Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there is no combined work until the source is compiled, linked to > > the non-free library, and a binary produced. > > Please show me where the GPL says this. > > I'm tired of pointing out this is false, quoting

Re: New maintainer for es, done right this time

1998-10-12 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Format: 1.5 > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:03:31 -0400 > Source: es > Binary: es > Architecture: source i386 > Version: 0.90beta1-3 > Distribution: unstable > Urgency: low > Maintainer: Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Description: > es - An extensible shell bas

Need some help determining which package owns a perl bug

1998-10-12 Thread Colin Telmer
A perl script called sync-plan included in pilot-link calls both MD5.pm (from the libmd5-perl package) and and PDA/Pilot.pm (from the pilot-link-perl package). Both of these live in /usr/lib/perl. However, when sync-plan is executed, the following error message appears: Can't locate PDA/Pilot.pm i

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:21:05PM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: > > anything more with it), but it seems to require gtk-- and gtk1.1, and > > the two don't seem to work together at this point. > > > > I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-su

Re: Java license problems?

1998-10-12 Thread Stephen Zander
> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Do we have some special permission to redistribute Java? John> From my reading of the license, we are not allowed to give John> it out to anybody else: John> 1. Limited License Grant. Sun grants to you ("Licensee") a

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone > enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? > > xadmin My package/program... Removed because it broke to many of the Debian guidelines, and I don't ha

Edits to Startup Disk Help

1998-10-12 Thread Marc Singer
I posted a patch to the boot-floppies package with changes to the help screen. Since I didn't get feedback on it I wonder if this is not the approved method of making changes to other people's packages. The edits, if you're interested, are on master master.debian.org/~elf/patches/boot-floppie

Re: office package

1998-10-12 Thread Yann Dirson
Carey Evans writes: > > What interface(s) does siag have ATM. I want to develop some gtk stuff > > (and more serious stuff than the virtual poohsticks) - so would this be > > something to cut my teeth on? > > Last time I looked, it was using Athena widgets, but I think the > author is lookin

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:45:35PM -0500, Havoc Pennington wrote: > On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Gnome support requires Gtk 1.1 from CVS, so if you want a 1.0-based > version you have to build it separately from the Gnome version. Mmmh. I mailed to the gtk-- mailing list for c

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Please also consider a src.deb package (look at pcmcia_cs > packages for example) that puts the sources in /usr/src/modules// > so that the sound module can be built when the kernel packages are > created by the user using kernel-package. Could you pl

Re: Perl policy for managing modules ?

1998-10-12 Thread Roderick Schertler
On 11 Oct 1998 21:14:40 -0500, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > "Raphael" == Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Because most of the perl modules will work with all coming >> version of perl. > > I guess I am confused. How do we know this? How can we be > certain that

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Havoc Pennington
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > Mmmh. I just checked. The reason why gtk-- is currently w/o gnome support > is, because I never installed libgnome-dev I think. I'm just doing it now > and will recompile gtk-- (or better: I'll try to compile gtk-- 0.9.17) with > gnome support. > > A

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread robbie
Hi Why are the sound modules not included with the kernel? Afaik they are in Redhat. Regards -- Robbie Murray

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: > > > > I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version > > > of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this? > > > Not really

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hello, On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: > Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Chris Waters wrote: > > > > I think it would really be nice to get a gnome-supporting version > > > of gtk-- in before the slink freeze. Is anyone working on this? > > > N

Re: Bug#27753: libpgjava: depends on jdk1.1-runtime, which is now included in jdk1.1

1998-10-12 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hamish> Why doesn't jdk1.1 provide java-virtual-machine? That's an Hamish> officially listed virtual package and would have avoided Hamish> this problem, and would also solve two bug reports filed Hamish> against guavac.

Re: GNotepad

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > Is anyone packing gnotepad? > > [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with > exim.conf and forgot to "unplay" the rewrite. ] Since nobody stepped forward, I take it for now. It in the process of being built right now. Regards, Joey --

Re: debian/rules and find

1998-10-12 Thread Rob Browning
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So please check your debian/rules files for constructs like the > following: > >chmod g+w `find debian/tmp -name foo` > >find debian/tmp -name foo|xargs chmod g+w > > the correct way to implement this would be > >find debian/

Re: Local IP address / Java Incompatibility

1998-10-12 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 04:18:54PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian > 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out, if it is a bug in Debian Linux > or JDK? You have to use getLocalHost() on a connected Socket, not on InetA

Re: updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread Philipp Frauenfelder
Hi James A. Treacy wrote: > One thing I forgot to mention to you. Could you please add the > final / on directories? It is proper to add them, but not > mandatory. Additionally it confuses the urlchecker I use (yeah > I'll fix it eventually). I have already fixed the occurrences > of devel/ and go

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Rob Browning
Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Grr, after I uploaded it I've found emacs20 *source* package already > contains all the LEIM data files, so I removed the uploaded leim > package. > > I think the best solution would be to produce leim binary package from > the emacs20 source package.

