"Scott K. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Okay, show me how to search a HTML version of the bash info documentation
> for a concept and I'll believe you.
Absolutely, anything without regex and incremental search is broken
and unacceptable for documentation purposes (IMO).
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John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> However, why is it bad if a given program (like Elm-ME+ which I
> maintain, which brought the issue to my attention this time) uses
> *both* locking mechanisms?
The only problem I know of is that with two locking schemes, if all
programs don't agree on t
You should certainly remove libdb-dev, since libc6-dev replaces it (as
libc6 includes libdb.) I haven't done a libdb-altdev, and unless
someone asks probably won't bother (the libgdbm* packages are already
uploaded though.)
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John Goerzen wrote:
>
> OK, I've sent an e-mail to that address. It's been about 24 hours
> since that time now, so let's give him a few more days to respond. In
> the mean time, let's get somebody willing to take over xemacs just in
> case. IMHO, XEmacs is the most powerful editor in our syste
> "John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> I just sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This
John> transforms (correctly) into [EMAIL PROTECTED] scsn.net reports
John> that there is no dres user on their system.
John> Does this mean that the maintainer for XEMacs is gone?
[ CC'ed to Christian for policy question, and to Manoj for VM example. ]
Marco> Ask the users! The most people hate the info format and it's
Marco> browsers. We should include the HTML documentation in the package.
But they get html via the dwww package! Which gives them _more_ documentation
I have already released a non-maintainer upload of XEmacs 19.15 (named
XEmacs 19.15-3.1) to Incoming on Master. This package fixes that problm.
Federico Di Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Then, to get better support for my gfx board I downloaded
> the XF86 3.3-1 packages (base, svga
OK, I've sent an e-mail to that address. It's been about 24 hours
since that time now, so let's give him a few more days to respond. In
the mean time, let's get somebody willing to take over xemacs just in
case. IMHO, XEmacs is the most powerful editor in our system and we
really should keep it
No. What happened is this:
* You handed the package over to me. I uploaded several versions
into unstable. (Bug reports are now going to me.) The person
posting that message must have been using an old version, from 1.2.
I never made a release of mgetty to stable since there were no
However, why is it bad if a given program (like Elm-ME+ which I
maintain, which brought the issue to my attention this time) uses
*both* locking mechanisms?
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are
Dirk> However, Christian Schwarz asked me to do html as well. That will be
Dirk> some work as HOWTO packages comes as tar.gz files with no
Dirk> surcompassing index.html. I'll have to do some perl hacking. No
Dirk> promises for the June release, maybe for July.
Christian> Just unpack
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On 20 Jun 1997, Marco Budde wrote:
> SVD> The simplest solution is to ship html in a different package. This way
> SVD> the user will be able to choose to not install the html docs if he/she
> SVD> believes info2www is enough.
>
> Ask the users! The most people
> What would I need to do to test this if I get the machine back?
Install a bzImage kernel on the hard disk using LILO, and see if it will
boot. If it boots, it's only a problem with the floppy bootstrap. All of
our kernels are bzImage, so that should be easy to test.
Thanks
Bruc
Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Is this when booting from the floppy only, or from hard disk too?
> I suspect a software bug in SysLinux, the floppy bootstrap. Once I
> get some more data from you I will take it up with H. Peter Anvin,
> the SysLinux author.
Hmm. I don't have access t
On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Michael Meskes wrote:
> Sorry but I disagree here. For a user who only wants to debug his own
> program debugging symbols in the libraries are not needed.
>
> I'd prefer to have several packages: checker-bin, checker-libs,
> checker-dbg or something like that. Remember, we d
Am 16.06.97 schrieb sanvila # unex.es ...
Moin Santiago!
SVD> The simplest solution is to ship html in a different package. This way
SVD> the user will be able to choose to not install the html docs if he/she
SVD> believes info2www is enough.
Ask the users! The most people hate the info format a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Templin) wrote on 18.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Let me try some somewhat off-topic questions here: I really think the ISP
> is clueless and not communicating the presence of our network to its
> upstream provider. Could a bunch of you developers please try the
> foll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Douglas L Stewart) wrote on 18.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On 18 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote:
>
> > > ftpdir: /debian/hamm
> >
> > This is probably the problem. The above path is relative to the /debian
> > directory. You might try
> >
> > ftpdir: /
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 18.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The time is out of joint, o 'cursed spite.
>
> The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology will set it right
> on June 30, at one second before midnight UTC, by adding a leap second.
> Systems that run on POS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) wrote on 16.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Am 16.06.97 schrieb efraim # argh.org ...
>
> Moin Alexander!
AK>> sendmail: too complicated
> That's wrong. It's very easy to configure sendmail with the m4 scripts for
> a leaf site. And professionell system adminstra
Rob, Steve, and Co.,
Is this when booting from the floppy only, or from hard disk too?
I suspect a software bug in SysLinux, the floppy bootstrap. Once I
get some more data from you I will take it up with H. Peter Anvin,
the SysLinux author.
Thanks
Bruce
Rob Browning wrote:
>
>
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On 20 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote:
> > I think flock can fail across NFS in certain situations, but I'm no
> > locking expert.
>
> Hmm, but why would that cause a problem with mailers/programs that use
> lockfile locking *and* flock/fcntl locking at the same t
*wavewave* I'm finally ready to move my Debian box up to libc6-dev,
but it seems there are all sorts of dependancies that aren't solved by
moving to the newest version of everything (ncurses-dev, slang-dev, libg++-dev,
and libdb-dev still depend on libc5-dev..)
