RSync

1998-05-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Are there any alternatives to rsync that don't use as much memory? andrew 21911 0.6 19.5 24596 12252 ? S12:05 1:49 rsync That's prettty high (and I've seen higher).. I think I will email the author. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Dependencies problem

1998-05-04 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hi, my package ncpfs provides a shared library (libncp). When trying to build using dpkg-buildpackage, debstd gives several errors about not being able to find dependencies for the binaries in the package. The problem goes away if I provide a shlibs.local file like this: libncp 1 ncpfs (>=

Re: Time to say goodbye...

1998-05-04 Thread Craig Sanders
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Michael Meskes wrote: > Jim Pick writes: > > I must admit, I've been entirely negligent in following the policy > > discussions - due to lack of time, I've skipped them entirely. > > Me too. > > > I suspect that most of the other "older" maintainers are the same way > > - the

Re: bug #21739 - xfstt -- comments?

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 11:28:20AM -0400, Stephen Carpenter wrote: > I have been working on the xfstt package to take it over. Until a few > days ago there was only one bug of "Wishlist" priority filed against > it which is now ready to close as soon as I am able to upload > files (ie am finished r

Trying to contact wrl@gandalf.wconsult.com

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
I'm having a problem sending mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], the host name doesn't have an MX record, and appears to have a dynamic ip address. The mail relay being used (mail.rdu.bellsouth.net) also doesn't appear to know anything about this host name. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PR

Re: not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 01:52:25AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > I expect that everyone who has sent email to debian-devel this > > weekend will have been unsubscribed. > > [Er... probably not everyone: the "too many bounces" mechanism > probably won't knock off people who posted just a few times.

Re: Uploaded less 332-2.1 (source i386) to master

1998-05-04 Thread Darren/Torin/Who Ever...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Joel Klecker, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote: > less (332-2.1) frozen unstable; urgency=high > . > * Non-maintainer release. I had thought I had uploaded this but I don't see it anywhere on master. I guess it was part of the master problem? Exp

Re: Bug#20914: seyon package copyright (fwd)

1998-05-04 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seems to me that we have accepted non-modified source as DFSG compliant > > as long as modified binaries are not restricted. > > We allow exceptions to point 3, as long as point 4 is satisfied > (explicit perm

Re: Bug#20914: seyon package copyright (fwd)

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me that we have accepted non-modified source as DFSG compliant > as long as modified binaries are not restricted. We allow exceptions to point 3, as long as point 4 is satisfied (explicit permission to distribute software built from modified so

Re: Apt is cool (yay!) - What about bo?

1998-05-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > Hi! > > Just installed apt_0.0.8. My impression is that it is significantly faster > than dpkg-ftp. Could be pyschological, though ;) No, it probably is. It advoids alot of the time consuming steps, read the status file faster, and with HTTP downloads f

Re: Bug#20914: seyon package copyright (fwd)

1998-05-04 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Mon, 4 May 1998, Raul Miller wrote: > Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm happy that we can work with this license, as we distribute diffs. > > Thomas thinks otherwise. Thoughts? > > This license conflicts with point 3 of DFSG. We can't distribute > modified versions under the s

Re: Bug#20914: seyon package copyright (fwd)

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm happy that we can work with this license, as we distribute diffs. > Thomas thinks otherwise. Thoughts? This license conflicts with point 3 of DFSG. We can't distribute modified versions under the same terms as the original. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Bug#20914: seyon package copyright (fwd)

1998-05-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Forwarded to debian-devel to see what other people think. ] The copyright for seyon says: == Seyon is Copyright (c) 1992 of Muhammad M. Saggaf. Seyon is not public domain. Permission is granted to use and distribute Seyon

Re: Packages marked as Obsolete

1998-05-04 Thread James Troup
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > *** interpre Opt blt2 2.1-6 > Superseded by blt4.2, presumably. > *** non-free Xtr ckermit 192-5 > In project/orphaned, don't know why. Seems to be missin