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Rob Browning
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But I get these errors: > > In file included from /usr/include/g++-2/stl_rope.h:2107, > from /usr/include/g++-2/rope.h:18, > from blah.cc:1: > /usr/include/g++-2/ropeimpl.h:1085: warning: decimal integer constant is so > large

Thoughts on installation

1998-10-12 Thread Dave Swegen
First of all a quick apology if it turns out the following message isn't being posted to the correct forum. A few weeks ago I switched from RH to debian, and was slightly dismayed at the installation process, which I found to be less than flexible. After wrestling with it for some six-seven hours

Re: gnome and gtk--

1998-10-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Chris" == Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Chris> Perhaps I'm missing something, but I don't see any way of Chris> using gtk-- with gnome at the moment. I was going to try Chris> packaging gnome-hack (for my own use -- I'd want to check Chris> with the nethack maint

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Milan Zamazal
Grr, after I uploaded it I've found emacs20 *source* package already contains all the LEIM data files, so I removed the uploaded leim package. I think the best solution would be to produce leim binary package from the emacs20 source package. Rob, could you do so in the next version of the emacs20

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks > okay to me. Yeah. With that first sentence in, I think he'd argue that he doesn't need anyone's permission to apply it to third-party GPLed software: he's declaring what the GPL

Re: problem with new icewm

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: > I installed both packages. After starting X I found that the old name is no > longer the one compiled for gnome which removed all my applets from the > panel. > I changed my setup to call icewm-gnome instead and re-created my > panels but had to notice

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? > > Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that > Ulrich Depper didn't include n

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 06:13:33PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > gnome-mico > gnome-mico-dev Replaced by an ORB written by the GNOME folks themselves, "orbit". Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISH

Re: problem with new icewm

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: > I installed both packages. After starting X I found that the old name is no > longer the one compiled for gnome which removed all my applets from the > panel. I changed my setup to call icewm-gnome instead and re-created my > panels but had to notice that the panel applet no

Re: Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: > xadmin Request by maintainer=author, iirc. > x11amp-static > mp3.8hz You didn't watch the 100 messages thread on debian-private? Regards, Joey -- Linux - the choice of a GNU generation

Re: Intent to package: smtpfeed and sendmail-wide

1998-10-12 Thread Fumitoshi UKAI
At Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:02:06 -0400 (EDT), Richard A Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hrm... > The requested URL /~monotori/sendmail.html was not found on this server. Oops, sorry, it's typo. The URL should be http://www.wide.ad.jp/~motonori/sendmail.html > Is there somewhere else I can look?

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 12:25:12PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > How can we be sure that LyX does not include things not written by them? Wait a moment. Don't let this become ridiculous. How can we be sure that Ulrich Depper didn't include non-GPL stuff in his glibc? You can ask this ofr every

Packages that disappeared

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
I noticed that some packages disappeared from the site. Could anyone enlighten me whether they are superceeded, not needed or whatelse happend? libstdc++2.8 libg++2.8 I know these are special cases since there is no source. But as long as we need the libs we need the packages, don

problem with new icewm

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
I installed both packages. After starting X I found that the old name is no longer the one compiled for gnome which removed all my applets from the panel. I changed my setup to call icewm-gnome instead and re-created my panels but had to notice that the panel applet no longer works. Not only does i

Re: updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread James A. Treacy
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 11:09:34AM -0700, Darren Benham wrote: > Also, developers_corner.wml has been moved/renamed to devel/index.wml (also > affecting templage/debian/menubar.wml and template/debian/navbar.wml as well > as > one of the news files in News/1997 (19971125.wml) > One thing I forgo

Re: GPL source policy.

