Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-04 Thread Brian Potkin
On Sun 04 Mar 2018 at 15:44:12 +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le dimanche, 4 mars 2018, 13.54:27 h CET Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > > Is PolicyKit _required_ for _all_ uses of hplip? > > Good question. I'll admit I was put off my the (exhausting) 'systemd' > argument, and hadn't checked wh

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Didier 'OdyX' Raboud (2018-03-04 15:44:12) > Le dimanche, 4 mars 2018, 13.54:27 h CET Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > > Is PolicyKit _required_ for _all_ uses of hplip? > > Good question. I'll admit I was put off my the (exhausting) 'systemd' > argument, and hadn't checked what exactly was d

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 4 mars 2018, 13.54:27 h CET Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > Is PolicyKit _required_ for _all_ uses of hplip? Good question. I'll admit I was put off my the (exhausting) 'systemd' argument, and hadn't checked what exactly was done with PolicyKit. My reading is that PolicyKit is used to

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Didier 'OdyX' Raboud (2018-03-04 11:36:21) > Le dimanche, 4 mars 2018, 01.10:33 h CET Juliusz Chroboczek a écrit : > > > > I most respectfully disagree -- I should be able to install the > > > > hpps binary without installing systemd. [...] > > This can be achieved in many ways, including

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 4 mars 2018, 01.10:33 h CET Juliusz Chroboczek a écrit : > >> I most respectfully disagree -- I should be able to install the hpps > >> binary without installing systemd. > > > > There are non-Debian distributions which allow you to do that; > > Are you seriously suggesting that whoe

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-03 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> I most respectfully disagree -- I should be able to install the hpps >> binary without installing systemd. > There are non-Debian distributions which allow you to do that; Are you seriously suggesting that whoever disagrees with you should switch to a different distribution? Look, Didier, thi

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le samedi, 3 mars 2018, 15.24:48 h CET Juliusz Chroboczek a écrit : > I find it surprising that I cannot install the hpps binary without > installing systemd. > > > This is not a bug in hplip, nor in any other package down the dependency > > chain; hereby closing then. > > I most respectfully dis

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-03-03 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> My systems are configured to avoid installing systemd. This makes it >> impossible to install hplip: > The 'systemd' package doesn't switch your init system, I understad that. However, I try, to the extent possible, to avoid installing software that I don't understand on the machines that I

Bug#891810: hplip not installable without systemd

2018-02-28 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Package: hplip Version: 3.17.10+repack0-2 My systems are configured to avoid installing systemd. This makes it impossible to install hplip: hplip depends on policykit-1 policykit-1 depends on libpam-systemd libpam-systemd depends on systemd If you believe this is an issue with libpam-syst