../dists/slink/main/binary-i386/Packages is empty

1998-05-04 Thread Douglas Bates
Sorry if this has already been discussed but I have been away for a week and off the list. I notice that the Packages file for slink/main/binary-i386 is empty whereas binary-alpha, binary-powerpc, and binary-sparc all look as I would expect them to. Is this a subtle hint that I should switch arch

Re: MDA's was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 03.05.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Sendmail configuration is tough but it is also the best documented > >> MTA bar none! Raul>> Please don't

Re: Packages marked as Obsolete

1998-05-04 Thread Michael Meskes
Manoj Srivastava writes: > picons packages (why are they marked obsolete)? What about ckermit? Yes, I need a kermit, too. > *** ?? sambades 1.9.17p2-1 This one is really obsolete since samba contains the relevant code now. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project

Intention to package UMB-Scheme

1998-05-04 Thread Fulgham, Brent/SCO
Does anyone object if I package UMB-Scheme (yet another scheme distribution...). This package is needed if you want to play with much of the Gnome-Project stuff... -Brent > -Original Message- > From: Dirk Eddelbuettel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 9:53 AM > To: D

Intention to adopt auto-pgp

1998-05-04 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
The auto-pgp package has been touched since November 1995, and has currently seven open bugs filed against it. If nobody objects, I will adopt auto-pgpt by uploading a version which corrects the 7 bugs and updates the package from Debian 1.1 to Debian 2.0 standards. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkb-buildpackage errors

1998-05-04 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 04:35:28PM +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a wrote: > Anybody knows why dpkg-buildpackage jumps with a: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/hello/hello-1.3# dpkg-buildpackage > no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME ("root") at > /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. >

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You suddenly seem to be arguing that policy never be amended > since we may just be screwing it up. Er... no. Not even close. Later, -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> The issue isn't trust. The issue is understanding. I think I am willing to give new maintainers the benfit of doubt as to whether they can excercise enough judgment to know if they understand a subject well enough to go and

Re: dpkb-buildpackage errors

1998-05-04 Thread Shaleh
This may not be your problem, but when I get this error it means I am in the debian/ directory and not in the root of the package. i.e imlib-1.3/debian instead of imlib-1.3. Or in some other subdirectory. When the builder statrs it looks in ./debian/{changelog,rules,control} so if you are in de

Re: bug #21739 - xfstt -- comments?

1998-05-04 Thread Shaleh
what about /usr/share/ttf or /usr/share/ttfonts. My understanding is that /usr/share is for any architecture independent data. This seems appropriate. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dpkb-buildpackage errors

1998-05-04 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
Anybody knows why dpkg-buildpackage jumps with a: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/hello/hello-1.3# dpkg-buildpackage no utmp entry available, using value of LOGNAME ("root") at /usr/lib/dpkg/controllib.pl line 16. parsechangelog/debian: error: unable to open substvars file debian/substvars: No ex

Re: Copyright of fontinst.

1998-05-04 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 4 May 1998, Federico Di Gregorio wrote: > Hi, > some time ago I expressed the intent to package fontinst > (a TeX/LaTeX package). I asked the author about the licence > and here's what I got. It is not DFSG but we *do* have latex > in tetex. So is

bug #21739 - xfstt -- comments?

1998-05-04 Thread Stephen Carpenter
I have been working on the xfstt package to take it over. Until a few days ago there was only one bug of "Wishlist" priority filed against it which is now ready to close as soon as I am able to upload files (ie am finished registering as a debian package maintainer et al) It now makes a pid file in

Re: Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Jules Bean
--On Mon, May 4, 1998 4:09 pm +0200 "Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 03:43:00PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: >> >> I assume the point is that it will only execute applications listed in >> /etc/mailcap, which is fine. [chomp] > It doesn't touch

Re: Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 03:43:00PM +0100, Jules Bean wrote: > > I assume the point is that it will only execute applications listed in > /etc/mailcap, which is fine. > > He didn't provide a URL, so I can't check.. > > Jules > > Sorry, I forgot. Im putting up a checksite at ftp