1998-10-12 Thread john
Masato Taruishi writes: > In this, the licence sait that `valid for at least three years', but I > can't understand what date the beginnings of `at least three years' > starts actually from. From the date when the vendor began to sell it, or > when buyers bought it, or else? >From the moment the v

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread john
Jim writes: > So this isn't "derivative" in the sense of the OOP idiom "IS-A"... > and you're saying that all I have to do to "derive from" something, is to > include it unmodified or modified? In copyright law "is a derivative of" means "contains a copy of all or part of". Copyright is about ma

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> people to distribute LyX in both source and binary forms. This permission > certainly includes linking against GUI toolkits like XForms, Motif, GTK, Qt > or Win32. `... and distributing the resulting binary.' should be added. You can always link in the privacy of your home. What GPL for

RE: updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread Darren Benham
On 12-Oct-98 James A. Treacy wrote: > This is just to help translators keep up to date with changes to the > Debian pages. > > - distrib/distrib.wml was renamed to distrib/index.wml >This caused changes to template/debian/menubar.wml > and template/debian/navbar.wml > >

Re: A Detailed Analysis of the GPL For KDE/QT

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Konold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Programs linked to GPL'd library must be GPL, because by using the > GPL'd library you have to comply to the license terms of this library. > The main point is that USING a GPL'd library for a program is only > allowed if the resulting program becomes GPL'

Re: GNotepad

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Ole J. Tetlie wrote: > Is anyone packing gnotepad? > > [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with > exim.conf and forgot to "unplay" the rewrite. ] wget + ./configure + vi src/main.c + make just finished. It looks nice, it seems to work. We should include it. However

GNotepad

1998-10-12 Thread Ole J. Tetlie
Is anyone packing gnotepad? [ Sorry if anyone tried to a post of mine and bounced. I played with exim.conf and forgot to "unplay" the rewrite. ] -- Eschew obfuscation(go on; look them both up) (Brian White) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-: .elOle. :-] [EMAIL PROTE

Re: exim really does need to be the standard MTA in slink

1998-10-12 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I personally have confidence in Exim's quality in this regard. >Demon (a large ISP in the UK and the Netherlands, www.demon.net) >uses Exim as its customer-facing smtp interface, so I guess that they're >convinced as well. To be precise, we use Exim for

Re: A Detailed Analysis of the GPL For KDE/QT

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Konold
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Finally, if a library wasn't a part of the program as a whole, what's > the point of the LGPL? You seem to mix things up again. Programs linked to GPL'd library must be GPL, because by using the GPL'd library you have to comply to the license terms of th

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Russell Coker
>> > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to >> > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx >> > > with XForms. >> > > [...] >> > >> > I don't think so. It is not enough for KDE, why should it be enough for >> > LyX ? >> >> It's not en

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit > > yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. > > > > Make them 5 times bigger and yes then its worth it. Martin Konold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wrong! If you are not

updates to Debian pages

1998-10-12 Thread James A. Treacy
This is just to help translators keep up to date with changes to the Debian pages. - distrib/distrib.wml was renamed to distrib/index.wml This caused changes to template/debian/menubar.wml and template/debian/navbar.wml I believe those are the only links affected, but

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Alan Cox
> Just threadening with sueing is simply an action of FUD. I haven't threatened to sue anyone. You must have been listening to Matthais foaming at the mouth too much. > Sorry for my harsh words. But it looks to me like some people are trying > to keep kde people from making even better free soft

Re: sendmail & libc6 [was: Squid2, how to handle incompatible upgrade]

1998-10-12 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> #27334: libc6: breaks sendmail, probably problem in resolver >> details at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/27/27334.html >> This is release-critical, IMO. > >I agree this is release criti

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Konold
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > Alan: This is a perfect example of FUD! > >SuSE has the biggest rate of growth of all Linux distributors in > >the US. > > And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit > yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Guenter" == Guenter Geiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Guenter> What about providing a modularized, precompiled OSS package Guenter> and a sound installation tool ? Please also consider a src.deb package (look at pcmcia_cs packages for example) that puts the sources in /usr/src

Re: Local IP address / Java Incompatibility

1998-10-12 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Yes, it works now! Thanks. Could anybody think of negative implications of doing this reverse ordering of the localhost and ip address entries? > Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > > > We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian > > 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to fin

LyX & KDE

1998-10-12 Thread
I might be able to get a similar license agreement for KDE as the one I send for LyX. Would that be enough to get at least major parts of KDE back on the site? I have no idea how much we would have to keep out. I know kghostview and kdvi, but other than that? Since I use Gnome I cannot simply ch