I took a peek at libc5-altdev, but
On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> : I seem to get caught in a routing loop at fngw-T3-prolog.NEREP.NET when I
> : try the second and third command, and it looks to me like that router is
> : misconfigured. The ISP claims that traceroute (and ping) won't work until
> : DNS is read
Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better
> > mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no
> > place where dotfile locking would work and flock-style locking would
This sounds good to me. When finished, we should announce this
on c.o.l.a. and try to see if the Red Had folks will adopt it as
well. If we both adopt it as policy, then it will live on forever!
-Erik
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> "Christian" == Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Christian> This is buggy since it's not working over NFS. (I'm
Christian> running into problems every few days since I use
Christian> sendmail/procmail/pine over a NFS mounted
Christian> /var/spool/mail !)
Chri
: > Mailboxes are locked using the username.lock lockfile convention, rather
: > than fcntl, flock or lockf.
: This is buggy since it's not working over NFS. (I'm running into problems
: every few days since I use sendmail/procmail/pine over a NFS mounted
: /var/spool/mail !)
I am using exim/exi
Hi:
Since I didn't receive any answer the first time I posted, I'm sending
this again. Hope this time someone can help me, for I'm stuck with
the problem and the only solution I see is reinstalling everything
from the scratch (sometime I thought I would never had to do with
Debian).
Thanks a lot
Does this mean I can remove my des-solnet?
Anyway, we didn't win but the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address processed
the most blocks of all email addresses.
Michael
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Rob Browning wrote:
>
> I had posted earlier about a problem getting Debian 1.2/1.3 installed
> on a 365x thinkpad. Several solutions were offered and in the end it
> turned out that the people claiming that some thinkpads could not
> handle the bzImage format were correct. It was not the
> "flo
Apparently nobody stepped forward for the wwwoffle package, so
I think I got it... my first debian package! Now, if only can
get an account on master... here's my data and pgp key:
Federico Di Gregorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
snail mail:
Via Ormea 131 Torino -- ITALY
telephone:
+39
What have libc*-dev, gdb, gcc etc. in common with debugging symbols in
checkerlibs?
When I debug my program it suffices to me to know the problem came in
the call to gets() for instance. I'm not interested in seeing more
details, simply because I expect the library to be okay. Usually I
expect a b
Hello!
I incorporated the changes mentioned by Mark Eichin.
Furthermore I noticed that there were several issues that have not
been handlied by this proposal, so I added several sections.
These tell how to handle dependences and conflicts, source packages
and bugfixes for bo. This is a lot of new
Christian Schwarz wrote:
>AFAIK, there is at least one safe way to lock a file over NFS. The
>procedure is partially explained in the open(2) man page and is also
>implemented, for example, in your "publib" library.
I've dug deeper into the NFS protocol (RFC 1057 and RFC 1094) than is
good for m
On Fri, 20 Jun 1997, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> [ Please don't Cc: public replies to me. ]
>
> John Goerzen:
> > Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better
> > mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no
> > place where dotfile locking would work and flock-
> >>Sorry but I disagree here. For a user who only wants to debug his own
> >>program debugging symbols in the libraries are not needed.
> >
> >Let's take a look at the following program:
[..]
> >gets(buffer);
[..]
> >If you feed it a line that's too long, the access violation will
> >happen d
Hello!
I incorporated the changes mentioned by Mark Eichin.
Furthermore I noticed that there were several issues that have not
been handlied by this proposal, so I added several sections.
These tell how to handle dependences and conflicts, source packages
and bugfixes for bo. This is a lot of new
> "MB" == Marco Budde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MB: The most beginners don't like info because there's no good
MB: browser. I would vote for texi2html because it look's much
MB: better than info2html and the user doesn't need a WWW server.
There is one good info browser: GNU Ema
> "Rob" == Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Rob> I think flock can fail across NFS in certain situations, but
Rob> I'm no locking expert.
You can read the man page to open(3) for a partial explaination.
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On Thu, 19 Jun 1997, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
[snip]
> However, Christian Schwarz asked me to do html as well. That will be some
> work as HOWTO packages comes as tar.gz files with no surcompassing
> index.html. I'll have to do some perl hacking. No promises for the June
> release, maybe for July
True. But I didn't say 'get rid of these symbols'. All I'd like to see
is the chance for me to install a version without symbols.
Michael
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John Goerzen wrote:
>Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better
>mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no
>place where dotfile locking would work and flock-style locking would fail...
We don't have a lock daemon for NFS.
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Michael Meskes wrote:
>Sorry but I disagree here. For a user who only wants to debug his own
>program debugging symbols in the libraries are not needed.
Let's take a look at the following program:
#include
int main()
{
char buffer[20];
gets(buffer);
printf("%s",buffer);
retur
Hi fellow testers,
I've just uploaded diald to master, and I plan to have it in Debian
1.3.1: it fixes many many packaging bugs and some diald bugs too.
It has also the neat feature of rewriting outbound packets' IP
headers stored in its buffer with dynamically allocated IPs. Neat
neat.
Can y
Sorry but I disagree here. For a user who only wants to debug his own
program debugging symbols in the libraries are not needed.
I'd prefer to have several packages: checker-bin, checker-libs,
checker-dbg or something like that. Remember, we do not distribute
debugging symbols in other libraries
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better
> mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no
> place where dotfile locking would work and flock-style locking would
> fail...
I think flock can fail across NFS in cert
Why are we using dotfile locking only? There are much better
mechanisms (flock, etc.) that should be used instead. I can see no
place where dotfile locking would work and flock-style locking would fail...
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Lars> It was decided many moons ago that Debian would use HTML as its
Lars> primary on-line documentation format. HTML should be the default.
Marco> That's right. But a lot of important packages like doc-linux don't
Marco> use HTML.
Well, the maintainer (that's me) prefers info as the b
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