Bug#727708: systemd vs. binfmt-support

2013-12-29 Thread Uoti Urpala
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 14:02 +, Colin Watson wrote: > I was referring more to Tollef's position, really. Debian systemd > maintenance ought to take into account matters of Debian integration, > which includes whether it fits well into best-of-breed Debian practice. > > If it's easy enough to o

Bug#727708: systemd vs. binfmt-support

2013-12-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Colin Watson > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:11AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > As I explain in the bug [1], I think that the facilities provided by > > > binfmt-support are objectively superior; and even if they were broadly > > > equivalent, I'd still question the utility of converting

Bug#727708: systemd vs. binfmt-support

2013-12-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 05:56:30AM +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: > On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 21:42 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > The first reason is, I suppose, rather selfish: I've been working on > > this on and off for fourteen years and it seems a bit rude for systemd > > to turn up and declare that i

Bug#727708: systemd vs. binfmt-support

2013-12-28 Thread Uoti Urpala
On Thu, 2013-12-26 at 21:42 +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:11AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > In this particular case, as you write, I hadn't really given it any > > consideration before, but what I think would make sense is to extend > > systemd to support the same

Bug#727708: systemd vs. binfmt-support

2013-12-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 08:49:11AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > As I explain in the bug [1], I think that the facilities provided by > > binfmt-support are objectively superior; and even if they were broadly > > equivalent, I'd still question the utility of converting packages from > > an inte

Bug#727708: systemd vs. binfmt-support

2013-12-25 Thread Colin Watson
#716812 asks for binfmt-support to be disabled when systemd is present, because systemd-binfmt exists. The two have a sort of soft conflict; I'm sure it's possible to run both, but having two programs configure the same kernel facility is bound to be confusing sooner or later, so it would certainl