Re: Modula-3

1998-04-22 Thread Anthony Fok
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 02:42:37PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > > Do we have a modula-3 compiler? I thought about packaging cvsup. Since > > postgresql is distributed via cvsup I use it anyway and I'd like to get rid > > of that lo

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Raul Miller
Carl Mummert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But when you say, 'less binfile', what do you expect it to do? Pretty much the same thing view binfile does. Note also that the real problem lesspipe was designed for would be better addressed by a compressed file system. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: /bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-22 Thread Martin Schulze
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 04:30:42PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: > > "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Dale> /bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own > Dale> man page. How does one determine the differences between sh > Dale> and bash? > > On

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread Igor Grobman
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> igor wrote: >a new license yet, but here it is: > > > >/* = > > * Copyright (c) 1998 Moxa Technologies Corp, LTD. All rights reserved. > [...] > > * 3. All advertising materials mentioning feature

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> igor wrote: > >I intend to package up Moxa radius, a fully-featured radius server package. >It has some of the features that are not available in any of freely available >radius's that debian contains, such as proxy support. I found it accidentally >on the net, a

Re: elvis package

1998-04-22 Thread Raul Miller
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm pretty sure that a program must be either entirely GPLed, > or contain no GPLed parts. More precisely, the non-gpled parts must not have terms which prevent compliance with the gpled parts. -- Raul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: /bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-22 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Dale" == Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dale> /bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own Dale> man page. How does one determine the differences between sh Dale> and bash? On my system /bin/sh -> bash, so I guess there aren't many. Of course I could h

Re: elvis package

1998-04-22 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >On Fri, 17 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote: > >> This might look confusing but the situation is different as >> the author of vile is aware of the unfreeness and distributes >> new parts under the GPL. >> >> "the bulk of vile _cannot_ be covered by the GPL

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread James Troup
Charles Briscoe-Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Urk! It's the Obnoxious BSD Advertising Clause, back to haunt us. > > Including the OBSDAC would make Moxa non-free. Say _what_? I do *not* think so. (Hint: look at glibc's copyright file) -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread Igor Grobman
>>Anyway, could you explain to me how this advertising clause is so harmful? > > See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/bsd.html. Ok, this helps. I am still at a loss why we mention BSD as one of the "free" licenses in DFSG, and have no mention of this problem there. I'll try to contact Moxa

Re: Intent to package moxa radius

1998-04-22 Thread James Troup
Igor Grobman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anyway, could you explain to me how this advertising clause is so > harmful? http://www.oryxsoft.com/rms/rms-bsd-license.html> -- James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

/bin/sh has no man page.

1998-04-22 Thread Dale Scheetz
/bin/sh is provided by bash, but doesn't come with its own man page. How does one determine the differences between sh and bash? Is there some documentation that I have missed? Thanks, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_- Author of "The Debian Linux User's Guide" _-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz

master status

1998-04-22 Thread maor
Only a few files were corrupted in the crash. I'll fix everything up this evening (in about 5 hours) and turn ftp access on again. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Carl Mummert
David Welton wrote: > zless, so, why not build on that and just use a different name. Or is > there something that I am missing because of my late entry into the > discussion (sorry)? Background: when 'less' runs, it looks for an environment var called "LESSOPEN" If it finds one, it uses the valu

Re: Lists archives outside debian.org

1998-04-22 Thread Martin Schulze
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 04:15:04PM -0300, Steve Kostecke wrote: > Debian-private should not be archived by a third party. I'm undecided > about the others. Debian-private is out of discussion. It must not be archived outside of active developers - that's the case atm. Regards, Joey -

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread David Welton
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 04:15:51PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote: > David Welton wrote: > > One of the things I like about Linux, and Unix in general, is that it > > doesn't try to be smart where you don't expect it to. > > But when you say, 'less binfile', what do you expect it to do? Show me the

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Carl Mummert
David Welton wrote: > One of the things I like about Linux, and Unix in general, is that it > doesn't try to be smart where you don't expect it to. But when you say, 'less binfile', what do you expect it to do? I had thought that the idea of lesspipe is to have less give you more useful informa

Re: Lists archives outside debian.org

1998-04-22 Thread Steve Kostecke
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) writes: > On Thu, Apr 16, 1998 at 12:58:08PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I think it would be useful to archive the Debian lists there too (in >> addition to our www.debian.org archive). > > Do others have an oppinion

fakeroot and eg++

1998-04-22 Thread Jens Rosenboom
I seem to be experiencing problems with builds under the fakeroot environment not creating setuid/gid flags correctly. This may be related to the fact that I have installed eg++ and libstdc++-2.8, while the current fakeroot (0.0-11) is still built with libstdc++-2.7.2. Trying to rebuild fakeroot

Yet another install doc update.