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul> You honestly think this is good enough for new developers? I > Raul> must confess that I'm not really in touch with the sort of > Raul> things they would think. > > Of course. You gotta trust people some time. I think we give > folks the

Re: Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 03:22:42PM +0100, Martin Read wrote: > Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a writes: > This sounds distressingly like a serious security hole - unless it refuses > requests resembling "xterm -e foo". It's not quite as bad as "xhost +", > I'll admit, but it does sound like a majo

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Kenneth . Scharf
>I'm collecting names of those who have either emailled me or mentioned >interest in seeing Debian a little easier on the novice user (but without >getting annoying to the experienced user!) and will be in the next day or >two trying to see if maybe we can get some projects organized to make Debia

Re: Packages marked as Obsolete

1998-05-04 Thread Martin Schulze
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 09:44:41AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > While we are talking about obsolete packages, what is the > story on these? I mean, I would not like to just remove all the > picons packages (why are they marked obsolete)? What about ckermit? > How many of these ar

Re: Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Stephen Carpenter
Martin Read wrote: > Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a writes: > > Xswallow is a plugin for Netscape that allows ANY X-based application > > tu run inside Netscape. This allows you to run a VRML browser > > (vrwave,vrweb..) or > > a midi application inside Netscape without having to expressel

Packages marked as Obsolete

1998-05-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, While we are talking about obsolete packages, what is the story on these? I mean, I would not like to just remove all the picons packages (why are they marked obsolete)? What about ckermit? How many of these are actually obsolete, and how many just have been yanked from hamm? -

Re: Apt is cool (yay!) - What about bo?

1998-05-04 Thread Jules Bean
--On Mon, May 4, 1998 3:39 pm +0100 "James Troup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Should the first two have been "Replaces: "'ed by their successors? > > Package: timezones > [...] > Conflicts: timezone > Replaces: timezone > > Package: locales > [...

Re: Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Jules Bean
--On Mon, May 4, 1998 3:22 pm +0100 "Martin Read" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a writes: >> Xswallow is a plugin for Netscape that allows ANY X-based application >> tu run inside Netscape. This allows you to run a VRML browser (vrwave,vrweb..) or >> a midi appli

Re: Apt is cool (yay!) - What about bo?

1998-05-04 Thread Jules Bean
--On Mon, May 4, 1998 6:38 am -0700 "Joel Klecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 12:24 +0100 1998-05-04, Jules Bean wrote: >>The following packages on my system are in bo but not in hamm: >> >>--- Obsolete and local packages present on system --- >>- Obsolete/local Required packages

link

1998-05-04 Thread CPL_DIAL08
X-URL: mailto:debian-devel@lists.debian.org X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.4-FM X-Personal_name: Sam X-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you please send me a link to download debian. I have looked for 3hrs. Please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I would be willing to say that we leave determination of the point >> when following policy is detrimental to the package to the >> maintainers themselves; so Dale could decide that strip

Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Martin Read
Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a writes: > Xswallow is a plugin for Netscape that allows ANY X-based application > tu run inside Netscape. This allows you to run a VRML browser > (vrwave,vrweb..) or > a midi application inside Netscape without having to expressely save to disk > and then run

Re: Apt is cool (yay!) - What about bo?

1998-05-04 Thread Joel Klecker
At 12:24 +0100 1998-05-04, Jules Bean wrote: >The following packages on my system are in bo but not in hamm: > >--- Obsolete and local packages present on system --- >- Obsolete/local Required packages - >--- Obsolete/local Required packages in section base --- > *** Req

Intent to package Xswallow

1998-05-04 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino Pen~a
Xswallow is a plugin for Netscape that allows ANY X-based application tu run inside Netscape. This allows you to run a VRML browser (vrwave,vrweb..) or a midi application inside Netscape without having to expressely save to disk and then run it aside. It works with tags and /etc/mime.ty

Re: What's the storywith 2.0?

