On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
> ...
> > > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not
> > > notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the
> >
Package: netstd
Version: 2.06-1
muskogee:richard$ uname -a
Linux muskogee 2.0.13 #1 Tue Aug 20 18:45:22 BST 1996 i486
muskogee:richard$ ftp wigwam
Connected to wigwam.elmail.co.uk.
220 wigwam.elmail.co.uk CheckPoint FireWall-1 authenticated ftp server ready
Name (wigwam:richard): richard
331-aftpd
Package: kernel-package
Version: 2.03
The man page for make-kpkg has a few typos, some of which refer to file
names and might therefore cause confusion. A diff file is attached.
Susan Kleinmann
*** make-kpkg.8 Thu Aug 22 10:40:19 1996
--- make-kpkg.8.rev Thu Aug 22 10:56:23 1996
**
Package: xbase
Version: 3.1.2-9
The startx script does not initialize the X Magic Cookies when
X is started up. This can be a significant security hole.
I would suggest adding a line like
xauth add :0 . `dd if=/dev/urandom count=1 bs=16 | md5sum`
to startx (ok, so md5sum is merely the fastest
Package: bison
Version: A2.6-12
The following input file (which contains errors, I know :-) causes
bison to dump core.
I have no idea wether this is a libc or a bison error. Gdb tells me
the following:
$ gdb /usr/bin/bison core
GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it
On Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:01:47 -0400 I wrote:
< re pppd and slirp
I must have been really tired when I sent this -- I don't know why I
wrote debian-devel in the To: list. Well, nobody responded but I
figured it out anyway. It seems as though problem was likely to come
partly from the kernel not h
> Package: tin
> Version: 1.3beta.950824-12
>
> The default value of TIN_NOVROOTDIR is /var/lib/news. The Debian INN uses
> /var/lib/news/over.view to store the overview database.
>
> The result of this problem is two overview databases one in /var/lib/news and
> one in
> /var/lib/news/over.vie
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 11:59 PDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens)
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org (Debian Development)
Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> I would propose to go for shadow for 1.2.
> In the mean time, I will try to make a few applications PAM-aware,
> to wet my f
> Package: bind
> Version: 4.9.3-P1-3
>
> `dig' really belongs in the `dnsutils' package, not the `bind'
> package; just because one is not running a local name server does not
> imply that one doens't want to use `dig' to look things up.
>
May I suggest that the "nslookup" in the dnsutils packa
Richard> Package: manpages
Richard> Version: 1.11-4
...
Richard> No manual entry for acct in section 5
I wrote a realy minimial acct(5) for the acct package which basically refers
back to acct(2), see below.
As acct.h is in the kernel source, and hence in libc5-dev, this acct.5 (or
an impr
> Erick Branderhorst writes ("$(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
>> Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure
>> and $(ARCH)-debian-linux?
>>
>> If so can it specified in the guidelines.
>> If not what should we use?
>
> $(ARCH)-debian-linux, but $(ARCH) should usually be 486
If anyone out there has pppd working with slirp, I would surely
appreciate getting a copy of their chat and options file (remember to
edit our the password!).
I've been trying on and off for weeks now, spending 15 minutes trying
to figure out why pppd dials, seems to connect, and then hangs up
> All packages in the Debian distribution proper must be freely useable,
> modifiable and redistributable in both source and binary form. It must
> be possible for anyone to distribute and use modified source code and
> their own own compiled binaries, at least when they do so a
From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Further to this discussion, I'm going to write into the policy manual
> that manpages should be installed compressed using gzip -9.
Good. I said it was OK to start doing it a while back, but I never said
_everyone_ should do it, and no doubt I should have sa
Package: manpages
Version: 1.11-4
According to `man 2 acct':
SEE ALSO
acct(5)
But:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:richard$ man 5 acct
No manual entry for acct in section 5
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:richard$
--
Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict with
it"):
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > David Engel writes ("Re: Bug#3838: GCC should depend on CPP, not conflict
> > with it"):
> > ...