1998-04-22 Thread Igor Grobman
I have fixed yet some more little mistakes, and enhanced the install doc some more. This time, I mostly had to include the suggestions from other people. Thanks to Ben Gertzfield, Bob Hilliard and Jim Van Zandt (and I know I am forgetting someone) for their contributions. I think this is ver

Re: Vim @ bzip2

1998-04-22 Thread Brederlow
Vaclav Hula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all there! Hi > P.S. Is something wrong with this: > >*.tar.gz|*.tgz|*.tar.Z) > tar tzvf $1 ;; > > *.gz|*.Z|*.z) > gzip -dc $1 ;; > > +*.tar.bz2|*.tbz2) > +tar tIvf $1 ;; Tar forks to bzip2

Re: dpkg-perl should predepend on perl?

1998-04-22 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 04:54:37AM +1000, Martin Mitchell wrote: > I installed a debian hamm system yesterday and noticed a problem involving > dpkg-perl. After installing the base system from disks, I ran dselect > to install some more packages. On the first installation run however, > dpkg-perl w

Re: autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Brederlow
"Jules Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 5:23 pm +0200 "Andreas Tille" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. This doesn't answer your question, but as an additional feature > request, how about if no -F is given, use argv[0]. So a hard link to > xpenguin gets the debian c

Re: autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Brederlow
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 22 Apr 1998, Brederlow wrote: > > > Do you look at ~/ ? Maybe ~/.tedy.xpm should be used if present. :) > That seems me a little bit oversized. To make it more clear what I want to > do: > > xteddy needs four files: > NAME_bw.xbm -> gray i

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread David Welton
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 01:17:27PM -0400, Ben Pfaff wrote: >> What would be the use of looking at a screen full of control characters? > >Because when I look at a binary with less, I *mean* to do >that... usually to look for corruption (blocks of nulls) or things >like *short* stri

dpkg-perl should predepend on perl?

1998-04-22 Thread Martin Mitchell
I installed a debian hamm system yesterday and noticed a problem involving dpkg-perl. After installing the base system from disks, I ran dselect to install some more packages. On the first installation run however, dpkg-perl was the first package installed, and it failed because perl was not yet in

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Ben Pfaff
> What would be the use of looking at a screen full of control characters? Because when I look at a binary with less, I *mean* to do that... usually to look for corruption (blocks of nulls) or things like *short* strings or strings not in the text section, that "strings" *won't find

Vim @ bzip2

1998-04-22 Thread Vaclav Hula
Hi all there! During reading the bzip2 thread, because there is no bzip2 support (at least until bzip2 is integrated in gzip), I added folowing in vimrc: augroup bzip2 " Remove all bzip2 autocommands au! " Enable editing of bzipped files " read: set binary mode before reading the f

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Mark W. Eichin
> What would be the use of looking at a screen full of control characters? Because when I look at a binary with less, I *mean* to do that... usually to look for corruption (blocks of nulls) or things like *short* strings or strings not in the text section, that "strings" *won't find*. > mentione

Re: /etc/passwd : which software does support this ?

1998-04-22 Thread Raul Miller
Remco Blaakmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not really a programer, but I wonder how hard it would be to put > support for these fields in all programs like login, xdm, cron, at and > anything I am forgetting. Could this be done? The difficulty isn't so much making the change, once (though t

Re: autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: > OK. This doesn't answer your question, but as an additional feature > request, how about if no -F is given, use argv[0]. So a hard link to > xpenguin gets the debian chap, etc... That's a good idea. I'll do that. > What does debian's automatic make sup

Re: autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Jules Bean
--On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 5:23 pm +0200 "Andreas Tille" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 22 Apr 1998, Brederlow wrote: > >> Do you look at ~/ ? Maybe ~/.tedy.xpm should be used if present. :) > That seems me a little bit oversized. To make it more clear what I want to > do: > > xteddy needs four f