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am a bit frustrated with hamm right now. As of just before hamm went from > 'unstable' to 'frozen' almost every upgrade on my PC box 'breaks something'. > I was literally 'spoiled' by the fact that during the last 6+ months of > development under unstable

Re: fetchmail/procmail was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread wrl
'From Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 04:19:31AM +, Rev. Joseph Carter wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 11:40:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > We are probably wasting everyone's time now by not looking to see just what > > fetchmail/procmail interface actually i

Re: What's the storywith 2.0?

1998-05-04 Thread Bill Leach
I am one of those 'not a developer, hamm users'. I have been using 1PC type and three 68k type Debian hamm boxes since sometime around the middle of last year. I am a bit frustrated with hamm right now. As of just before hamm went from 'unstable' to 'frozen' almost every upgrade on my PC box 'b

Re: Run away TCSH

1998-05-04 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Mark W. Eichin wrote: > someone on tcsh-dev found that bug - I sent in the particular patch as > a bug report, but haven't heard anything (on this or on the > history-lines 2*longer than the buffer problem either, though I > haven't dug through and sent that upstream myself...) TCSH was orphaned fo

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raul> I've mostly agreed with (Buddha and Philip's) statement you > Raul> quoted a few days ago which talks about what to do when policy > Raul> doesn't apply properly. I think it has a weakness: in creating > Raul> the rules for how "debian-policy" is

Re: Run away TCSH

1998-05-04 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
G John Lapeyre wrote: > Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > > > I recall there being a discussion on this some time ago, I just noticed on > > master, > Luis tried to upload a fix (from a debian maintainer) to chiark, > but it got lost. I can't find it. Luis inquired about it a while ago and > was i

Re: not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Martin Schulze
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 07:34:10AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SmartList removes addresses after it has received 4 bounces per list > > per address. Sometimes it's confused though. > > I take it, SmartList isn't using VERP but is instead trying to >

Re: not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SmartList removes addresses after it has received 4 bounces per list > per address. Sometimes it's confused though. I take it, SmartList isn't using VERP but is instead trying to decipher the bounce message? -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Apt is cool (yay!) - What about bo?

1998-05-04 Thread Jules Bean
Hi! Just installed apt_0.0.8. My impression is that it is significantly faster than dpkg-ftp. Could be pyschological, though ;) The default apt sources.list doesn't include a reference to bo - and in any case, since we're undergoing a symlink transition, I haven't been had bo in my dselect for

New maintainer acception partially stalled

1998-05-04 Thread Martin Schulze
Hi folks, I'm sorry to say but new-maintainer acceptances are partially stalled due to severe proplems on pgp.net the public pgp key servers. They seem to drop newly added keys for at least two weeks. After some more investigation from us the maintainers are informed. I hope this will be fixed

Re: not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Martin Schulze
On Mon, May 04, 1998 at 01:34:35AM -0400, Shaleh wrote: > I just was un-subscribed from debian-user for generating too many > bounced mails. I have now problems with my mail. I have received some > 400 e-mails in the last day and a half and sent around twenty. I work > for the ISP, our mail serv

Re: Time to say goodbye...

1998-05-04 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 09:43:42AM -0700, Jim Pick wrote: : : Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : : > The discussions of the last days have shown me clearly, that I can't : > implement my ideas WRT policy/QA anymore. : : > Therefore, I've decided to leave the Debian project. : : Sor

Copyright of fontinst.

1998-05-04 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Hi, some time ago I expressed the intent to package fontinst (a TeX/LaTeX package). I asked the author about the licence and here's what I got. It is not DFSG but we *do* have latex in tetex. So is it right for main? Thanx, federico. - Forwarded message - The fontinst package is d

Re: Time to say goodbye...

