Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-10-20 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:39:28PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > gcjwebplugin is a Java plugin for web browsers. It does not include the > > security manager which is a crucial part of the "sandboxing" of Java > > applets. The maintainers have "fixed" this bug (#2670

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-29 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:39:28PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > gcjwebplugin is a Java plugin for web browsers. It does not include the > security manager which is a crucial part of the "sandboxing" of Java > applets. The maintainers have "fixed" this bug (#267040) merely by > adding a warning p

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:11:45PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:12:54PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: ... > When a user navigates to a web page, they want to see that page. Any > prompts on the way tend to be interpreted as "do you want to see this > web page or not?

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:11:45PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I can't believe you're actually arguing that the solution against blindly > > trusting a website is blindly trusting a binary blob. > > I would rather use a secure free plugin than a secure non-free plugin, > but apparently that do

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-10 Thread Robert Millan
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 11:11:45PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > It's not arbitrary. As it stands, this package is a security hole > just waiting to be exploited if it gets released. I take it "gdebi" (or whatever it's called) is also a security hole then? It installs untrusted data when the use

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-09 Thread peter green
I can't believe you're actually arguing that the solution against blindly trusting a website is blindly trusting a binary blob. I would rather use a secure free plugin than a secure non-free plugin, but apparently that doesn't exist. Since the choice is between a secure non-free plugin and an i

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 03:12:54PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > [ whoops, resending again...] > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:51:55PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > > > How is this different from the multitude of interfaces in the system in > > > which data is assumed to be trusted? > >

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Millan
[ whoops, resending again...] On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:51:55PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > How is this different from the multitude of interfaces in the system in > > which data is assumed to be trusted? > > Data from the network is generally treated as untrusted; The user is in char

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:51:55PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > How is this different from the multitude of interfaces in the system in > > which data is assumed to be trusted? > > Data from the network is generally treated as untrusted; The user is in charge. Data from the network becom

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 05:02:11PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:39:28PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > gcjwebplugin is a Java plugin for web browsers. It does not include the > > security manager which is a crucial part of the "sandboxing" of Java > > applets. The mai

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Millan
[ sorry for the duplicate, my first reply didn't get to -release ] On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:39:28PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > gcjwebplugin is a Java plugin for web browsers. It does not include the > security manager which is a crucial part of the "sandboxing" of Java > applets. The maint

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-08 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Sep 07, 2008 at 05:39:28PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > gcjwebplugin is a Java plugin for web browsers. It does not include the > security manager which is a crucial part of the "sandboxing" of Java > applets. The maintainers have "fixed" this bug (#267040) merely by > adding a warning p

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Ben Hutchings] > Please do not include it in lenny. (Unfortunately it is built from > the classpath source package, so that will have to be modified to > remove it.) Are there any free applet plugins available in main now? Perhaps the gcjwebplugin should be replaced by something from openjdk?

Bug#267040: gcjwebplugin runs untrusted code without sandbox

2008-09-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
gcjwebplugin is a Java plugin for web browsers. It does not include the security manager which is a crucial part of the "sandboxing" of Java applets. The maintainers have "fixed" this bug (#267040) merely by adding a warning prompt before running applets, which is well known to be an insufficient