Re: autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On 22 Apr 1998, Brederlow wrote: > Do you look at ~/ ? Maybe ~/.tedy.xpm should be used if present. :) That seems me a little bit oversized. To make it more clear what I want to do: xteddy needs four files: NAME_bw.xbm -> gray if libXpm isn't available NAME_color.xpm -> the nice T

Re: weird utmp/perl problem

1998-04-22 Thread Roderick Schertler
On 21 Apr 1998 08:55:51 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom) said: > >> It's just a silly bug. It calls that code from some scripts which >> have fd0 dup'd elsewhere, so isatty(0) is false and getlogin() fails. > > Will someone please fix it? It's really annoying. Is it in the bug > sys

Re: l3 - MPEG Layer 3 encoder

1998-04-22 Thread James Troup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes: > Who maintains frozen? l3 (non-free) has expired. The author > (Fraunhofer Institut IIS) has released a new version called > mp3encdemo, but this version is limited to 30s of music (so it#s not > longer useful) :(((. > > So please remove my l3 package from

Re: autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Brederlow
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > Is there another way to tell programs where to look for pixmaps > or libraries. Is there a library which handles such problems > (I want to do the following: at first search the files in "." than > in the path defined by PIXMAP_PATH, may be

Re: l3 - MPEG Layer 3 encoder

1998-04-22 Thread Anderson MacKay
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Who maintains frozen? l3 (non-free) has expired. The author (Fraunhofer > Institut IIS) has released a new version called mp3encdemo, but this > version is limited to 30s of music (so it#s not longer useful) :(((. Well, you're in luck. A bunch of us from

autoconf problem

1998-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello, when building the packages I want to maintain I need to define some PATH-variables for pixmaps and libraries. What would be the appropriate way to do that? In the case of xteddy, I have to tell xteddy, where to look for the pixmaps (my version can load not only xteddy but any pixmap which

l3 - MPEG Layer 3 encoder

1998-04-22 Thread Marco Budde
Hi! Who maintains frozen? l3 (non-free) has expired. The author (Fraunhofer Institut IIS) has released a new version called mp3encdemo, but this version is limited to 30s of music (so it#s not longer useful) :(((. So please remove my l3 package from frozen. Thanks. cu, Marco -- Uni: [EMAIL

Upgrading Debian 1.3.1r6 to frozen

1998-04-22 Thread Jonas Rathert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi there, I somewhere read that you need more beta testing of frozen, so I updated my system yesterday. Here's my report: System: P100, 64 MB RAM, IBM 4,3 GB (DCAA), Quantum 1,2 GB (Fireball), Fritz! ISDN, Spea Mercury P64 OS: WinNT and Debian 1.3.

Re: Modula-3

1998-04-22 Thread Martin Schulze
On Wed, Apr 22, 1998 at 02:34:51PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Do we have a modula-3 compiler? I thought about packaging cvsup. Since > postgresql is distributed via cvsup I use it anyway and I'd like to get rid > of that local precompiled libc5 version I use right now. But packaging > modula-3

Modula-3

1998-04-22 Thread Michael Meskes
Do we have a modula-3 compiler? I thought about packaging cvsup. Since postgresql is distributed via cvsup I use it anyway and I'd like to get rid of that local precompiled libc5 version I use right now. But packaging modula-3 compiler seems like a lot of work. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Proj

Re: deb + tar + bzip2 suggestion

1998-04-22 Thread Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > Sorry for the late reply - catching up. > > > IMHO speed is always relevant, and so is memory usage. This is the trap > > Micro$oft > > and Apple have fallen into. Just because the hardware is capable of runn

Re: bzip2 X

1998-04-22 Thread Brederlow
Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > : fast. Its not agood solution, so thats why I asked here about > : integrating bzip2 support into gzip. > > Points well taken. You're just asking in the wrong place. You should take > this up with the gzip

Re: first proposal for a new maintainer policy

1998-04-22 Thread Jim
Apologies are due for my not trimming the crossposting before; I meant to, but I forgot to. As I understand things, there should be no crossposting amongst the debian mailing lists. If I make further comment, therefore, I will be careful to trim the mail distribution to one of them only, and send

Re: binary-CD exceeds 650 MB -- any solution?