1998-05-04 Thread Michael Meskes
Jim Pick writes: > I must admit, I've been entirely negligent in following the policy > discussions - due to lack of time, I've skipped them entirely. Me too. > I suspect that most of the other "older" maintainers are the same way > - they've skipped the policy discussions altogether - which woul

Re: intent to take mawk and gawk

1998-05-04 Thread Herbert Xu
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Chris> Debian's [...] Chris> and adding the requirement for PGP (which I > Chris> never needed before) plus my growing involvement in small start-up > Chris> businesses (mostly Debian Linux based) have consumed all my time. > FUD. > I created PG

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Raul> Policy SHOULD be followed, in the general case. I'd even agree Raul> that in a large number of specific cases (but not all), policy Raul> MUST be followed. You're the one that has decided that this Raul> means that it SHOULD NOT be foll

Re: not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I expect that everyone who has sent email to debian-devel this > weekend will have been unsubscribed. [Er... probably not everyone: the "too many bounces" mechanism probably won't knock off people who posted just a few times.] -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Shaleh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just was un-subscribed from debian-user for generating too many > bounced mails. I have now problems with my mail. I have received some > 400 e-mails in the last day and a half and sent around twenty. I work > for the ISP, our mail server is stable. Otherwi

not knowing where to send this.....

1998-05-04 Thread Shaleh
I just was un-subscribed from debian-user for generating too many bounced mails. I have now problems with my mail. I have received some 400 e-mails in the last day and a half and sent around twenty. I work for the ISP, our mail server is stable. Otherwise our customers would be ripping the door

bogus bounce handling

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Watch out, folks. There's something bogus going on with bounce handling, and people may be dropping off the list due to problems in the bms.com domain. -- Raul - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail

Re: Run away TCSH

1998-05-04 Thread G John Lapeyre
Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > I recall there being a discussion on this some time ago, I just noticed on > master, There is a bit of dicussion on it in the bug system. I corresponded with the debian mainainter (Luis Gonzales) and the upstream author. They think it is a pretty tough problem.

Re: fetchmail/procmail was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 11:40:45PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > We are probably wasting everyone's time now by not looking to see just what > fetchmail/procmail interface actually is... > > As I understand it, the fetchmail/procmail interface is a kludge. No, actually it's a pipe.. =>

Re: MDA's was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 11:45:24PM +0400, Amos Shapira wrote: > |Sendmail configuration is tough but it is also the best documented MTA > |bar none! The O'Reliey book alone on sendmail is 2 1/5" thick. Probably > |close to everything that has ever been done with mail has been done with > |sendma

Re: Why is premail in non-free?

1998-05-04 Thread aqy6633
>Could anyone tell me why premail is in non-free? I've read the license a >couple of times, and I really don't see anything that would prevent it > from= >=20 >being in main (or at least contrib). Am I missing something? > > I see nothing that would make me object to its inclusion

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 07:10:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Rev> How did you get sendmail to cooperate with dialup? > > What do you mean by cooperate? I send mail using sendmail > whenever I want to. On up-up, I do a sendmail -q. I download messages > using fetchmail. As to my send

Re: fetchmail/procmail was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread wrl
'From Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 11:39:44PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Sun, 3 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > 'From Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' > > > > I don't think so Jason... > > > > Fetchmail is also pretty robust about mail handling but i

Re: MDA's was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread wrl
'From Bill Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' I don't see why either but it sure has not been done. [snip] > I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to make configuration just > as easy for a dial-up case. We need to figure out what the typical dial-up > cases look like and integrate them into the confi

intent to package eql

1998-05-04 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Hi all. I've noted that debian doesn't have the tool to manage the EQL network device. After a bit of ftping I've found eql-1.2.tar.gz in sunsite.unc.edu, compiled and tested it. Maybe eql is not very used (I used it some years ago and it worked fine!), but anyway it's silly to have EQL support i

Re: Preliminary intent to package - enlightenment

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are several problems with the packaging of enlightenment. It's > menuing system is *not* easy to integrate with debian menu. This is simply > because of the flexible and highly detailed syntax it uses. It is not > modular in any way. A prelimina

Re: Why is premail in non-free?

