Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-09-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D"): > I agree that we should not pick an entirely new design. > Here though, option D does not pick an entirely new design. Option D does something much much worse. It - mandates that an new design[1]

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-31 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le dimanche, 30 août 2015, 13.01:36 Nikolaus Rath a écrit : > On Aug 30 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: > > Nikolaus> Surely there is no need to single out the traditional > > Nikolaus> menu as something that must not be used. It's > > Nikolaus> sufficient if policy mandates the use of .desk

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Nikolaus" == Nikolaus Rath writes: Nikolaus> A. This comes very close to design work which the CTTE Nikolaus> should not be doing. If there's a conflict between two Nikolaus> crappy designs and the CTTE is asked to rule, then you Nikolaus> should pick the less crappy one or

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Aug 30 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: >> "Nikolaus" == Nikolaus Rath writes: > > Nikolaus> On Aug 29 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> Option D goes further. Option D requires that packages drop > >> their traditional menu entries if they ship .desktop files. > >> (That's done on a

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Nikolaus" == Nikolaus Rath writes: Nikolaus> On Aug 29 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: >> Option D goes further. Option D requires that packages drop >> their traditional menu entries if they ship .desktop files. >> (That's done on a per-application not per-package basis).

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-30 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Aug 29 2015, Sam Hartman wrote: > Option D goes further. Option D requires that packages drop their > traditional menu entries if they ship .desktop files. (That's done on a > per-application not per-package basis). That would be a pretty ridiculous situation. So package maintainers would be

Bug#741573: Comparison of Options AB and D

2015-08-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. So, after working with Keith yesterday on his option, I think I have a much better understanding of what the tradeoffs are. I'd like to present these to the TC as we're about to vote. I'm ignoring ballot option C (afirm the status quo) in this. I'm also treating options A and B as the same