1998-04-22 Thread Guy Maor
Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > but for symlinks pointing to something excluded from mirroring, > it should download the file. this way i could burn a complete hamm... I turned the hamm->bo symlinks into files a few days ago. Guy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xpenguin (formerly known as xteddy)

1998-04-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 18 Apr 1998, Alex Romosan wrote: > >Why dont u make a debian PAckage out of it? You can do one PAckage > >xteddy with an additonal command-line parameter to select the > >personality shown. > > somebody else (Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) has already > expressed interest in packaging

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Carl Mummert
Joey Hess wrote: > > > > This seems like a bad idea. "strings" is not the obvious information > > to provide about an executable. (Consider size, objdump, od, hexdump, > > et cetera). > > > > I only use "strings" when I pipe through grep. When I use less it's > > just as easy to search the fi

Re: less: extra entries for lesspipe

1998-04-22 Thread Joey Hess
Richard Braakman wrote: > > I've added the "if binary executable, use strings on it" to lessopen. I > > could see marginal use for looking at the raw executable, so if anyone > > has any objections, speak up before Saturday Night (-0800Z) or file a > > bug against less and I'll take it out. (cc'i

^^Please read above message^^

1998-04-22 Thread Ian Keith Setford
It's late. I forgot the subject. Geez. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Unidentified subject!

1998-04-22 Thread Ian Keith Setford
Yo- I would like suggestions and input on how to "sell" Debian in the sense of Debian versus RedHat, FreeBSD, or any other distribution. I will attempt to persuade a small committee of faculty to install Debian on a yet to be purchased machine. The machine is an experiment at my university to s

Re: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-22 Thread G John Lapeyre
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > The Minig Co? Not likely. I did a little bit of part time work for them > and was even offered a job a year and half back. I refused to take it up > because they were Gung Ho about NT. For one of my projects for them I Yeah, it r

Re: master status

1998-04-22 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Hi Mark... What about using soft-raid1/5? there are working raid-L0145 patches for 2.0.xx... when a drive in the array fails the others continue working (well, if all drives in the raid array fail you are lost, but that only happens at debian-release-time :) Just my 0.02 cents ;-) On Tuesday, A

Re: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-22 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Eloy A. Paris wrote: > Nicol?s Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > : Are we really that good?? =) > Probably they are grateful to us because they use Debian on their own > systems? The Minig Co? Not likely. I did a little bit of part time work for them and was even offered a job a year and

Didn't upload apache 1.3b6-1 (source i386) to master

1998-04-22 Thread Johnie Ingram
Well this is the Big One: the final release of apache 1.3.x for hamm, closing all but wishlist Bugs. Technical difficulties delay the upload, but this gives us more time to find problems in the packaging before its approved for inclusion. You can find it at: ftp://ftp1.us.debian.org/deb

Re: /tmp exploits

1998-04-22 Thread Stephen Carpenter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I think you are missing th epoin there somewhat. I belive the original intent was NOT to modify libc so that /tmp exploits are impossible as a be-all and end-all solution The idea was to modify libc so that anything which used /tmp in blatantly unsafe ways (I s

Re: /etc/passwd : which software does support this ?

1998-04-22 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, matthew.r.pavlovich.1 wrote: > xdm-shadow is already available. Yes, and I am using it. But the question is, does it support the "pri=", "umask=" and "ulimit=" fields in /etc/passwd? And do cron and at also know about these fields? If cron and at don't know about them and don

Re: /etc/passwd : which software does support this ?

1998-04-22 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On 21 Apr 1998, Guy Maor wrote: > Remco Blaakmeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > If shadow-login is the only program that supports these fields, they are > > useless. If a user had a value "pri=5", he would only have to do something > > like > > echo 'command' | at now > > to get 'command' exe

DFMR

1998-04-22 Thread Robert Edmonds
Anyone wishing to be on the DFMR (Deb Freshmeat Repository) team should email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject DFMR. I understand Freshmeat has _one_ person managing the RPM repository... -- Robert S. Edmonds Debian Developer (http://www.debian.org) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://edmonds.home.

Re: Debian GNU/Linux: Best of the Web! (fwd)

1998-04-22 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Nicol?s Lichtmaier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: : Are we really that good?? =) :-) Probably they are grateful to us because they use Debian on their own systems? E.- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]