail completely > > > via qmail. About 4 h

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