Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adam Borowski dixit: >package would need to ship /etc/passwd and /etc/group them somehow divert >them away so it's installed only the first time. On the other hand, it is You cannot divert conffiles… -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-bugs-rc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubsc

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-08 Thread Adam Borowski
Control: reassign -1 base-passwd Control: retitle -1 makes base-files fail to install during bootstrap Control: found -1 3.5.36 Control: fixed -1 3.5.37 On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 07:47:42PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > First of all thanks to everyone for the efforts to fix these problems. It

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2014-11-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > reassign -1 base-passwd Bug #767999 [dpkg] dpkg: Correct fix breaks bogus assumptions in old debootstrap Bug reassigned from package 'dpkg' to 'base-passwd'. No longer marked as found in versions dpkg/1.17.21 and dpkg/1.17.20. Ignoring

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hello Guillem, All, First of all thanks to everyone for the efforts to fix these problems. It seems we've now got fixes in place both in (c)debootstrap and base-passwd, so hopefully we're fine for the next few releases... :-) On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 17:38:06 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Fri,

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Guillem Jover
ntroduces again an > > unnecessary package queue stage, and such regression is acceptable if > > it makes buggy bootstrappers work again. But a fixed debootstrap (and > > maybe cdebootstrap if that fails too) should really be pushed to stable. > > I think you might want to h

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Santiago Vila (2014-11-07): > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > > To stick with Santiago's earlier wording, we are now shooting the next > > messenger (this time dpkg, after first working hard against base-files). > > Indeed. I would not like to see dpkg as the next "victim" of t

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > To stick with Santiago's earlier wording, we are now shooting the next > messenger (this time dpkg, after first working hard against base-files). Indeed. I would not like to see dpkg as the next "victim" of this problem. Being able to bootstrap jes

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Guillem Jover wrote: > I'm going to revert the commit above (only in 1.17.x, it will be kept > in 1.18.x), because it is very minimal, just reintroduces again an > unnecessary package queue stage, and such regression is acceptable if > it makes buggy bootstrappers work again. B

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Tautschnig
ackage queue stage, and such regression is acceptable if > it makes buggy bootstrappers work again. But a fixed debootstrap (and > maybe cdebootstrap if that fails too) should really be pushed to stable. > I think you might want to hold off on this revert. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767999#73 and Adam's kind testing of that patch. Best, Michael pgp23kcAkYfVZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-07 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi, On Fri, Nov 07, 2014 at 1:02:18 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:32:34PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > > I tested your patch when debootstrapping from squeeze, it did work. > > > Should > > > I test some more scenarios (cdebootstrap? 2-phase cross-arch deboot

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2014-11-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > severity -1 serious Bug #767999 [dpkg] base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Severity set to 'serious' from 'grave' > retitle -1 dpkg: Correct fix breaks bogus assumptions in old debootstrap Bug #767999 [dpkg] base-files:

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Control: severity -1 serious Control: retitle -1 dpkg: Correct fix breaks bogus assumptions in old debootstrap On Fri, 2014-11-07 at 02:33:48 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-05): > > But, from where I stand, several developers were actually checking facts > > after I che

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-06 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Control: tag -1 -patch Control: reassign -1 dpkg 1.17.21 Control: affects -1 debootstrap [ Context: debootstrap/wheezy is now unable to debootstrap either jessie or sid. ] Cyril Brulebois (2014-11-05): > > I'm not calling Adam's proposal insane. His proposal is just wrong. > > What I was calling

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2014-11-06 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tag -1 -patch Bug #767999 [debootstrap] base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Removed tag(s) patch. > reassign -1 dpkg 1.17.21 Bug #767999 [debootstrap] base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Bug reassigned from p

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:32:34PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > I tested your patch when debootstrapping from squeeze, it did work. Should > > I test some more scenarios (cdebootstrap? 2-phase cross-arch debootstrap? > > some other distro?) -- or do you think it should be safe? > > Cool,

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 10:44:40PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > B) If base-passwd violates policy, then base-passwd is buggy. > > I say it is, but since the only consumer that matters is base-files, it > might be safer to change the latter. The "only consumer that matters"? What do you mean?