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Alan Cox
> Alan: This is a perfect example of FUD! No >SuSE has the biggest rate of growth of all Linux distributors in >the US. And SuSE and Red Hat and all of them put together are not worth a US lawsuit yet. Price yourself a US lawsuit then judge again. Make them 5 times bigger and ye

Local IP address / Java Incompatibility

1998-10-12 Thread Rainer Dorsch
We found an incompatibility between Java on Solaris 2.5.1/2.6 and on Debian 2.0.r2 Could anybody suggest how to find out, if it is a bug in Debian Linux or JDK? Additions to the included bug report: - $ hostname -i 129.69.183.3 gives the correct answer in a shell. - Debian 2.0 comes with

Re: I2O specs mailed to webmaster

1998-10-12 Thread Thomas Lakofski
On 12 Oct 1998, Gregory S. Stark wrote: > On the off chance that the original sender is reading this, or looking at the > e-mail archive: Hotmail is not an anonymous mailing system, and makes no > pretense of such. They will happily hand over records if needed. Equally the information you supply

September LJ

1998-10-12 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Hi all and sorry for the "SPAM"... but I just read my Spetember issue of the Linux Journal and I noted that on page 6 the Editor says: This is one reason we choose the Debian distribution to use in our office. ^^ that's US!

Antwort: Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread
>looks good to me, with or without the first sentence. For me too. >it's true, anyway. the GPL is often a source of misunderstanding and >confusion. witness KDE, for example. Yes, your right. But I think this sentence doens´t fit well into a license file. >if ettrich is willing to write

Re: copyright problem

1998-10-12 Thread
Okay, Matthias also agrees with my version. Let´s see if the other LyX guys say. Could we get this into the LyX package ASAP? Who´s in charge now? Mark? Michael -- Weitergeleitet von Mummert&Partner MeskesM/D/ExternalStaff/WLB on 12.10.98 16:02 ---

Re: sendmail & libc6 [was: Squid2, how to handle incompatible upgrade]

1998-10-12 Thread peloy
Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>The only pain I had to face was that I had to upgrade my libc6 and >>that upgrade broke sendmail, so I had to upgrade sendmail as well. > > Uh - oh .. please check out this bug: > >

Re: I2O specs mailed to webmaster

1998-10-12 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > it was mailed from a dummy hotmail account ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and the > originating IP was from an ISP in Norway. On the off chance that the original sender is reading this, or looking at the e-mail archive: Hotmail is not an anonymous mailing system

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there is no combined work until the source is compiled, linked to the > non-free library, and a binary produced. Please show me where the GPL says this. I'm tired of pointing out this is false, quoting from the GPL to show you were it says different, and

GPL source policy.

1998-10-12 Thread Masato Taruishi
Hi, There is a section from GPL: b) Accompany it with a written offer, valid for at least three years, to give any third party, for a charge no more than your cost of physically performing source distribution, a complete machine-readable copy of the corresponding source code, to

Re: Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 01:51:24PM -0700, Guenter Geiger wrote: > The current way to add sound support on Debian is either installing the > kernel-source and compiling OSS > or installing the ALSA packages. > > What about providing a modularized, precompiled OSS package and a sound > installatio

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 09:13:44AM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 12:09:15PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > There's probably plenty of other problematic packages in contrib too, > > as Raul has been telling us for a while. www-mysql, for example, > > although it'll move in

Re: Electric VLSI Design System now open source!

1998-10-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 09:27:07AM -0700, Dan Kegel wrote: > I am pleased to announce that the "Electric VLSI Design System" is now > available to anyone who wishes to use it. Unless someone has beaten me to it I will attempt to package it asap (which could be a couple of weeks). Sounds very good

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > KDE requires Qt currently. So KDE is non free. [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > _No_. This does not necessarily follow, even if both statements may > both be true. KDE simply depends on something that is non-free. Except that KDE programs hav

Re: dpkg config files in /etc ?

1998-10-12 Thread Ilya L Ovchinnikov
On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 12:47:09PM -0400, Stephen J. Carpenter wrote: > On Thu, Oct 08, 1998 at 11:48:08AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > "Thomas Gebhardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > the configuration files of all debian packages are located in /etc. > > > That's really fine.

