Bug#603680: Bug#587279: Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-21 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > The problem is the expectation of the developers that wrote the Depends > line: they expected that the non-free or-group would not replace the > free group unless the user installed the non-free alternative before. As a developer, that's not what I expect. I expect the

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Steve, On Montag, 22. November 2010, Steve Langasek wrote: > If you conclude that this is something that needs to be documented in the > release notes, please reassign it to the release-notes pseudopackage. > However, there have been other reports that trying to upgrade apt first > before upgra

Processed: Re: Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 603680 apt Bug #603680 [apt,upgrade-reports] libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny Bug reassigned from package 'apt,upgrade-reports' to 'apt'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need a

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-21 Thread Steve Langasek
reassign 603680 apt thanks I don't see anything here that requires further triaging in terms of an upgrade report - the upgrade failure seems to be well understood. If you conclude that this is something that needs to be documented in the release notes, please reassign it to the release-notes pse

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-21 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:26:37PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > There are a variety of licenses in non-free and a user (or their lawyers) > > can be > > fine with some of them but not all. The choice of non-free packages > > installed > > should remain with the users. > > Now apt is just

Bug#603680: Bug#587279: Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:26:37PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 21:06, Bill Allombert > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:44:43PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> if you intend to reply to this subthread, please use the 587279 bug. > > > >> On Mittwoch, 17. Novemb

Bug#603680: Bug#587279: Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-19 Thread Russ Allbery
Bill Allombert writes: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:44:43PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: >> Bill, so far you're the only one in #587279 objecting to the >> clarification making the what-you-call "strange interpretation" crystal >> clear (and following the way it was always handled). > Nobody in #

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-19 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 21:06, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:44:43PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: >> if you intend to reply to this subthread, please use the 587279 bug. > >> On Mittwoch, 17. November 2010, Bill Allombert wrote: >> > I do not think it is correct to ever upgrade

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-19 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 03:44:43PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > if you intend to reply to this subthread, please use the 587279 bug. > On Mittwoch, 17. November 2010, Bill Allombert wrote: > > I do not think it is correct to ever upgrade a free package to a non-free > > one. Now, apt is

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-19 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, as I was asked on IRC, this is how piuparts modifies apt+dpkgs defaults, "most interestingly" it doesnt install recommends...: def create_apt_conf(self): """Create /etc/apt/apt.conf inside the chroot.""" create_file(self.relative("etc/apt/apt.conf"),

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi David, On Mittwoch, 17. November 2010, David Kalnischkies wrote: > the message I meant was: > > > E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be > > > caused by held packages. > > that should be an error message from APT and I can't trigger this one - > it would be a seri

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, if you intend to reply to this subthread, please use the 587279 bug. On Mittwoch, 17. November 2010, Bill Allombert wrote: > I do not think it is correct to ever upgrade a free package to a non-free > one. Now, apt is not at fault, the problem rather lie in a strange > interpretation of polic

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Allombert
[Debian policy: For reference, this is bug #603680. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:59:00PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:34, Bill Allombert > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:35:55PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > [… snip …] > >> apt-squeeze recently (see #5918

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:34, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:35:55PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: [… snip …] >> apt-squeeze recently (see #591882) got a third option: >> c) try installing another or-group member >> >> Note that while c) seems to be the "captain obvious" so

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:24, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Dienstag, 16. November 2010, David Kalnischkies wrote: >> First of all: I can't reproduce this E:-message, > > thats from piuparts... the message I meant was: > > E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be > > cau

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:35:55PM +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 15:21, Holger Levsen wrote: > > as I was asked on IRC, this is how piuparts modifies apt+dpkgs > > defaults, "most interestingly" it doesnt install recommends...: > > And that is the reason. (or at leas

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-17 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi David, thanks for your analysis! On Dienstag, 16. November 2010, David Kalnischkies wrote: > First of all: I can't reproduce this E:-message, thats from piuparts... > So, what we could do now? > If i see it correctly, we basically have two options: > a) use a newer apt for upgrade > b) drop

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 21:35:55 +0100, David Kalnischkies wrote: > So, what we could do now? > If i see it correctly, we basically have two options: > a) use a newer apt for upgrade > b) drop the or > > b) isn't really an option as other cases will arise (and have already) so > i guess the relea

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-16 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 15:21, Holger Levsen wrote: > as I was asked on IRC, this is how piuparts modifies apt+dpkgs > defaults, "most interestingly" it doesnt install recommends...: And that is the reason. (or at least the trigger) First of all: I can't reproduce this E:-message, what i can se

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 14:10:42 +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > What happens according to the log (attached to this bug) is: > > 1. nautilius-share is installed in lenny > 2. sources.lists are changed to squeeze > 3. apt-get update > 4. apt-get -yf dist-upgrade fails as quoted above > I can't rep

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-16 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 603680 apt,upgrade-reports thanks Hi, On Dienstag, 16. November 2010, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 à 12:00 +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit : > > during a test with piuparts I noticed your package breaks > > nautilus-share's upgrade from lenny. Both installed fine in l

Processed: Re: Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-16 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 603680 apt,upgrade-reports Bug #603680 [libnautilus-extension1] libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny Bug reassigned from package 'libnautilus-extension1' to 'apt,upgrade-reports'. Bug No longer marked as found

Bug#603680: libnautilus-extension1: breaks nautilus-share upgrade from lenny

2010-11-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 à 12:00 +0100, Holger Levsen a écrit : > during a test with piuparts I noticed your package breaks nautilus-share's > upgrade from lenny. Both installed fine in lenny, then the upgrade to squeeze > fails. > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libnaut