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-06 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > [ BCC'ing Santiago, Holger, Adam, Cyril ] > > Hi all, > > I'm refraining from quoting the preceding mails as most of you will have those > in their inbox, and I'd rather summarise the situation right here: > > At least Santiag

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-06 Thread Michael Tautschnig
Hi, On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 22:44:40 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: [...] > > 1. Determine whether base-passwd is in line with policy on providing its > > functionality as an "essential" package. > > A) If it is, then debootstrap

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 02:06:07PM +, Michael Tautschnig wrote: > At least Santiago's and my opinion diverge on whether base-passwd is presently > in line with policy on 3.8 Essential packages. Therefore the route from here > appears to hinge on interpreting policy in one of two ways: my point

Bug#767999: debootstrap/base-passwd: #767999 and #766459 should really be fixed in base-passwd

2014-11-06 Thread Michael Tautschnig
[ BCC'ing Santiago, Holger, Adam, Cyril ] Hi all, I'm refraining from quoting the preceding mails as most of you will have those in their inbox, and I'd rather summarise the situation right here: At least Santiago's and my opinion diverge on whether base-passwd is presently in line with policy o

Bug#767999: problem with debootstrap in wheezy

2014-11-06 Thread Santiago Vila
Note: dpkg 1.17.21 has migrated to testing, and, as a result, the current debootstrap in wheezy is now unable to create chroots for both jessie and sid (previously it was only sid and jessie still worked). As of today, in jessie we still have base-files 7.6. So, as I suspected, the recent changes

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Santiago Vila (2014-11-05): > Yes, I am upset, because I've explained too many times already why it > is not a bug in base-files, and why trying to fix it in base-files > would be a complete and ugly hack, and yet people keep filing bugs > about base-files, killing the messenger, so to speak. I'v

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:04:55AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mittwoch, 5. November 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: > > Adam Borowski, STOP this insanity! > > STOP IT! > > It seems to me that you are quite upset about this bug, yet I fail > to see why, really. Yes, I am upset, because I've expla

Bug#767999:

2014-11-05 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014, Adam Borowski wrote: > How do you propose changing debootstrap on already burned CDs? I don't. Instead, those having a buggy version of debootstrap in a burned CD should better try to find a non buggy version on Internet. Proposing that we should make the entire Debian archiv

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-05 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Santiago, On Mittwoch, 5. November 2014, Santiago Vila wrote: > Adam Borowski, STOP this insanity! > STOP IT! It seems to me that you are quite upset about this bug, yet I fail to see why, really. A bug is nothing bad, it's just an id to track things... Also, you ignored a quite significant

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-05 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 767999 debootstrap thanks Adam Borowski, STOP this insanity! STOP IT! > > (And you should really read the full logs for Bug#766459 to understand > > this instead of killing the messenger > > The guilty party for this bug is either base-files or base-passwd. Wrong. It's debootstrap ins

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2014-11-05 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 767999 debootstrap Bug #767999 [base-files] base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Bug reassigned from package 'base-files' to 'debootstrap'. No longer marked as found in versions base-files/7

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2014-11-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > retitle -1 base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Bug #767999 [debootstrap] please upload for stable Changed Bug title to 'base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap' from 'please upload for stable' >

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-04 Thread Adam Borowski
Control: retitle -1 base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Control: reassign -1 base-files Control: found -1 base-files/7.6 Control: tags -1 +patch (TL;DR: there's a working patch attached) On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 09:04:14AM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at

Processed: Bug#767999

2014-11-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > retitle 767999 please upload for stable Bug #767999 [debootstrap] base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Changed Bug title to 'please upload for stable' from 'base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie deb

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2014-11-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 767999 debootstrap Bug #767999 [base-files] base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap Bug reassigned from package 'base-files' to 'debootstrap'. No longer marked as found in versions base-files/7.

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-04 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign 767999 debootstrap thanks People who do not understand the essential flag keep filing bugs against base-files. Kind debootstrap maintainers: I think it's about time that you make an upload for stable fixing this. I've heard that the fix is already in git, so apparently it's just a matter

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-04 Thread Santiago Vila
reassign -1 debootstrap thanks On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 01:05:11AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > Package: base-files > Version: 7.10 > Severity: grave > > W: Failure trying to run: chroot /tmp/unstable/. dpkg --force-depends > --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_7.10_i386.deb > /var/cache

Bug#767999: base-files: fails to install with pre-jessie debootstrap

2014-11-03 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: base-files Version: 7.10 Severity: grave W: Failure trying to run: chroot /tmp/unstable/. dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/base-files_7.10_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/base-passwd_3.5.36_i386.deb While #766459 fixed debootstrapping with jessie's debootstrap, I'm