Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Yann Dirson
Adam P. Harris writes: > I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use > 'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/. > > This would allow, for instance, MTA packages to ship little scripts to > flush the mail queue when the link comes up, pop-deamons to s

Re: Debian needs guinea pigs

1997-12-15 Thread Mark W. Blunier
Add me to the list. I have the room to test both upgrades and fresh installs. Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

redirecting stderr to memory

1997-12-15 Thread Enrique Zanardi
Hello! Is there an easy way to redirect stderr to memory? I was thinking about something like: FILE *stream,*tmpstream; char *streambuf; size_t streamsize; stream=open_memstream(&streambuf,&streamsize); tmpstream=stderr; stderr=stream; but it doesn't work, because stderr is not a FI

Debian Administration tool

1997-12-15 Thread Brian Bassett
Hi all, I recently switched to Debian from RedHat 4.2 and the one thing that I think that Debian could really use is an administration tool. Thus, I've decided to try and write such a tool. I've set up a webpage (http://www.butterfly.ml.org/debadmin/) and a mailing list (instructions at the webp

Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1997-12-15 Thread wnpp
Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] $Id: packages.sgml,v 1.62 1997/12/15 22:51:11 johnie Exp $ 1. General Questions 1.1. Before reading this document You should have read the Debian GNU/Linux FAQ . 1.2. Purpose of this

Re: Plan to package xscavenger

1997-12-15 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 06:46:20PM +, Adrian Bridgett wrote: > On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 12:20:10AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 10:32:51PM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > > On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > > I intend to package xscavenger, a lode

Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread bruce
It doesn't happen on my laptop running Debian 1.3 or my SGI running IRIX. I bet it's a GLIBC 2.0 interaction. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: How to detach debug symbols from libraries

1997-12-15 Thread Fabrizio Polacco
Yann Dirson wrote: > > Correction: it works now (probably a compilation option that wasn't > used at the time). > > Problem: it's really a mmap image (thus works only for executables, > not libs), and includes the libs symbols: > aha, but shared libs are executable files, so I succeeded buildin

Re: Intent to package: umich-ldap

1997-12-15 Thread Juan Cespedes
On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Brian Bassett wrote: > I just would like to pick everyone's brains and make sure of something. I > think that the following copyright would be acceptable under the DFSG: > > --- > > Copyright (c) 1992-1996 Regents of the University of Michigan. > All rights reserved. > > Re

Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On 15 Dec 1997, Ben Gertzfield wrote: > libgtk *compiles* fine, but when I run a program that uses it, the > fields where you enter text into only display bizarre characters -- > which change from version to version. For instance, when trying to get > gtk+971201 to work, I only got blank character

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
> "Adam" == Adam P Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adam> Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, Adam> but I was interested in getting some comments first. Red Hat 5.0 has a complex network configuration setup... I didn't have time to look it over in detail, b

Problems compiling packages

1997-12-15 Thread Martin Schulze
Good evening, during compiling re-packaging of some libraries on the powerpc I noticed several problems regarding our libc. On the powerpc - as on the alpha - there is no libc5 package and will never be (I guess). As a result compilation of any library that provides both a libc5 and libc6 releas

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Avery Pennarun
This would be helpful for my new wvdial package as well -- from a user interface standpoint, I would like to have a way for pppd to "call me back" once we're properly connected. Avery On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Adam P. Harris wrote: > Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Adam P. Harris wrote: > > Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I was > interested in getting some comments first. > > I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use > 'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/. So do I. I first aske

Re: ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Brian Bassett
I think this is a very good idea. I know that the ipmasq package would greatly benefit from this kind of arangement. Brian On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Adam P. Harris wrote: > > Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I was > interested in getting some comments first. > > I th

ppp's ip-{up,down} and possible utilization of 'run-parts'

1997-12-15 Thread Adam P. Harris
Maybe I should submit this as a wishlist to the bug system, but I was interested in getting some comments first. I think that /etc/ppp/ip-up and /etc/ppp/ip-down should use 'run-parts' against, say, the directories /etc/ppp/ip-{up,down}.d/. This would allow, for instance, MTA packages to ship li