1998-05-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Could anyone tell me why premail is in non-free? I've read the license a couple of times, and I really don't see anything that would prevent it from= =20 being in main (or at least contrib). Am I missing something? I see nothing that would make me object to its inclusion in main. --

Re: Bug#21969: debian-policy: needs clarification about Standards-Version

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> In any case, policy is not meant to be followed anyway. Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Raul> Cut it out, Manoj. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why? You should be happy I'm on your side now. Were you not objecting > to th

where is libc6-dev 2.0.7pre3

1998-05-04 Thread Shaleh
I have libc6 2.0.7pre3-1 installed. libc6-dev is unhappy -- all I can find is the 2.0.7pre1-4 of it. apt is kinda of cure here. It wants to remove my libc6-dev and all dependant packages (-: Glad I have it held. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

apt tried for the first time

1998-05-04 Thread Shaleh
Looks good. We have needed a progress meter for a long time. Cant wait for the GUI !! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Coming to closure on ae...

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
> > > Test $DISPLAY, it's the Right Way to test for X. On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:24:50PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > > But not the right way to test for xterm. Rev. Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If $DISPLAY is set you're either in an xterm, rxvt, or kvt. As far as ae > would care,

Re: MDA's was: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Raul Miller
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In my opinion, sendmail is well documented *and* has lots of > documentation. I also fail to find sendmail.cf obfuscatory -- but > then, I have been writing sendmail.cf files since 1992. Depends what you're trying to do, I suppose. When I wan

Re: install-docs in prerm problem

1998-05-04 Thread Adam P. Harris
[Sorry to be so late reading debian-devel. Please cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> next time. I just don't always have time to keep up on this list.] Elie Rosenblum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Folks, make sure your prerm scripts don't fail if the install-docs doesn't > want to uninstall docs that are

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 07:38:57PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Rev> The script didn't deal with the fact that I didn't have a static > Rev> IP/name. > > Hmm. I don't quite understand that -- I think I just had my > machine set up as 127.0.0.2 or something (I could also have used > 192

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 10:41:10AM +0200, Hugo Haas wrote: > > > root: The person who gets root's mail (also daemons', etc). > > > This userid (on the mailhub) get all mail sent to > > > local adressees with userids less than 10. In other > > > words, she gets mail

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Rev" == Rev Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Rev> The script didn't deal with the fact that I didn't have a static Rev> IP/name. Hmm. I don't quite understand that -- I think I just had my machine set up as 127.0.0.2 or something (I could also have used 192.168.1.10 or s

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 12:54:20AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think I'm confused too thought that is not such an unusual state latesly... > Fetchmail IS POP (or IMAP and somthing else but definately NOT smtp) for > __getting__ the mail. It IS also smtp for handing the mail to the machine

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:34:28PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > I haven't looked at it. It's only 15k! That would be a really good > > choice if it actually does the job. :-) > > One large problem with ssmtp is that it has no queueing. If you try to send > mail offline, it gets lost. Does ssmtp

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sat, May 02, 1998 at 08:39:25PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote: > > slrnpull should probably be seperated from slrn simply because there's > > nothing in it that REQUIRES slrn other than that it puts things in > > /var/spool/slrnpull (can be changed) and if you don't LIKE slrn you can > > still have slr

Re: Initial partitions

1998-05-04 Thread Bear Giles
> > [1] I don't why my system always reboots in "read-only" mode now; > > Umm, what kernel were you running before? Debian 1.3, from a Walnut Creek CD-ROM dated late last year. It was one of those "6-CD set!" deals; I bought the bundle so I could install the best on my personal systems, yet sti

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Rev" == Rev Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> manoj who is happy with sendmail and does have a dialup connection >> and diald Rev> How did you get sendmail to cooperate with dialup? What do you mean by cooperate? I send mail using sendmail whenever I want to. On up-up,

Re: Yet another Linux distribution! :-)

1998-05-04 Thread Rev. Joseph Carter
On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 11:27:29AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > > smail is NASTY to configure over dialup links. And getting worse it seems. > > I couldn't do it. sendmail is clearly not suited for the task. > ^^^ > > why? > > sen

Re: Preliminary intent to package - enlightenment

1998-05-04 Thread vanco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 3 May 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > --On Sun, May 3, 1998 5:26 pm +0100 "Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi there... > > > > Anyone out there already grabbed the enlightenment package, or have a > reason > > why it shouldn't be in slink? I