> > > Because they're designed to work together. That's why the FSF
> > > includes cpp w
Damn, it looks like my comment
Before anyone changes anything, please read the appropriate part of
the new policy manual.
went unheeded. I see that the change that Daniel Quinlan requested
has been made. It's a shame that I didn't get around to writing this
more detailed response to the situati
Package: sysklogd
Version: 1.3-10
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle syslogd 1.3-0#10: restart.
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle kernel: klogd 1.3-0, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle syslogd 1.3-0#10: restart.
Aug 21 13:59:47 beagle syslogd: select: Bad file number
Aug 21 14:00:17 beagle last mes
Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.64-1
The file /etc/init.d/network is a dpkg-handled conffile, despite
containing important site-specific configuration information which is
set up by the base disks.
Files manipulated by installation scripts should not be dpkg-handled
conffiles.
Ian.
Package: sysvinit
Version: 2.64-1
The file /etc/init.d/skeleton should use `set -e' as this is good
practice and it is an example script.
Ian.
Yves> I remember that a long time ago it was said that it was okay to gzip
Yves> manual pages because the manual reader did handle them nicely?
Lars> Our man seems to handle them OK. Since there can be tens of
Lars> megabytes of manual pages (I have 18 MB), I think compressing them
Lar
Bruce Perens writes ("Bug#4129: dselect 1.3.0 infelicity"):
> If I position the selection bar on "All Brokenly Installed Packages" and press
> the "-" key, _all_ packages are de-selected, not just the brokenly installed
> ones. This is counter-intuitive.
`counter-intuitive' ?! You're a master of
I wrote:
> Michael Alan Dorman writes ("New source format and related issues..."):
> ...
> > dpkg-source: building hello in hello_1.3.orig.tar.gz
> > tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
> > Try `tar --help' for more information.
> > dpkg-source: failure: tar gave error exit status 2
.
Bruce, if you feel it is appropriate, I'd like you to use your magic
fiat power to end the discussion about lyx, contrib, and so forth, by
endorsing the appropriate part of the new policy manual. I've
attached a copy below.
According to that part lyx, all the Motif packages and the compress
insta
joost witteveen wrote:
>
> >
> > >Shouldn't the "paper size" be an attribute of a print queue, and not an
> > >attribute of a machine?
>
> Well, it could be argued that Yvess libppaper could look at
> the current $PRINTER setting, and select the correct papersize
> depending on the /etc/papersize
Daniel Lynes writes ("Non-existent .deb's"):
> Just a thought, but I was wondering if perhaps the dselect program
> could be modified to allow for it to not allow you to be able to select
> .deb archives that are non-existent? I've noticed that for the .deb
> archives that I haven't downloaded, th
Erick Branderhorst writes ("$(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu"):
> Should we use $(ARCH)-debian-linux-gnu as parameter for ./configure
> and $(ARCH)-debian-linux?
>
> If so can it specified in the guidelines.
> If not what should we use?
$(ARCH)-debian-linux, but $(ARCH) should usually be 486,
shouldn't
Michael Alan Dorman writes ("Re: New package standards - LAST CALL "):
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ian Jackson writes:
> >Therefore I propose that unless someone raises a serious problem or
> >issue within the next week or two the new packaging guidelines as
> >described in the draft dpkg pro
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "):
> On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote:
...
> > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not
> > notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the
> > kind of `mistake' our dependency scheme should try
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: CC's on this mailing list"):
...
> However, there are several people who post to the lists, but don't read
> them, who ask to be responded to directly. Maybe we should just require
> that these people suffer reading the lists like the rest of us?
Yes. It is rude to post
Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Documentation formats"):
> if we standardize the names for the alternate formats, can we also
> have, for each format foo, a virtual foo-viewer package, and include
> it in the dependencies? (That will, as a side effect, make it easier
> to determine which formats are supp
Mark Eichin writes ("Re: Documentation formats"):
> [Ian asked:]
> > (Is texi2html any good?)
>
> http://www.cygnus.com/ (and I'm sure other places) has texi2html'ed
> versions of gnu compiler-related tools, if you want a quick look at
> them.
Thanks. They do look reasonable.
Ian.
Since we need closure on this I'm mandating this change in the new
policy manual and source package format.