Re: Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
A quick followup: Someone on the GIMP IRC network recently reported the *exact* same problem with certain gtk versions. But they're running SuSE 4.4.1, very tweaked. Now I don't think the problem is Debian-specific. (I had hoped it wasn't :) -- Brought to you by the letters F and Q and the num

Semi-important: tearing my hair out over libgtk problems

1997-12-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
I just can't understand this. I'm the maintainer of libgtk, the GIMP toolkit, which is the widget set for The GIMP and Gnome and other nice X programs. Ever since gtk+971109, however, I've been running into a problem that nobody who isn't running Debian has been running into. libgtk *compiles* fi

Re: /sbin/hwclock and /etc/init.d/boot

1997-12-15 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michel LESPINASSE) wrote on 14.12.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >My immediate problem is that I have the hardware clock set to GMT and > >my system clock is never getting set to the local timezone. > > Do you see "/etc/localtime" when you type "date +%Z" ? > If so, then I'd say

Re: Nags...

1997-12-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Santiago Vila wrote: > Please, tell Brian White about this. Will do. Thanks! > Current maintainer for bibindex in > hamm is "Debian-QA Group", so you should not receive any message about > that because of bibindex. Yeah, looking back th

Re: Nags...

1997-12-15 Thread Santiago Vila
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 15 Dec 1997, Christopher C Chimelis wrote: > FYI, I'm receiving all of the bug system nags for Christian Linhart for > his abandoned packages (xarchie and bibindex). I guess his account was > eliminated from master and my master account username is the

Re: new GTK+ release

1997-12-15 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "bruce" == bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: bruce> There is a new GTK+ release 0.99.0 . This is coordinated bruce> with the upcoming GIMP 0.99.16 release. I'm packaging this up as we speak, with epoch 1:, to make it libgtk1 version 1:0.99.0. Hopefully the GTK+ folks will keep wit

Re: unstripped stuff in /usr/lib

1997-12-15 Thread Adam P. Harris
"Fabrizio" == Fabrizio Polacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> We could let the -dev versions of packages have diversions of the >> libraries to unstripped versions, and have the runtime versions >> have stripped versions. Interesting idea. I can't say I'm completely c

Re: Work-Needing and Prospective Packages for Debian GNU/Linux

1997-12-15 Thread Rainer Dorsch
I am wondering that NIS+ is not in the list of packages which are not yet available in Debian. Did nobody ask for it? Reference: http://www-vt.uni-paderborn.de/~kukuk/linux/nisplus.html -- Rainer Dorsch Abt. Rechnerarchitektur e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Uni StuttgartTel.: 0711-7816-21

Re: Plan to package xscavenger

1997-12-15 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 12:20:10AM +0100, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > On Sun, Dec 14, 1997 at 10:32:51PM +0100, Remco Blaakmeer wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > > I intend to package xscavenger, a lode runner like game (remember the good > > > old commodore 64 days?). > > >

Nags...

1997-12-15 Thread Christopher C Chimelis
FYI, I'm receiving all of the bug system nags for Christian Linhart for his abandoned packages (xarchie and bibindex). I guess his account was eliminated from master and my master account username is the same as his old one, so the bug system is nagging me. I don't have a problem with the nags (

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Joey Hess wrote: > With debmake, new functionality was added all the time, and was added into > the same debstd program, changing its behavior, and so different versions > could have widly differing results on the same package. > > With debstd, each individual program has a well-defined job, and

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-15 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Leutloff wrote: > > I don't believe that debhelper address one of Ian's main complaints at > > all. If I remeber correctly, that complaint was that when you use > > debmake (or debhelper), you end up with debian package source with > > non-deterministic behavior. Depending on the versio

Re: 2.0.32, XNvidia, Vtk

1997-12-15 Thread bruce
Vtk would fit in non-free. I think it's worth it to ask them to modify their license to fit the DFSG, I'll fire off a note. This probably means changes in diff files only (which Ian hates, but I still think is a good compromise). Thanks Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING

