Bug#774664: closed by Michael Biebl (Re: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#774664: policykit-1: Forces use of systemd via dependency on libpam-systemd)

I think misunderstood you comment to mean you were claiming that with systemd-shim that systemd doesn't have to be installed. Are what you actually saying is that you can't avoid having systemd on the system, but you can use systemd-shim to allow you so can use sysvinit through appropriate grub co

Bug#774664: closed by Michael Biebl (Re: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#774664: policykit-1: Forces use of systemd via dependency on libpam-systemd)

Sorry but systemd-shim does NOT eliminate the dependency on libpam-systemd. This bug should be reopened because the bad dependency is not eliminated by systemd-shim. It probably is intended to be and it's probably an unintended packing error that libpam-systemd is required even when systemd-shim

Bug#774664: policykit-1: Forces use of systemd via dependency on libpam-systemd

Package: policykit-1 Version: 0.105-8 Severity: normal Lots of stuff depend on policykit and supposedly one is allowed to create systemd if one wants, however currently policykit depends on libpam-systemd which makes it impossible to have a meaningful desktop without system. libpam-systemd shoul