Behaviour of "Conflicts:"

1997-05-13 Thread Todd Harper
[ NOTE: I don't subscribe to debian-devel, and my question is geared towards the developers, so please ensure that responses are CC:'d back to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks. ] G'Day, I'm curious about how dpkg handles the "Conflicts:" line of packages that are already installed on the machi

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Jim" == Jim Pick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Might it be possible to, say, have a list of `supported formats' -- >> .tar.gz, .zip, others? -- and at least give the option of >> downloading upstream sources which were originally in other formats >> as a tarball? This is far from ideal, fo

Re: Wishing to maintain package 'dpkg-ftp'

1997-05-13 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 13, Yann Dirson wrote > > It seems that this package hasn't evolved for quite a long time. As > there are many bug-reports, and as I worked out fixes for some of > them, I suppose its maintainer has no time for it, and I'm wishing to > maintain it. Have you tried to email the current maint

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, [This is getting silly, I really have no objection to the proposal] >>"Kai" == Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kai> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 12.05.97 in Kai> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>"Kai" == Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kai> Well, yes. Scan th

Re: dpkg verify mode for security?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> Hi, > > I was asking over Linux-ISP about doing cleanup after breakins and got > many "use tripwire" answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify > mode which checks for files which were changed since they were > installed. Can the dpkg maintainers consider adding such a feature > for Deb

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
Tom Lees wrote: > This gets more complicated. To allow for cross-compiling or bootstrapping, > some packages need to be compilable using the Source from another package, > so eg:- > > SrcPackage: xmp > Depends: awe-drv | src.awe I don't think it adds any complexity if upstream source packages,

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> How about where part of the upstream archive could go into the main > distribution, but part needs to go into non-free or non-US, even for the > sources? > > That's a case where you _must_ repack the original archive. > > > MfG Kai No. I'd just say upload the upstream sources to the non

Re: Debian and Linuxconf (again :-) ) (fwd)

1997-05-13 Thread Shaya Potter
This is the message I got from the developer. If you have any comments cc: me, as I have resubscribed to the lists yet. Shaya -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jacques Gelinas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > The point I was trying to make was that having dependencies on > binary packages would be really, really nice. This gets more complicated. To allow for cross-compiling or bootstrapping, some packages need to be compilable using the Source from another packag

dpkg verify mode for security?

1997-05-13 Thread Amos Shapira
Hi, I was asking over Linux-ISP about doing cleanup after breakins and got many "use tripwire" answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify mode which checks for files which were changed since they were installed. Can the dpkg maintainers consider adding such a feature for Debian? Chees, -

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1997-05-13 Thread WOA KADER
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I'm (almost) back (and Linuxconf)

1997-05-13 Thread Shaya Potter
I am almost finished with my AP's, only having Biology tomorrow. During my free time I have thaught up a way that may allow us to use Linuxconf, and all of it's starting/stoping features w/o replacing init. The author of linuxconf liked the idea so it looks like we might have an easier time

Re: Bug#9242: dpkg: dpkg could be smart about Changes information

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Ian Jackson wrote: > > It would be useful if the kind of information sent to the debian-changes > > mailing list were integrated into dpkg. For available updated packages, a > > user > > could use information about the number and Urgency: of each intervening > > update. > >

Wishing to maintain package 'dpkg-ftp'

1997-05-13 Thread Yann Dirson
It seems that this package hasn't evolved for quite a long time. As there are many bug-reports, and as I worked out fixes for some of them, I suppose its maintainer has no time for it, and I'm wishing to maintain it. If I get no response within a week, I'll take for granted that there's no opposi

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > > You might want to unpack a source package for other reasons than > > to build it -- e.g., I've sometimes searched for documentation. A > > non-programmer might want to do this so that they can typeset the > > documentation in LaTeX, instead of printing out

Re: Bug#8794: wrong arch declaration in dpkg.

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Ian Jackson wrote: > > The good definition of powerpc processors is 'powerpc', not 'ppc'. > > Was this issue settled ? This will be hard to change later, so it's > important to get it right quickly. I believe it was. > > --- archtable Thu Feb 27 21:53:23 1997 > > +++ arc

Re: Sending closed bug notices to interested parties.

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Chris Walker wrote: > Further to the announcement from Ian Jackson about the creation of a > mailing list for closed bugs > > There may be circumstances when I wish to know if a bug has been closed, > but am not the person who reported the bug (eg I want to know when the

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Joey Hess wrote: > Kai Henningsen: > > Remember: no shell scripts in the source packages that are needed for > > unpacking. It's just too dangerous. > > I don't understand why this is more dangerous than debian/rules. Why? You don't get to review it before it's run. -- T

Re: Bug system `followup' messages

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On 12 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Hi, > > I think, from the volume of discussion on bugs-dist, that most > developers have signed up on that list (and I at least follow it > quite diligently). I would rather not clutter up debian-devel with > that traffic (if we send all reports