I'll also mandate that the debian/changelog file be included, in
/usr/doc//changelog.Debian.gz, or changelog.gz for a package
whose upstream and Debian maintainers are the same.
Ian.
Further to this discussion, I'm going to write into the policy manual
that manpages should be installed compressed using gzip -9.
Ian.
In order to solve some tricky problems to do with
architecture-independent files being produced and uploaded as a result
of per-architecture porting builds, I'm splitting the `binary' target
into two:
binary-arch will build the architecture dependent binary packages and
files. For a straightforwa
Package: tin
Version: 1.3beta.950824-12
The default value of TIN_NOVROOTDIR is /var/lib/news. The Debian INN uses
/var/lib/news/over.view to store the overview database.
The result of this problem is two overview databases one in /var/lib/news and
one in
/var/lib/news/over.view. Plus there is a
Patrick Weemeeuw writes:
> I would propose to go for shadow for 1.2.
> In the mean time, I will try to make a few applications PAM-aware,
> to wet my feet and to gain some insight about how simple or complex
> things are. After all, it's not a black or white thing, but we can
> PAMify application
Package: ghostview
Version: 1.5-8
When I installed this version of ghostview, it issued the message
cat: /etc/papersize: no such file or directory
but didn't return a non-zero exit status to dpkg, which therefore
assumed that the installation had succeeded.
This is two bugs. Firstly it shou
Package: mosaic
Version: 2.7b5-2
See the page
http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ijackson/bad-mailto.html> (a copy of
the page is included below).
If you load this page in Mosaic and click on the `spong' URL you will
see a dialogue box offering to send mail to
`ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk', and if
Package: lynx
Version: 2.4-FM-960316-1
See the page
http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ijackson/bad-mailto.html> (a copy of
the page is included below).
If you load this page in lynx and select the `spong' you will enter a
dialogue offering to send mail to `ijackson%40chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk',
and if you
Package: mosaic
Version: 2.7b5-2
See the page
http://chiark.chu.cam.ac.uk/~ijackson/nested-markup.html> (a copy
of the page and an xwd of the output produced by 2.7b5 on my mono
display is included below).
As you can see:
* doesn't work correctly inside - it overrides the
italics produced by .
Knews should handle an upgrade more intelligently and not simply overwrite
the (possibly customized) /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults/Knews
configuration file.
I know this is difficult to do right. A lot of Knews functionality depends
on a working Knews.ad and what is necessary there changes from r
You (Bruce Perens) wrote:
> About the funniest part is trying to find a pay phone. Many countries
> only have them in post offices. When I visited Australia, there were
> blue phones and gold phones, and only the gold ones could make long
> distance calls.
But when you have the right phone, and yo
Package: mosaic
Version: 2.7b5-2
When I run Mosaic on a mono X terminal the 3d button borders and so
forth are not highlighted or coloured correctly, making them difficult
to see and use.
Below are two xwd files, one created by Debian's Mosaic 2.7b5-2 and
one by an OSF/1 installation of Mosaic 2.
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Date: 21 Aug 96 17:23 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: pixmap
Version: 2.6pl2-1
Binary: pixmap
Architecture: i386 source
Description:
pixmap: A pixmap editor.
Changes:
* upgraded upstr
Package: bind
Version: 4.9.3-P1-3
`dig' really belongs in the `dnsutils' package, not the `bind'
package; just because one is not running a local name server does not
imply that one doens't want to use `dig' to look things up.
--
Richard Kettlewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You (Rob Leslie) wrote:
> Package: inn
> Version: 1.4unoff4-1
>
> deimos:~:[2]# dpkg --purge inn
> (Reading database ... 20824 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing inn ...
> Trying to stop INN..
> Removing crontab for news..
> Removing files in /var/log/news and /var/run/innd..
>
From: Miquel van Smoorenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But when you have the right phone, and you know the trick with the
> Follow button you can dial for free (even internationally!).
If you get caught they are less likely to let you visit their country
again :-) . I got a speeding ticket from the da
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Date: 21 Aug 96 17:00 UT
Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: joost witteveen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: screen
Version: 3.7.1-7
Binary: screen
Architecture: i386 source
Description:
screen: A screen manager with VT100/ANSI terminal em
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