Re: PROPOSAL: one debian list for all porting efforts

1998-10-12 Thread Hartmut Koptein
> > to increase communication betweenm the ports and between porters and > > non-porters, I'd propose a new list: > > > > debian-porting > > or sim. > > I fully support this proposal (The name debian-porting seems fine to me) No, we haven't enough topics for this new list. > IMHO, it makes senc

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Raul Miller
Craig Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > note that there is also an exemption for libraries which normally come > with the operating system - and libc definitely qualifies there... Nope. Some of the time, libc would qualify for that special excemption. But it doesn't qualify for anything shippe

RE: lesstif

1998-10-12 Thread Guenter Geiger
Same for me, snd doesn´t work with current lesstif version Guenter

Intend to package, create OSS/Free

1998-10-12 Thread Guenter Geiger
Hi there ! The current way to add sound support on Debian is either installing the kernel-source and compiling OSS or installing the ALSA packages. What about providing a modularized, precompiled OSS package and a sound installation tool ? This sound installation tool should use isapnp to dete

Re: [ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: > How about this one? > > I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks > okay to me. looks good to me, with or without the first sentence. it's true, anyway. the GPL is often a source of misunderstanding and confusion.

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Schulze
Michael Meskes wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: > > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > > with XForms. > > > > I don't see how it follows. "

Re: KDE hurts Qt (LICENSES)

1998-10-12 Thread Martin Konold
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: Dear Alan, > What you have to remember is this. > > SuSE are currently too small to be worth sueing in the US > on a licensing issue. Ditto most (all ?) other current > distributors > > I'm not trying to belittle people like SuSE quite the

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 11:18:53PM +0200, Bart Schuller wrote: > Because *implicit* permission isn't good enough. By default *nothing* is > allowed. So every right the authors grant you had better be written down > in a license accompanying the software, otherwise one of the authors (or > sometimes

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 12:09:15PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > There's probably plenty of other problematic packages in contrib too, > as Raul has been telling us for a while. www-mysql, for example, > although it'll move in to main once I reupload it (since mysql-base > is in main now). I idn'

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 04:07:31PM +, Raja R Harinath wrote: > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > with XForms. > > I don't see how it follows. "we have implicitly allowed all use

[ettrich@troll.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
How about this one? I told him I would remove the first sentence but other than that it looks okay to me. Michael - Forwarded message from Matthias Ettrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - If we do something like this, I'd rather suggest a text like: The GPL is often a source of missunderstandin

GnomeCar

1998-10-12 Thread Michael Meskes
Anyone working on this? I just saw the a screenshot that looks nice. But since its source is only in cvs I cannot simply try it. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes | Th.-Heuss-Str. 61, D-41812 Erkelenz | Go SF49ers! Senior-Consultant | business: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Go Rhein Fire! Mummert+Pa

Re: [larsbj@ifi.uio.no: Re: copyright problem]

1998-10-12 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 10:52:19PM +0200, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > > [...] > > > I agree that by using XForms in development, and XForms *is* needed to > > > compile and run LyX, we have implicitly allowd all users to link Lyx > > > with XForms. > > >

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Christophe Broult
Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Is there any technical reason why LEIM (Emacs input methods) is not > >> available as a Debian package? If not, I'll package it. > > >FWIW It's already part of the emacs20 package. Something is missin

Intent to package: ada-rm

1998-10-12 Thread Samuel Tardieu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- ada-rm is a set of documentation containing the Ada 95 reference manual, the Rationale and the changes with Ada 83. Sam - -- Samuel Tardieu -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: latin1 iQCVAwUBNiHEu4FdzKExeYBpAQFpOgP9H

Electric VLSI Design System now open source!

1998-10-12 Thread Dan Kegel
Saw the following on http://slashdot.org. Sounds like very good news. - Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1998/10/10 Newsgroups: alt.electronics.analog.vlsi, can.vlsi, comp.lsi, comp.lsi.cad, cu.vlsi I am pleased to announce that the "Electric VLSI Design System" is now available to anyone wh

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-12 Thread John Lapeyre
On 11 Oct 1998, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote: torin>Andy Dougherty, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: torin>>After some thought, I think I'd recommend that perl5.005_xx retain the torin>>same directory structure that perl5.00[34]_xx did. (with 5.005 in place of torin>>5.00[34], of c

Re: KDE gone, Lyx next ?