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Joey Hess wrote: > Lars Wirzenius: > > They might not understand enough about shell scripts (or Perl, or > > whatever the script is written in) and whatever tools the script uses > > to make an informed decision of whether the script is safe. With the > > current scheme, they

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Mortimer) wrote on 13.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On May 12, Jim Pick wrote > > > > Excellent write-up, Klee. Thanks for doing it. > > I second this; a lot of thought has obviously gone into this, and it > shows! Me too! > > > * [1.1] It must be possible to recon

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 12.05.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>"Kai" == Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Kai>> Well, yes. Scan the temp dir after unpacking. If it contains one Kai>> directory and nothing else, that directory is the main package Kai>> directory. If i

Re: compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: > I have been trying for some time to solve Bug #8882 against the 'sp' > package, which says that in order to make it buildable under glibc, > I need to call libintl as well as libnls in order to accommodate glibc, > and to define LINUX_TYPES_H for gl

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On 12 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> say that if the source is well behaved (that is, it is a tar file > >> that unpacks into *some* directory other than ., compressed or > > Kai> You seem to think a tar that unpacks into "." is a problem. I > Kai> still fail to see why. > > Kai> Just un

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > > > If someone wants to contribute to an effort to clone a toolkit, they'd > > probably be much better off contributing to the WINE project (Windows > > emulator) or Jolt project (Java clone - kaffe, biss-awt, guavac, etc.). > > What do you think about "L

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: > If someone wants to contribute to an effort to clone a toolkit, they'd > probably be much better off contributing to the WINE project (Windows > emulator) or Jolt project (Java clone - kaffe, biss-awt, guavac, etc.). What do you think about "Lesstiff"? --

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> Jim Pick wrote: > > Even if we wrote one, I doubt the KDE guys, especially Matthias Ettrich, > > would > > be willing to use it. Really an unfortunate situation, IMHO. :-( Noel Maddy wrote: > Berate me for missing the obvious, but couldn't KDE just be compiled with > a QT clone for Debian?

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
> > Please clarify - unpacking a Debian source package is different > > than unpacking an upstream source package (which may require tar, > > unzip, zoo, lha, jar, etc.). Right? Andy Mortimer wrote: > Personally, I'd be inclined to disagree here, especially given [1.5] > below. If I've gone to

Re: compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: > I have been trying for some time to solve Bug #8882 against the 'sp' > package, which says that in order to make it buildable under glibc, > I need to call libintl as well as libnls in order to accommodate glibc,

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On May 13, David Engel wrote > This problem is not that simple. With the current dpkg, there is no > way to fix this even with a statically linked cp or ln. This is > because dpkg will remove ld-linux.so.1 before any postinst script gets > a chance to repair the damage. How about putting somethi

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread David Engel
On May 13, joost witteveen wrote > > On May 11, joost witteveen wrote > > > I just downgraded my ldso from the one in unstable, to the one > > > in bo, and I appear to be left with a system that doesn't have > > > a dynamic linker! > > > > This is because of a change from a hard link to a symlink

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Noel Maddy
Jim Pick wrote: > Vincent Renardias wrote: > >A while ago there has been a thread about KDE and Qt's licence; some > > people (can't remember who) told they were interested into re-writting a > > GPL'd clone of Qt (possibly on the top on LessTif). What's the status on > > this? I.e: has someo

compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
I have been trying for some time to solve Bug #8882 against the 'sp' package, which says that in order to make it buildable under glibc, I need to call libintl as well as libnls in order to accommodate glibc, and to define LINUX_TYPES_H for glibc. I made those changes and could no longer get the p

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread joost witteveen
> On May 11, joost witteveen wrote > > I just downgraded my ldso from the one in unstable, to the one > > in bo, and I appear to be left with a system that doesn't have > > a dynamic linker! > > This is because of a change from a hard link to a symlink in one of > the 1.9.x versions. I'm not sure

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Andy Mortimer
On May 12, Jim Pick wrote > > Excellent write-up, Klee. Thanks for doing it. I second this; a lot of thought has obviously gone into this, and it shows! > Since I've been attacking this topic lately, I'll try to post some (hopefully) > constructive criticisms. But, overall, I agree with what y

Re: Ideas for `bug'.

1997-05-13 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 13, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote > On Mon, 12 May 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > > > no. bug should prompt the user with a list of conffiles before the > > editor is called. then the user will select the config files to be > > included, and leater in the editor he can edit them (like replac

Please remove your /dev/cu* devices !

1997-05-13 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 12, Brian C. White wrote > The following message is a list of items to be completed for the upcoming > releases of Debian GNU/Linux. If something is missing, incorrect, or you want > to take responsibility for one or more items, please send email to: > Brian White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...

Re: Splitting the debian-changes list...

1997-05-13 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 12, Tom Lees wrote > On Wed, 7 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: > > > Perhaps you can split dinstall into two scripts: One script that is run, > > say once an hour, that just checks incoming for new uploads and posts the > > .changes files in the appropriate lists. This script could check