Strange mail problem

1997-12-15 Thread liiwi
Hello! I'm having trouble with fetchmail and procmail. The trouble is that fetchmail ignores the 'mda "formail -s procmail"' line totally and delivers all mail to port 25. nice. I can't remember, how many times I have checked everything. This might have a connection with another problem th

Re: news gateways

1997-12-15 Thread bruce
Ian, My main concern is whether we are getting completely clueless people who are not interested in Linux at all on debian-devel because of the news gateway. If that is not the case, I dont' have justification to remove it. I don't see a reason to take it off the gateway because it would "unsettle

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-15 Thread Rob Browning
Christian Leutloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > it's nice to have, but brings no advantages. If we change the > autoconfish thing we get the same different binaries as through > changing debhelper/debmake. It's IMHO only a different view but no > substantial change. And debhelper is working NOW -

2.0.32, XNvidia, Vtk

1997-12-15 Thread Alexander Supalov
Dear Gurus, I saw today that Linux kernel 2.0.32 had been released as a Debian package. Is it safe to upgrade the existing Debian.1.3.r4 to this kernel? What about all the libc6 stuff? Should I have it installed or should I better wait until the the next major Debian release arrives? If so, when w

Re: I take debmake

1997-12-15 Thread Christian Leutloff
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't believe that debhelper address one of Ian's main complaints at > all. If I remeber correctly, that complaint was that when you use > debmake (or debhelper), you end up with debian package source with > non-deterministic behavior. Depending on th

Re: news gateways

1997-12-15 Thread Arto Astala
Ian: > Bruce: > > Chris says that all of the mailing lists are gatewayed one-way only, > > and there is no mention of the list address in the headers. Thus, he > > thinks that the people who are finding our list by mistake are doing > > it through some other means. Does this mean that they are find

[PGP] RI keysigning

1997-12-15 Thread Steve Kostecke
Is there a developer in Southern Mass., Rhode Island, or Northern Connecticut who could sign my key for me? TIA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: Changelog policy being ignored

1997-12-15 Thread Martin Mitchell
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The normal maintainer can of course choose not to apply the diff. > However, we should say that: > > * The person making the non-maintainer release should provide a > description of all the separate bugs that they fix. > > * The normal maintainer shoul

news gateways

1997-12-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Bruce: > Chris says that all of the mailing lists are gatewayed one-way only, > and there is no mention of the list address in the headers. Thus, he > thinks that the people who are finding our list by mistake are doing > it through some other means. Does this mean that they are finding it > throug

Re: Changelog policy being ignored

1997-12-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Hamish Moffatt: > Is the regular maintainer required to apply the diff? In doing > some non-maintainer upgrades just for libc6 reasons, I have > fixed some bugs where these are readily fixed. If the non-maintainer > work does not have to be used, there is every risk of bugs > being closed which are

Re: Changelog policy being ignored

1997-12-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 15, 1997 at 01:11:00PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It is clear that the actual maintainer, when preparing the new > > release, did not downloaded the non-maintainer release beforehand. The > > non-maintainer releases were made about 2 months befo

Re: Changelog policy being ignored

1997-12-15 Thread Martin Mitchell
Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm sorry, but it's you who's not following the policy. Maintainers > are not required to download non-maintainer releases. Instead, > according to the `Developers' Reference' s4.3: > Maintainers other than the usual package maintainer should make as fe

Changelog policy being ignored

1997-12-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Martin Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It is clear that the actual maintainer, when preparing the new > release, did not downloaded the non-maintainer release beforehand. The > non-maintainer releases were made about 2 months before these current > releases. > > While I don't consider these proble

Re: Amiga port of Debian

1997-12-15 Thread Brederlow
James Troup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > It most certainly is not. > > > > Hmmm? What's missing then, since we are running a perfectly working > > 1.2.17 system... > > Any sane Amiga installation disks; a non-buggy-pseudo-1.3 base set. > An

