On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:
> Apart from that, I thought that gcc and tools are intelligent
> enough to only link routines and libraries to executables if
> there are routines from them used.
They are not. I pointed this out on debian-policy a while ago,
but nobody seemed to care.
> > The point here is that it's _documented_ to return EBADF if the stream
> > pointer is not an open stream, and that's not what happens. This is
> > difficult to enforce in practice, and is not necessary for ISO
> > compliance -- so let's fix the man page.
>
> Nope, you're reading that backwar
/** msadpcm.c
*
(C) Copyright Microsoft Corp. 1993. All rights reserved.
You have a royalty-free right to use, modify, reproduce and
distribute the Sample Files (and/or any modified version) in
any way you find useful, provided that you agree that
Mi
Hi,
>>"Gregory" == Gregory S Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Gregory> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring the situation
>> completely with unpredictable results, to behaving during
>> translation or program execution in a documente
Hi,
I am currently enhancing my sound recorder to handle compressed wave
formats. To implement msadpcm (Microsoft implementation) i used the
examples as provided by them. This carries the following notice:
/** msadpcm.c
*
(C) Copyright Microsoft Corp. 1993. All rights reserved.
You
On 11-Apr-98, 13:27 (CDT), Avery Pennarun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The point here is that it's _documented_ to return EBADF if the stream
> pointer is not an open stream, and that's not what happens. This is
> difficult to enforce in practice, and is not necessary for ISO compliance --
> so le
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring the
> situation completely with unpredictable results, to behaving
> during translation or program execution in a documented manner
> charecteristic of the environment (with
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 03:18:46PM -0400, Brian White wrote:
>
> I was thinking "project/experimental" would be better, but I don't think
> that goes out on many CDs.
>From a logical point of view, I think project/experimental is the best
choice. Why don't we include selected directories from the
> > 2.1 kernel-requiring stuff (and a current 2.1 kernel?) can be included
> > under "contrib". This keeps it out of "main" and puts it into the realm
> > of "user-beware". (Note: This is not to insinuate that everything in
> > contrib is dangerous or anything, but just that you should think at
Karl M. Hegbloom writes:
> Package: tetex-base
> Version: 0.9-4
> Severity: Wishlist
>
> Will you please ftp the `ntex' distribution from sunsite and look
> through the documentation that is shipped with it, and see if any can
> be added to the tetex distro? ;-)
>
>
Can you please asse
Steve Greenland wrote:
>
> On 09-Apr-98, 22:04 (CDT), Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "LeRoy D. Cressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when
> > > upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves
> > > the following br
Hi,
>>"Kai" == Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kai> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 11.04.98 in
Kai> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Look at the whole sentence, please. There are indeed no
>> requirements for the program to behave in any fashion; as long as
>> the
Kai> No. There
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 01:16:19PM -0400, Brian White wrote:
> > > > Also, how likely are the current versions of these programs
> > > > to work with future versions of the unstable 2.1 kernel and the 2.2
> > > > kernel that will eventually come from it?
> >
> > True enough. But a Debian 2.1.x pac
Hi,
>>"Kai" == Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Kai> Bullshit.
Bullshit? And this is supposed to be a technical discussion?
Can you not engage in civilized discourse without resorting to
invective? Do you realize that is generally the case with a weak
argument?
Kai> The docu
Hi,
>>"Steve" == Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steve> On 11-Apr-98, 02:26 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava
Steve> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So, the point is not whether they implemntation can do strange and
>> unexpected things; they can; but then they have to document it.
>>
>> BTW, in
Hello!
A bind security fix package has just bin installed into bo-unstable. It
is version 8.1.2-0.bo1. If you are using bind 4.9.x you should seriously
consider upgrading.
Greg
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John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I was upgrading packages on my 64 meg system today ant noticed:
> PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
> 24785 root 18 0 12680 12M 568 S 0 0.1 20.0 5:36 dpkg
> Yes, that's almost 13 megs used by d
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Steve Greenland wrote:
> > BTW, in Debian, fclose says it returns an error, and does not mention
> > corrupting memory.
