Bug#860254:

2017-04-29 Thread Jonathon Delgado
I would be most grateful if you could drop the perl dependency for stretch. From: Kurt Roeckx Sent: 27 April 2017 19:32 To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior Cc: 860...@bugs.debian.org; Jonathon Delgado Subject: Re: Bug#860254:   On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 09:25:33PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

Bug#860254:

2017-04-28 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
On 2017-04-27 21:32:42 [+0200], Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I'm not suggesting to add libwww-curl-perl. > > I'm not sure why we have things in /usr/lib/ssl/misc/, which > doesn't sound like a useful place to put things. > > Note that there are actually manpages for them, so maybe we should > move them t

Bug#860254:

2017-04-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 09:25:33PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > On 2017-04-27 18:18:50 [+0200], Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > Yes, so perl-base should be find for c_rehash and CA.pl, but tsget > > requires libwww-curl-perl and we already don't depend on it. > > So what is that you are s

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2017-04-27 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
On 2017-04-27 18:18:50 [+0200], Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > Yes, so perl-base should be find for c_rehash and CA.pl, but tsget > requires libwww-curl-perl and we already don't depend on it. So what is that you are saying? We keep perl as is and add libwww-curl-perl (and if so is it RC and so testing m

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2017-04-27 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 02:00:47PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > On 2017-04-23 20:31:35 [+0200], Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 09:12:39AM +, Jonathon Delgado wrote: > > > So does this require anything from the perl package? I've never had > > > trouble in the past

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2017-04-27 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
On 2017-04-23 20:31:35 [+0200], Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 09:12:39AM +, Jonathon Delgado wrote: > > So does this require anything from the perl package? I've never had trouble > > in the past using it with just perl-base installed. There could, of course, > > be a perl requ

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2017-04-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 09:12:39AM +, Jonathon Delgado wrote: > So does this require anything from the perl package? I've never had trouble > in the past using it with just perl-base installed. There could, of course, > be a perl requirement for a scenario where I haven't used it, but has any

Bug#860254: [Pkg-openssl-devel] Bug#860254: Bug#860254:

2017-04-23 Thread Jonathon Delgado
: 23 April 2017 08:23 To: Jonathon Delgado; 860...@bugs.debian.org; Package Development List for OpenSSL packages. Subject: Re: [Pkg-openssl-devel] Bug#860254: Bug#860254:   On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 07:42:37AM +, Jonathon Delgado wrote: > Every system comes with perl-base. The full perl

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2017-04-23 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 07:42:37AM +, Jonathon Delgado wrote: > Every system comes with perl-base. The full perl package add a many megabytes > of libraries which is a problem for space-constrained systems. > > Isn't the whole point of perl-base that packages won't have to depend on perl > j

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2017-04-23 Thread Jonathon Delgado
: 21 April 2017 20:05 To: Jonathon Delgado; 860...@bugs.debian.org; Package Development List for OpenSSL packages. Subject: Re: [Pkg-openssl-devel] Bug#860254: The openssl package ships perl scripts. Those scripts require perl which means that this package depends on perl and this dependency is aut

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2017-04-21 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
On 2017-04-20 09:35:27 [+], Jonathon Delgado wrote: > Even if something in this script requires full perl, many ca-certificate > users won't run it after the initial install (of ca-certificates), and apt > won't let me uninstall just perl because of the hard dependency. The openssl package s

Bug#860254:

2017-04-20 Thread Jonathon Delgado
Even if something in this script requires full perl, many ca-certificate users won't run it after the initial install (of ca-certificates), and apt won't let me uninstall just perl because of the hard dependency.

Bug#860254:

2017-04-20 Thread Jonathon Delgado
perl-base is essential, and seems adequate to run the scripts. perl shouldn't be required. I'm also suffering from the hefty perl dependency.

Bug#860254: [Pkg-openssl-devel] Bug#860254: openssl depends on perl, when recommends seems more appropriate

2017-04-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:45:59AM -0700, Tianon Gravi wrote: > On 13 April 2017 at 09:44, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > One of the important binaries in c_rehash which is a perl script. > > Ahh, and that's used by ca-certificates? :( Yes. Kurt

Bug#860254: [Pkg-openssl-devel] Bug#860254: openssl depends on perl, when recommends seems more appropriate

2017-04-13 Thread Tianon Gravi
On 13 April 2017 at 09:44, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > One of the important binaries in c_rehash which is a perl script. Ahh, and that's used by ca-certificates? :( ♥, - Tianon 4096R / B42F 6819 007F 00F8 8E36 4FD4 036A 9C25 BF35 7DD4

Bug#860254: [Pkg-openssl-devel] Bug#860254: openssl depends on perl, when recommends seems more appropriate

2017-04-13 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 09:20:34AM -0700, Tianon Gravi wrote: > Package: openssl > Version: 1.1.0e-1 > Severity: wishlist > > Since 1.1.0c-3, the openssl package now Depends on perl, which is quite > hefty, and if one does not need to use the included perl scripts, not > necessary. Would it be ac

Bug#860254: openssl depends on perl, when recommends seems more appropriate

2017-04-13 Thread Tianon Gravi
Package: openssl Version: 1.1.0e-1 Severity: wishlist Since 1.1.0c-3, the openssl package now Depends on perl, which is quite hefty, and if one does not need to use the included perl scripts, not necessary. Would it be acceptable to downgrade that Depends to Recommends instead? That would ensure