Changelog policy being ignored

1997-12-15 Thread Martin Mitchell
Hi, I noticed some new updates of packages recently have not complied with changelog policy[1]. They are packages that I had made non-maintainer releases of previously, and to which I had added a changelog entry. It is clear that the actual maintainer, when preparing the new release, did not down

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-15 Thread Paul Slootman
On Fri 12 Dec 1997, Paul Slootman wrote: > On Thu 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: > > Andy Guy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It is different becuase the lzw patent holders (HP?) have given a > > > general license for non-profit use of the patent. > > > > That's true. It's Unisys that holds the p

RE: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-15 Thread Michael Meskes
Yes, that's what I meant. And no, I don't need it for installation, but for using the up and running system. Up to now I have to reboot to NT to be able to access the net. Argh! Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| E

RE: unstripped stuff in /usr/lib

1997-12-15 Thread Michael Meskes
I second that. Please do not put symbols in normal packages. I take it there are more people like me who have problems fitting all the packages they like to have on the disk. And symbols eat so much disk space. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL P

Re: Libc6 progress: 1997-12-12

1997-12-15 Thread Adam Heath
>Martin Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > mdutils-0.35-5(extra) I have successfully recompiled mdutils for libc6, but will have wait until another day to u/l it. I have to apply to become a maintainer, and I have stayed(sp?) up too late as it is. Adam Heath of Borg-Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Join th

Re: I'll take radiusd-merit

1997-12-15 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: : >I'd like to maintain package radiusd-merit (orphaned in 1.61 : >version of prospective-packages), if nobody is working on it yet. : : Excellent. Maybe you can find the buffer overflow when shadow support : is included? Humm... could you send me more

RE: news gateways

1997-12-15 Thread Mark Ciciretti
Please disregarde the first 10 line of my previous message. (Error with the mouse). __ Please do not look directly into laser with remaining eye. E-Mail: Mark Ciciretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 14-Dec-97 Time: 21:16:00 -- -- TO U

RE: news gateways

1997-12-15 Thread Mark Ciciretti
Add the line User-agent: * Disallow: /BugsDisallow: /Bugs /Disallow: /Bugs/ On 13-Dec-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does this mean that they are finding it through our own > WWW archives of the mailing lists? Yes. Search indexes like Yahoo index the whole site. > Do we need to add somethin

[FIXED] Re: insmod sound makes a mess

1997-12-15 Thread Will Lowe
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > Anytime I do "insmod sound" or run any program which causes kerneld to > > > > have to load the sound module, my whole system freezes for a while -- Thanks for your help. I managed to find another copy of an old .config file for my kernel compiles,

Re: I'll take radiusd-merit

1997-12-15 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Roberto Lumbreras wrote:' > >Hi! > >I'd like to maintain package radiusd-merit (orphaned in 1.61 >version of prospective-packages), if nobody is working on it yet. Excellent. Maybe you can find the buffer overflow when shadow support is included? -- Christopher J. Fearnley | Linux/In

Re: revised proposed solution (was Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken)

1997-12-15 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Remco Blaakmeer wrote:' > >On Sat, 13 Dec 1997, David Engel wrote: > >> Definitely not! libc5-dev implies that libc5 is the default >> compilation environment installed in /usr/include. > >Sorry, I must have been half asleep when I wrote the above. libc5-altdev >doesn't have to conflict with eith

Re: RAS on an NT box.

1997-12-15 Thread Philip Hands
> > You need to enable ms_chap in PPP --- see README.MSCHAP80 > > Thanks...read it. Is there any reason, besides the libraries that this > hasn't been simply built into our standard ppp package? Not that I've noticed. > How much bigger does it get if you static link libpam and libdes? I thought

I'll take radiusd-merit

1997-12-15 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
Hi! I'd like to maintain package radiusd-merit (orphaned in 1.61 version of prospective-packages), if nobody is working on it yet. Regards, Roberto Lumbreras [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] & pgp 143BE391 Lander Internet, Madrid-Spain-UE; http://www.lander.es Who the h