1998-10-12 Thread John Lapeyre
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Shaya Potter wrote: spotte> spotte>-Original Message- spotte>From: John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spotte> spotte>> Lyx is currently in contrib. spotte>> Lyx is licensed under the GPL (version 2) . It is dynamically spotte>>linked against a non-free library (libforms

Re: [conrad@srl.caltech.edu: ANNOUNCE: Fulcrum scientific plotting tool update]

1998-10-12 Thread John Lapeyre
On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: joey>I wonder if somebody plans to package this one. joey> joey> Fulcrum Scientific Analysis/Plotting Tool for Unix/GTK I am swamped right now. But , I'll try to do it if no one else wants to. I wonder if this is a new incarnation of

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Paul Slootman
On Mon 12 Oct 1998, Chris Leishman wrote: > On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:24:49AM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: > > > > > void main(void) > > > > > > > > BTW, main returns int, not void. See the comp.lang.c FAQ for the bit of > > the C standard that defines this - main is incorrectly said to return vo

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Chris Leishman
On Mon, Oct 12, 1998 at 08:24:49AM +0100, M.C. Vernon wrote: > > > void main(void) > > > > BTW, main returns int, not void. See the comp.lang.c FAQ for the bit of > the C standard that defines this - main is incorrectly said to return void > in a number of texts though. > > HTH, > > Matthew >

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread M.C. Vernon
> void main(void) BTW, main returns int, not void. See the comp.lang.c FAQ for the bit of the C standard that defines this - main is incorrectly said to return void in a number of texts though. HTH, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn Col

Re: dbugging dselect

1998-10-12 Thread M.C. Vernon
On Sun, 11 Oct 1998, David Stern wrote: > install attempt in dselect error message: > - > [..unmet dependencies, blah, blah.. ] > dependencies: > perl-suid: Depends:perl > libpam0: Depends:libpam0g > perl: Depends:perl-base I missed the

Re: Intent to package LEIM

1998-10-12 Thread Milan Zamazal
>Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Is there any technical reason why LEIM (Emacs input methods) is not >> available as a Debian package? If not, I'll package it. >FWIW It's already part of the emacs20 package. I'd say including LEIM data *.elc files is worth. I think it's difficult

Re: Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Chris
Sorry to follow myself up so quickly, but I found the fault. The ropeimpl.h file is in error complared to the version from SGI's STL. Here's the diff: --- ropeimpl.h.orig Mon Oct 12 14:18:53 1998 +++ ropeimpl.h Mon Oct 12 14:17:25 1998 @@ -1082,7 +1082,7 @@ /* 35 */24157817, /* 36 */39088

Ropes in stl (was Re: lack of wstring in libstdc++2.8-dev)

1998-10-12 Thread Chris
On Sun, Oct 11, 1998 at 01:42:20PM +, Rob Browning wrote: > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > See http://www.sgi.com/Technology/STL for the current STL implementation. > > And see > > http://www.sgi.com/Technology/STL/string_discussion.html > > for why you should probably be using

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread jim
> > If I use libc, I don't think I am creating a libc. Unless I am, I'm not > > deriving, I think. If I use libc, I simply use the services. Hence, libc > > is "a section of" the thing I am making, and does not derive from it. > > Your program derives from libc by being linked with it. This is pr

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 12 Oct 1998, Alan Cox wrote: > > If I use libc, I don't think I am creating a libc. Unless I > > am, I'm not deriving, I think. If I use libc, I simply use the > > services. Hence, libc is "a section of" the thing I am making, and > > does not derive from it. > > Your program derives from

Re: Perl 5.005.02

1998-10-12 Thread cfm
My $.02 on this - and this is only personal feedback- is that perl -MCPAN -e shell is even easier than apt-get. So I maintain a perl5.tgz with our various modules from CPAN already installed and whenever debian blows away our perl on any particular machine we just unpack it from our local distri

Re: Finding a source package

1998-10-12 Thread Guy Maor
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Guy Maor wrote: > > I'm suggesting that dpkg-scanpackages scan the dscs and put the > > section and version in the Source field, or perhaps add a new field > > Dsc which is simply the full path to the dsc, akin to the Filename > > field. Then downloading th

Re: LICENSES [was: Re: Have you seen this?]

1998-10-12 Thread Alan Cox
> If I use libc, I don't think I am creating a libc. Unless I am, I'm not > deriving, I think. If I use libc, I simply use the services. Hence, libc > is "a section of" the thing I am making, and does not derive from it. Your program derives from libc by being linked with it. This is precisely why

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