Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On Wed, 15 May 2019 23:05:29 +0100 Justin B Rye wrote: > Karl O. Pinc wrote: > > Yes. But you do "Preparing for the next release" _after_ upgrade. > > My suggestion is to _also_ tell people to get rid of obsolete > > packages before they start to upgrade. > > Ah, now I see where it fits. Okay,

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Justin B Rye
Karl O. Pinc wrote: > Yes. But you do "Preparing for the next release" _after_ upgrade. > My suggestion is to _also_ tell people to get rid of obsolete > packages before they start to upgrade. Ah, now I see where it fits. Okay, revised patch. > Maybe the problem is in the title "Preparing for t

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On Wed, 15 May 2019 22:17:10 +0100 Justin B Rye wrote: > Karl O. Pinc: > > I like that "aptitude remove" also removes dependent packages > > not otherwise required. It also seemed to be more of a > > one-stop-shop, so once I know how to search I can use the > > same search to install/purge/etc.

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Justin B Rye
Karl O. Pinc: > I can only give you my story. > > I chose aptitude ages ago for several reasons. At the time > it had a better dependency resolution than apt-get. I don't > even recall apt existing, or maybe it did but didn't do much. /usr/bin/apt is recent enough that we've only just got the r

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Quick Summary: Sounds good to me. Go for it. On Wed, 15 May 2019 15:39:54 +0100 Justin B Rye wrote: > Karl O. Pinc wrote: > > Justin B Rye wrote: > For things that the apt commandline can also do, I've never quite > understood why anyone would bother typing in the extra "itude". I can only

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Justin B Rye
Karl O. Pinc wrote: > Justin B Rye wrote: >>> +# aptitude purge '~o' >>> + >>> >>> The Debian Bug Tracking System >>> often provides additional information on why the package was >>> removed. You >> >> For actual aptitude users the easiest and most obvious way of finding >> the

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Karl O. Pinc
On Wed, 15 May 2019 12:59:04 +0100 Justin B Rye wrote: > Karl O. Pinc wrote on: > > The buster release notes should provide more specifics when it comes > > to removing obsolete packages. > > It provides commands, instead of vague TUI recommendations, > > describing how to remove obsolete packag

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-15 Thread Justin B Rye
Karl O. Pinc wrote on: > The buster release notes should provide more specifics when it comes > to removing obsolete packages. > > The following patch makes 2 changes. > > It recommends removing packages that are obsolete in stretch before > beginning the upgrade to buster. Good idea. > It pro

Bug#929003: release-notes: Provide specific instructions to remove obsolete packages

2019-05-14 Thread Karl O. Pinc
Package: release-notes Severity: normal Tags: patch The buster release notes should provide more specifics when it comes to removing obsolete packages. The following patch makes 2 changes. It recommends removing packages that are obsolete in stretch before beginning the upgrade to buster. It pr