> > ERRORS
> >EBADF The argument stream is not an open stream.
> >
> >The fclose function may also fail and set errno for any of
> >
Guy Maor wrote:
>
> "LeRoy D. Cressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when
> > upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves
> > the following broken links reported by ldconfig:
>
> Those symlinks are part of libreadline2-dev
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote:
> > I intend to package the new communicator that allow free redistribution. It
> > will go into non-free(no source), but at least the users won't have to
> > download the tarball themselves.
>
> That would be great! I posted a couple weeks ago asking for
> > Just so there's no confusion: you're refering to the Netscape-branded
> > product, right?
>
> I think we should use the following nomenclature -
>
> 1. Mozilla - Sources and binaries compiled from the sources downloaded from
> http://www.mozilla.org/
>
> 2. Netscape Communicator - Binaries d
> I intend to package the new communicator that allow free redistribution. It
> will go into non-free(no source), but at least the users won't have to
> download the tarball themselves.
That would be great! I posted a couple weeks ago asking for someone to
help with this because I don't have the
> > > Also, how likely are the current versions of these programs
> > > to work with future versions of the unstable 2.1 kernel and the 2.2
> > > kernel that will eventually come from it?
>
> True enough. But a Debian 2.1.x package and packages that works with it
> could be good for seeing and try
> Currently it seems to me that debian-devel is serving two unrelated
> purposes. On the one hand it is a forum for developers to pick each
> others brains, and ask opinions of interested debian users.
>
> On the other hand, it also serves to monitor the status of the frozen and
> unstable distri
I was upgrading packages on my 64 meg system today ant noticed:
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
24785 root 18 0 12680 12M 568 S 0 0.1 20.0 5:36 dpkg
Yes, that's almost 13 megs used by dpkg, and 20% of my RAM.
That also is 4 megs more
On 11-Apr-98, 02:26 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, the point is not whether they implemntation can do strange
> and unexpected things; they can; but then they have to document it.
>
> BTW, in Debian, fclose says it returns an error, and does not mention
> corrup
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The nice side effect of my packaging, is that in the original tarball, you
> have to download both the static and dynamic versions. My packaging has them
> split up. Also, -java is the same between Navigator and Communicator.
Any chance of getting a stan
> "Karl" == Karl M Hegbloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Karl> I've decided not to take the guile packages from Jim Pick.
Disregard that. I will proceed with the packages.
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I've decided not to take the guile packages from Jim Pick. I don't
have the time, I really need to study more, I'm not up to the task
right now. I have a nice rules file if anyone wants it.
I've decided to put my energy into learning to use the RScheme
system, rather than Guile. It's a bet
As everyone here has probably noticed already, the traffic on debian-devel
has increased again. (My debian-devel mail folder for March 98 is 8.7 mb
large!)
I guess one of the reasons is that a lot of project related discussions
which have been hold on debian-private before, are now moved to
debia
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 11.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Look at the whole sentence, please. There are indeed no
> requirements for the program to behave in any fashion; as long as the
No. There are no requirements, period. Look at the sentence yourself.
> I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 10.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I understand that it is fashionable in comp.lang.c to say that
> undefined behaviour means "It can corrupt memory, re-format your hard
> disk, or make monkeys fly out of your nose; all of these are ISO C
> c
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eloy A. Paris) wrote on 10.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> According to fclose's man page, it will return EOF and set errno to
> EBADF if the argument is not an open stream.
That is not what the info docs for libc6 say:
Closing Streams
===
When a stream is clo
On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 02:00:12AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> I have an updated http mirror list,
> http://www.debian.org/~jgg/mastersoucelist
> Let me know if there are any omissions or errors.
It's a shame we don't/can't have any sought of quality of service
indicator in our mirror listing.
I keep getting bug reports about postgresql-6.3-2 which is the latest
one available in hamm.
It's up-to-date replacement is postgresql-6.3.1-6 which is stuck in
Incoming. That will itself be obsoleted next week, when an upstream
bugfixing releasze is due
Please get this version; if you cannot ge
On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Brian Bassett wrote:
> After both Manoj Srivastava and Bob Hilliard pointed out to me the faults
> in using the Maintainers file for determining the number of maintainers, I
> have decided to use the Debian PGP keyring. After deleting duplicate keys,
> the keyring says that th
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 02:03:54AM +0200, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote:
: Hello,
: I've just released BeroFTPD 1.0.1, a wu-ftpd derived ftp server program
: fixing some wu-ftpd bugs and adding a few more features.
:
: Anyone willing to build a debian package?
:
: (the .tar.gz can be found at ftp:
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 03:53:33PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote:
:
: What's the appropriate procdure when dupload fails? Can I just
: manually ftp the files to the appropriate directory on master?
You can.
But why does dupload fail?
Heiko
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) wrote on 10.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Therefore, I believe it would be prudent, as a temporary workaround
> for the kernel bug, to umount all local drives before umounting
> network drives. It is generally not a big deal if a network drive
> doesn't get umo
I have an updated http mirror list,
http://www.debian.org/~jgg/mastersoucelist
Let me know if there are any omissions or errors.
Thanks,
Jason
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Hi,
It is also a quality of implementation issue. I have no
objections to am implementation documenting that a second call to
fclose shall result in indeterminate behaviour, and then not catching
that the structure is no longer an active FILE * stream.
I do have a problem wi
On 11-Apr-98, 00:12 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> >>"Gregory" == Gregory S Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Gregory> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> --
> >> Definitions of terms
This is a program that uses GTK and imlib to draw pix onto the root
window, or just colors. It is like xv in this respect. it is fully GPL
and has no problems.
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Hi,
>>"Gregory" == Gregory S Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Gregory> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> --
>> Definitions of terms
>>
>> ... Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring the
>> situation co
Hi,
>>"Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Herbert> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> --
>> Definitions of terms
>> o Undefined Behaviour -- behaviour, upon the use of a nonportable
>> or erroneous progr
severity 20033 grave
stop
I just received another bug report (#20978) on Octave not being able to
run. I had already reassigned the first such report (#20033) to libstdc++2.8
which does *not* introduce versioned dependencies on its libs even though it
is incompatible with the previous release. Be
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> --
> 1.6 Definitions of terms
> o Undefined Behaviour -- behaviour, upon the use of a nonportable or
> erroneous program construct, of erroneous data, or of inderminately
> valued ob
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 06:00:50PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> That is why I prefer to do:
>
> free(ptr);
> ptr = 0;
> --
> (similarily for fclose).
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> --
> 1.6 Definitions of terms
>
> ... Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring
> the situation completely with unpredictable results, to ...
> ___
Hi,
>>"Steve" == Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steve> On 10-Apr-98, 18:00 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava
Steve> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have looked at the standards to shed some liight on this
>> subject, and I failt to see any statements that a second flose is
>> cause for undefin
Do we consider this as a bug that should be fixed in shellutils?
Apart from that, I thought that gcc and tools are intelligent
enough to only link routines and libraries to executables if
there are routines from them used. If there are no crypto
routines used in these programs (e.g. sleep), I hav
> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
John> not umount local drives. Therefore, I believe it would be
John> prudent, as a temporary workaround for the kernel bug, to
John> umount all local drives before umounting network drives. It
No, that won't work if the
> I append my personal prompt setting scheme, in hopes this
> inspires someone else (any improvements greatly appreciated)
Uhh..! You must have lots of free time!
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Hello,
I've just released BeroFTPD 1.0.1, a wu-ftpd derived ftp server program
fixing some wu-ftpd bugs and adding a few more features.
Anyone willing to build a debian package?
(the .tar.gz can be found at ftp://linux.net.eu.org/pub/BeroFTPD)
LLaP
bero
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